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Sell the VS700 as is. It is not worth the time to put any money into it. Find a TW200 and put it in the back of a pickup truck. You might have to drive a bit to find what you want. Any of the popular dual sports will have lowering links available, easy installation. |
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Quoted: Short and sweet: Sell the VS700 as is. It is not worth the time to put any money into it. Find a TW200 and put it in the back of a pickup truck. You might have to drive a bit to find what you want. Any of the popular dual sports will have lowering links available, easy installation. View Quote Emphasis on this. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Short and sweet: Sell the VS700 as is. It is not worth the time to put any money into it. Find a TW200 and put it in the back of a pickup truck. You might have to drive a bit to find what you want. Any of the popular dual sports will have lowering links available, easy installation. Emphasis on this. Thought about that. I suppose I could put up a Facebook marketplace ad and just say it includes the carb rebuild kit and then the buyer can do it themselves but any thoughts on a fair price? The bike is tip top aside from the gummed up carbs. Thanks! |
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Quoted: Thought about that. I suppose I could put up a Facebook marketplace ad and just say it includes the carb rebuild kit and then the buyer can do it themselves but any thoughts on a fair price? The bike is tip top aside from the gummed up carbs. Thanks! View Quote Tough call. If I had a nickel for every listing that says “just needs the carb cleaned” I’d go out and buy a Lamborghini. As a buyer if it’s not running, assume it won’t. |
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Quoted: Thought about that. I suppose I could put up a Facebook marketplace ad and just say it includes the carb rebuild kit and then the buyer can do it themselves but any thoughts on a fair price? The bike is tip top aside from the gummed up carbs. Thanks! View Quote I didn’t realize that was all that was holding it up. If you already have the carb rebuild kit I would go ahead and spend an hour or two to get it running. Hopefully that is all it is. It’s just a single carb isn’t it? A running bike is worth much more than a non-running bike. |
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Quoted: I didn’t realize that was all that was holding it up. If you already have the carb rebuild kit I would go ahead and spend an hour or two to get it running. Hopefully that is all it is. It’s just a single carb isn’t it? A running bike is worth much more than a non-running bike. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Thought about that. I suppose I could put up a Facebook marketplace ad and just say it includes the carb rebuild kit and then the buyer can do it themselves but any thoughts on a fair price? The bike is tip top aside from the gummed up carbs. Thanks! I didn’t realize that was all that was holding it up. If you already have the carb rebuild kit I would go ahead and spend an hour or two to get it running. Hopefully that is all it is. It’s just a single carb isn’t it? A running bike is worth much more than a non-running bike. While I do most of my car/bike work needed, I don't trust myself to rebuild two 35 year old carbs. I'd rather pay $200 or so to have someone else do it....hence the appt in June I scheduled in April to have it done. After that it'd going up for sale. I paid $1250 for it 12 years ago. If I can get close to that out of it I'll be happy. |
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Quoted: While I do most of my car/bike work needed, I don't trust myself to rebuild two 35 year old carbs. I'd rather pay $200 or so to have someone else do it....hence the appt in June I scheduled in April to have it done. After that it'd going up for sale. I paid $1250 for it 12 years ago. If I can get close to that out of it I'll be happy. View Quote Hell, you have nothing to lose trying to rebuild them. If it doesn't work then just sell as is. I wouldn't pay someone. Pay attention to the needle settings and float bowl height as you disassemble them and start there when you reassemble. If it runs then throw it up for $2000 and you will likely sell it for $1500 or maybe your $1250 no problem. If it doesn't run then start at a grand and see what happens. |
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Quoted: While I do most of my car/bike work needed, I don't trust myself to rebuild two 35 year old carbs. I'd rather pay $200 or so to have someone else do it....hence the appt in June I scheduled in April to have it done. After that it'd going up for sale. I paid $1250 for it 12 years ago. If I can get close to that out of it I'll be happy. View Quote It's surprisingly pretty simple. Don't be intimidated by it. Youtube is your friend. I just did 2 carbs off of a 1979 Suzuki. Both slides were incredibly stuck. Once those were free, it was easy street. You can buy the correct japanese phillips screwdrivers to lessen the chance of stripping the screws, and don't over torque the jets when putting back together. I'd say a AR is more complicated to clean. Someone else isn't going to clean it like you would. |
