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Quoted: And for all the crying about Putin being Soviet KGB...no one ever questions Merkel who was a East German party official. View Quote Transitional government sealed the Stasi files. They actually raced the public to stash them because they feared what would happen if the public found out it was their friends, relatives and neighbors that ratted them out. Street lamps would’ve been full. |
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Quoted: They had nukes. Like a few thousand of them. The problem is that we convinced them to give them up, because we promised to have their back. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Give Ukraine Nukes and let them fight. They had nukes. Like a few thousand of them. The problem is that we convinced them to give them up, because we promised to have their back. We killed Taiwan's nuclear program too. Didn't stop NK though! |
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Quoted: I think we should pull all of our shit out of the rest of the world. Fortify the fuck out of our defenses. Build an economy around our own production and resources and mind our own fucking business. With our nuke supply nobody will ever invade or attack us. We just need to be more self sufficient. View Quote You've just described North Korea |
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Quoted: They had nukes. Like a few thousand of them. The problem is that we convinced them to give them up, because we promised to have their back. View Quote We never had their back just like Georgia. We did this shit as provocation. Read some damn Brzezinski. He said that Americans wouldn’t have the stomach to push the region into conflict to weaken the Russians. The goal wasn’t to defeat Russia it was to give them a come to Jesus moment. Russia is too resource important to Europe and you’re seeing that…this is “Afghanistan intervention” 2.0. They want another limited conventional conflict ala Chechnya. Our politicians don’t give a flyin’ fuck about Ukraine and never have except to make some dirty cash off of us in it’s name. They’ve admitted that the main reason Ukraine isn’t going to be a NATO or EU member is because both political factions are inherently corrupt. |
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Move on China should be our response, they are our real enemy, not shitty Russia. Sell the Ukrainians anti tank and stingers. Have Nato put troops in Poland and other Nato countries.
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Jack shit.
Seriously though, we need to be very careful playing in Russian sphere of influence. Posting more troops and weapons on the Russian border is a senseless provocation that defies logic and 70+ years Mutually Assured Destruction. FJB is a danger to us all |
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Tell Russia they can't enter the Ukraine unless they have a negative CV19 test within the last 72 hours.
Make them wear masks and social distance. Shut down the businesses in the area and induce economic collapse. Everyone will go home and telework. |
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I think our wise and brave president should draw a red line in the sand... err snow.
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It seems like the U.S. government can't do nothing, because of decades of idiocy and playing empire
If it does nothing, they look extremely weak, after the tough talk and ultimatums. That would rapidly accelerate the decline of empire. The real question is what that does with the world's monetary system. Fighting and not winning in convincing fashion is probably worse. Rolling Russia probably has nuclear risks Hopefully they don't fuck things up too bad for us, any which way |
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Quoted: I think we should pull all of our shit out of the rest of the world. Fortify the fuck out of our defenses. Build an economy around our own production and resources and mind our own fucking business. With our nuke supply nobody will ever invade or attack us. We just need to be more self sufficient. View Quote This right here. The US has resources to be largely self sufficient, and plenty of trading power for the few things we need, without promising to be world police. It won’t happen though because swamp, and UN loving liberals. |
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Make them sit there thru spring, a wet spring. Keep pumping money to the UKs and let the costs go up for Putin, per day.
