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Posted: 1/19/2022 11:56:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol....I'd be suprised if it got crushed that much, the numbers out today were really good. also, we are having quite the rally in energy Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: holy shit, the Sp500 is down 5% YTD after a 26% run in 2021 and you all are bitching about the start to this year?  I want down 20-30% dammit!!! lol....I'd be suprised if it got crushed that much, the numbers out today were really good. also, we are having quite the rally in energy Tech is on sale. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 11:57:45 AM EDT
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A better topic would be what is everyone buying in these small sales? I'm new to this so trying to learn quickly.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:00:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A better topic would be what is everyone buying in these small sales? I'm new to this so trying to learn quickly. Large cap growth and/or value that’s 10% off highs. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:01:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tech is on sale. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: holy shit, the Sp500 is down 5% YTD after a 26% run in 2021 and you all are bitching about the start to this year? I want down 20-30% dammit!!! lol....I'd be suprised if it got crushed that much, the numbers out today were really good. also, we are having quite the rally in energy Tech is on sale. Yeah Cathy Wood is probably hitting the sales rack on wallstreet right now |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:01:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A better topic would be what is everyone buying in these small sales? I'm new to this so trying to learn quickly. Blue Horseshoe loves anacott steel |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:03:07 PM EDT
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I'm still 10-12 years away from retiring. I mostly keep my $$ in index funds and try not to look at my balances on down days because I am confident that the market will be more up than down over the next 10 years.
I just checked and I'm down a few % YTD, but have a 17.6% rate of return over the last 3 years. I'm good with that. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:07:22 PM EDT
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Look at what max amount you can afford to put in. Then put more. More. More. It's all on sale. Play the long game.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:07:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A better topic would be what is everyone buying in these small sales? I'm new to this so trying to learn quickly. I just put my annual backdoor Roth IRA contribution into VTI (Total Market Index Fund). There's no particular sector that I'm super excited about, more due to ignorance than anything else, so I just buy the whole thing. I have a pretty large position in QQQ which does have lots of overlap with VTI but it leans my whole portfolio more aggressive. It's been a good call for the past 10 years. I'm not sure if I should rethink that for the next 10 years or not and take some gains back to VTI. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:10:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Large cap growth and/or value that’s 10% off highs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A better topic would be what is everyone buying in these small sales? I'm new to this so trying to learn quickly. Large cap growth and/or value that’s 10% off highs. Thanks, I'll check it out. I usually lurk these threads and always like seeing your input in them. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:12:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, I'll check it out. I usually lurk these threads and always like seeing your input in them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: A better topic would be what is everyone buying in these small sales? I'm new to this so trying to learn quickly. Large cap growth and/or value that’s 10% off highs. Thanks, I'll check it out. I usually lurk these threads and always like seeing your input in them. Just remember I’m a long term guy. I hate selling but love buying. I invest, I don’t trade. I buy a set amount every Friday automatically. That’s outside the 401k/tax deferred accounts. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:16:10 PM EDT
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We’re only 19 days into the year.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:16:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just remember I’m a long term guy. I hate selling but love buying. I invest, I don’t trade. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A better topic would be what is everyone buying in these small sales? I'm new to this so trying to learn quickly. Large cap growth and/or value that’s 10% off highs. Thanks, I'll check it out. I usually lurk these threads and always like seeing your input in them. Just remember I’m a long term guy. I hate selling but love buying. I invest, I don’t trade. I've noticed  that approach sounds good to me, I don't have the time or energy to keep up with day to day trading and I have a long time to go till retirement age so I want to build and put my money to work instead of wasting away in a savings account, which is what I've done prior.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:17:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blue Horseshoe loves anacott steel Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A better topic would be what is everyone buying in these small sales? I'm new to this so trying to learn quickly. Blue Horseshoe loves anacott steel I had to Google that
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:28:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a review with my wealth manager yeserday. We laughed about how the market was "tanking". I told her I wasn't worried until she called me in a panic. She showed me a couple of articles from smart people she follows that expect the Dow to be 40k+ by year's end. I thought it was supposed to work the opposite way. I thought the client called the wealth manager in a panic, and the wealth manager applied some "behavioral coaching" to talk him down. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:31:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A better topic would be what is everyone buying in these small sales? I'm new to this so trying to learn quickly. Energy was extremely cheap. Very much shunned. After the rally of January, it's still somewhat cheap. The dividends are impressive too. One of the few sectors that is down over the last 5 years. Crypto in the next 5 years has as much room to run as anything. With thousands of cryptos, that's a broad statement, I realize. I like BTC, and dabble in the alts. I think silver has room to run. The USD is in deep, deep shit. Long-term, all fiat is circling the drain. I've been leaning to commodities of all kinds, from precious/industrial metals to grains, ramping up in the last 2 years. Of course, all IMHO. I still like some tech. I dabble in semi-conductor index...which yes has gone up a lot. Still room to run. Overall, the next decade, imo, will not look like the last decade. Last decade was all US stock, all the time. That won't last forever. The US stock market cap to US GDP ratio is way out of whack. Reversion to the mean is a thing. ETA: If you're looking for a contrarian play, I also trade Russian stocks. Which has been interesting .
