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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:18:50 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In Pathfinder school at Campbell they hovered a little bird at 5-10' in front of us while in the field. That shit was pretty badass. Those 160th SOAR guys are literally magicians with their birds the things I've seen them do - even with big ass Chinooks. They can make them dance. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:19:42 PM EDT
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I went to a Nashville game a few years back, up in the nosebleeds, and I swear the helos were almost below me.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:20:36 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the issue? Some dipshit retired FAA guy said that the flight "could have been dangerous." |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:21:48 PM EDT
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Maybe they had some "communists" to "drop" off at the game...
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:22:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They were flying into the would-be rigging space of a skycam. I think that's going to raise some warranted questions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So the FAA is butthurt that the helicopter flew too low? You can see those cables in the shots from the ground, and you can see the helo's go safely over them. I'm sure the pilots they sent out before the event saw the cables and planned on how to avoid them. I'm sure the practice flight planned on how to not hit the cables, and didn't. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:22:20 PM EDT
[#6]
Lead pilot has a history and command staff are trying to drum something up to get rid of him.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:23:00 PM EDT
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About the only thing they will get fucked with over is if there was a TFR over that stadium which happens pretty regularly for professional sporting events. And if they violated that they may get spanked a little.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:23:17 PM EDT
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FAA doesn’t have have juris-my-diction over the Mil.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:23:31 PM EDT
[#9]
That’s the first time I’ve heard of Ft. Campbell, Tennessee.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:23:55 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryEven pilots can’t hold the phone correctly. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:24:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Full video showing both Apache and Chinooks  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky8toPGiR4Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky8toPGiR4I eta paste fail + apparently I cant get youtube links to show.  Awesome controversial flyover Titans vs Saints 11-14-21 Skycam cable appears at the 0:25 second mark. I would be curious to see pre-flight safety brief, but the cable should have been identified. If it was properly identified and avoided during the flight there was no risk from an FAA standpoint. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:25:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meanwhile, at NASCAR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioLqEL3mY7s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdSVejzS9k8ETA: That old ass FAA guy needs to shut the fuck up and stop wasting the Army's time. That unit has probably done dozens of flyovers of that stadium. Loved doing Fries and Spies 
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:25:54 PM EDT
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We were pushing up the Alishang Valley (AFG) in 2005 and we had just finished dropping rounds in support of Lima Co, 3rd Bn 3rd Marines, and were in a check fire for some AH-64's to egress out of the valley.
Our smallest Marine was taking a shit in a hole he dug, and one of those AH-64's came in low enough to push him into his shithole with the rotor wash. We laughed heartily, pilot gave us a thumbs up and he went on his merry way. Was a 10/10 experience. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:30:39 PM EDT
[#14]
This morning, there was a very low ceiling. We didn't know if it was going to happen until immediately before it did. I bet there was a few violations.
The sound on the field was deafening.  USNA Graduation Flyby 2006 |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:30:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lead pilot has a history and command staff are trying to drum something up to get rid of him. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:32:14 PM EDT
[#16]
Flew airshows for 10 summers
“Your can only tie the record for lowest fly by” That low if something breaks there are no options. Looks good, but stupid |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:33:51 PM EDT
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I was at a high school football game one night and immediately following the National Anthem two fighter jets came streaking, low over the stadium. I was in awe and as I stood there wondering how in the world our school game could rank so high, I heard the gentleman next to me remind his wife that UT - which is 30 miles away and also on the way back to Fort Hood - was also having a 7PM kickoff.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:36:27 PM EDT
[#18]
I'm failing to see a problem.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:36:47 PM EDT
[#19]
If they think that was dangerous, they wouldn't have wanted to have been on most of the flights we had back when I was stationed there.
I remember a couple of times they were flying so low I had to look up to see the tops of the trees. We were whooping and cheering and screaming at them to GO FASTER! Fucker looked back at us and grinned and went faster.  Those were some good times!
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:37:19 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So some army helo pilots flew the helos a little too low? You know, they're made to go low. They're not airplanes... It seems like BS to me, on the surface, but I'm not a pilot. Probably not supposed to do flyovers lower than the top of the stadium... lol 
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:38:50 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The issue is that they flew Apaches over the crowd.  Clearly having a weapon of war fly so low over a sporting event without each and every attendee being given advanced warning can be traumatizing. Someone needs to be held accountable.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:39:03 PM EDT
[#22]
Military doesn’t care what FAA thinks.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:41:20 PM EDT
[#23]
Oh ffs
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:44:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Should have done a barrel roll
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:46:35 PM EDT
[#25]
The problem is that an evil symbol of American imperialism, in the form of an attack helicopter with a culturally appropriated name, flew over and oppressed the millionaire POCs on the field.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:49:10 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FAA guy in the stands, didn't like what he saw so ratted them out. Nothing happened, "....but, but it COULD have...." FFS |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:51:14 PM EDT
[#27]
I am so pissed that they flew those things near people. That is dangerous!
