Physicians are a credible source? Actual physicians also support the jab. FFS..

The vaccines work. Ish. However, they appear to work less well-ish for the new variant. Most of the decent studies (and there's a shitload of bad ones) seem to indicate good efficacy for Ivermectin with far fewer potential side effects than the vax(es). So, self-medicating early with Ivermectin with follow-up with a competent physician would seem to be a reasonable course of action. Perhaps a better course of action would be to have your friendly doctor prescribe Ivermectin to have in case of known exposure.

“Hydroxychloroquine was approved for medical use in the United States in 1955. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines. In 2018, it was the 129th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than 5 million prescriptions.”

Yeah, that shit sounds totally untested!

They have been using it for years for RA and malaria prophylaxis. It is safe and approved. Sure, data isn’t there for COVID but while it may not be helpful the drug itself is safe.

Sounds kind of like ivermectin

“Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and came into medical use in 1981. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines. Ivermectin is FDA-approved as an antiparasitic agent. In 2018, it was the 420th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than one hundred thousand prescriptions.”

Yeah, sounds like some dangerous scary shit.

Excuse me sir, your financial self-interest is showing.

But that's different..

As I've mentioned before, a high percentage, maybe even a majority, of the studies I've read since the beginning of this ChinaIsAsshoe virus saga are garbage. My conclusion is that HCQ is somewhat effective if administered early and with zinc but Ivermectin appears to have much better efficacy. But, as with most things in medicine, stuff doesn't work the same for everybody.

I am listening to medical experts. Funny how they are trying to be silenced.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5UHDpnt6ZYrp/

https://www.merck.com/stories/mectizan/
But it's terrible here.

River blindness is caused by a parasite….ivermectin is an antiparasite drug….is covid a parasite?

No, but you will surely die if you take it.

First time I've heard the Yale School of Public Health called "dodgy" but OK.

American Journal of Epidemiology article:
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/189/11/1218/5847586
Click on the pdf icon for the nine page study recommending HCQ and azithromycin- this was published in May of 2020 when doctors were still trying to figure out what might work.  Obviously protocols have been updated since then.

No.
Some people think biochemistry doesn't be like it is, but it do

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I was Leary of the horse paste Ivermectin. I bought some just in case. Never know. I have the EVMS protocol stuff in stock as well.

Testing Testing are the self appointed censors of the net working tonight to quash the first amendment. We can not talk about rona on the comm channels.

And Viagra was developed for heart issues initially. It’s almost like some drugs have multiple uses.

Serious question- are you being intentional obtuse or just retarded?  Disregard, just noticed 13er.  If you'd bothered to read any of the multiple threads or do even a cursory google search you would know than many drugs are brought to market labeled as being approved for the treatment of one malady but are often used off-label for the treatment of sometimes many other ailments.  That doesn't mean they don't work, only that they haven't gone through full drug trials or possibly haven't completed them including submission and approval by the FDA.  There are many drugs that we still don't understand- I've already noted that both aspirin and acetaminophen (Tylenol) have been in common usage for well over 100 years at this point and researchers still don't fully understand how they work- and both are used for more than just pain relief.   Bonus- sildenafil (Viagra) was originally being studied as a medication for high blood pressure but as everyone knows, ended up being sold as an erectile dysfunction medication.  At this time it's also being used to treat high-altitude cerebral edema (HACE), high-altitude pulmonary edema (HAPE) and heart attacks in some areas.

That's not to say that ivermectin works on covid, only that there are enough positive reports from physicians and researchers around the world to indicate that clinical trials would be worthwhile.  I've already noted that even before covid it was been being studied in the treatment of certain forms of cancer and several other diseases as well including possibly preventing transmission of HIV through breast milk.  

Just because something doesn't meet your narrow minded and uneducated viewpoint doesn't mean it isn't true- it may or may not be, but suppressing the research that would prove or disprove it doesn't help anyone.  

For COVID? It's untested and really only promoted by fringe sites.

In the US largely yes, the MSM and politicians are actively working to suppress anything that goes against the popular narrative (whatever fauchi decides this week) but look outside the US and other countries are actively using and promoting it with many of them begging the US to do the clinical trials which they can't afford to do in their own countries.  They want legitimate trials that would help them save their patients for less money.  There are US doctors who will prescribe it though.  If you want a much more accurate picture of what's actually going on in the world you need to be watching multiple news sources; US new sources are some of the least reliable in the world.

That's the problem with it.  A clinical trial would be worthwhile to the general public, but not for the people that would pay for it.  It is cheap enough that they can give away 4 billion treatments.  I'm guessing 8+ billion doses.  Who is going to pay for a clinical trial?  The government that takes money from big pharma?  Big pharma that can sell more expensive treatments?

Dodgy websites are more trustworthy than the government.

Mod badge mania…

Just edit his damn post and move on.

Pro tip, Apple tastes like ass, stick to the plain.

@dirtyboy

You tried it then?

My wife is a pulmonology NP, so of course they deal specifically with lots of covid stuff.  None of us are vaccinated.  I came down positive on the 16th, followed by wife and our two youngest (7 and 9) by the 18th.  My parents and her mom came down positive within a few days of that.  Likely vector was the birthday party we had for our youngest the week prior.