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Quoted: It's surprisingly pretty simple. Don't be intimidated by it. Youtube is your friend. I just did 2 carbs off of a 1979 Suzuki. Both slides were incredibly stuck. Once those were free, it was easy street. You can buy the correct japanese phillips screwdrivers to lessen the chance of stripping the screws, and don't over torque the jets when putting back together. I'd say a AR is more complicated to clean. Someone else isn't going to clean it like you would. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: While I do most of my car/bike work needed, I don't trust myself to rebuild two 35 year old carbs. I'd rather pay $200 or so to have someone else do it....hence the appt in June I scheduled in April to have it done. After that it'd going up for sale. I paid $1250 for it 12 years ago. If I can get close to that out of it I'll be happy. It's surprisingly pretty simple. Don't be intimidated by it. Youtube is your friend. I just did 2 carbs off of a 1979 Suzuki. Both slides were incredibly stuck. Once those were free, it was easy street. You can buy the correct japanese phillips screwdrivers to lessen the chance of stripping the screws, and don't over torque the jets when putting back together. I'd say a AR is more complicated to clean. Someone else isn't going to clean it like you would. Oh there's two specific vids on YouTube that are quite detailed showing how to do it for my exact bike! But again the delicate nature and super tiny sizes of all the parts....makes me quite concerns I'm going to fuck it up! I dunno maybe I'll try it and I guess so long as I don't lose anything I can still have it towed but yeah the apprehension is palpable with the whole procedure! |
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I'm 5' 8" with about a 30" inseam.
About a year and a half ago I bought a KTM 790 Adventure and pretty quickly decided it was too tall and heavy for the type of riding I like to do. Sold it and bought a Kawasaki KLX300 last December. I like the KLX much better. I can nearly flat foot it with both feet. Plenty of power and go about 70 mph although I wouldn't want to cruise at those speeds very long. It does fine around 55-60 mph. It also does pretty good off road. I have taken it on some pretty gnarly trails and haven't had a problem yet. I have ridden with someone on a TW200 a few times and it seems under powered and too slow. We have had to pull over and let traffic pass more than once and he has had trouble on some of the steeper/longer hill climbs. Before I bought my KLX I made a list of every motorcycle that I was possibly interested in and looked up the seat height and weight of all of them. Most adventure/dual sport/dirt bikes are too tall for me but most of them can be lowered. In the end I decided that the KLX would do everything I wanted it to and it has a decent seat height and is reasonably light. Happy with it so far. That said, if you really don't plan to go off road the supermoto version would probably suit you better. |
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Honda CRF300L or rally.
My wife is 5'7" with short legs and she makes it work. |
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I greatly appreciate all the replies. I looked around at the classifieds and called to all the area dealers but, on the used market, the prices for the miles and age are just not sitting well with me. The closest was that TW200 in Gettysburg which, after $100 in gas would be around $5300 OTD for an 10 year old bike. But nothing else really came close.
Just a quick trigger warning that what I plan to buy might pop a few blood vessels..... Ultimately, a China bike is what I'm going with....for now. Specifically the Lifan X Pect. It's a low seated 200cc dual sport. Other than the chubby tires on the TW200 the X Pect is close to a clone....maybe closer to the XT250. But in any case, that's what I'm going with. Did my homework on it which is to say I spoke directly to Lifan, PowersportsMax (seller), my insurance, my notary, my local mechanic, chinariders (forum), youtube vids, reviews..... and I feel confident in the purchase. Worst case, it's $1958 delivered to my house and $2300 registered/titled/ensured and I'm comfortable rolling the dice on it. Wish I could have found a Japanese bike for a reasonable amount in excellent shape but the world/market isn't exactly reasonable right now. In the future, if/when things settle down, I'll revisit the issue. Thanks again!!! |
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Quoted: I greatly appreciate all the replies. I looked around at the classifieds and called to all the area dealers but, on the used market, the prices for the miles and age are just not sitting well with me. The closest was that TW200 in Gettysburg which, after $100 in gas would be around $5300 OTD for an 10 year old bike. But nothing else really came close. Just a quick trigger warning that what I plan to buy might pop a few blood vessels..... Ultimately, a China bike is what I'm going with....for now. Specifically the Lifan X Pect. It's a low seated 200cc dual sport. Other than the chubby tires on the TW200 the X Pect is close to a clone....maybe closer to the XT250. But in any case, that's what I'm going with. Did my homework on it which is to say I spoke directly to Lifan, PowersportsMax (seller), my insurance, my notary, my local mechanic, chinariders (forum), youtube vids, reviews..... and I feel confident in the purchase. Worst case, it's $1958 delivered to my house and $2300 registered/titled/ensured and I'm comfortable rolling the dice on it. Wish I could have found a Japanese bike for a reasonable amount in excellent shape but the world/market isn't exactly reasonable right now. In the future, if/when things settle down, I'll revisit the issue. Thanks again!!! View Quote Madness. A good bike will hold value and they are tried and true. Do as you will but I think you are pissing money away. |
