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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:23:31 PM EDT
[#1]
I know OP didn’t have a gun in his room, but several of you guys have mentioned doing it.
As a former Las Vegas resident, I would never have considered having a gun in my room in a Vegas “resort” hotel. That has been corporate surveillance territory with intrusive heavy-handed security for decades. Not freedom friendly at all. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:24:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EDITED to be less accusatory  .OP(allegedly)brings a firearm into the hotel. Why does the guy insist that you told him you had a firearm? Violates casino policy (allegedly) and is asked by security (pretends they are cops) to check it. .gov crawfish? You said it, so you thought it.Then ya snarked it. Wear it. There must be some reason for you to accuse OP. If no reason, then why? It’s simple. As a business they had the right to ask him to leave. Nobody other than an entity .gov has proclaimed has arrest powers can search you. Doesn’t mean they won’t, just that they haven’t the right. As others have posted, corporations and .gov are morphing into an ugly combination. Freedom is often thought about in context. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:29:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know OP didn’t have a gun in his room, but several of you guys have mentioned doing it. As a former Las Vegas resident, I would never have considered having a gun in my room in a Vegas “resort” hotel. That has been corporate surveillance territory with intrusive heavy-handed security for decades. Not freedom friendly at all. So what would do if you drove to Vegas for the weekend from somewhere else? Leave it in your car? |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:33:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what would do if you drove to Vegas for the weekend from somewhere else? Leave it in your car? Easy answer. Fuck that turd that spawned from California. Tiddies. Better elsewhere. Gambling. Better elsewhere. Fat ass Karen’s shopping overpriced luxury items they could have gotten off eBay. (now I understand). Edit. I believe the latest .gov bitch from NY has worded it well. “We will just have all the business post No Firearms signs). The slippery slop has now become an antigravity ride! Enjoy your lives folks. We’ve got more in common than we don’t.  off to something enjoyable.
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:33:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to go to the Soldier of Fortune 3-gun matches in Vegas in the late 90's and up until it ended in the early 2000s. We and everyone else used to bring all the gun cases in to our rooms every night. Amazing how much it has changed. ‘ This right here. Also stayed outside Tulsa at a casino for the 3 gun nationals several years ago. Dragging that shit in like we owned the place !!! . |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:35:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Utah Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Didn't @aimless move to Nevada? Utah 41.9484384,-87.6575214 |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:36:45 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Legal question: Can Hotel employees/security physically search your property? Not talking opening the closet, safe, drawers (hotel property, which I’d assume is dependent on state/local laws) but actually looking inside your suitcase, unzipping pockets on backpacks, etc. I’d assume any threats to restrain you would or actually do so if you’re not being aggressive would be considered assault / battery. They’re pretty much limited to ‘leave now’? No. But if you want to stay there then yes. All of the people I knew who were searched at SHOT Show were given the option, no search is fine but then pack up and leave the property. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .gov crawfish? You said it, so you thought it.Then ya snarked it. Wear it. There must be some reason for you to accuse OP. If no reason, then why? It’s simple. As a business they had the right to ask him to leave. Nobody other than an entity .gov has proclaimed has arrest powers can search you. Doesn’t mean they won’t, just that they haven’t the right. As others have posted, corporations and .gov are morning into an ugly combination. Freedom is often thought about in context. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: EDITED to be less accusatory .OP(allegedly)brings a firearm into the hotel. Why does the guy insist that you told him you had a firearm? Violates casino policy (allegedly) and is asked by security (pretends they are cops) to check it. .gov crawfish? You said it, so you thought it.Then ya snarked it. Wear it. There must be some reason for you to accuse OP. If no reason, then why? It’s simple. As a business they had the right to ask him to leave. Nobody other than an entity .gov has proclaimed has arrest powers can search you. Doesn’t mean they won’t, just that they haven’t the right. As others have posted, corporations and .gov are morning into an ugly combination. Freedom is often thought about in context. At what point was the government involved? Also, when was the OP detained or searched? |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:37:25 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP will soon find out if the Vegas Casinos keep any sort of black list and/or facial recognition etc Look forward to hearing about his next visit. Caesar’s definitely does, IIRC you can even “opt in” if you have a gambling problem. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:42:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know OP didn’t have a gun in his room, but several of you guys have mentioned doing it. As a former Las Vegas resident, I would never have considered having a gun in my room in a Vegas “resort” hotel. That has been corporate surveillance territory with intrusive heavy-handed security for decades. Not freedom friendly at all. I have traveled to Vegas dozens of times for trade shows and events since 1989. CCW was NEVER an issue nor was keeping guns in your room until this shooting happened. I remember having over a dozen machine guns in my room locked in a metal chest when I was an exhibitor at the last Soldier of Fortune convention. Now, we live in leftist nanny state. Hotel staff are trained to spot gun cases now and will alert security. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:47:34 PM EDT
[#11]
I have NEVER stayed in ANY hotel room without being armed.
OP was much more polite than I would have been. Fucking mall cops dressed like GI fucking Joe. 