My wife's primary collaborating Dr is very establishment, pro vaccine, anti anything else, "if you don't get the vaccine you deserve what you get" kind of guy.  He's a pulmonologist in the local hospital system as well as one of the managing Dr's for the ICU.  Still, he let my wife prescribe ivermectin to one of her patients the week before we all became sick, which surprised me.  

When we became sick my wife contacted two of her prior collaborating Dr's (with another organization).  They are both rural providers at the area "low income health system", both pro-Ivermectin though to varying degrees.  The 1st Dr gave my wife dosing guidelines so she could have scripts called in for our family.  He is very pro-ivermectin, and said it kept one of his patients from having to be admitted (rapid turnaround after dosing).  So all of the adults in our family (me, wife, my parents, her mom) got ivermectin, Zpak and prednizone scripts.  My mom also got the antibody injection.  

The 2nd Dr she used to work (same organization, with a high patient population consisting of low-income) with told her he's been instructing his too-poor-for-rx patients to go to the local farm supply store, get the tube/paste of ivermectin only (not the mixes), and administer per label instructions.  He said the $10 tube will treat two people.  He also spoke highly of the results he's seen with it.  

How did we react?  Well, my wife, myself, my mom and dad all received ivermectin / prednizone / zpack scripts within a couple days of testing positive.  That pretty much ended the fevers non-breathing symptoms.  Pre meds my 02 had dropped to the 88-91 range (from normal of 99) and heartrate was hanging out just over 100.  Post meds my 02 levels went up to 94/95 and heartrate dropped to 50's/60's.  Fevers ended, the "bad" flu like symptoms ended, etc.

However I'm now 2+ weeks in and still feel light headed, my 02 levels are still in the 92-95 range, I'm super low on energy and stamina, etc.  I feel like I have a light alcohol buzz, almost.  I've spoken with several co-workers (first day back at work was Friday) who all describe the same thing.  They call it the "covid fog".  Loss of focus, light headed feeling, forgetting where they are going in the car, etc.  Some of them are now months out from their positive tests.

The wife is torn.  Being a medical provider she is obviously feeling a TON of pressure to get the vaccine.  In her opinion the primary benefit of the vaccine is "reduced severity of symptoms if you catch COVID".  It doesn't seem to prevent transmission, doesn't prevent catching it, however her first hand experience is that "vaccinated people don't get hit as hard".  However, it would seem our ivermectin/zpak/prednisone scripts did largely the same thing, WITHOUT the unknown issues of the vaccines.

Liberals in America all want you to do want they want you to do.  And don't do what they don't want you to do.

Plus 27

Posted to illicit a negative response, about a family member no less.

This is a troll who should be handled by staff or mods.  He has been a troll since day one of this process.  Why is he allowed to continue with this bullshit?

@rodent

@motoguy

That is an excellent report. Glad you’re feeling somewhat better. Have you considered taking another dose of ivermectin?

I have taken the plain one.
It tastes like plain jello with no flavor.
Ever eat marrow from boiled bones?

IIRC a member here said they believed it helped with their longhaul COVID effects

+2 on another dose of ivermectin.

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I suspect 99% of people who take ivermectin recover from COVID, and that in those who don't take it 99.5% recover.

I mean, they’re kind of both cults…

Finally got here.  Thanks.  

Amazing how somebody can write something from their experience without having to belittle everyone else.  Nice job.

i've used the J R ENTERPRISES ivermectin for years, to protect my dogs from heartworms.  it's shipped in small bottles (55 ml. blend of .05% ivermecti)  in liquid form, suspended in food grade propylene glycol. the website also shows a dosing chart, for weight based measurements, and their products ship with a marked syringe, for easy measuring. why eat horse paste when you can add an appropriate amount of liquid into a drink?

What are you basing this belief on? What evidence is there that it's true other than that he ate horse wormer and lived?

"It's working! I feel....retarded."

What makes you think a doctor wouldn't write you a script for it?

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That's practically peer-reviewed science published in a reputable journal.

There's at least one HIGHLY respected doctor on this site who has been hip deep in the Rona since the outset that says otherwise.

And doctors used to think leeching was a good practice. Also I remember them telling us steroids did nothing for strength in the 80s when we knew they were full of shit. How about smoking being good for us, thalidomine as a treatment, and recently the vioxx scandal where they killed 60,000 people and paid out a settlement.  The medical community doesn't always get it right, especially when big pharma is paying the bills and financial incentives are involved. Now let's add a layer of politicizing to it and see how fast they can run it off the rails. While we're at it, maybe silence any opposing viewpoints and not debate the matter. Also, let's remove all accountability for the vaccine producers and push the shit out of it. Sounds legit.

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Humm! Do I trust the data from 4.1 billion vaccine shots or the antidotal heresy of some guy 12 conversations down the gossip chain?  You may remotely be right but the odds are not in your favor.

He didn't eat horse wormer. He was given Ivermectin while in the ICU, after all other treatments had failed to improve his condition. He was about to either be intubated or die.

How is it the CDC misleads and lies to the American people? Let's start with their mishandling of Anthrax samples. How about IG investigations of failure to follow their own protocols causing serious Level 4 Lab compromises. They are not perfect but still they have no business playing politics with our lives. That isn't their job.

Oh look....more ignorance

RA? You mean rheumatoid arthritis? I have mild RA in elbows and have pretty much got it under control, but I want to ask my Dr about this. Already turned down the methotrexate - that shit is bad for ya.