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Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:01:39 PM EDT
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Did they also have stats on who was shooting all those black men and boys ages 15-34?

I wonder how that breaks down?
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Inquiring minds want to know...
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:05:22 PM EDT
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It must be my White Previlage that prevents me from seeing all the KKK'er in their Robes driving around the Projects & Hoods in their Pick up trucks with Rebel & Trump flags flying shooting all those innocent little school children hanging out on the street corners at all nights.  

They must be working on Boy Scout badges for helpfulness, because cars pull up to them all the time all night long, and those young boys lean in and evidently give those drivers directions to get them home safely because they pull away soon after.

Little Angels!!
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:09:29 PM EDT
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I was told its racist to point this out.
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I was told its racist to point this out.

It's not racist to use stats to show blacks as victims, when convenient.  ETA: This information warfare / psychological warfare technique is used to pit whites and blacks against each other.  Our Ruling Class Decision Makers' favorite strategy is Divide and Rule.

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Did they also have stats on who was shooting all those black men and boys ages 15-34?

I wonder how that breaks down?

That's when stats become racist.

Since this article doesn't touch on that subject, the unspoken assumption is that blacks are being massacred by white, racist, KKK, MAGA hat-wearing, proud boys, conservatives, vigilantes and cops.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:11:23 PM EDT
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Have you ever listened to their music? It's full of glorifying killing.
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You gonna bring up video games next?
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:18:51 PM EDT
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We all know that race is a social construct.

The Irish immigrants used to be considered "black" where 13% of this part of the American population committed 90% of the violent crimes.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:20:51 PM EDT
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Lazy reporting.
No stats on shooters, who are the shooters that kill other minorities and others.
The same 2%?  Since they are afraid to report it, it can only be assumed.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:22:12 PM EDT
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I think suicide tends to raise the death toll.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:23:39 PM EDT
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They actually printed that?!
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:23:58 PM EDT
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They actually printed that?!
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:25:37 PM EDT
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this is so racist!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:25:47 PM EDT
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Lazy reporting.
No stats on shooters, who are the shooters that kill other minorities and others.
The same 2%?  Since they are afraid to report it, it can only be assumed.
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It's not laziness, they're following their religions doctrine of holding their protected class completely blameless for their choices.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:32:27 PM EDT
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Same old bullshit, the media lies and obscures the truth to fit their agenda. They won't stop until our country is a socialist hellhole.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 2:35:50 PM EDT
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Liberal judges give the violent thugs a slap on the wrist and release them over and over again for one reason. To provide the statistics to bolster their rabid anti gun argument. If they had to rely on white people for these damning stats they would end up with gun crime stats like Scandinavian countries.

They don't call it the Criminal Justice System for nothin.

Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:06:04 PM EDT
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You gonna bring up video games next?
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Have you ever listened to their music? It's full of glorifying killing.


You gonna bring up video games next?


@Steamedliver

You are missing the point. It is not like video games.

Their music comes from their culture. It's not a cause, it's a symptom of how they do not value life.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:14:27 PM EDT
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I’m not misunderstanding anything.    

I listen to 80s rock and my life is absolutely nothing like Motley Crue has described it.  I wish though.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:15:10 PM EDT
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Did they also have stats on who was shooting all those black men and boys ages 15-34?

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THIS.....is the only stat that really matters if you're TRUELY looking to resolve the issue.....
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:15:58 PM EDT
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The 1350 project.
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I see what you meant there.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:23:38 PM EDT
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Lol I know.

Well over 90% of the perps were black too. Don't talk about that.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:26:54 PM EDT
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And meanwhile in Chicago......
Over 95% of the murder victims are either Black Or Hispanic. Less than 4% are white / other, Which I assume includes Indians ,SouthAsians , orientals Etc

Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:29:52 PM EDT
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I was told its racist to point this out.
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I have found that people are most offended by the truth.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:31:53 PM EDT
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Here is the really racist part, look up who is pulling all those triggers!

