User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 12:37:11 PM EDT
[#1]
@Jman_JJE
Any thoughts on doing a 62gr fmj? It seems that there is a decent size market for it with all the ranges that don't allow m855/ss109 because of the steel penetrator. Whenever some does show up from other manufacturers, it sells out right away |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 12:39:10 PM EDT
[#2]
I love that PSA fills these holes. Was this a need though?
Flood the market with 5.56 and 9mm, and then worry about niche calibers. I assume this is to help the sale of their 5.7 pistol. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 12:53:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love that PSA fills these holes. Was this a need though? Flood the market with 5.56 and 9mm, and then worry about niche calibers. I assume this is to help the sale of their 5.7 pistol. What we really need is cheap M2 Ball for the M1 Garands that they are going to make 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 1:19:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love that PSA fills these holes. Was this a need though? Flood the market with 5.56 and 9mm, and then worry about niche calibers. I assume this is to help the sale of their 5.7 pistol. The market is already flooded with 5.56 and 9mm. There is a massive pile of ammo at stores. It's piling up because the price is too high. No one wants to buy more 5.56 or 9mm unless prices go way back down again. People will 100% buy 5.7 at a reasonable price. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 1:26:49 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Make sure you are signed up for emails, they come in stock frequently but sell out quick I've signed up for email blasts. Just have never seen the 5.7 upper. I tried to get one of the 57Center uppers years ago. They were always out of stock. I have an SBR lower that already has a folding stock that the 5.7 will go on. Would need the barrel bobbed back or get a 8" barreled upper if they are offered. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 1:30:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I assume this is to help the sale of their 5.7 pistol. Fo sho. When I see a daily deal with a 5.7rock, 10 mags, and a case of ammo, i'm adding that bad boy to my cart and checking out so fast my card starts smoking. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 1:31:02 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted: Quoted: This is what happened to the MP5. It got back burnered by their venture into ammo production, or so I’ve read. Ammo is a bigger service to the community, and likely a more reliable money maker. Good choice. Especially considering MKE MP5s are $1100. It'll be difficult to compete with that price in that platform. |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 5:12:42 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: AAC 9mm from the PSA website is 30 cpr, higher than equivalent brands (PMC, Blazer, Federal) available elsewhere. Federal 5.7 can be had for ~66 CPR online. I have a hard time believing a much less popular cartridge is going to be beat current market prices if your 9mm can't. https://palmettostatearmory.com/fourth-of-july-sale/july-4-ammunition/aac-9mm-115gr-fmj-ammunition-100rd-box.html https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-9mm-124gr-fmj-ammunition-100rd-box.html .30 per round is pretty competitive for brass cased 9mm. maybe I'm missing what you mean with the comma? |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 11:19:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Jman_JJE Any thoughts on doing a 62gr fmj? It seems that there is a decent size market for it with all the ranges that don't allow m855/ss109 because of the steel penetrator. Whenever some does show up from other manufacturers, it sells out right away |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 11:20:29 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Given that it's only .30 per round, how is it .30 cpr higher? maybe I'm missing what you mean with the comma? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AAC 9mm from the PSA website is 30 cpr, higher than equivalent brands (PMC, Blazer, Federal) available elsewhere. Federal 5.7 can be had for ~66 CPR online. I have a hard time believing a much less popular cartridge is going to be beat current market prices if your 9mm can't. maybe I'm missing what you mean with the comma? Ya think? |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 11:26:03 PM EDT
[#11]
Can't wait for some decent 5.7 prices again. When 5.7 was cheaper than 5.56, I snagged an upper and was burning through it with the MG. Grabbed some PS90s and the FN pistol too. Ammo supply is low for the 5.7 and really like the PS90 for a toy again.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 11:27:20 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Especially considering MKE MP5s are $1100. It'll be difficult to compete with that price in that platform. This Fuck outta here wanting a PSA MP5  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/10/2022 11:51:40 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ohh a lead core 62gr FMJ for 5.56? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Jman_JJE Any thoughts on doing a 62gr fmj? It seems that there is a decent size market for it with all the ranges that don't allow m855/ss109 because of the steel penetrator. Whenever some does show up from other manufacturers, it sells out right away Yup, like the CBC/Magtech 62gr lead core fmj |
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2022 10:43:54 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Buffman_LT1 UPS lady was adamant about knowing what was being shipped. So you are about to receive trolling motor parts.  @Buffman_LT1 UPS tracking shows your trolling motor parts have been delivered. Keep us updated please. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/12/2022 11:11:35 PM EDT
[#15]
I want the 5.7
|
|
|
|
Posted: 9/29/2022 12:24:24 PM EDT
[#16]
Bump.
