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Link Posted: 5/22/2022 4:30:18 PM EDT
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Metal fuel cans are about $45.  New, made in Europe.  
https://www.roverparts.com/off-road-accessories/jerry-cans/GJC20K4/
Link Posted: 5/22/2022 4:39:35 PM EDT
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I just bought real wavians cheaper than that.
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I just bought real wavians cheaper than that.

Where?!!!

Cheapest I've found genuine Wavians in the last decade, was $6x/ea, and that was years ago.
Link Posted: 5/23/2022 3:16:50 PM EDT
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I had to pick up two of the FDE ones at Lowe's but now I'm unsure what to do with such a thing.
Link Posted: 5/23/2022 3:21:59 PM EDT
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I have a pair of these in green for water.

I never liked them for gas, since I'm so used to using them for water...  I know I'd fook it up.   I use metal 3 handle jerry cans for fuel.

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Get a large packable water filter system and put them together in case of emergency.
Link Posted: 5/23/2022 11:33:04 PM EDT
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You can buy real MWC for half that from buylci.comm
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Thank you.
Link Posted: 5/23/2022 11:37:26 PM EDT
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Meh.  I finally had to replace an ancient blitz can the other day.

The midwest cans are 20 bucks and are compatible with EZ pour spouts.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 12:28:17 AM EDT
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New or used?
Brand new.  Buy with confidence.  The MWC is the gold standard for 5 gallon water cans IMO.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 1:56:25 AM EDT
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Residential vs military grade.
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So it's a military "gas" but water can?
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 7:25:50 AM EDT
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New

Link Posted: 5/24/2022 7:31:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/24/2022 7:36:06 AM EDT
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Meh.  I finally had to replace an ancient blitz can the other day.

The midwest cans are 20 bucks and are compatible with EZ pour spouts.
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This
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 8:02:11 AM EDT
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Roverparts.com
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I just bought real wavians cheaper than that.


What product and where? Interested ??

Roverparts.com

Great cans.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 9:15:48 AM EDT
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Water cans become fuel cans after you fill them with fuel the first time.
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Fuel cans are conductive and won't spark from static electricity. Water cans are not conductive.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 9:19:08 AM EDT
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Fill it with gas? Enjoy pouring gas like everyone did before the tards in CA ruined it...much like they ruin everything.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 9:28:34 AM EDT
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Zoro.com has tan and green US Government Property marked Scepter MWCs for $43 each. Buy 2 and you get free shipping.

I've never tried LCI. I've always heard complaints about leaking.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 9:37:58 AM EDT
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I got a bunch of tan LCI cans a bunch of years ago. I fill them with water every time there’s severe weather warnings.  Came in handy during the big freeze.  They’ve never leaked.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 9:59:07 AM EDT
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Fuel cans are conductive and won't spark from static electricity. Water cans are not conductive.
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Water cans become fuel cans after you fill them with fuel the first time.
Fuel cans are conductive and won't spark from static electricity. Water cans are not conductive.
MFCs (fuel) and MWCs (water) are made of the same exact material:  HDPE.  There's nothing in the MFC spec about being conductive.  There might be a requirement in ASTM F852, haven't looked yet.

Link Posted: 5/24/2022 10:27:47 AM EDT
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I use these for the dirt bikes and quad

"utility jug" from Menards
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 10:34:57 AM EDT
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Just buy new Wavians. Then if you accidentally break the nozzle they ship with you can buy a replacement nozzle. Unfortunately the only nozzles people seem to find are the old school ones that just pour straight out without any sort of Rube Goldberg lock.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 10:53:44 AM EDT
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I just bought real wavians cheaper than that.

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Link Posted: 5/24/2022 10:56:11 AM EDT
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VP style cans are more convenient to use, readily available, and actually designed for fuel.  But they only seem to last me 5-7years.

MFC cans are tougher, longer lasting, and can stack.

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and won't blow up when they're shot.

If that's a concern.  Personally I just like them to standardize, since I found them decently cheap over the years.  And I kind of like the markup nowadays... if I decide do to sell. Wife wonders whey we have 8 empty cans.