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:48:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Would the owner of a Duramax and Tapout shirt please report to the front desk, your wife's boyfriends Uber is here https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/445346/Tapout_png-2490087.JPG ‘ Is it just me, or does his plate carrier appear to be missing plates ? True sign of a LARPer. . |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:50:01 PM EDT
[#13]
Honestly OP, I think you controlled yourself better than I would have. I have a high breaking point, but I think this might have thrown me over to the dark side.
When gestapo #1 said he would restrain you if you reached in the safe...I probably would have snapped. I would have head butted him with everything I had and probably bitten his ear off. That dude is twice my size, but that (unfortunately) hasn't stopped me in the past. I would have "lost", but that mofo would have scars for life and would remember my name till his dying breath. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:53:22 PM EDT
[#14]
Taken in Trump Tower, Las Vegas
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Posted: 8/15/2022 8:56:46 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At what point was the government involved? Also, when was the OP detained or searched? There are so many nuances in my words and yours it leads me to believe nothing proactive will evolve from me lecturing you. Like, who am I. (old man sitting on a mountaintop in WV) Doesn’t mean I’m right and your wrong, just means it would probably take 30 minutes and a cup of coffee in person to say what needs said. My communication skills via internet limit me to a 3 minute debate and I still have to use spell check. So, instead of flinging internet poo at you I will say have a great day and best to you and yours. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 9:04:37 PM EDT
[#16]
One thing then goodnight fellow travelers.
edit- double negative. knew I’d fuck it up. OP. The casinos have unlimited legal pockets to ensure they are not negatively besmirched. (always wanted to use that word in a sentence. probably fucked it up) Consider deleting the thread unless everything you said is 100% videoed. Cause in 2022 words don’t matter. This the accusations here are a perfect example. Consider deleting if you intend to pursue a legal route. Cause words do matter in court ‘sometimes’ unless your .gov or rich or connected or related………….. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 9:18:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One thing then goodnight fellow travelers. OP. The casinos have unlimited legal pockets to ensure they are not negatively besmirched. (always wanted to use that word in a sentence. probably fucked it up) Consider deleting the thread unless everything you said is 100% videoed. Cause in 2022 words don’t matter. This the accusations here are a perfect example. Consider deleting if you intend to pursue a legal route. Cause words do matter in court ‘sometimes’ unless your .gov or rich or connected or related………….. Not an expert grammarian but I believe you divided by zero there, as in using a double negative. Either word would have sufficed. Just my .02. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 9:21:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What a bunch of faggot LARPers |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 9:24:40 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Like part of a wandering tribe? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't look at me, I'm a New York lawyer lost in the desert Like part of a wandering tribe? |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 9:34:35 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: See what happens when you invite the man into your life. Never open the door.  How does that work when they make the room keys/cards? |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 9:35:06 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not an expert grammarian but I believe you divided by zero there, as in using a double negative. Either word would have sufficed. Just my .02. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One thing then goodnight fellow travelers. OP. The casinos have unlimited legal pockets to ensure they are not negatively besmirched. (always wanted to use that word in a sentence. probably fucked it up) Consider deleting the thread unless everything you said is 100% videoed. Cause in 2022 words don’t matter. This the accusations here are a perfect example. Consider deleting if you intend to pursue a legal route. Cause words do matter in court ‘sometimes’ unless your .gov or rich or connected or related………….. Not an expert grammarian but I believe you divided by zero there, as in using a double negative. Either word would have sufficed. Just my .02.  OMG you saved me from my next gaffe at speech club!Makes sense what you taught me though. Thanks. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:01:56 PM EDT
[#22]
I wonder if there was a rifle in that bag / backpack. Looks like at least one guy had pMags on his warbelt.
They had patches made up that say "Hotel Security SRT" on them.  ETA: And he has a blood type patch on his carrier. 
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:28:03 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not an expert grammarian but I believe you divided by zero there, as in using a double negative. Either word would have sufficed. Just my .02. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The casinos have unlimited legal pockets to ensure they are not negatively besmirched. (always wanted to use that word in a sentence. probably fucked it up) Not an expert grammarian but I believe you divided by zero there, as in using a double negative. Either word would have sufficed. Just my .02. RandySavage.jpg |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:37:23 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How does that work with NFA items? |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:48:46 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what would do if you drove to Vegas for the weekend from somewhere else? Leave it in your car? Don’t stay on the strip or in the hood? Regular business travel type hotel? Of course, I don’t like hotels at all, way too many theft reports come from all tiers of hotels. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:50:23 PM EDT
[#26]
I would sue the fuck out of them
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:51:14 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ‘ This right here. Also stayed outside Tulsa at a casino for the 3 gun nationals several years ago. Dragging that shit in like we owned the place !!! . Remember when Arfcommers in some red dirt state did that, and then sparked up the marijuanas, got dimed by some other hotel guest and Officer Cletus and Officer Hayseed came and took all their expensive stuff? Good times. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:51:24 PM EDT
[#28]
Most people just get 86’d from a casino.
