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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:44:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wubaru: I don’t post much but this made me try to remember my password to log in and vote. Op, you remind me of a ton of liberals i know. Always running their mouth and never following through with their bets. I would msg the person you lost to and try to reach an agreement. I am sure he is more than willing to work with you. Just consider it a stupid tax and maybe next time your mouth won’t write checks you can’t cash.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:44:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By King_Mud: Posting proof and saying "Pay up" looks like de facto acceptance of the bet to me. I don't see the need to put "I accept" right above all that. I agree Seems pretty clear cut to me. The OP needs to pay up. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:44:52 AM EDT
[#3]
You called a bet. Maybe the other guy didn’t have a chance fast enough to say “you’re on” but you still called it. You owe him something. Maybe 5-10 magazines.
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NM, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:45:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tboy: Too bad I never stated that I was willing to be part of that bet or what side I would be taking. I'm just trying to garner up interest so I need at least another person to counter to make this work. Consider me the bookie with my 10% cut! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tboy: Originally Posted By 44Punk: :clears throat loudly: I accept. In accepting, I state(bet) that the OP will not honor the terms of the initial bet, by paying one(1) case of pmags to the poster that stated Andrew Dice Clay was in MASH. If OP does honor the bet and ships the case(within 30 days), with documentation posted on arfcom, I will buy @Tboy a one year bronze membership. IF I do not honor my bet, may my honor and my family’s name forever be stained, and may God have mercy on my soul. Too bad I never stated that I was willing to be part of that bet or what side I would be taking. I'm just trying to garner up interest so I need at least another person to counter to make this work. Consider me the bookie with my 10% cut! Lot of that going around lately. 
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:47:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 8upwitHDs: OP...time to pay up. And a case is 100 mags. 10 mags is a 10 pack. Just saying. Case of PMAGs Case of PMAGs Case of M3 mags You always pay for your education one way or another. OP signed up for an expensive class. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:47:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DamascusKnifemaker: As much as I would like to absolve OP from owing a whole case I can't. The other party made it very clear he intended to accept the bet when he posted this. While I understand your point, what you're saying is akin to you being able to formalize a bet on a horse race after you have seen the winner... how would he have lost the bet? Come back and say "duh! I checked everywhere... cant find it. Where do you want your pmags sent?" or just have said nothng? Hence the need to formalize the bet... which wasnt done. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:49:38 AM EDT
[#7]
The outcome is a reflection on one person.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:50:06 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoFnNamesLeft: The offer is considered “accepted” by the simple action of providing proof. There was no other side to the bet that needed to be agreed upon; there was no “if I win —> then “A””, “If you win, then “B””. Tough life lessons dictate a full case of mags is owed. It would only be through bandits generosity that you should owe less. Ideally, bushbandit would realize that he profits unduly from your careless action; takes a 10% skim from the box, and forwards the rest to be deposited under the Arf Christmas tree to be distributed as 10 packs and donation credited to original payee. Isnt there an implied term? Bet usually involves a stake... sometimes odds. Prize would have been one sided... |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:51:02 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wubaru: I don't post much but this made me try to remember my password to log in and vote. Op, you remind me of a ton of liberals i know. Always running their mouth and never following through with their bets. I would msg the person you lost to and try to reach an agreement. I am sure he is more than willing to work with you. Just consider it a stupid tax and maybe next time your mouth won't write checks you can't cash. 
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:51:09 AM EDT
[#10]
Well if you didn't owe him before you certainly do now as you indicated that the poll would decide.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:51:21 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hankforker: On it's face it seems ridiculous, but I could see how it might be taken as legitimate. It should have been used as a tongue in cheek moment to harass NG. Taking the bet seriously because OMG free case of pmags is sort of dickish. As I see it, it is wrong to not pay up the case of pmags. It is also wrong to accept the case of pmags. The proper payment should be a case of pmags that have been custom stippled with dicks. Lots and lots of dicks. Maybe one, dick free and painted gold like a winning ticket to a candy factory. These mags should never be used for anything except stupid bets on arfcom. Dickmags could then find themselves littered throughout the community until one day, during the boog they are united to end tyranny and rain freedom. Make it so. I don’t personally spend much time pondering the Orb, but this response is 💯 what I’d expect to find at the end of a lengthy gaze into the deep blue. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:51:49 AM EDT
[#12]
Wow, what a cluster fuck OP.