I also bought 2 of the 5 gal, and 2 of the 2.5gal MWC in blue - figure between the one-handle and color, I can't screw them up with the Tan and OD 3-handle MFCs.  Though I should go back and buy a nozzle and wrench...
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 12:56:57 PM EDT
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Have you priced AR accessories?
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 1:04:04 PM EDT
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If you need a heavy duty water jug or an actual fuel jug I strongly suggest getting the 5 gallon racing style fuel containers.  They are made for fuel and are easy to move around and take up less room. Make sure you get the nozzle for the tanks.  Some sellers don't have the nozzle attachment included.

https://i.ibb.co/4wyNHBw/fuel-jug.jpg

https://www.blowsion.com/lc2-fuel-jug-5-gallon
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Those are reasonably priced. Why no red color? Black seems like it would draw heat. White any good?
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 1:40:43 PM EDT
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Metal fuel cans are about $45.  New, made in Europe.  
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For now.  I received the below email from campingmaxx on April 15, I would expect everyone’s price to be going up;


Fuel can update:

The steel for our NATO fuel cans was made in Ukraine. The mill was bombed out of existence.

Russia has forcibly sealed the border surrounding Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia. The cans are manufactured in Latvia. The cost to get anything out of Latvia is beyond exorbitant because it must be smuggled out.

We have a container of the authentic NATO cans arriving in port this Friday -- only two months late. We have another container in Hamburg with prepaid shipping, but there has not been any available ship space. This should depart Hamburg shortly. The very last container of the authentic NATO cans is loaded and at the factory in Latvia; however, it cannot be transported across the border. During all of these delays, we are being charged around $450 per day per container.

The factory believes they found a source for steel; however, it is not to the NATO standard of 0.9mm thickness. The three containers mentioned above are the last of the thick steel used to meet NATO specifications.

One point of clarification: Wavian is only a name stamped on cans. It does not guarantee the quality or thickness of steel. The cans are made by ValPro -- for almost 75 years now. Some of the new shipments may not have the Wavian name stamped into the steel but the ValPro name might be on the side and, as always, VP (for ValPro) is stamped into the center carry handle.

We are forced to raise the price to offset the increased costs. We appreciate your business and hope/pray we can return to the previous "normal" conditions shortly.

Ps: We donated and sent a fortune of emergency items to Ukraine.

Very sincerely,

Jerry, Carol, Breana, Miles, and Ryan

Link Posted: 5/24/2022 1:59:07 PM EDT
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VP racing cans for the win
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 2:09:53 PM EDT
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That’s not bad at all.  Thanks for the heads up!
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 2:10:44 PM EDT
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For that price they can keep them.

Last pile of USGI water cans I got in were like $19 apiece, and that was less than a year ago.  There are still deals to be had.

For fuel the real deal steel cans are the way to go.  Availability of parts and accessories for the .mil fuel cans is problematic and the racing jugs - while high quality - are not really meant for medium/long term storage.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 2:44:56 PM EDT
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I bought a bunch from them years ago. A FedEx freight truck pulled up to my house with all of them on a pallet. I unloaded them into my truck and told the driver he could keep the pallet.
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How did those LCI cans work out for you? Were they as good as the Scepter cans?
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 2:49:08 PM EDT
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Not Sceptor (a Canadian company) but just as good.
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Have you had experience with both?
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 2:49:58 PM EDT
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And you can get them for $18 a piece if you know how to look.
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Tell me more. Inquiring minds want to know.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 2:58:46 PM EDT
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The description says for water. Is this rated for use with fuel? Will the plastic hold up? How does the spout work? Can you fill vehicles with it? Thanks for info.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 2:59:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/24/2022 4:39:33 PM EDT
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It's about $300,000 for a simple mold to make a jug.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 6:02:23 PM EDT
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Have you had experience with both?
I've got a bunch of both.  They are GTG.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 10:05:50 PM EDT
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I think the leaking was usually only seen during the .mil test (fill em up. Close 'em and leave them laying on their sides on the tarmac. See if there are any leaks. If they're standing, the only leaks would be from cracks/punctures).
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 10:36:46 PM EDT
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Free shipping in $75 or more last fall. That was three cans and a spare cap.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 10:38:57 PM EDT
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Yes, does anyone have a link to wew.buylci.com?
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 10:52:54 PM EDT
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The description says for water. Is this rated for use with fuel? Will the plastic hold up? How does the spout work? Can you fill vehicles with it? Thanks for info.
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I wouldn't try to put fuel in the water cans.  The style of seal is different.  Some people are close enough to where they can just buy new MFC's and bring them back; otherwise you're increasingly SOL.   There may be additional info out there on retrofitting the water cans into fuel cans, though.