OP got 87’d. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:53:00 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Taken in Trump Tower, Las Vegas https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/Screenshot_20220815-175252_Instagram-2490720.jpg Great, now the casinos added you to their list. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:54:35 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have traveled to Vegas dozens of times for trade shows and events since 1989. CCW was NEVER an issue nor was keeping guns in your room until this shooting happened. I remember having over a dozen machine guns in my room locked in a metal chest when I was an exhibitor at the last Soldier of Fortune convention. Now, we live in leftist nanny state. Hotel staff are trained to spot gun cases now and will alert security. It’s always been surveillance and security oriented. Getting a live hooker in is a challenge, but a dead hooker out is a goddamn obstacle course. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 10:56:46 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would sue the fuck out of them How much fuck would you expect to get? |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:01:43 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great, now the casinos added you to their list. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Taken in Trump Tower, Las Vegas https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/Screenshot_20220815-175252_Instagram-2490720.jpg Great, now the casinos added you to their list. THE LIST |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:06:50 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's always been surveillance and security oriented. Getting a live hooker in is a challenge, but a dead hooker out is a goddamn obstacle course. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:08:12 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when Arfcommers in some red dirt state did that, and then sparked up the marijuanas, got dimed by some other hotel guest and Officer Cletus and Officer Hayseed came and took all their expensive stuff? Good times. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:34:05 PM EDT
[#35]
I wonder if they have a way to flag people with CCWs at check in ?
Subsequent harassment ensues ? |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:34:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Seems like a violation of the Second and Fourth Amendments.
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:35:00 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How much fuck would you expect to get? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would sue the fuck out of them How much fuck would you expect to get? None, but I would want to go to discovery so that I would know why they did it. That would be important to me. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:38:52 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like a violation of the Second and Fourth Amendments. By which government agency? |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:41:04 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking mall cops dressed like GI fucking Joe. I was almost embarrassed for them . . . almost. Fucking tiny-dick losers. |
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Posted: 8/15/2022 11:41:31 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have traveled to Vegas dozens of times for trade shows and events since 1989. CCW was NEVER an issue nor was keeping guns in your room until this shooting happened. I remember having over a dozen machine guns in my room locked in a metal chest when I was an exhibitor at the last Soldier of Fortune convention. Now, we live in leftist nanny state. Hotel staff are trained to spot gun cases now and will alert security. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I know OP didn’t have a gun in his room, but several of you guys have mentioned doing it. As a former Las Vegas resident, I would never have considered having a gun in my room in a Vegas “resort” hotel. That has been corporate surveillance territory with intrusive heavy-handed security for decades. Not freedom friendly at all. I have traveled to Vegas dozens of times for trade shows and events since 1989. CCW was NEVER an issue nor was keeping guns in your room until this shooting happened. I remember having over a dozen machine guns in my room locked in a metal chest when I was an exhibitor at the last Soldier of Fortune convention. Now, we live in leftist nanny state. Hotel staff are trained to spot gun cases now and will alert security. In practical terms, one can easily wander around most of the Strip with a concealed handgun today. As long as A: you don't act a fool, and B: you avoid Wynn properties with scanners. Again, the industry is stuck with Vegas because NSSF knows the numbers would plummet if they went back to Orlando, and the reason for *that* is fundamentally because most of the industry is willing to trade their security for the opportunity to play with hookers and blow in Sin City. Quite literally, many of the people in this thread. And the NSSF is willing to represent the will of the industry and stay in Vegas, instead of standing up and pulling out on principle. The surveillance apparatus behind the curtains in Vegas is impressive and thorough, but it's not omniscient. I have to side with some of the members here in suspecting there's crucial, unstated information that the OP either doesn't recall or doesn't want to say, because there's 0.00% chance that security just appeared and felt like tossing his room on a whim. Something led them there, and I suspect it likely falls into a breach of opsec on the OP's fault (or the broader possibility that he was being SWAT'd, again ultimately as a consequence of his public presence). |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:12:04 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Weren't they at a class? Either a class or a match. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:25:47 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How does that work when they make the room keys/cards? Most I’ve been in have grad some sort of physical secondary lock on the door. Use it |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:27:17 AM EDT
[#43]
Kinda random question, I would assume if the hotel wanted to receive and store your personal firearms, wouldn’t they need to have some sort of FFL?
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:34:55 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They have. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It sounds like Vegas has become increasingly hostile to the gun industry. You'd think the gun manufacturers, SHOT, etc. would take a hint and move to a more gun friendly state for their customers. They have what? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:00:28 AM EDT
[#45]
Whatever OP might have said or did, I'm obligated to take his side just because of fake SWAT dude with that shitty haircut and kit.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:02:13 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kinda random question, I would assume if the hotel wanted to receive and store your personal firearms, wouldn’t they need to have some sort of FFL? I don’t think so. They aren’t buying and selling them. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:09:22 AM EDT
[#47]
If I was driving to Vegas I would want to keep the gun in my bag vs the car where the valet has access to it.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:15:55 AM EDT
[#48]
Their business, their rules.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:24:17 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In practical terms, one can easily wander around most of the Strip with a concealed handgun today. As long as A: you don't act a fool, and B: you avoid Wynn properties with scanners. Wynn isn't the only company with them. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 1:25:21 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what would do if you drove to Vegas for the weekend from somewhere else? Leave it in your car? I have never had an issue bringing a gun into a casino |
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