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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:03:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair, his is a perspective from an industry professional. It's like how all the nuke plant containing movies irritate me, while the general audience is entertained. Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair, his is a perspective from an industry professional. It's like how all the nuke plant containing movies irritate me, while the general audience is entertained. Professional what? Movie critic? |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:07:09 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any transgendered or lesbian pilots? All pilots are transgendered lesbians. You should know that. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:08:55 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: not at alll the enemy is unnamed (just like the first one). I can't think of anything oustide the patch change on his jacket Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How woke is it? Are the Chinese sensibilities respected? not at alll the enemy is unnamed (just like the first one). I can't think of anything oustide the patch change on his jacket That patch was not changed, at least not in the theater I was in. Japan and Taiwan were properly represented. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:09:42 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Professional what? Movie critic? For some reason I thought he was a pilot..., |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:10:35 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A massive disappointment. Even more so given that they had good meat and potatoes to work with. Great cast, great cinematography, and some really nice opportunities to call back to the first movie. It had all the parts to make a massively good movie. That being said, it was just an incoherent mess of a ridiculous story, hokey dialogue and character interactions, stupid and inaccurate tactical scenario, and ridiculous flying scenes. Jennifer Connelly is a massive MILF, but there was just zero chemistry (in addition to not even being able to re-tell the 'going ballistic with an Admiral's daughter' story correctly). The entire first Darkstar portion of the story was totally out of place and a waste of time and money that would have been better spent giving us some background on the pilots and WSOs who were getting called in for the mission. "We're all the best...who are they going to get to teach us?" GMAFB. I really wanted to like this one, but even with the huge grains of salt in knowing that it was entertainment and not a documentary, it was still an enormous fail. Odd, after that scathing review, I fully expected to see an underscore in your name. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:14:10 AM EDT
[#6]
Also, did anyone find it odd we don’t know who the enemy is, past, they are ‘the enemy’.
The country is never named. One can only guess Iran, but it’s never fleshed out. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:15:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, did anyone find it odd we don’t know who the enemy is, past, they are ‘the enemy’. The country is never named. One can only guess Iran, but it’s never fleshed out. Top Gun 1986 was the same…. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:18:52 AM EDT
[#8]
Hope it’s better than the original.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:20:43 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Odd, after that scathing review, I fully expected to see an underscore in your name. I guess I'm not familiar enough with GD inside baseball to understand what that means -- some kind of insult? |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:21:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Top Gun 1986 was the same…. The enterprise was in the Indian Ocean during that one so I can only guess Iran. But the OG script had North Korea as the enemy. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:23:03 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Professional what? Movie critic? Professional blimp folder. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:29:15 AM EDT
[#12]
Saw it last night. Really enjoyed it. I'm generally against giving any of my $$$ to Hollyweird, but everything I'd heard said there was no woke bullshit and that turned out to be correct. Tom Cruise is a moonbat, but he seems not to have bought into the woke shit, and he makes some damn entertaining films. Maybe if non-woke movies make zillions of dollars while the ones pushing "the agenda" don't, they'll stop with all the woke wankery. I won't hold my breath...