Anticipating updates. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 1:08:28 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am using the Lee Crimp die, and yes it's very very touchy. I was sure to mark the adjustments with a sharpie :D Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Buffman_LT1 What do you use to crimp 5.7? I've loaded 40gr VMAX projectiles in FN brass with a Lee 2 die set since 2014, but just got a Lee crimp die last week. Have 20rds crimped up to give me something to chrono against uncrimped rounds in the SBR'd PS90 and new PSA ROCK, but I haven't gone back and crimped my entire gallon bag of handloads yet. I first want to see if it's worth the...wait for it.....squeeze (yuck yuck yuck) The Lee crimp die was very touchy. Less than a 1/4 turn from no crimp being applied to the point where it was closing so hard I was getting a tiny bit of brass cut off the top of the case. I was getting paper plate size groups from my Ruger 5.7 and AE. After the Lee crimp die, I am shooting groups of 1 1\2" best. 25 yards rested with reddot. 5 shot Well worth the trouble. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 1:13:41 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love that PSA fills these holes. Was this a need though? Flood the market with 5.56 and 9mm, and then worry about niche calibers. I assume this is to help the sale of their 5.7 pistol. You best believe I’ll be buying their pistol if prices become reasonable. I’m only a sample size of one though |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 1:23:03 PM EDT
[#19]
I’m waiting to see ammo availability and cost before buying a Rock. I really want one.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 1:43:26 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They need to do steel cased 300 blk with 110-120 grain fmj for 25-35 cents a round. They when they 7.62x39 they can just use the same bullet. Except their not the same bullet or , shouldn't be |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 1:45:33 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ohh a lead core 62gr FMJ for 5.56? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Jman_JJE Any thoughts on doing a 62gr fmj? It seems that there is a decent size market for it with all the ranges that don't allow m855/ss109 because of the steel penetrator. Whenever some does show up from other manufacturers, it sells out right away Just a FYI Aguila makes a 62gr lead core...if you can find it in stock |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 2:26:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Not to get too far off, what about AAC 30-06 M2 Ball?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 2:30:03 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to get too far off, what about AAC 30-06 M2 Ball? Oh…now that’s a thought as well. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 7:35:05 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to get too far off, what about AAC 30-06 M2 Ball? They aren’t making Garands….5.7 makes more sense/cents for them. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 7:40:44 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: They aren’t making Garands….5.7 makes more sense/cents for them. We will be making 30-06 150gr ball in 2024. We are also working on a garand under the H&R brand but it is a few years out also. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 7:48:36 PM EDT
[#26]
 This one is ready... Have one more waiting for stamps Something full power like EA S4M or S4UR would be awesome! Mine chronod at just over 2100 from the SBR Buffman, from what I hear, Elite Ammunition makes their own brass, unless he was full of it when he told me a while back |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 7:52:16 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We will be making 30-06 150gr ball in 2024. We are also working on a garand under the H&R brand but it is a few years out also. Holeeee shit. If I weren't married I would kiss you. God bless you and God bless the USA. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 8:03:34 PM EDT
[#28]
Any idea on the projected price of the 5.7 ammo?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 8:29:10 PM EDT
[#29]
I’ve said it before but since this is an ammo thread, I’ll say it again.