You really step in it. LOL! Famous you have become, pmagless you will be! |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:54:44 AM EDT
[#13]
The OP in that thread saved your ass by just under 3 minutes. He posted the answer before your challengee could agree to bet.
Case closed! (slams gavel).  |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:55:16 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wubaru: I don’t post much but this made me try to remember my password to log in and vote. Op, you remind me of a ton of liberals i know. Always running their mouth and never following through with their bets. I would msg the person you lost to and try to reach an agreement. I am sure he is more than willing to work with you. Just consider it a stupid tax and maybe next time your mouth won’t write checks you can’t cash. Yup. Were I OP, I'd try to negotiate the fee down somewhat, but I'd owe the Pmags. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:55:41 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By madmacs69: Isnt there an implied term? Bet usually involves a stake... sometimes odds. Prize would have been one sided... Sometimes it is. For example: “I bet you a $100 you can’t jump that canal on a 125 dirt bike” (Kicks bike and full sends clear to the other side) Now.... who owes what? |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:55:42 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DmacRTCo: Looks to me like you owe the man a case of pmags. Yup Your cock holster got you in trouble this time. Pay the man. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:56:01 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By madmacs69: Isnt there an implied term? Bet usually involves a stake... sometimes odds. Prize would have been one sided... The terms were the loser pays a case of pmags. It was even odds. It was a stupid bet on the OP’s part. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:56:59 AM EDT
[#18]
Ok. OP buy a case of PMAGS. Give 25 to the winner and send the other 75 to 75 (one each) guys who posted in this thread since he started it. JK
He needs to pay the man |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:58:47 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCoop: The OP in that thread saved your ass by just under 3 minutes. He posted the answer before your challengee could agree to bet. Case closed! (slams gavel). Notice I did not reply to OP in that thread when he posted that?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:00:16 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JT_26: I'm kind of leaning this way too, the other guy didn't trust his opinion enough to take you up on the bet, sort of like a bluff in poker. You still should make an public apology that you were wrong. Think twice before you throw out a bet like that again. You got lucky this time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JT_26: Originally Posted By Birddog1911: He said he didn't want to bet, then finds the video...after the OP posted the facts. His saying no prior absolves you of owing him. I'm kind of leaning this way too, the other guy didn't trust his opinion enough to take you up on the bet, sort of like a bluff in poker. You still should make an public apology that you were wrong. Think twice before you throw out a bet like that again. You got lucky this time. What are you two reading? It was a different poster that said “no” |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:01:46 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoFnNamesLeft: Sometimes it is. For example: “I bet you a $100 you can’t jump that canal on a 125 dirt bike” (Kicks bike and full sends clear to the other side) Now.... who owes what? Well since he wasnt on the bike and didnt jump the canal, then it depends if that was his practice jump... if that was his actual attempt... then he failed. This is of course predicated on him having ACCEPTED the bet BEFORE his attempt. Otherwise he might come here attempting to welch on the "bet" saying it wasnt accepted and post a poll or something. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:01:57 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoFnNamesLeft: Sometimes it is. For example: “I bet you a $100 you can’t jump that canal on a 125 dirt bike” (Kicks bike and full sends clear to the other side) Now.... who owes what? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoFnNamesLeft: Originally Posted By madmacs69: Isnt there an implied term? Bet usually involves a stake... sometimes odds. Prize would have been one sided... Sometimes it is. For example: “I bet you a $100 you can’t jump that canal on a 125 dirt bike” (Kicks bike and full sends clear to the other side) Now.... who owes what? That is really only the easy question of the scenario. The real question, to affirm the contract, is what happens in that case when the dude fails to clear the jump on his bike? Does he owe or does he have recourse to say he never agreed to the terms prior to the jump? |
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USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:02:46 PM EDT
[#23]
Send him a box of pee fetish porn mags.