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Quoted: Madness. A good bike will hold value and they are tried and true. Do as you will but I think you are pissing money away. View Quote |
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Quoted: I only paid $2500 for my wife's XT-250(used), if I ever want to sell it I could get that and more back from it. I also can still buy any part I need for it even though it's a 12 year old bike and in 12 more years I can guarantee I'll still be able to get parts for it. A China Clone Bike from a company that may or may not be around in a couple of years? View Quote Chinese bikes are pieces of shit. Don't do it OP. |
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Quoted: Chinese bikes are pieces of shit. Don't do it OP. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I only paid $2500 for my wife's XT-250(used), if I ever want to sell it I could get that and more back from it. I also can still buy any part I need for it even though it's a 12 year old bike and in 12 more years I can guarantee I'll still be able to get parts for it. A China Clone Bike from a company that may or may not be around in a couple of years? Chinese bikes are pieces of shit. Don't do it OP. Yeah, good luck getting parts. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I only paid $2500 for my wife's XT-250(used), if I ever want to sell it I could get that and more back from it. I also can still buy any part I need for it even though it's a 12 year old bike and in 12 more years I can guarantee I'll still be able to get parts for it. A China Clone Bike from a company that may or may not be around in a couple of years? Chinese bikes are pieces of shit. Don't do it OP. Yeah, good luck getting parts. Aside from motor and frame.... All parts needed. |
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Quoted: I only paid $2500 for my wife's XT-250(used), if I ever want to sell it I could get that and more back from it. I also can still buy any part I need for it even though it's a 12 year old bike and in 12 more years I can guarantee I'll still be able to get parts for it. A China Clone Bike from a company that may or may not be around in a couple of years? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Madness. A good bike will hold value and they are tried and true. Do as you will but I think you are pissing money away. Paid $1250 for my Intruder,. According to earlier replies I might get between $1500 and $2k for it when I go to sell it in the near future. And that's 35 years old with no mechanic willing to work on it. What good are parts in 30-40 years if no one will touch it? Definitely understand the value of Jap bikes. But mine is at the end of it's road for anyone other than someone willing to do all work on their own without any support. Can't say the same for the China bike. My mechanic said he'll do what's needed so long as I provide the parts. Also, Lifan itself is 30 years old. New to the country but not exactly fly by night. |
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Those Chinese bikes are the High Point of the motorcycle world. A guy from work just had to have a bike and picked one up. It was disappointing to ride and surprisingly heavy. Made of weak potted metal stuff so they just doubled or tripled the amount of junk metal until it was strong enough. Something on it cracked and he quit talking about it entirely.
This was a few years back so maybe they got better. |
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Quoted: Those Chinese bikes are the High Point of the motorcycle world. A guy from work just had to have a bike and picked one up. It was disappointing to ride and surprisingly heavy. Made of weak potted metal stuff so they just doubled or tripled the amount of junk metal until it was strong enough. Something on it cracked and he quit talking about it entirely. This was a few years back so maybe they got better. View Quote This was absolutely the case 3-5 years ago. Scared me away every time I considered it. From my research it is no longer the case. Are there sporadic stripped bolts? Yes, but very rare from my reading/talking to owners. |
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We had this same discussion with another poster a few months back. He decided on a Chinese bike as well. We haven’t heard an update. I suspect he caught the gay. You have been warned, OP.
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I'm 5'6" and have ridden kx and cr 500s and couldn't touch the ground on either without really leaning the bike. The only bike that gave me issues ever was a custom Harley low rider. I had to sit on the tank to reach the stretched out forward controls. My co worker who owned it was 6'7" lol.