If you’re making steel cased ammo, please make sure it’s not topped with bimetal jacketed bullets so folks can use it at indoor ranges. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 8:44:48 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Holeeee shit. If I weren't married I would kiss you. God bless you and God bless the USA. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We will be making 30-06 150gr ball in 2024. We are also working on a garand under the H&R brand but it is a few years out also. Holeeee shit. If I weren't married I would kiss you. God bless you and God bless the USA. Shit too, i'd be willing to learn full on homo.  If they do half the stuff they plan on, it's going to be great. Is steel cased 5.7 an option? So glad when the 5.7 ammo bottle neck is broken. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 9:06:18 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That'd be awesome but doesn't x39 use a .311 diameter bullet while I'd expect 300BLK is .308? I thought I read about some issue with the mini 30 or something years ago from that. Also keep kicking ass PSA/AAC/whoever! Now I have to go find out what 300blk was announced last week..... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They need to do steel cased 300 blk with 110-120 grain fmj for 25-35 cents a round. They when they 7.62x39 they can just use the same bullet. That'd be awesome but doesn't x39 use a .311 diameter bullet while I'd expect 300BLK is .308? I thought I read about some issue with the mini 30 or something years ago from that. Also keep kicking ass PSA/AAC/whoever! Now I have to go find out what 300blk was announced last week..... |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 9:09:35 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck. Yall are going to force me to buy a 5.7 , arent you. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 9:32:13 PM EDT
[#33]
I have a case of Focci SS190..for my FiveseveN
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 9:40:21 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We will be making 30-06 150gr ball in 2024. We are also working on a garand under the H&R brand but it is a few years out also.  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 10:04:27 PM EDT
[#35]
I would absolutely be buying/shooting cases of 5.7x28 if priced on par with 9x19mm. Particularly with a load/bullet that can bring put the potential of the round even witching the AP legal constraints.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 10:10:13 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We will be making 30-06 150gr ball in 2024. We are also working on a garand under the H&R brand but it is a few years out also. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They aren’t making Garands….5.7 makes more sense/cents for them. We will be making 30-06 150gr ball in 2024. We are also working on a garand under the H&R brand but it is a few years out also.  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 10:11:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would absolutely be buying/shooting cases of 5.7x28 if priced on par with 9x19mm. Particularly with a load/bullet that can bring put the potential of the round even witching the AP legal constraints. Absolutely. If it were priced comparable to 9mm or even .223 I’d be shooting the shit out of 5.7. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 10:15:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely. If it were priced comparable to 9mm or even .223 I’d be shooting the shit out of 5.7. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would absolutely be buying/shooting cases of 5.7x28 if priced on par with 9x19mm. Particularly with a load/bullet that can bring put the potential of the round even witching the AP legal constraints. Absolutely. If it were priced comparable to 9mm or even .223 I’d be shooting the shit out of 5.7. Yep, bring the price down to those levels and I’d be buying cases of it along with several firearms in that caliber. Until then, it’s just too expensive for me to shoot as much of it as I would want to. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/2/2022 10:20:26 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love that PSA fills these holes. Was this a need though? Flood the market with 5.56 and 9mm, and then worry about niche calibers. I assume this is to help the sale of their 5.7 pistol. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 12:41:02 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a case of Focci SS190..for my FiveseveN Did you buy that case off GunBroker? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 12:45:22 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would absolutely be buying/shooting cases of 5.7x28 if priced on par with 9x19mm. Particularly with a load/bullet that can bring put the potential of the round even witching the AP legal constraints. Circa 2017-18. $.17/ is my hope, but I’d settle for 5.7 @ &.30/. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 12:48:24 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/490290/20210624_152201-2212545.jpg This one is ready... Have one more waiting for stamps Something full power like EA S4M or S4UR would be awesome! Mine chronod at just over 2100 from the SBR Buffman, from what I hear, Elite Ammunition makes their own brass, unless he was full of it when he told me a while back AAC making their own brass will hopefully shake things up in the 5.7 brass supply. All large scale commercial 5.7 brass comes directly from FN. I have to imagine the logistics of European production, and shipping, add to cost. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 1:11:28 AM EDT
[#43]
PSA, please say your new loads will work in the PS90 SBR?