The nice thing about the metal fuel cans is that they pour out very quickly with the correct type of spout, and the bayonet style cap closure doesn't need a wrench to close reliably and open easily.  The annoying part is maintaining the exterior against rust if you're using them for a very long time.

I like the Scepter cans a lot more than the LCI cans but they work, and if the LCI cans are half the price I'll go with them.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 11:07:50 PM EDT
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I bought 4 LCI cans many years ago and they were fine.
A year or two ago I bought 4 more and they were shit.   The mouths were off center, as in different thickness from one side to the other, and the top of the mouths were crooked and impossible to seal.
I found other people saying the same thing around the internet and also that returning them was not a reasonable option.   CS was not helpful.
I will pay extra for Sceptre and will not bother with LCI again.
You can get 5 Sceptres delivered to your local Home Depot for $200, so $40 per.   They are quality.
Link Posted: 5/24/2022 11:32:40 PM EDT
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Some new Scepter Water cans to go with my old LC.
Also got new fuel caps and viton gaskets for the old plastic 3 handle MFCs that had rotted gaskets.

The water pour adapter supposedly only works with the Scepter water cans and not the LC but haven’t tried it yet.
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Link Posted: 5/25/2022 6:51:50 AM EDT
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How did those LCI cans work out for you? Were they as good as the Scepter cans?
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I bought a bunch from them years ago. A FedEx freight truck pulled up to my house with all of them on a pallet. I unloaded them into my truck and told the driver he could keep the pallet.


How did those LCI cans work out for you? Were they as good as the Scepter cans?

They worked fine. They even had the US govt property marks. The only scepter cans that I own are the fuel cans. They seem of the same quality. I only have used the water cans for water though.
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 8:26:15 AM EDT
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There's a gas donkey dick.
Unfortunately it's not big enough to operate the touch less gas cap on my wife's Ford so I still had to use the funnel.
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 8:31:47 AM EDT
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Because just the resin to make the product is the only factor in its price.
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Because just the resin to make the product is the only factor in its price.

If you have a blow molding machine in your garage perhaps you can crank out a bunch and give Arfcom a cut rate?
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 8:35:47 AM EDT
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Seriously though... link/where?
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 8:53:51 AM EDT
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Damn you. They were in stock. Four more....
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 8:54:09 AM EDT
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Thanks Sitsdwnandhagon and Merlin!
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I bought 4 LCI cans many years ago and they were fine.
A year or two ago I bought 4 more and they were shit.   The mouths were off center, as in different thickness from one side to the other, and the top of the mouths were crooked and impossible to seal.
I found other people saying the same thing around the internet and also that returning them was not a reasonable option.   CS was not helpful.
I will pay extra for Sceptre and will not bother with LCI again.
You can get 5 Sceptres delivered to your local Home Depot for $200, so $40 per.   They are quality.
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Seems like my choices are LCIs for $30 or Scepters for $43.  

Did LCI fix the problem? Has anyone purchased LCIs in the last year and have the leakage problem?

I'm buying between 6-10 of them and I don't need the hassle.
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 9:05:30 AM EDT
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For these LCI cans...how long is it ok to store potable water in clean cans? In a non-climate controlled garage vs inside in AC? What about gas?
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 9:09:38 AM EDT
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Scepter on the left LCI on the right.

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i store water with the recommended drops of bleach and rotate it every 12-18 months. it wouldn't be a bad idea to boil or purify it but all the ones ive tried have seemed fine.
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