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Quoted: Fund and supply Ukraine so they can maintain an active insurgency against Russia that is simply unbearable for Russia long term. Bleed Russia dry. Then flood eastern Europe with men and equipment so that the very thing Putin seems to fear most (US troops in the region) comes to pass on a grand scale. And cut them off at the ankles with sanctions for good measure. We can't go kinetic on the bastards over Ukraine. But we should do pretty much anything short of that. Now, if they actually try to pull any shit with any NATO member nation, then we need to immediately do to them what we did to the Wagner Group contractors in Syria. Squash those fuckers like bugs. View Quote You seem to think Russia wont fight back. Flying planes on bombing runs without reprisal over a bunch of goat herders while fighting a third world, first century middle eastern country is a whole lot different than fighting a peer military. We would probably outclass the Russian military but it would come at a cost we haven't paid in a long long time. |
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Quoted: Troops and aircraft to Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia, as a deterrent and insist that NATO members match with troops alongside. Advisors and air defense systems for Ukraine and a shit ton of antitank weapons. View Quote Supply Ukraine with hundreds of thousands of cheap explosive drones programable to home in on targets independently. Fly and forget. |
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Quoted: I mean, FJB. But let’s be real. What should our phased and flexible response options be? How does GD think we should posture? View Quote You Tell Us. What are we doing? |
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Quoted: I think we should pull all of our shit out of the rest of the world. Fortify the fuck out of our defenses. Build an economy around our own production and resources and mind our own fucking business. With our nuke supply nobody will ever invade or attack us. We just need to be more self sufficient. View Quote All you will do is gut our economy, cause massive unemployment, and dramatically raise the price of goods. Brilliant! Isolation is a loser's strategy. Isolation is a fantasy that is doomed from the start. The two oceans are no longer barriers but highways. |
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Quoted: We hate communists, right? Until it’s time to actually bring some hate to the communists? View Quote Unless we clean our own house, then it's a waste of time. Neither the Traitorcrats, nor the Neocon back stabbers give a fuck about the American people. We are just a resource to be exploited for their gain while they scold and look down upon us. I despise them all. “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” -Marcus Tullius Cicero, 42 B.C. |
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Let Ukraine buy as many weapons as they can afford, share intelligence on Russian movements and assets that enter Ukraine. Other than that, it's their country to spill their own blood for, not ours.
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Target Moscow with a nuke. Give 1,000 fake/decoy triggers and 20 real ones (they all transmit codes, just not the right ones) to random nationalist Ukrainians, including Ukrainians who are in other countries, with a setting that 3 have to be pushed at the same time to launch the nuke. The triggers do not become active unless they are invaded. Let Putin know the rules of the game.
Do the same for Beijing with the Taiwanese. |
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Gather former Eastern Euro anti-Russia nations, then invade Russia.
Putin's head on spike over Kremlin. Cull majority of Russian males to avoid insurgencies. Build many ski resorts. Hike gas price to Germany for being pussies. Export hot Russian blondes to GD basement dwellers. |
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Quoted: I think we should pull all of our shit out of the rest of the world. Fortify the fuck out of our defenses. Build an economy around our own production and resources and mind our own fucking business. With our nuke supply nobody will ever invade or attack us. We just need to be more self sufficient. View Quote Yup. Who wants to send their kid to die for who knows what the fuck is going on over there. WHEN I CAN WALK IN Detroit at night, then you can send your kids to get killed in some foreign place. |
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We should have nuked the fucking Russkis off the face of the Earth back in the ‘40s when we had the chance.