Where in pa op? My brother owns an auto shop and is a rider who does work on bikes too. I also have a friend who does it on the side |
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Quoted: We had this same discussion with another poster a few months back. He decided on a Chinese bike as well. We haven’t heard an update. I suspect he caught the gay. You have been warned, OP. View Quote Any links to the thread? I'll gladly PM the guy. I tried searching Lifan and a few other terms and couldn't find any threads. This was a few days ago. |
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Quoted: I'm 5'6" and have ridden kx and cr 500s and couldn't touch the ground on either without really leaning the bike. The only bike that gave me issues ever was a custom Harley low rider. I had to sit on the tank to reach the stretched out forward controls. My co worker who owned it was 6'7" lol. Where in pa op? My brother owns an auto shop and is a rider who does work on bikes too. I also have a friend who does it on the side View Quote Lehigh Valley area. About 15min from the Jersey border. Thanks |
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Quoted: Any links to the thread? I'll gladly PM the guy. I tried searching Lifan and a few other terms and couldn't find any threads. This was a few days ago. View Quote No idea, but it was pretty much the same thread as this. Even the old bike he couldn’t get running. Could be six months or more. You can guess what everyone who has been riding for decades advice was… |
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Quoted: No idea, but it was pretty much the same thread as this. Even the old bike he couldn’t get running. Could be six months or more. You can guess what everyone who has been riding for decades advice was… View Quote While I'm planning to order one, clearly the Japanese bikes would be my preference! I'll miss my Suzuki! But I'm tired of waiting. Been two years since I was out riding!! Started a thread specifically asking for arguments. As I said at the end of that, if there is an argument/concern I didn't think of and I can't refute it.....I won't buy one. |
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Quoted: While I'm planning to order one, clearly the Japanese bikes would be my preference! I'll miss my Suzuki! But I'm tired of waiting. Been two years since I was out riding!! Started a thread specifically asking for arguments. As I said at the end of that, if there is an argument/concern I didn't think of and I can't refute it.....I won't buy one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No idea, but it was pretty much the same thread as this. Even the old bike he couldn’t get running. Could be six months or more. You can guess what everyone who has been riding for decades advice was… While I'm planning to order one, clearly the Japanese bikes would be my preference! I'll miss my Suzuki! But I'm tired of waiting. Been two years since I was out riding!! Started a thread specifically asking for arguments. As I said at the end of that, if there is an argument/concern I didn't think of and I can't refute it.....I won't buy one. Chinese bikes are throw away bikes. Guess you'll find that out the hard way. Best of luck. |
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Quoted: Chinese bikes are throw away bikes. Guess you'll find that out the hard way. Best of luck. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No idea, but it was pretty much the same thread as this. Even the old bike he couldn’t get running. Could be six months or more. You can guess what everyone who has been riding for decades advice was… While I'm planning to order one, clearly the Japanese bikes would be my preference! I'll miss my Suzuki! But I'm tired of waiting. Been two years since I was out riding!! Started a thread specifically asking for arguments. As I said at the end of that, if there is an argument/concern I didn't think of and I can't refute it.....I won't buy one. Chinese bikes are throw away bikes. Guess you'll find that out the hard way. Best of luck. I refuted your last concern and you respond by jumping on someone else's bandwagon? |
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Yamaha xt250 2014+ for the fuel injection.
Carbs are the worst |
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Quoted: Ephrata Honda has this https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/247800/Screenshot_20220519-212022_png-2389985.JPG View Quote I do appreciate the effort but trading an 86 for a 96 isn't quite the leap I'm looking for. |
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Versys X 300, small, capable, light, fast, cheap and economical
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Quoted: Ephrata Honda has this https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/247800/Screenshot_20220519-212022_png-2389985.JPG View Quote Nice find! Fun bike. |
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Quoted: I do appreciate the effort but trading an 86 for a 96 isn't quite the leap I'm looking for. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Ephrata Honda has this https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/247800/Screenshot_20220519-212022_png-2389985.JPG I do appreciate the effort but trading an 86 for a 96 isn't quite the leap I'm looking for. They have an Africa Twin too. I pass it every morning. It's like $14k or something though. Dude I work with is searching hard for a Tenere 1200, I'll ask him if he's come across anything smaller. |
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OP, if you can't work on the carbs yourself, I doubt you can get it done for 200 bucks, you'll pay closer to 500 bucks and that isn't worth the cost. Sell the thing for 1000 and call it good. You might want to consider a Kymco K-pipe. A quality Taiwanese brand with 100% USA support. I've owned 4 Kymcos had have had no problems with them and the parts supply is no issue, all USA company supported.
