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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:52:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:52:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I work for an electric coop, pretty much all of our hardware comes from China So 100% chineseum |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:57:51 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not kidding. It's one thing when Duncan Doughnuts isn't open on the inside due to lack of workers. A whole other when we don't have the specialists that are largely behind the scenes keeping this country moving. Supply lines disintintigrating. Lack of critical components. I hope I'm wrong. Hope this ship gets turned around. Right now in South Africa they have rolling Load shedding. They've neglected their power plants and distribution system over so many years that now they have to ration it. Fuckin 13er's... username checks out. 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:58:43 PM EDT
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Meh, automation will take care of that long before
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Posted: 8/16/2022 6:59:16 PM EDT
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I think the US is going to have a lot of problems in 20 years, but it isn't going to be because we can't get enough talent together to keep the grid running.
There's plenty of talent in the US if you're willing to pay them enough money. The problem with the labor market right now is after 50 years of wage stagnation smart people aren't working for wages, and when they are, it isn't the wages that get them in to work every morning. Failing to invest in critical infrastructure for so long is clearly going to bite us in the ass though. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:16:14 PM EDT
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A gazillion fast food restaurants in 20 years? Maybe not. Too many low-skill people not working getting stoned.
A functional grid in 20 years? Do I really have to dignify the question with any kind of answer? 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So 100% chineseum I hate it but I’m sure they are too cheap to buy anything American made |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:17:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:25:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate it but I’m sure they are too cheap to buy anything American made Funny thing, China hired zee Germans to build their new million-volt DC grid backbone. We make fun of China all the time but they've been building infrastructure like mad, irrigating their deserts, building nuclear plants, next-gen transmission systems, on and on. The US has a 300% tariff on Chinese solar products, panels are dirt cheap in China and they're putting them up by the millions. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:30:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the US is going to have a lot of problems in 20 years, but it isn't going to be because we can't get enough talent together to keep the grid running. There's plenty of talent in the US if you're willing to pay them enough money. The problem with the labor market right now is after 50 years of wage stagnation smart people aren't working for wages, and when they are, it isn't the wages that get them in to work every morning. Failing to invest in critical infrastructure for so long is clearly going to bite us in the ass though. Disagree with the labor market. In my field (Computer Security), we are paying well into the 6 figures and have a hard time getting anyone that is semi-competent. Think Zeihan marches to the tune that we are 400K people short each year for the next 10 years when we reach 900K short due to all the boomer retiring. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:32:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The lock downs and "distance learning" will have crazy consequences on that gen The lockdowns will surely have some kind of effect - most likely more distrust and animosity toward government and authority in general - as seen by the increasing levels of lawlessness. And I’m still amazed at the number of people who think that “distance learning” robbed their children of a year of education. The “education” the kids get in a “normal” year is barely different than what they got during “distance learning.” Parents saw the lack of substantive material and generally poor quality of the education when they were learning from home and assumed it was just lousy because it was being done remotely. Reality is public education is just…horrible. Government screws up everything it touches and does NOTHING well…and yet conservatives continue to give that same government unrestricted, unsupervised access to their children for 7 hours a day, for 12 to 14 YEARS of their life, and actually think they’re doing a GOOD job with that. LOL. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:37:12 PM EDT
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We have PLENTY of natural gas in the US. The US will always have power.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:37:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:38:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I plan to have electricity. For about the price of a nice car you can set yourself up with a solar system to run your house. If you really think the electrical system will fail, you should probably get your own power system. Link? Seriously. I'm about to spend 13k for power into my property. If I could do it with solar , off grid. Wind , whatever I'm all in. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:38:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When the last of the boomers dies the world will slowly start to fall apart. Worth it. 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:39:01 PM EDT
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Don't worry OP, the ''right'' people will have electricity.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:41:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I work for an electric coop, pretty much all of our hardware comes from China Just curious as to what hardware. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:53:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's obvious you know absolutely nothing about electrical generation, grid supply, or grid maintenance. But you seem to know how to post doomer bullshit. . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not kidding. It's one thing when Duncan Doughnuts isn't open on the inside due to lack of workers. A whole other when we don't have the specialists that are largely behind the scenes keeping this country moving. Supply lines disintintigrating. Lack of critical components. I hope I'm wrong. Hope this ship gets turned around. It's obvious you know absolutely nothing about electrical generation, grid supply, or grid maintenance. But you seem to know how to post doomer bullshit. . And some of us in the industry know just how easy it would be to cripple large sections of infrastructure as you would know if you were in the industry. I am always amazed at how weak utilities are in being proactive in, well, pretty much everything because any dollars that were shifted toward that would come out of their pocket. Except for the very occasional incident, no group has ever seriously targeted the utility industry. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:56:26 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not kidding. It's one thing when Duncan Doughnuts isn't open on the inside due to lack of workers. A whole other when we don't have the specialists that are largely behind the scenes keeping this country moving. Supply lines disintintigrating. Lack of critical components. I hope I'm wrong. Hope this ship gets turned around. Right now in South Africa they have rolling Load shedding. They've neglected their power plants and distribution system over so many years that now they have to ration it. Dude, log out, and go for a walk. Some of you are wound too tight. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:30:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's obvious you know absolutely nothing about electrical generation, grid supply, or grid maintenance. But you seem to know how to post doomer bullshit. . Southern company has hired executive diversity hires for years. Its coming. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:33:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When the last of the boomers dies the world will slowly start to fall apart. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:35:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not sure you are wrong to be honest. The number of trainable people in the trades is dwindling to nothing. I'm pretty sure this will happen too. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:36:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We'll all be underwater by then thanks to rising sea levels. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:36:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When the last of the boomers dies the world will slowly start to fall apart. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:37:17 PM EDT
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At the rate we are going, we are going to be lucky to have a country in 5 years....let alone electricity.....