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Quoted: We hate communists, right? Until it’s time to actually bring some hate to the communists? View Quote We fought Russian/Soviet commies for decades without actually getting into a direct shooting war with them. Different times, I suppose. Back then, nobody thought getting into World War III was a good option, even if it was a midterm year. |
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Quoted: Like the Europeans handled Yugoslavia Hint: Germany didn't want competition from a western friendly Yugoslavia so the EC did virtually nothing about the Balkans until it was too late. Just enough effort for show when it was time to play cleanup with the lame ass excuse that was KFOR - apologies to anyone here who participated, I mean no disrespect. And not surprising that Germany is at it again, playing fucking games with Ukraine and Russia and probably will prevent NATO or the EU from intervening to stop a war. Why the fuck does Europe trust Germany View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Let the European union deal with it. The way I see it. We have no business in that part of the world. Let the Euros deal with their own problems........ Not our problem. Like the Europeans handled Yugoslavia Hint: Germany didn't want competition from a western friendly Yugoslavia so the EC did virtually nothing about the Balkans until it was too late. Just enough effort for show when it was time to play cleanup with the lame ass excuse that was KFOR - apologies to anyone here who participated, I mean no disrespect. And not surprising that Germany is at it again, playing fucking games with Ukraine and Russia and probably will prevent NATO or the EU from intervening to stop a war. Why the fuck does Europe trust Germany 1) Because Merkel, commie though she may be, actually has the balls and the motivation to get shit done and done her way. This is an exceptionally rare characteristic amongst western political leaders. Please note, she may be “retired” at this point in time but her proxies are still running the show on her behalf both in the chancellery and in the European Commission. 2) Because Germany has money and the economic stability to back it up long term. Unfortunately, the people described in 1) are and have always been, in spite of public assurances otherwise and accusations of such against their opponents, friends of Russia and Vladimir Putin. |
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Quoted: We fought Russian/Soviet commies for decades without actually getting into a direct shooting war with them. Different times, I suppose. Back then, nobody thought getting into World War III was a good option, even if it was a midterm year. View Quote The only people I see predicting WW3 are here. That said, sometimes GD is prophetic. But sometimes, it’s 4D tardation. TBD, I suppose. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Yes, please. Take more of my money away in taxes to give to the Obama installed regime. Fuck right off with that shit. Zelensky wasn't installed by Obama. Zelensky is Ukraine’s Trump. I was in Ukraine during the run-up to his election, the establishment were throwing everything they could at him. The accusation that he’s a puppet of Vladimir Putin certainly hasn’t held up well. Zelensky, like Trump, is the product of people getting tired being fucked over by the same people again and again for decades and deciding “fuck it, let’s roll the dice with a non-politician, it couldn’t be any worse”. |
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If Biden had ballz he would just make Ukraine part of NATO problem solved.
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Quoted: We should have nuked the fucking Russkis off the face of the Earth back in the ‘40s when we had the chance. View Quote And hauled all Communist leadership and members of the Frankfurt schools to trial for crimes against humanity, followed by execution. Now the same Neocon trash like to play the Communism card to garner support when they do nothing to stop the spread of collectivist BS or corruption of our Nations institutions by Putin like objects. They are Con artists. |
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Quoted: Gather former Eastern Euro anti-Russia nations, then invade Russia. Putin's head on spike over Kremlin. Cull majority of Russian males to avoid insurgencies. Build many ski resorts. Hike gas price to Germany for being pussies. Export hot Russian blondes to GD basement dwellers. View Quote I like the cut of your jib and would like to subscribe to your newsletter |
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I say let Russia have the Ukraine.
No Russian communist ever called me "deplorable." No Chinese communist ever called me a "white privilege racist." If we must start killing communist's, lets kill them at home first. |
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Quoted: Granted. But if we let Russia roll through Ukraine, our NATO Allies in Eastern Europe are next. Then what? View Quote Oh...wait....I heard this one before....how's it go? Domino Theory, that's it. Yeah, fuck it all, Nam, Terror, the Afghan debacle fuck it all. We won't even protect our own here. Fucking war pigs, you go or send yours. |
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Quoted: I think we should pull all of our shit out of the rest of the world. Fortify the fuck out of our defenses. Build an economy around our own production and resources and mind our own fucking business. With our nuke supply nobody will ever invade or attack us. We just need to be more self sufficient. View Quote Attached File |
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Guess they should have played the TRUMP Card instead of the BIDEN Deck..
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Quoted: I think we should pull all of our shit out of the rest of the world. Fortify the fuck out of our defenses. Build an economy around our own production and resources and mind our own fucking business. With our nuke supply nobody will ever invade or attack us. We just need to be more self sufficient. View Quote This is where the thread should end. @victorgonzales |
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We needed strong leadership to begin with and displayed a carrot and a club BEFORE Russia pulled this shit. Instead, Biden showed Putin weakness and opportunity. If Putin or Xi were ever waiting for the time to take what they want, it is now.
Whatever we do now is like asking a bully for your lunch money back. |
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Stay out of it.
What, they gonna cut a bigger check to Hunter this time? IDGAF |
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