All the Mennonites have it and none of them seem to be dying

Yes, rheumatoid arthritis. My best friend's mom was using it until his lefty chiropractor younger sister convinced her to quit using it and now she does needling and some other alternative treatments.  Remember though, it's an antiparasitic (malaria is caused by Plasmodium species) so it's only effective against parasites.

Ex.
https://www.rheumatoidarthritis.org/treatment/hydroxychloroquine/
https://www.drugs.com/hydroxychloroquine.html

How was the Ivermectin administered may I ask?  I'm genuinely curious because I have heard enough anecdotal evidence, such as your post, to believe in it and I would buy some for my "just in case cabinet."  Was it a tube of paste, just like linked in the OP?

Simple.

THEY ARE FUCKING LYING TO US.

Placebo effect is real.

EXACTLY same could be said about the vaccine.

So after hearing about this horse paste I went to tractor supply and picked up a couple of tubes.  If I get rona, how much of this stuff do I take?  I’m about 195.

Wrong. The vaccine of course went through multiple trials and the results of the vaccine in reducing symptoms of the disease are well known due to the hundreds of millions of people who have received it.

The largest study on Ivermectin was withdrawn because apparently - it was a big con.

What about the millions of people across India, Mexico and other countries?

Well if the third-world is doing something it must be true

Billions, probably trillions of dollars were poured into Operation Warp Speed to develop vaccines. It was the greatest mobilization of resources and minds since the Manhattan Project.

Literal billions of people have received COVID-19 vaccinations. Thousands and thousands of peer-reviewed articles have been published in legitimate scientific journals.

And you really believe the research into using horse wormer for corona viruses is similar?  

See! There’s your proof!

My personal doctor refused to provide a script. She said it’s “too experimental and unknown.” She strongly encouraged the Pfizer shot.

I used a doc linked to by FLCCC and Amazon Pharmacy dispensed it.

For the record my cousin is an ER Physician is using it now and finding it to be very beneficial now.

The notion that "thousands and thousands" of peer-reviewed articles have been published shows a total and complete lack of any common sense whatsoever. There aren't "thousands and thousands" of peer-reviewed articles published every year in ANY field of scientific study. The peer-review process doesn't lend itself to that.

While it is true that billions have been poured into the vaccines, it most assuredly wasn't some great "mobilization of resources and minds". In one case, it was done by a pair of individuals in a week using techniques they had been conducting research on for years. The actual trials of all the vaccines are still on-going, btw, in case you missed that little tidbit of information.

There are numerous studies showing the effectiveness of Ivermectin as both a prophylaxis and as a treatment (but not as a miracle cure). Note also that the known side effects of Ivermectin are both far more well understood and are far lower than any of the current vaccines.

Bottom line is unless you understand what has gone on in the last year and a half, it's best simply to remain silent.

Attached File

No motivation or bias here. None at all.

Go here for specific information on Invermectin dosing rates. It is not a horse past or medicine, its a human medicine they are giving to horses. Its also being used to destroy the longhaul side effects of the china flu and is used by the smaller hospitals here in Texas.

India is suing WHO and hopefully the DNC/US media soon over their lies of Ivermectin.  They now have large case studies on its effectiveness and ability to destroy the china flu.

@Golden-Arm

Interesting, but looks expensive.

At 461mcg per ml, you would have to consume about 38ml of one of those 55ml bottles ($25), costing around $17 to get the same dose that you get from 1/6 of a tube of paste ($5.99), costing about $1 ?

I guess it's fine if you prefer that over the paste and you don't mind spending 17x for the same thing.

When listening to Dr Lawrie who is the WHO’s expert meta analyst she showed that even removing that study doesn’t change the fact that Ivermectin has been proven to be beneficial as both prophylaxis and treatment.

It must suck balls to be wrong ALL the time.  

If the vax was apple flavored, I might reconsider.

Agreed.

The part that many here cannot understand is that yes billions have been poured into these vaccines. Maybe thousands of studies were shown.

But one thing that the billions cannot do - is impact time. NONE of the vaccines will be through phase III clinical trials until October 2022 and 2023. And phase III includes only a few hundred participants (most people have zero clue oh how few people are in the Moderna and Pfizer trials).

If they pass that (somewhere between 30-50% of meds will make it out of this phase) they usually go to Phase IV where thousands of participants join. Then the FDA reviews and then they do additional monitoring. Usually it takes almost 10-12 years to even get approvals.

Yeah yeah yeah mrna has been studied for decades and yet there is not ONE approved mrna therapeutic on the market that has been injected in millions. Most of the mrna drugs were being examined for tumors, cancers, heart issues, etc. aka terminal shit. I would be more apt to be a participant in those trials if that was my hope because I had a terminal illness.

People who  scoff at  the horse paste or ivermectin versus taking the vaccine here is how I look at it.

1) I can take ivermectin something that has been used in billions of doses over 40+ years. If it doesn’t work? I stop taking it. It leaves my system. Chances of any kind of adverse side effects are almost nill.

2) I can take an mrna vaccine that has only EUA, for a disease that I apparently had and never knew that I had it (I had antibodies for
Months) that has no long term data and has never been used with any commercial
Product on this scale. If something goes wrong I can’t undo it.

I have family history of stroke, blood clots - my grandmother was constantly on blood thinners to break up clots and had multiple strokes. I’m not going to inject something that I have a slight chance to have that adverse effect. My ER physician cousin thinks that is a valid concern and felt when my primary care physician said risk of blood clots
Or stroke with the mrna vaccines was negligible that it was irresponsible and almost unethical.