If that type of thing exists. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:03:15 PM EDT
[#24]
You said the jury decides,Pay up
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:04:02 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bladeswitcher: The terms were the loser pays a case of pmags. It was even odds. It was a stupid bet on the OP’s part. Once again... OP would have to rely on the honesty of the other party saying they had agreed to the bet before he could claim his 100 pmags. Hence why the bet gets accepted FIRST. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:04:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: walkinginadangerzone]
[#26]
I say @bushbandit should state whether he wants the full case of Pmags, or willing to settle out. Whether in private or in this thread, as it's a trial now.
That said, I think it's a formal acceptance of the bet. He chose not to alter the OPs bet since he knew he was right. Bandit's post "Remember he had an appearance on M*A*S*H" is clear indication that he knew he came out on MASH.  No post edit, and he simply stated "pay up". That is plain acceptance in the simplest fashion. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:05:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9over40]
[#27]
Wait a minute here. OPs title says arfcom will be the jury. Nothing said about aimless or subnet being the final resolve. He specifically asked us to decide with a poll. Now he’s crawfishing out of that request. OP is too impulsive and doesn’t follow what he says. He gets in trouble and wants to backslide. Go with the poll. I first said 5-10 magazines and it dawned on me.. he asked GD to decide his fate. We decided it and it’s 80-20 to pay up the case.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:05:35 PM EDT
[#28]
The bike jumping analogy is wrong. What happened was that the challenger bet that the challengee's bike couldn't jump the ditch. Then some other guy got on the bike and jumped the ditch first.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:06:35 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Oldmikey: You said the jury decides,Pay up The Poll doesn't count. GD is a hoard of crayon eating button clicking autists who don't read anything before rendering rulings. This is established. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:06:36 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9over40: Wait a minute here. OPs title says arfcom will be the jury. Nothing said about aimless or subnet being the final resolve. He specifically asked and I’m to decide with a poll. Now he’s crawfishing out of that request. OP is too impulsive and doesn’t follow what he says. He gets in trouble and wants to backslide. Go with the poll. I first said 5-10 magazines and it dawned on me.. he asked GD to decide his fate. We decided it and it’s 80-20 to pay up. Yup. The man is owed a case of Pmags. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:08:18 PM EDT
[#31]
Why would anyone make a relatively expensive wager against a claim when they don't know whether the claim is true or false? I say you owe him the case of pmags if for no other reason than you basically called him out as being wrong with no proof.
You could call it a fools tax. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:08:50 PM EDT
[#32]
On one hand something like this is sort of like "I'd bet a month's salary on_____" obviously not to be taken seriously.
On the other hand, I somehow thought a case is 10 mags, which could be taken seriously. I'd say send the guy 5-10 mags and call it even. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:08:56 PM EDT
[#33]
The OP would be in the PIT if we had a PIT anymore.
He should pay up or be banned. Is this forum a joke to you? 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:09:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: walkinginadangerzone]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9over40: Wait a minute here. OPs title says arfcom will be the jury. Nothing said about aimless or subnet being the final resolve. He specifically asked us to decide with a poll. Now he’s crawfishing out of that request. OP is too impulsive and doesn’t follow what he says. He gets in trouble and wants to backslide. Go with the poll. I first said 5-10 magazines and it dawned on me.. he asked GD to decide his fate. We decided it and it’s 80-20 to pay up the case. Well, clearly the OP has a bad rep of promising things and failing to deliver. Clearly states in the title, "Arfcom is my jury!!!"