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Quoted: The OP of this thread was the OP of that thread too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: No idea, but it was pretty much the same thread as this. Even the old bike he couldn’t get running. Could be six months or more. You can guess what everyone who has been riding for decades advice was… The OP of this thread was the OP of that thread too. Wouldn't surprise me. I've been wrestling with this a while. |
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Quoted: OP, if you can't work on the carbs yourself, I doubt you can get it done for 200 bucks, you'll pay closer to 500 bucks and that isn't worth the cost. Sell the thing for 1000 and call it good. You might want to consider a Kymco K-pipe. A quality Taiwanese brand with 100% USA support. I've owned 4 Kymcos had have had no problems with them and the parts supply is no issue, all USA company supported. View Quote Just going by what the mechanic that'll be working on it told me. |
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Honda crf230l, only imported in 08/09, tops out about 70mph, gets ~70mpg unless your WOT on the highway all the time. They were available in Enduro and super moto versions.
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Quoted: She is a hell of a rider. Far beyond my abilities. Just imagine what she could do on a TW200 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Two TW200s near Lehigh Valley according to cycletrader. I'm also 5'8" w/ a 29" inseam. My KLR had lowering links and it worked fine. My Vstrom is regular height and I'm gtg. CRF300, WR250, XT250, KLX are all doable. Many bikes are very doable w/ the right technique. Take a look at Jocelin Snow (vid below), she's 5'1" 118 lbs, but competed in the GS Trophy challenge (I think that's what it's called) on a GS1200 a few years back. Her videos show the technique for riding, stopping, picking up, etc., big bikes. I met her and saw her do a demo at a Touratech Rally a few years back, she's impressive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYp1zXyc0fA She is a hell of a rider. Far beyond my abilities. Just imagine what she could do on a TW200 |
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I've been toying with the idea of making my CRF230F street legal. I just got it last fall and it's my first bike, so pretty limited riding experience. It's easy to tool around the yard on, but for some reason it feels somewhat squirrelly on the road. I'm guessing it's because the tires are more suited for of road and I need something more suited for dual sport? What's the easiest way to do the lights? DIY generic led kits?
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Quoted: I greatly appreciate all the replies. I looked around at the classifieds and called to all the area dealers but, on the used market, the prices for the miles and age are just not sitting well with me. The closest was that TW200 in Gettysburg which, after $100 in gas would be around $5300 OTD for an 10 year old bike. But nothing else really came close. Just a quick trigger warning that what I plan to buy might pop a few blood vessels..... Ultimately, a China bike is what I'm going with....for now. Specifically the Lifan X Pect. It's a low seated 200cc dual sport. Other than the chubby tires on the TW200 the X Pect is close to a clone....maybe closer to the XT250. But in any case, that's what I'm going with. Did my homework on it which is to say I spoke directly to Lifan, PowersportsMax (seller), my insurance, my notary, my local mechanic, chinariders (forum), youtube vids, reviews..... and I feel confident in the purchase. Worst case, it's $1958 delivered to my house and $2300 registered/titled/ensured and I'm comfortable rolling the dice on it. Wish I could have found a Japanese bike for a reasonable amount in excellent shape but the world/market isn't exactly reasonable right now. In the future, if/when things settle down, I'll revisit the issue. Thanks again!!! View Quote |
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Quoted: This was absolutely the case 3-5 years ago. Scared me away every time I considered it. From my research it is no longer the case. Are there sporadic stripped bolts? Yes, but very rare from my reading/talking to owners. View Quote |
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Quoted: Dude I work with is searching hard for a Tenere 1200, I'll ask him if he's come across anything smaller. View Quote Have Super Tens suddenly become scarce? While not ubiquitous, they weren't rare either. And first gens were still all over the used market last I checked. Or did you mean the T700? I wouldn't be surprised if the 700 demand is still outpacing supply. |
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