If I could attach photos easily I would share a woman in Houston who is my age. She finally decided to get the vaccine on July 23rd with her husband. They went to CVS and got their first shot of Pfizer. Her husband on July 25th announced on FB she died. She was a mom and wife. Her funeral is this week. Nah I am not willing to risk that (or any of the other serious side effects) for COVID.

So I have my script for ivermectin. I have read enough of the small studies (no one is going to pay for large scale double blind studies on ivermectin a drug that will not profit anyone) and reviewing data from Mexico, India and now even fro my cousin’s experience as well as doctors who are looking at the FLCCC’s guidelines, to feel that it is a reasonable solution.

And if I am forced to get a vaccine? It still won’t be Pfizer or Moderna. I will drag my heels and get J&J and take aspirin but I will need significantly  more years of data on mrna results to feel comfortable with it.  

I am not anti vax. I took my mother to get Pfizer. She is handicapped, old and in poor health. Her long term is different than my long term and COVID would most likely for sure kill her.

My kids have been very sick for the last 2 weeks, I finally got whatever they had on Thursday, as an experiment I took a dose of Ivermectin on Friday. Today I'm feeling fine. Ymmv. Also I didn't poop out a bunch of dead worms... bonus. Fwiw I normally end up with pneumonia any time I get an upper respiratory infection, I've never recovered this fast. could be a coincidence, but I think it's not.

Cross strain susceptibility is a known issue with flu vaccines. And all the old attempts at a covid vaccine had issues with vaccinated animals and children dying after being exposed to the live virus. I doubt that problem is magically fixed. Ymmv.

For the nay-sayers who want to ridicule the more common uses of ivermectin, and for that matter HCQ, it might be worth considering how they came to be covid treatments.

Very early in the pandemic some (IMO heroic) researchers tested thousands of existing medications against sarscov2 in tissue samples and identified both as being effective in the petri dish. Since they were existing, known, safe and inexpensive medications people responded to the scientific papers. Meanwhile to political establishment was pushing remdesivir, an experimental medication who's effectiveness was entirely speculative and has subsequently been shown to be ineffective.

One of these has been used safely for decades by billions of humans, the other has not.

I figure worst case is at least you know you don't have worms. As for myself, I was feeling better almost overnight.

gd: prove it wasnt eating the shit!!!! the real statistics about shit eating curing covid and suppressed by commies in the new world order!!!! /gd

Smoking is apparently a higher risk factor.

Your link doesn't work

As someone who actually publishes shit in journals I get thousands upon hundreds of thousands to do research.


Guess what?  I see none of that. And most likely the people doing the research and development saw none of that as well. The company probably saw less than 10 million in total from any research. That money is for cool and expensive equipment and methods.

I'm familiar with RETCON in comic books, I never though I'd see it in science/medicine. Now Ivermectin is being claimed to be dangerous by the people pushing the shot.

Trazadone is an anti-depressant.  It also happens to make people sleepy and is prescribed for insomnia.

Aspirin is a pain reliever.  It’s also prescribed as a preventative for heart attack.  

Is it possible ivermectin can be effective for other things besides just parasites?

@Hans_Landa Try these...

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

You'd be first in line for bloodletting since the doctors of the day recommended it.

Study after study shows ivermectin is effective.  And not just in a test tube as implied by another poster.  Don't you trust the science?  

Too bad most people in the United States don't have access to it from their doctor.  One would have to go to a country with a more functional society such as India or Mexico to find a doctor with enough free speech to be able to say they're using it and have found it effective.

Jim Jones prefers Flav-O-Aid

How quickly people forget the real reason for the COVID-19, there in another election coming up in a little over a year.  Does anybody doubt it will be used to steal the 2022 elections too?

Two things I've noticed in reading drug trials and pill books.

1. It's shocking how often sugar pills help 50% of the time, yet the actual drug being tested works only 55% of the time.

2. Most meds have an unknown mechanism of action.

Are these the same journals that say climate change is a threat?

What was her name?

Typhoid Mary?

Good lord how did I miss this thread? lol.

1.) HCQ has been thoroughly debunked. Massive, highly rigorous trials were conducted, including WHO SOLIDARITY. HCQ doesn't help period. There is even a recent meta-analysis that is showing HCQ actually made things worse. I've heard estimated that 100K people died b/c of HCQ... just like doctors figured out that putting people on ventilators is bad.  Even FLCCC has totally dropped HCQ and switched to IVM... let's just put HCQ to bed. It's a great drug for what it's good for, but it doesn't help against CV19.

2.) IVM is up for debate. There are definitely people on both sides. I for one HOPE TO GOD that it actually works against CV19. That said, I'm dubious. There are are only small or low quality studies that shows promise. The largest study was shown to have faked patient data and was withdrawn. There is one meta-analysis from a pro-ivm group in the UK, and another from a group of anonymous people (ivmmeta or whatever).

Here is the problem... suddenly with CV19 regular, everyday people are getting all this medical information and studies shoved in their face... and guess what? Most of them have no real idea how to process and analyze all this in a rational way... it's messed up and I sympathize.

IVM really, really sounds a lot like what HCQ was in the beginning... some promise, but no real studies... the good news is that there are several (5) high-quality Randomized Controlled Trials going on for IVM right now... probably within the next month or two we will have a final answer.

3.) In the mean time, if you absolutely have to have IVM... don't go get horse paste. I hate even saying this, but just call your local pharmacy and ask them what doctors are write scripts for IVM right now.... trust me... THEY KNOW.  Be really, really nice, and tell them you are really, really worried and are about to buy horse paste. They can probably point you in the direction of the the local quack.

hmmm....

74% infected in recent outbreak were fully vaccinated

My sister is morbidly obese with other comorbidities.  She had the rona two months ago and ended up in the ER.  Her personal doctor gave her ivermectin and she was 80% better in 2 days and symptom free in a little under 4 days.