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:11:12 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: Strictly speaking, the other guy never actually agreed to the bet. If it was something like "Wanna bet a case of PMAGS?", and then he went "You're on!", and then you went "Alright, lets see it sucka!" and then he dropped that...you'd definitely owe him a case of PMAGS. Were it me (mostly because this is just how I roll) in your shoes, I'd offer to send him a couple. This 100% |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:13:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bladeswitcher]
[#36]
Originally Posted By 9over40: Wait a minute here. OPs title says arfcom will be the jury. Nothing said about aimless or subnet being the final resolve. He specifically asked us to decide with a poll. Now he’s crawfishing out of that request. OP is too impulsive and doesn’t follow what he says. He gets in trouble and wants to backslide. Go with the poll. I first said 5-10 magazines and it dawned on me.. he asked GD to decide his fate. We decided it and it’s 80-20 to pay up the case. +1 This thread appears to be a second example of the OP welching. First he offers a bet and then refuses to honor his own terms. Now he’s backing away from his statement that Arfcom would be his jury. I’m sensing a pattern here. Nobody forced him to offer a bet. Nobody made him offer to abide by the hive’s ruling. He did both of thise things by choice. After the first screw-up he could have simply said “I ain’t paying’” but no, he doubled down and sought our intervention to bail him out. He didn’t get it. I think he’s digging a deeper hole. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:13:29 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: On one hand something like this is sort of like "I'd bet a month's salary on_____" obviously not to be taken seriously. On the other hand, I somehow thought a case is 10 mags, which could be taken seriously. I'd say send the guy 5-10 mags and call it even. Eh, posting it without quoting anyone, I would think of it as a joke. But clearly quoting a member's post and posting "wanna bet on it?" I'd take it as a serious wager here. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:14:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shootindave: That is really only the easy question of the scenario. The real question, to affirm the contract, is what happens in that case when the dude fails to clear the jump on his bike? Does he owe or does he have recourse to say he never agreed to the terms prior to the jump? While you’re having fun introducing “what if’s” to the scenario, the bet was offered, then proof delivered. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:15:20 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Eh, posting it without quoting anyone, I would think of it as a joke. But clearly quoting a member's post and posting "wanna bet on it?" I'd take it as a serious wager here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: On one hand something like this is sort of like "I'd bet a month's salary on_____" obviously not to be taken seriously. On the other hand, I somehow thought a case is 10 mags, which could be taken seriously. I'd say send the guy 5-10 mags and call it even. Eh, posting it without quoting anyone, I would think of it as a joke. But clearly quoting a member's post and posting "wanna bet on it?" I'd take it as a serious wager here. Yeah. There's some gray area. I think 10 is an acceptable bargain personally. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:16:33 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRX7Project: So how much does a case of pmags cost nowadays? Around $1000. USD if you shop around. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:16:49 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sean124: This 100% As pointed out earlier in the thread, this is not how contract law works. An honorable person would pay up. And a gentleman would would agree to a lesser payout, even though they would be in the right to demand full payment. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:18:30 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bladeswitcher: +1 This thread appears to be a second example of the OP welching. First he offers a bet and then refuses to honor his own terms. Now he’s backing away from his statement that Arfcom would be his jury. I’m sensing a pattern here. Nobody forced him to offer a bet. Nobody made him offer to abide by the hive’s ruling. He did both of thise things by choice. After the first screw-up he could have simply said “I ain’t paying’” but no, he doubled down and sought our intervention to bail him out. He didn’t get it. I think he’s digging a deeper hole. This! I want to see a picture posted of BushBandit opening a case of PMAGs and smiling as happy as a possum eating a sweet potato pie. Christmas time for BB. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:20:15 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoFnNamesLeft: While you’re having fun introducing “what if’s” to the scenario, the bet was offered, then proof delivered. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoFnNamesLeft: Originally Posted By Shootindave: That is really only the easy question of the scenario. The real question, to affirm the contract, is what happens in that case when the dude fails to clear the jump on his bike? Does he owe or does he have recourse to say he never agreed to the terms prior to the jump? While you’re having fun introducing “what if’s” to the scenario, the bet was offered, then proof delivered. Was there proof he was on the bike when it crossed the ditch? Sometimes it is. For example: “I bet you a $100 you can’t jump that canal on a 125 dirt bike” (Kicks bike and full sends clear to the other side) Now.... who owes what? Reads to me like he kicked the bike across... 