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:37:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Southern company has hired executive diversity hires for years. Its coming. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's obvious you know absolutely nothing about electrical generation, grid supply, or grid maintenance. But you seem to know how to post doomer bullshit. . Southern company has hired executive diversity hires for years. Its coming. Most people have NO idea how bad it really is. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:37:45 PM EDT
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JoBi will just 3d print some moar suns to make solar work harder.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:41:37 PM EDT
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Nope
Zommers won't let Instagram and only fans go down. No power no Internet or cell phones. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:41:52 PM EDT
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I hope I'm wrong. But I'd love to see an industry that was fully staffed. Or an industry that could get inventory in normal lead times. Or an Car manufacturer that had normal inventory. Hopefully these issues are like inflation. Transitory.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:43:46 PM EDT
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NOT EV thread?
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:45:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:55:51 PM EDT
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Huntington Beach, CA didn't have it yesterday.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:59:34 PM EDT
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 Aerosmith - Livin' On The Edge (Lyrics) |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:08:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link? Seriously. I'm about to spend 13k for power into my property. If I could do it with solar , off grid. Wind , whatever I'm all in. I've been holding off because I want to buy another house in two years. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:09:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:10:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I work for an electric coop, pretty much all of our hardware comes from China
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny thing, China hired zee Germans to build their new million-volt DC grid backbone. We make fun of China all the time but they've been building infrastructure like mad, irrigating their deserts, building nuclear plants, next-gen transmission systems, on and on. The US has a 300% tariff on Chinese solar products, panels are dirt cheap in China and they're putting them up by the millions. and are zee germans hiring?
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:12:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just curious as to what hardware.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:12:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most people have NO idea how bad it really is.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:12:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When the last of the boomers dies the world will slowly start to fall apart.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:13:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Huntington Beach, CA didn't have it yesterday. them: california needs you! me:  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:16:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Early Gen X. The last generation who listened when the old men spoke. Early Gen X made the transition from analog to digital. They span from vacuum tubes to whatever was invented this morning. They are also the last generation to have every.single.tool. But your point is well taken. There is a ticking clock. For example, forget getting the USS Missouri cranked back up if aliens come.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When the last of the boomers dies the world will slowly start to fall apart. Early Gen X. The last generation who listened when the old men spoke. Early Gen X made the transition from analog to digital. They span from vacuum tubes to whatever was invented this morning. They are also the last generation to have every.single.tool. But your point is well taken. There is a ticking clock. For example, forget getting the USS Missouri cranked back up if aliens come. Early gen x? I'm in the Xennials and own every tool fucker. I also don't care about anything but stay the fuck off of my lawn and always let me do whatever it is i plan to do. Bring on the aliens and/or zombie hordes.... |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:17:45 PM EDT
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I would like to bet the OP a case of PMAGS.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:18:43 PM EDT
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Robots…
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:19:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link? Seriously. I'm about to spend 13k for power into my property. If I could do it with solar , off grid. Wind , whatever I'm all in. Off grid is going to cost you more than that, but if I were in your shoes I'd go for it, you'll get subsidies, the $13K you're in it anyway, TX is a good place for solar and energy isn't going to get cheaper. Look at supply houses for what stuff costs. The solar installation companies are one step above thieves around here, they charge triple what the equipment costs and it doesn't take a lot of man hours to install the stuff. Tesla is actually the exception, they're the industry price leader believe it or not, if they install in your area. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:20:14 PM EDT
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EV thread!!
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:21:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would like to bet the OP a case of PMAGS. 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:23:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:23:47 PM EDT
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This is going to make charging the EV on the road a harsh proposition.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 9:23:49 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure I'll have electricity. Most of the time anyway.
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