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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:32:11 AM EDT
[#1]
 Attached FileI see Estonia gave 6 cases of expired MRE , 2 toasters and a pair of socks. Wheres that guy from Estonia that is always shilling for us to give more money and calls everybody a Russian? Broke ass needs to pony up or fuck off. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:37:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:37:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/F4271C90-DCD6-4AF3-9B11-23B5FAF7AA2A_jpe-2390508.JPG I see Estonia gave 6 cases of expired MRE , 2 toasters and a pair of socks. Wheres that guy from Estonia that is always shilling for us to give more money and calls everybody a Russian? Broke ass needs to pony up or fuck off. Estonia sent Javelins, howitzers, rifles and ammunition. As a share of GDP they have sent four times more than anyone else. They’ve sent 1/3 of their annual defense budget, which is 2.3% of GDP and therefore makes them per capita one of the big spenders in Europe. You should be embarrassed. @outofbattery |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:38:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why you no #istandwithukraine ?  ...Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They sent 5 guns and they're tapped out, did I read that right? Germany pledged 7! They need to send the US cash to pay for what we sent instead. It is sickening how we are getting played. Why you no #istandwithukraine ? ... Attached File |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:39:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are "sending an astronomical $40 billion to Ukraine" is an incorrect statement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, the USA is sending an astronomical $40 billion to Ukraine on top of the $30 billion plus we're sending to Israel this year and the Dutch can't be bothered to do more than send five artillery pieces? Well, it's nice to know that our European allies are shouldering their fair share of the burden for a crisis in their backyard. Most of it is getting stolen by politicians. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:39:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, the USA is sending an astronomical $40 billion to Ukraine on top of the $30 billion plus we're sending to Israel this year and the Dutch can't be bothered to do more than send five artillery pieces? Well, it's nice to know that our European allies are shouldering their fair share of the burden for a crisis in their backyard. This is the story of NATO, over and over again. It's just another way to fleece the American tax payer. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:41:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Estonia sent Javelins, howitzers, rifles and ammunition. As a share of GDP they have sent four times more than anyone else. They’ve sent 1/3 of their annual defense budget, which is 2.3% of GDP and therefore makes them per capita one of the big spenders in Europe. You should be embarrassed. @outofbattery Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/F4271C90-DCD6-4AF3-9B11-23B5FAF7AA2A_jpe-2390508.JPG I see Estonia gave 6 cases of expired MRE , 2 toasters and a pair of socks. Wheres that guy from Estonia that is always shilling for us to give more money and calls everybody a Russian? Broke ass needs to pony up or fuck off. Estonia sent Javelins, howitzers, rifles and ammunition. As a share of GDP they have sent four times more than anyone else. They’ve sent 1/3 of their annual defense budget, which is 2.3% of GDP and therefore makes them per capita one of the big spenders in Europe. You should be embarrassed. @outofbattery Well I'm not, because I don't give a single fuck about Ukraine. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:42:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are "sending an astronomical $40 billion to Ukraine" is an incorrect statement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, the USA is sending an astronomical $40 billion to Ukraine on top of the $30 billion plus we're sending to Israel this year and the Dutch can't be bothered to do more than send five artillery pieces? Well, it's nice to know that our European allies are shouldering their fair share of the burden for a crisis in their backyard. 