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:36:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had to Google that Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: A better topic would be what is everyone buying in these small sales? I'm new to this so trying to learn quickly. Blue Horseshoe loves anacott steel I had to Google that 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:45:36 PM EDT
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This is not as bad as 08, the fed is stopping all stimulus and the market is having a temper tantrum
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:46:12 PM EDT
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Yeah, looking great.
But my employer was very generous with a discretionary 401k contrition, over the regular one. It amounted to .00039 percent of salary. Not sure how they even came up with that number. Record savings since we were not allowed to travel and get per diem and mileage. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:48:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your wealth manager called you in a panic after looking at some articles? I thought it was supposed to work the opposite way. I thought the client called the wealth manager in a panic, and the wealth manager applied some "behavioral coaching" to talk him down. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I had a review with my wealth manager yeserday. We laughed about how the market was "tanking". I told her I wasn't worried until she called me in a panic. She showed me a couple of articles from smart people she follows that expect the Dow to be 40k+ by year's end. I thought it was supposed to work the opposite way. I thought the client called the wealth manager in a panic, and the wealth manager applied some "behavioral coaching" to talk him down. He's saying he wouldn't worry UNTIL she called him in a panic Not that she did. Wouldn't implies future tense. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:48:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When life gives you lemons you make lemonade. Stocks are on sale. If you have 5 to 10 years to retire buy all you can now. If your going to retire in less than 5 years move to bonds. I'm afraid it's going to get ugly in the next 3 years. Bonds? Are you nuts? The Fed has said it's going to raise rates multiple times this year. Do you know what that will do to bond values? Are you new at this? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:49:35 PM EDT
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Your 401K balance doesn't mean shit until the day you retire.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 12:51:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your 401K balance doesn't mean shit until the day you FIFY. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:04:58 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just keep funding your 401k and buying stocks. This is the time to pick up stuff on sale. I'm going to max my 401k again this year and probably divide any extra money between Crypto and stocks. I'm just going to point out that this is exactly how huge-ass bubbles get blown and then collapse. It's correct until it's not. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:06:31 PM EDT
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It’s gonna be like 2018
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:10:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just going to point out that this is exactly how huge-ass bubbles get blown and then collapse. It's correct until it's not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just keep funding your 401k and buying stocks. This is the time to pick up stuff on sale. I'm going to max my 401k again this year and probably divide any extra money between Crypto and stocks. I'm just going to point out that this is exactly how huge-ass bubbles get blown and then collapse. It's correct until it's not. Then don’t contribute to your 401k. You’ll show them! |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:10:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s gonna be like 2018 Which was a great year if you just kept maxing your 401k and keeping 100% us sp500 fund My 401k is like 65k. And I just started it 18 months ago. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:14:19 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: holy shit, the Sp500 is down 5% YTD after a 26% run in 2021 and you all are bitching about the start to this year? Doomers gotta doom, man. It’s the same every year. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:18:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which was a great year if you just kept maxing your 401k and keeping 100% us sp500 fund My 401k is like 65k. And I just started it 18 months ago. Ok, to the ultimate permabull, is there a point where US equities are no longer a good deal?  I'm a value guy. I don't see value there. Other than a few rare stocks, I have to leave the US to find any value. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:19:35 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm guessing you meant trailing twelve months? If not, 22% in 19 days is impressive indeed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s a marathon and not a sprint. Even with the current sell off im up 22% YTD. That’s not bad at all. I'm guessing you meant trailing twelve months? If not, 22% in 19 days is impressive indeed. Yes. The last 12 months. My mistake. 22% in 20 days would be awesome |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:21:13 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, to the ultimate permabull, is there a point where US equities are no longer a good deal? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJGBa4YXwAESGcB?format=png&name=900x900 I'm a value guy. I don't see value there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which was a great year if you just kept maxing your 401k and keeping 100% us sp500 fund My 401k is like 65k. And I just started it 18 months ago. Ok, to the ultimate permabull, is there a point where US equities are no longer a good deal? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJGBa4YXwAESGcB?format=png&name=900x900 I'm a value guy. I don't see value there. Understood. Where else you gonna make money? I will always be 100% us stock. Then again I’m in growth mode. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:25:28 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuote History |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:26:48 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's saying he wouldn't worry UNTIL she called him in a panic Not that she did. Wouldn't implies future tense. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I had a review with my wealth manager yeserday. We laughed about how the market was "tanking". I told her I wasn't worried until she called me in a panic. She showed me a couple of articles from smart people she follows that expect the Dow to be 40k+ by year's end. I thought it was supposed to work the opposite way. I thought the client called the wealth manager in a panic, and the wealth manager applied some "behavioral coaching" to talk him down. He's saying he wouldn't worry UNTIL she called him in a panic Not that she did. Wouldn't implies future tense. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:28:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:28:35 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Understood. Where else you gonna make money? I will always be 100% us stock. Then again I’m in growth mode. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Which was a great year if you just kept maxing your 401k and keeping 100% us sp500 fund My 401k is like 65k. And I just started it 18 months ago. Ok, to the ultimate permabull, is there a point where US equities are no longer a good deal? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJGBa4YXwAESGcB?format=png&name=900x900 I'm a value guy. I don't see value there. Understood. Where else you gonna make money? I will always be 100% us stock. Then again I’m in growth mode. So, is your plan to basically wait for a trend change? If the S&P 500 started losing 10% per year, for multiple years, would you alter course? Just asking. A lot of people are trend followers. And you can make a lot of money doing that. Also, I'm not the least bit concerned about this: 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:29:41 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just going to point out that this is exactly how huge-ass bubbles get blown and then collapse. It's correct until it's not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just keep funding your 401k and buying stocks. This is the time to pick up stuff on sale. I'm going to max my 401k again this year and probably divide any extra money between Crypto and stocks. I'm just going to point out that this is exactly how huge-ass bubbles get blown and then collapse. It's correct until it's not. I regret none of the dollars I invested in 1999 and 2007. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:30:00 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything is fine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/200878/D252AC72-4535-473A-B3AA-594617C81E3D_jpe-2246002.JPG Better than fine, those oil stocks are finally taking a run 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:32:06 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I regret none of the dollars I invested in 1999 and 2007. All I see is a buying opportunity. 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:32:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just going to point out that this is exactly how huge-ass bubbles get blown and then collapse. It's correct until it's not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just keep funding your 401k and buying stocks. This is the time to pick up stuff on sale. I'm going to max my 401k again this year and probably divide any extra money between Crypto and stocks. I'm just going to point out that this is exactly how huge-ass bubbles get blown and then collapse. It's correct until it's not. 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:37:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, is your plan to basically wait for a trend change? If the S&P 500 started losing 10% per year, for multiple years, would you alter course? Just asking. A lot of people are trend followers. And you can make a lot of money doing that. Also, I'm not the least bit concerned about this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJG5OkeXEAAsjda?format=jpg&name=small Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Which was a great year if you just kept maxing your 401k and keeping 100% us sp500 fund My 401k is like 65k. And I just started it 18 months ago. Ok, to the ultimate permabull, is there a point where US equities are no longer a good deal? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJGBa4YXwAESGcB?format=png&name=900x900 I'm a value guy. I don't see value there. Understood. Where else you gonna make money? I will always be 100% us stock. Then again I’m in growth mode. So, is your plan to basically wait for a trend change? If the S&P 500 started losing 10% per year, for multiple years, would you alter course? Just asking. A lot of people are trend followers. And you can make a lot of money doing that. Also, I'm not the least bit concerned about this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJG5OkeXEAAsjda?format=jpg&name=small I’m a trend follower. The trend is sp500 averages 10% returns over the long term, so I follow that long term trend. I wouldn’t alter course if it started dropping 10% every year. In fact I’d be giddy if that happened. Just like I was giddy March 2020. I’m 4 years from retiring before 55. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:40:07 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We’re only 19 days into the year. I know buts its a shit show and only going to get worse.
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:42:44 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know buts its a shit show and only going to get worse. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We’re only 19 days into the year. I know buts its a shit show and only going to get worse. My 401(k) is actually up YTD… |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:43:35 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I try not to let it bother me, but it's really starting to piss me off. This. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:45:25 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a trend follower. The trend is sp500 averages 10% returns over the long term, so I follow that long term trend. I wouldn’t alter course if it started dropping 10% every year. In fact I’d be giddy if that happened. I’m 4 years from retiring before 55. 10% average is nice. The problem I see is the last 5 years have been outsized, averaging over 20%/year, and skewed the long-term average. Reversion to the mean is, basically, guaranteed. Granted, it can go on for longer than one might expect. I'm partially retired, before 45. I think I need to move south for the winter to enjoy that though
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:54:25 PM EDT
[#44]
Just keep buying MSFT
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Posted: 1/19/2022 1:57:52 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Seriously?  We're a few percent off the ATH and the whiners are out? Did you put it all in ARKK at the peak or something? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 2:15:30 PM EDT
[#46]
We are 3 weeks into the year. Your expectations need calibrated if you are spotting your thong at this stage of the game.
People truly have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to investments. Blind ass luck probably moves them onward and upward. If a company is matching- at least get the match. For me, the tax break of withholding the maximum allowed is a no brainer. Market growth plus company match? Where do I sign??? |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 2:25:17 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Long term game..my TSP C and S funds are buying a ton more shares at a lower price.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 2:37:10 PM EDT
[#48]
Guys remember when the DJIA crashed to 8k. We never recovered. Especially when it crashed down to 18k. Then it crashed to 24k.
We NEVER recovered. It’s rigged. And we’ll never recover from the crash to 35k. |
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Posted: 1/19/2022 2:40:18 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's done nothing but go up for 2 YEARS. A correction is NOT a bad thing. This lmao. Like are people serious? 
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Posted: 1/19/2022 2:40:43 PM EDT
[#50]
Its an election year. It will go UUUUPPPP to make the voters happy...even if they have to dump money blindly into the economy. There will be stimulus and both parties will try to out do one another on vote buying.
This would be a good time to open a store selling TVs, Rims, and fake handbags. |
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