That was one of the main problems with the AE 5.7 ammo. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 6:24:38 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Circa 2017-18. $.17/ is my hope, but I’d settle for 5.7 @ &.30/. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would absolutely be buying/shooting cases of 5.7x28 if priced on par with 9x19mm. Particularly with a load/bullet that can bring put the potential of the round even witching the AP legal constraints. Circa 2017-18. $.17/ is my hope, but I’d settle for 5.7 @ &.30/. I was shooting 5.7 in 2017 and I don’t ever recall seeing it at $0.17/round ($8.50/box of 50). I remember it at $18/box of 50. I would like to see it closer to $15/box. There is no reason it shouldn’t be. The demand is there for the economy of volume production and resource-wise, 5.7x28 requires much less raw materials than 9x19mm. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 6:33:52 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was shooting 5.7 in 2017 and I don’t ever recall seeing it at $0.17/round ($8.50/box of 50). I remember it at $18/box of 50. I would like to see it closer to $15/box. There is no reason it shouldn’t be. The demand is there for the economy of volume production and resource-wise, 5.7x28 requires much less raw materials than 9x19mm. Yep, I've been shooting the 5.7 off and on for about 13-14 years and the cheapest I remember seeing it was $18, maybe $15 but I do remember seeing $18 for SS197. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 6:46:22 AM EDT
[#46]
The 5.7 is awesome...but what about 5.45x39? US-made 5.45 would just...just be awesome. Especially if it was brass cased and copper plated FMJ
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 7:00:33 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was shooting 5.7 in 2017 and I don’t ever recall seeing it at $0.17/round ($8.50/box of 50). I remember it at $18/box of 50. I would like to see it closer to $15/box. There is no reason it shouldn’t be. The demand is there for the economy of volume production and resource-wise, 5.7x28 requires much less raw materials than 9x19mm. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would absolutely be buying/shooting cases of 5.7x28 if priced on par with 9x19mm. Particularly with a load/bullet that can bring put the potential of the round even witching the AP legal constraints. Circa 2017-18. $.17/ is my hope, but I’d settle for 5.7 @ &.30/. I was shooting 5.7 in 2017 and I don’t ever recall seeing it at $0.17/round ($8.50/box of 50). I remember it at $18/box of 50. I would like to see it closer to $15/box. There is no reason it shouldn’t be. The demand is there for the economy of volume production and resource-wise, 5.7x28 requires much less raw materials than 9x19mm. I was referring to the other poster’s comment of “on par with 9mm”, which the lows were even around $.13-.15/ for Winchester white box in bulk at Walmart before they went full retard, but now I’d settle for 5.7 in that $.30/ range. Hope that makes sense now. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 8:02:06 AM EDT
[#48]
The price of 5.7 is the biggest reason I haven't bought anything in the caliber. I have yet to fire a single round of it.
I bought the AR57 upper from PSA then immediately loaned it out to Buffman_LT1for T&E without ever firing it. I will admit I didn't do this for completely unselfish reasons. I ordered 200 rounds of FN brand ammo. At nearly a buck a shot, I figured it wouldn't hurt to let someone else with a lot of experience with the round figure out whether it was a jammo-matic that destroyed expensive rounds until it was broken in, or whether the supplied non FN magazine it came with is worth a shit and OEM mags are needed. Also, hopefully PSA will come through with some ammo and find out whether the thing will run with it.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 10:09:51 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We will be making 30-06 150gr ball in 2024. We are also working on a garand under the H&R brand but it is a few years out also. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They aren’t making Garands….5.7 makes more sense/cents for them. We will be making 30-06 150gr ball in 2024. We are also working on a garand under the H&R brand but it is a few years out also. Well I'll be...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/3/2022 10:12:30 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: PSA, please say your new loads will work in the PS90 SBR? That was one of the main problems with the AE 5.7 ammo. @DmL5 What issues did you have? I only shot ~350rds of the AE FMJ through my SBR'd PS90, but don't recall having any issues with it. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