Anyway, it was at least on par with the original. Yes there was some cringy dialogue (just like the original) and if you know anything about military aviation, the whole setup of their mission and other inaccuracies are going to grate a little (just like the original) but you just need to suspend disbelief and enjoy the ride. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:31:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How was the volleyball? |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 10:35:58 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad to hear this. The previews weren't exactly confidence inspiring. The Applebee's product placement in the commercials seemed to be excessive. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 11:27:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you especially like the part where every segment was represented? That's my favorite and I think the most believable part. Certainly not the 50 year old fighter pilot. That was extremely realistic. In today's Navy, if an Admiral was tasked with picking a team for a heroic mission into enemy territory, what could be more important than making sure the aviators are as diverse as possible? |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 11:28:03 AM EDT
[#16]
Good flick. Very well done, just the right amount of cheesy scenes and lots of great flying sequences. Must see for any red blooded American.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 11:30:17 AM EDT
[#17]
Got my tickets for the family. Can't wait
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Posted: 5/27/2022 11:32:54 AM EDT
[#18]
Sitting here now waiting for the movie to start
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Posted: 5/27/2022 11:36:19 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That was extremely realistic. In today's Navy, if an Admiral was tasked with picking a team for a heroic mission into enemy territory, what could be more important than making sure the aviators are as diverse as possible? In reality the Air Wing on that carrier would provide the pilots to fly it. Interesting the way the movie did it seemed to be similar to how the SEALs planned the Bin Laden raid. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 11:47:31 AM EDT
[#20]
Saw it last night at Imax. Very good. Some woke parts but not too bad (had to have their diversity quota). Jennifer Connelly looks anorexic. The final attack scene reminded me of star wars. I use to bullseye womp rats with my
T-16's back home and they aren't much bigger than two meters. The flying parts were awesome in Imax to be sure. 8.5 rating. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 11:51:47 AM EDT
[#21]
Any further offers or requests for how to illegally stream this will get you a 30 day account lock.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:12:14 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I heard that Harold Faltermeyer did the music for the movie, just like the first one. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:15:27 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any further offers or requests for how to illegally stream this will get you a 30 day account lock. “Sorry, Goose, but it’s time to buzz the tower.” – Maverick  Kenny Loggins - Danger Zone (Official Video - Top Gun) 
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:15:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any further offers or requests for how to illegally stream this will get you a 30 day account lock. Jester's dead |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:16:09 PM EDT
[#25]
I can’t get past the fact that, 35 years later, Mav would be a retired O-6 or O-7 living in San Diego and selling shit to the Navy as a corporate rep.
Ruins it for me.  TC |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:20:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Biggest thing that bothered me was gooses son..... His dad died 36 years ago and he was around 5 in the movie. So he should be 41 bit it portrayed like he is 25
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:26:03 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know about great. He’s has a few character plays. Talk to me Goose, Tom I’m pissed, determined and going to kill you, Tom The fate has brought me here and I can do it, Tom I recognize my life to this point has been a lie, now that I see this I am going to over come the plot challenge, Tom (the above 4 are very close to each other, but are uniquely different it you look at his movies) The Risky Business, look how cute I am and my smile, Tom Ok, I’m vulnerable and need help, Tom I have too, but I don’t do them well love scene, Tom That’s about all his range. He’s made billions doing it over and over…so great I guess. But he’s no Daniel Day Lewis. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's always like that with Tom Cruise because he's fucking weird. Whenever he is on camera, he's acting. If you've watched the videos where he talks about Scientology, you get a glimpse into how completely odd the dude is. His last wife was chosen and groomed by the church of Scientology, for fuck's sake. His on-screen romances never seem natural and I strongly suspect it's because he's a psychopath and incapable of real human emotion. Dude's a great actor but something in his brain is broken. I don’t know about great. He’s has a few character plays. Talk to me Goose, Tom I’m pissed, determined and going to kill you, Tom The fate has brought me here and I can do it, Tom I recognize my life to this point has been a lie, now that I see this I am going to over come the plot challenge, Tom (the above 4 are very close to each other, but are uniquely different it you look at his movies) The Risky Business, look how cute I am and my smile, Tom Ok, I’m vulnerable and need help, Tom I have too, but I don’t do them well love scene, Tom That’s about all his range. He’s made billions doing it over and over…so great I guess. But he’s no Daniel Day Lewis. He isn’t really an actor, he is a movie star. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:27:00 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Biggest thing that bothered me was gooses son..... His dad died 36 years ago and he was around 5 in the movie. So he should be 41 bit it portrayed like he is 25 They never specified this was present day did they? They also never specified the enemy 5th gen fighter was an SU-57 (entered service in 2019 I believe). With as much other reality you have to suspend on this one, its not out of the realm to say the movie is set in 2012ish |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:29:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Biggest thing that bothered me was gooses son..... His dad died 36 years ago and he was around 5 in the movie. So he should be 41 bit it portrayed like he is 25 Miles Teller is 35 so it's fairly appropriate. Also remember this movie was mostly filmed 3-4 years ago. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:31:17 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To the spoiler... he's been flying for around 40 years with multiple combat deployments and has no family, lives in an old hangar. He could have saved up a few million in that scenario. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I saw it at the afternoon matinee for $4. It was silly at times, but that's what I came prepared for. Final mission reminded me of some of those DCS challenges placed on Youtube by the Grim Reapers. Visuals make up for it. I was expecting to see an intense light and sound show and it didn't disappoint. Loads of nostalgia and items that hearken back tot he first film, and the airplane pron is great. Click To View Spoiler To the spoiler... he's been flying for around 40 years with multiple combat deployments and has no family, lives in an old hangar. He could have saved up a few million in that scenario. Also good likelihood he was stationed on either coast as a young pilot. If he bought his house in the 80s, it could be worth millions now. If he was smart enough to buy some rental property back then for pennies, he could have an empire. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:54:55 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Saw...it...last...night. ...The...flight...scenes...were...incredible. ...The...F18...Super...Hornet...was...the...star...of...the...movie. ...Highly...recommend...for...all...as...the...bride...loved...it. On what planet is it okay to use ellipses like this? |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 1:34:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:20:05 PM EDT
[#33]
The hype this movie is getting is unreal.
 TURN AND BURN | BE A MAVERICK |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:21:46 PM EDT
[#34]
Going to see it tomorrow night with my daughters i am looking forward to it
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Posted: 5/27/2022 2:41:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryThe hype is valid |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:01:10 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t get past the fact that, 35 years later, Mav would be a retired O-6 or O-7 living in San Diego and selling shit to the Navy as a corporate rep. Ruins it for me. TC That is brought up on some of the movie trailers, so it's no spoiler. The Rear Admiral that is way to old to be an admiral is telling the captain who is too old to be a captain he should be 3 star admiral or a senator by now. Funny thing is when his character is handed a receipt, he squints and has to move the paper back and forth until he could focus (like most folks int heir 50's do.) Wouldn't that imply his vision is not up to snuff to be a super secret test pilot? |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:07:50 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is brought up on some of the movie trailers, so it's no spoiler. The Rear Admiral that is way to old to be an admiral is telling the captain who is too old to be a captain he should be 3 star admiral or a senator by now. Funny thing is when his character is handed a receipt, he squints and has to move the paper back and forth until he could focus (like most folks int heir 50's do.) Wouldn't that imply his vision is not up to snuff to be a super secret test pilot? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I can’t get past the fact that, 35 years later, Mav would be a retired O-6 or O-7 living in San Diego and selling shit to the Navy as a corporate rep. Ruins it for me. TC That is brought up on some of the movie trailers, so it's no spoiler. The Rear Admiral that is way to old to be an admiral is telling the captain who is too old to be a captain he should be 3 star admiral or a senator by now. Funny thing is when his character is handed a receipt, he squints and has to move the paper back and forth until he could focus (like most folks int heir 50's do.) Wouldn't that imply his vision is not up to snuff to be a super secret test pilot? Spoiler Alert: It's a movie. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:24:35 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A massive disappointment. Even more so given that they had good meat and potatoes to work with. Great cast, great cinematography, and some really nice opportunities to call back to the first movie. It had all the parts to make a massively good movie. That being said, it was just an incoherent mess of a ridiculous story, hokey dialogue and character interactions, stupid and inaccurate tactical scenario, and ridiculous flying scenes. Jennifer Connelly is a massive MILF, but there was just zero chemistry (in addition to not even being able to re-tell the 'going ballistic with an Admiral's daughter' story correctly). The entire first Darkstar portion of the story was totally out of place and a waste of time and money that would have been better spent giving us some background on the pilots and WSOs who were getting called in for the mission. "We're all the best...who are they going to get to teach us?" GMAFB. I really wanted to like this one, but even with the huge grains of salt in knowing that it was entertainment and not a documentary, it was still an enormous fail. Mods should you give you a 30 day timeout from this thread, and life. Boo on you sir... |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:29:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A massive disappointment. Even more so given that they had good meat and potatoes to work with. Great cast, great cinematography, and some really nice opportunities to call back to the first movie. It had all the parts to make a massively good movie. That being said, it was just an incoherent mess of a ridiculous story, hokey dialogue and character interactions, stupid and inaccurate tactical scenario, and ridiculous flying scenes. Jennifer Connelly is a massive MILF, but there was just zero chemistry (in addition to not even being able to re-tell the 'going ballistic with an Admiral's daughter' story correctly). The entire first Darkstar portion of the story was totally out of place and a waste of time and money that would have been better spent giving us some background on the pilots and WSOs who were getting called in for the mission. "We're all the best...who are they going to get to teach us?" GMAFB. I really wanted to like this one, but even with the huge grains of salt in knowing that it was entertainment and not a documentary, it was still an enormous fail. Boo this review. It's a movie. It pays a lot of homage to the original (which was also unrealistic). Just enjoy it for the entertainment factor. It was great. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:30:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Chi-com propaganda.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:33:03 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://tenor.com/view/fuck-loading-idontviveafuck-gif-5354006.gif Never saw the first one, won't be seeing this one....and yes, I thought Heat was a great movie too. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:33:57 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mods should you give you a 30 day timeout from this thread, and life. Boo on you sir... There are plenty of glowing comments from "I play DCS, so I'm practically a fighter pilot" in both this and the other thread extolling its high realism and great storytelling, if that's what you want to read. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:41:25 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are plenty of glowing comments from "I play DCS, so I'm practically a fighter pilot" in both this and the other thread extolling its high realism and great storytelling, if that's what you want to read. You’re just mad there’s not an Iron Eagle remake in the works. I’d watch that. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:41:50 PM EDT
[#44]
Movie was fantastic. Better than the original. They work they did to film the actors reacting to real flight maneuvers comes through spectacularly. Perfect amount for nostalgia and 80's cheese with all the greatness of modern acting and cinematography.
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:43:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are plenty of glowing comments from "I play DCS, so I'm practically a fighter pilot" in both this and the other thread extolling its high realism and great storytelling, if that's what you want to read. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mods should you give you a 30 day timeout from this thread, and life. Boo on you sir... There are plenty of glowing comments from "I play DCS, so I'm practically a fighter pilot" in both this and the other thread extolling its high realism and great storytelling, if that's what you want to read. I'm a Fire Captain with 22 years on the job and run one of the busiest engine Co's in my state. I don't trash the shit out of Back Draft because it unrealistically portrays my line of work, it's a movie FFS. You need to edit your shitty review and be a little more American, if only for todays premier! 
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:44:36 PM EDT
[#46]
How much are you guys paying for it at the movies?
Was thinking of renting it through Redbox this weekend |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:45:43 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How much are you guys paying for it at the movies? Was thinking of renting it through Redbox this weekend Not sure if you’re joking or not but this is the type of movie that needs to be watched in a theater. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:47:25 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure if you’re joking or not but this is the type of movie that needs to be watched in a theater. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How much are you guys paying for it at the movies? Was thinking of renting it through Redbox this weekend Not sure if you’re joking or not but this is the type of movie that needs to be watched in a theater. Agreed. See it on the big screen. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:51:26 PM EDT
[#49]
The movie was pretty good. Effects were awesome. My 13yo daughter was covering her face. You must see this one on the big screen. Script was surprisingly good.
ETA: $5.75 early bird this morning. |
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Posted: 5/27/2022 3:51:36 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How much are you guys paying for it at the movies? Was thinking of renting it through Redbox this weekend Theater exclusive for at least the next few months. Then digital release. Then physical media release. $9 for Cinemark XD screen. |
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