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:42:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/F4271C90-DCD6-4AF3-9B11-23B5FAF7AA2A_jpe-2390508.JPG I see Estonia gave 6 cases of expired MRE , 2 toasters and a pair of socks. Wheres that guy from Estonia that is always shilling for us to give more money and calls everybody a Russian? Broke ass needs to pony up or fuck off. To be fair that was back for February |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:43:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a small country, with a small (and neglected) military. They probably do not have a lot of these pieces that are fully operational and deployable. At least they did provide something that is useful and works (and not just old obsolete garbage). Why not be mad at the countries that aren’t giving anything? Can we be happy for the countries that aren’t giving anything? |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:43:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I'm not, because I don't give a single fuck about Ukraine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/F4271C90-DCD6-4AF3-9B11-23B5FAF7AA2A_jpe-2390508.JPG I see Estonia gave 6 cases of expired MRE , 2 toasters and a pair of socks. Wheres that guy from Estonia that is always shilling for us to give more money and calls everybody a Russian? Broke ass needs to pony up or fuck off. Estonia sent Javelins, howitzers, rifles and ammunition. As a share of GDP they have sent four times more than anyone else. They’ve sent 1/3 of their annual defense budget, which is 2.3% of GDP and therefore makes them per capita one of the big spenders in Europe. You should be embarrassed. @outofbattery Well I'm not, because I don't give a single fuck about Ukraine. You should give a fuck about know what’s going on before you speak. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:43:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is sickening how we are getting played. We = the American tax payer. The politicians are getting richer. None of this is an accident. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:44:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Europe is so fuckin lame Lol yep |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:45:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's the Netherlands - If you park 10 of them end to end, one has to stick over a border. Hence why our Netherlands member loves to say high fuel prices are okay with him …. End to end his driving distance can be spanned by a yo-yo |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:46:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/F4271C90-DCD6-4AF3-9B11-23B5FAF7AA2A_jpe-2390508.JPG I see Estonia gave 6 cases of expired MRE , 2 toasters and a pair of socks. Wheres that guy from Estonia that is always shilling for us to give more money and calls everybody a Russian? Broke ass needs to pony up or fuck off.  "As he looked up, Jesus saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins. 'I tell you the truth,' he said, 'this poor widow has put in more than all the others. All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had" |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:47:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you provide a source to back that claim up that isn’t a Russian or Russian aligned source? No, you can’t. Can you provide a source to back that claim up that isn’t a Russian or Russian aligned source? No, you can’t. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: All while the comedian who runs Ukraine gets closer to having a Billion Dollars in his personal bank account, He's currently up to $850,000,000 I wonder what Hunter & the Big Guy's cut is? Quoted: honestly, why would you send a single fricking bullet to a country who's President has amassed an 850MILLION dollar fortune in just a few years as President? he's very CLEARLY scraping money, he can buy his shit himself. Can you provide a source to back that claim up that isn’t a Russian or Russian aligned source? No, you can’t. Quoted: All while the comedian who runs Ukraine gets closer to having a Billion Dollars in his personal bank account, He's currently up to $850,000,000 I wonder what Hunter & the Big Guy's cut is? Can you provide a source to back that claim up that isn’t a Russian or Russian aligned source? No, you can’t. Which leads me to another question… Why do GD’s authoritative posters never provide sources themselves? |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:49:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which leads me to another question… Why do GD’s authoritative posters never provide sources themselves? I provide sources all of the time. Proving the negative isn’t my thing though. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:49:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They sent 5 guns and they're tapped out, did I read that right? That contribution is about 20% of their force in active service. That is a sizable contribution for such a small military. If we gave the same percent, we'd be giving 849 pieces. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:50:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That contribution is about 20% of their force in active service. That is a sizable contribution for such a small military. They need to be embarrassed about what they don’t have, not what they gave. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:53:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which leads me to another question… Why do GD’s authoritative posters never provide sources themselves? Because people have their prejudices and they hate to be corrected, especially if they look like loudmouth jackasses. As for the Dutch being shit out of artillery. That's sad, but inevitable. For everyone reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeing! About the expense of the conflict in Ukraine. Which is more expensive? A gruesome proxy war or a full on nuclear exchange with Russia? This conflict is awful, but it is airing out persistent rot that has needed to be addressed for years and it can easily get a whole lot worse. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:53:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My statement is correct. We are not sending $40 billion to Ukraine. Especially in the way it is getting painted, as cash for the Ukrainian gov to steal. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:56:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Strong repudiation! My statement is correct. We are not sending $40 billion to Ukraine. Especially in the way it is getting painted, as cash for the Ukrainian gov to steal. So the entire Ukrainian government is running off to some place like the Virgin Islands to enjoy their ill gotten gains while their people are being slaughtered? Oh well, I suppose the citizenry of all these countries can always be counted on to be good little tax cattle. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:57:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Estonia sent Javelins, howitzers, rifles and ammunition. As a share of GDP they have sent four times more than anyone else. They’ve sent 1/3 of their annual defense budget, which is 2.3% of GDP and therefore makes them per capita one of the big spenders in Europe. You should be embarrassed. @outofbattery Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/F4271C90-DCD6-4AF3-9B11-23B5FAF7AA2A_jpe-2390508.JPG I see Estonia gave 6 cases of expired MRE , 2 toasters and a pair of socks. Wheres that guy from Estonia that is always shilling for us to give more money and calls everybody a Russian? Broke ass needs to pony up or fuck off. Estonia sent Javelins, howitzers, rifles and ammunition. As a share of GDP they have sent four times more than anyone else. They’ve sent 1/3 of their annual defense budget, which is 2.3% of GDP and therefore makes them per capita one of the big spenders in Europe. You should be embarrassed. @outofbattery  Thanks for the irrelevant info That’s not his point |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:57:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are "sending an astronomical $40 billion to Ukraine" is an incorrect statement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, the USA is sending an astronomical $40 billion to Ukraine on top of the $30 billion plus we're sending to Israel this year and the Dutch can't be bothered to do more than send five artillery pieces? Well, it's nice to know that our European allies are shouldering their fair share of the burden for a crisis in their backyard. We agree, it’s $54B and it’s an understatement. $54,000,000,000.00 |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:58:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We agree, it’s $54B and it’s an understatement. $54,000,000,000.00 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, the USA is sending an astronomical $40 billion to Ukraine on top of the $30 billion plus we're sending to Israel this year and the Dutch can't be bothered to do more than send five artillery pieces? Well, it's nice to know that our European allies are shouldering their fair share of the burden for a crisis in their backyard. We agree, it’s $54B and it’s an understatement. $54,000,000,000.00 Yet something like half of the money or the things it buys will never cross the Ukrainian border and most of the rest is the value of weapons, not cash, given to them. People seem to think this is a cash deal like Obama made with Iran. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:58:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should give a fuck about know what’s going on before you speak. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/F4271C90-DCD6-4AF3-9B11-23B5FAF7AA2A_jpe-2390508.JPG I see Estonia gave 6 cases of expired MRE , 2 toasters and a pair of socks. Wheres that guy from Estonia that is always shilling for us to give more money and calls everybody a Russian? Broke ass needs to pony up or fuck off. Estonia sent Javelins, howitzers, rifles and ammunition. As a share of GDP they have sent four times more than anyone else. They’ve sent 1/3 of their annual defense budget, which is 2.3% of GDP and therefore makes them per capita one of the big spenders in Europe. You should be embarrassed. @outofbattery Well I'm not, because I don't give a single fuck about Ukraine. You should give a fuck about know what’s going on before you speak.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:59:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the irrelevant info That’s not his point How point is that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and doesn’t mind. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 11:59:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I should be clear. $11B is the authorization for the direct transfer of current US property. Sunk costs. $9B is authorized new spending. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Only a small amount of it actually goes to weapons. Most will pay NGOs managed by leftists and the elite to provide humanitarian aid. 20 billion of the 40 is dedicated towards military expenses I should be clear. $11B is the authorization for the direct transfer of current US property. Sunk costs. $9B is authorized new spending. “small amount” |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/F4271C90-DCD6-4AF3-9B11-23B5FAF7AA2A_jpe-2390508.JPG I see Estonia gave 6 cases of expired MRE , 2 toasters and a pair of socks. Wheres that guy from Estonia that is always shilling for us to give more money and calls everybody a Russian? Broke ass needs to pony up or fuck off. Estonia sent Javelins, howitzers, rifles and ammunition. As a share of GDP they have sent four times more than anyone else. They’ve sent 1/3 of their annual defense budget, which is 2.3% of GDP and therefore makes them per capita one of the big spenders in Europe. You should be embarrassed. @outofbattery Well I'm not, because I don't give a single fuck about Ukraine. You should give a fuck about know what’s going on before you speak. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/LOL-UMAD-BRO1gqf_zps44023202_JPG-109.jpg Mad, no. Judging, yes. Your countries tanks are going to have a hard time getting spares now that the plant was blown up btw. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:00:03 PM EDT
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Ha, I knew this was going to happen. Another money making boondoggle for the politicians lining their pockets and we get to foot the bill.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:00:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “small amount” Yeah, something like $14B of $54B. I don’t support the $40B bill btw. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:00:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Strong repudiation! My statement is correct. We are not sending $40 billion to Ukraine. Especially in the way it is getting painted, as cash for the Ukrainian gov to steal. As long as you are cool with paying my student loans I’ll pivot my stance. We cool? |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:01:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As long as you are cool with paying my student loans I’ll pivot my stance. We cool? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Strong repudiation! My statement is correct. We are not sending $40 billion to Ukraine. Especially in the way it is getting painted, as cash for the Ukrainian gov to steal. As long as you are cool with paying my student loans I’ll pivot my stance. We cool? Ah look, the FSA has its hand out again. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:01:35 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So the entire Ukrainian government is running off to some place like the Virgin Islands to enjoy their ill gotten gains while their people are being slaughtered? Oh well, I suppose the citizenry of all these countries can always be counted on to be good little tax cattle. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:01:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha, I knew this was going to happen. Another money making boondoggle for the politicians lining their pockets and we get to foot the bill. As long as people suck it up and bear the theft it there's really not much incentive for already insanely wealthy and powerful people to keep fucking everyone over and stealing everything that is not nailed down. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:03:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should give a fuck about know what’s going on before you speak. Or what? You're going to bot post 500 more times? 