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:21:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoFnNamesLeft: While you’re having fun introducing “what if’s” to the scenario, the bet was offered, then proof delivered. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoFnNamesLeft: Originally Posted By Shootindave: That is really only the easy question of the scenario. The real question, to affirm the contract, is what happens in that case when the dude fails to clear the jump on his bike? Does he owe or does he have recourse to say he never agreed to the terms prior to the jump? While you’re having fun introducing “what if’s” to the scenario, the bet was offered, then proof delivered. The proof was delivered by a third party three minutes prior to the video being posted with the "pay up" response. I am sure anyone would agree to a $1000 bet having been given the information to satisfy the bet without any effort. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:22:27 PM EDT
[#45]
Based on reading the thread, my stance is this:
If I was OP, I would have contacted the guy and offered to pay up 100%, but ask if 10 PMAGS would suffice, as it was an off-the-cuff comment, and 100 PMAGS is a lot of money. If he said "Nope. Pay up.", I would, as much as it would suck. If I was the bet winner, I would say "Just send me a PMAG, and call it a day." But my name is Paul, and that's between y'all. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:24:25 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taboot: Based on reading the thread, my stance is this: If I was OP, I would have contacted the guy and offered to pay up 100%, but ask if 10 PMAGS would suffice, as it was an off-the-cuff comment, and 100 PMAGS is a lot of money. If he said "Nope. Pay up.", I would, as much as it would suck. If I was the bet winner, I would say "Just send me a PMAG, and call it a day." But my name is Paul, and that's between y'all. Whoah whoah whoah... nobody asked you to come in here posting reasonable solutions... 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:25:38 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRX7Project: So how much does a case of pmags cost nowadays? Lucky for the OP, they're on sale for $850 https://magcommander.com/case-of-100-magpul-gen-m2-moe-black-pmag-30-round-223-5-56-ar-15-magazines/ Second cheapest if you don't trust that site or never dealt with them. https://www.armsunlimited.com/Magpul-PMAG-30-Round-GEN-M2-223-556-AR15-Magazine-p/mag571-case.htm |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:27:26 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Yeah. There's some gray area. I think 10 is an acceptable bargain personally. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: On one hand something like this is sort of like "I'd bet a month's salary on_____" obviously not to be taken seriously. On the other hand, I somehow thought a case is 10 mags, which could be taken seriously. I'd say send the guy 5-10 mags and call it even. Eh, posting it without quoting anyone, I would think of it as a joke. But clearly quoting a member's post and posting "wanna bet on it?" I'd take it as a serious wager here. Yeah. There's some gray area. I think 10 is an acceptable bargain personally. Considering how the OP went about it, I'd say Bushbandit should decide.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:28:58 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Drumbic: Poster you offered to bet should have formally accepted the bet, then provided his video proof. Other poster did not agree to bet terms. however, you are prooved wrong and said comedian DID in fact appear on MASH. Out of good faith on you losing, I sentence you to own other poster 10% of a case of PMAGS. ETA: Not a Judge. But you owe that man some PMAGS. This. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:29:56 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Considering how the OP went about it, I'd say Bushbandit should decide. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: On one hand something like this is sort of like "I'd bet a month's salary on_____" obviously not to be taken seriously. On the other hand, I somehow thought a case is 10 mags, which could be taken seriously. I'd say send the guy 5-10 mags and call it even. Eh, posting it without quoting anyone, I would think of it as a joke. But clearly quoting a member's post and posting "wanna bet on it?" I'd take it as a serious wager here. Yeah. There's some gray area. I think 10 is an acceptable bargain personally. Considering how the OP went about it, I'd say Bushbandit should decide. We were clearly made the jury here
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