Nobody needs Apache helicopters with 50 clip heat-seeking bullets and bazooka cannons. Think of the children! |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:51:47 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So the FAA is butthurt that the helicopter flew too low? I didn’t think the military had to answer to the FAA . |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:56:20 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The crux of the issue is Larry Williams is a little bitch. Everyone knows Army pilots are afraid of heights.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:57:28 PM EDT
[#30]
FNFL, FFAA, FBATFE, and FJB
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:58:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FAA guy in the stands, didn't like what he saw so ratted them out. Nothing happened, "....but, but it COULD have...." FFS FAA Karen |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:01:51 PM EDT
[#32]
We took three Talons and three gunships up to Campbell for a JRX, and those guys were flying little birds between the aircraft about five feet off the ground going a lot faster than seemed warranted. None of the safety people looked overly concerned...
We were tasked with providing them one of the Talons to practice folding the little bird's blades, loading/unloading and reconstitution. I let the crew chiefs go and told them I'd keep an eye on the aircraft and call them when we needed to button it back up. That was a mistake. Shit went on for hours and hours. After more than a dozen repetitions I asked one of the O's about it, and he said it was about building "muscle memory"...they were supposed to be able to do it in the dark, without NVGs. Thankfully they didn't test that capability. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:05:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 4 cables from the top of each corner of the stadium used to control and move the remote camera that is directly over the field and follows the play. BULLSHIT they didn't fly under the cables that control the camera. First, those cables move and are not in a fixed position. An aviator is not going to trust a camera operator to hold the camera in a fix position while they fly under. Also, those cables are NOT affixed to the very top of the four corners, but are affixed at a much lower position |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:10:13 PM EDT
[#34]
Maybe they should have used a B1 instead?
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:11:59 PM EDT
[#35]
Even if they are attached at the roof they’ll deflect substantially in the middle.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:16:10 PM EDT
[#36]
So the local news ruined future fly overs... Fuck them.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:16:22 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The crux of the issue is Larry Williams is a little bitch. Everyone knows Army pilots are afraid of heights. Quote HistoryQuoted: But Larry Williams, a retired aviation safety inspector with the FAA, told NewsChannel 5 that the incident could “have been a disaster.” “General reaction, yeah, it was unsafe,” Williams told the news outlet. “It was very dangerous.” The crux of the issue is Larry Williams is a little bitch. Everyone knows Army pilots are afraid of heights. Retired.'' Some grumpy old fvcks just aren't smart enough to wither away, dry out and die, they have to ruin it for everyone else. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:16:39 PM EDT
[#38]
https://home.army.mil/campbell/index.php Kentucky, sheeeeesh |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:22:00 PM EDT
[#39]
"A number of military helicopter pilots told Task & Purpose that they considered the flight to be safe, despite the dramatic nature of a low-altitude flyover. But Larry Williams, a retired aviation safety inspector with the FAA, told NewsChannel 5 that the incident could “have been a disaster.” I've been flying helicopters literally on and around powerlines for years, along with the entire utility industry, and this cuck wants to say something
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:22:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Wut?
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:25:58 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I once saw a couple of 160th Little Bird Pilots fly under a bridge in a major city. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:29:22 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the issue? |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:31:14 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the issue? Karen. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:31:22 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone continues to be outraged by anything of no consequence, while ignoring everything of importance that needs fixing.  Meanwhile.....crickets  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:32:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Watching the full video makes this even 'worse' . . . there was literally nothing fucking unsafe about that. Jesus tapdancing Christ - dude from the FAA needs to clutch his pearls about other things, like allowing Boeing to self certify 737 MAX jets that don't like to stay in the sky. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:32:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Not the first time the military and the FAA have butted heads over this.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:46:29 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That Chinook at the end, tho. Looked like it had to slam on the brakes to avoid running into the ass end of the Black Hawk.  First thing I noticed was the Shithook going "OH SHIT". Lead bird slowed as he banked. Then blackhawksaid!! "OK I'll Play Along." Shithook said "SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT!!!!!!!!!" Trailing apache said, "Wait for me Guys GUYYYSSS!!!! |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:51:48 PM EDT
[#48]
Looks like a Mass Gathering Disaster Fly-By Training Exercise to me.
Gotta stay sharp!  At least they weren't towing a "Let's Go Brandon" banner behind them. 
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:52:07 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meanwhile, at NASCAR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioLqEL3mY7s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdSVejzS9k8ETA: That old ass FAA guy needs to shut the fuck up and stop wasting the Army's time. That unit has probably done dozens of flyovers of that stadium. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:52:40 PM EDT
[#50]
I think the real question here is not why those helicopters were so low, but why the hell do they need to have cables that high? Bury cables not pilots! FNFL and FFAA
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