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:06:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They need to be embarrassed about what they don’t have, not what they gave. They are not a big country, 17 million. They have been increasing their forces since Trump jumped their asses but still, they are not a major player. Active infantry only amounts to 2 Brigades. Yes, they could do more but don't hold your breath. You can't get blood out of a carrot. Don't forget their military is unionized. A shining example of why we never want to go down that rabbit hole. lol |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:06:15 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As long as you are cool with paying my student loans I'll pivot my stance. We cool? Here is the proper use of..... |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:07:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is mind boggling to think about how armed the world was leading up to the world wars, and how disarmed it is now. The Dutch had 700 heavy artillery pieces going into WW2. Um, you better read up on that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_in_World_War_II |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:07:08 PM EDT
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There aren’t but 18 howitzers at most in a US inf or armor bde. 5 is a good amount to come from the Dutch
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:07:55 PM EDT
[#41]
Story sounds like they are refusing to help Ukraine when in fact they can’t help Ukraine any more.
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:10:44 PM EDT
[#42]
The Euroweenies support will slowly fade away as long as they know the US will continue to write the big checks. Get ready for the $100B check October 1st.
Ghost of Kiev!!! |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:11:51 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Story sounds like they are refusing to help Ukraine when in fact they can’t help Ukraine any more. 
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:13:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is mind boggling to think about how armed the world was leading up to the world wars, and how disarmed it is now. The Dutch had 700 heavy artillery pieces going into WW2. It seems like Russia, China, and us are the only people with arms stockpiles anymore. It does feel like an odd climate of arms. If the countries providing weapons really wanted to send arms to Ukraine they not only can, but they would be some pretty high caliber modern weaponry. Enough to wipe out any air force and navy nearby. It's like WWII weapons on a modern battle field. I can not understand how Russia is not dominating Ukraine with devastating air assaults. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:16:37 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Story sounds like they are refusing to help Ukraine when in fact they can’t help Ukraine any more. Story is  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:17:16 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is mind boggling to think about how armed the world was leading up to the world wars, and how disarmed it is now. The Dutch had 700 heavy artillery pieces going into WW2. It seems like Russia, China, and us are the only people with arms stockpiles anymore. That’s what happens when you allow yourself to be played as a sugar daddy since the end of WW2. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:18:21 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Europe is so fuckin lame And yet half our country emulates them. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:20:06 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It does feel like an odd climate of arms. If the countries providing weapons really wanted to send arms to Ukraine they not only can, but they would be some pretty high caliber modern weaponry. Enough to wipe out any air force and navy nearby. It's like WWII weapons on a modern battle field. I can not understand how Russia is not dominating Ukraine with devastating air assaults. The Russian invasion has been a clusterfuck of truly epic proportions. Incompetence the likes of which I'm not sure has ever been seen before. Certainly not in a European war. |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:20:55 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Story sounds like they are refusing to help Ukraine when in fact they can’t help Ukraine any more. What they have left isn’t enough to provide any serious defense, so they should just send it all. They know we’ll crank up the printing press to 11 for their defense. What’s a little more inflation, right? |
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Posted: 5/20/2022 12:23:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/298946/B4077F62-B5F9-423D-A797-7F6EB8523633_jpe-2390521.JPG All you can do is laugh. Laugh indeed. I was paying $85,000 per year in Fed taxes before Ukraine was invaded. I hate it more than I can say, but 40b is literally a drop in the bucket. |
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