Hint, it ain't white people!
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Well 1 in a hundred are in Chicago

.2020 Race of Victim/Assailant
RaceVictimAssailant
Black 627.    67
Hispanic 1319
White/Other325
Police-        7
Self Defense-      11

Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:33:59 PM EDT
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"That should include really viewing gun violence as a public health issue. The business of public health is population wellness – looking at how we can decrease the disease burden or the threat of injury to the population at large," he said. "And gun violence is definitely a problem that should be looked at through that lens."
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It's an illogical lens.  That's like saying that since the majority (vast majority) of driving accidents are caused by yutes under the age of 25, and the two major contributors are alcohol and texting...we should use that "lens" to curb such a far more serious vector of mortality rates.  We should restrict all smart phone usage, raise the alcohol limit to age 26 and require a three day background check on all auto, phone, and automobile sales...that crisis is a public health crisis and solutions should be population wellness oriented.    

The sad irony is that the current generations always brining up slavery are shooting themselves back into slavery...and the people they ignorantly vote for are more than happy to provide the data and the chains.

This is all a very ingenious mis/dis-information campaign.  A survey went out that has somehow been leaked as "fact" is the type of propaganda that is used.  The survey basically asked "how many blacks are killed by cops every year"?  The majority of the answers were over a 1000.  Last you it was 27; tragic, but only about 40 times less than what the sheep believed...yet there was never follow up to correct those public perceptions and those perceptions now become media-data to spew as reality.  Sickening.

ROCK6
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:36:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:41:07 PM EDT
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Great question, as the conviction rate of the shooters is less than 10%, we will never know!
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:43:02 PM EDT
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Interesting. Very interesting.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 3:57:42 PM EDT
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If gun control is needed because 2% of the population misuses guns, then religion control would be indicated because 2% of religious zealots committed terrorist acts, and eating control because 2% of the people who own spoons over eat and become obese.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 4:03:27 PM EDT
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"Evidence suggests gun homicides rose "dramatically" last year during the pandemic,"

The pandemic, eh?  I wonder if there was anything else going on at that time.
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The re-release of "New Jack City?"  

Link Posted: 2/25/2021 4:07:29 PM EDT
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So those with the lowest social status in society commit the most homicides/crimes... and water is wet, the sky is blue.

This holds true across all societies and all countries.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 4:30:01 PM EDT
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They're going to find that the same thing happened in 2020.
But wait, how could that be true, especially during a pandemic?
They were supposed to stay home like everybody else last year.  
Tens of thousands didn't listen.  
Thousands around the country looted, firebombed and protested.
They were told to stay home because of covid, but shootings, killings, car jackings, etc. went up in places like Chicago.
How could that be if they were quarantining at home?
And they wonder why covid is so bad in the some of the black communities.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:02:39 PM EDT
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USA Today - Young Black Men "teens" make up more than a third of 2019 gun homicides


Young Black men and teens made up more than a third of firearm homicide victims in the USA in 2019, one of several disparities revealed in a review of gun mortality data released Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The analysis, titled "A Public Health Crisis in the Making," found that although Black men and boys ages 15 to 34 make up just 2% of the nation's population, they were among 37% of gun homicides that year.

That's 20 times higher than white males of the same age group.

Of all reported firearm homicides in 2019, more than half of victims were Black men, according to the study spearheaded by the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. Sixty-three percent of male victims were Black.

The contrast is even more stark when the rates were compared with white people: Across all ages, Black men were nearly 14 times more likely to die in a firearm homicide than white men, and eight times more likely to die in a firearm homicide than the general population, including women.

"That should include really viewing gun violence as a public health issue. The business of public health is population wellness – looking at how we can decrease the disease burden or the threat of injury to the population at large," he said. "And gun violence is definitely a problem that should be looked at through that lens."

So Democrats want to take way the guns of 50 year old white males ...
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Interesting. According to the FBI 2019 data, blacks were not the largest homicide group at 7,484,- that falls to "not Hispanic or Latino" at 8,881. Love ambiguous terms.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-1.xls

They also forgot this thing called real numbers - for murder victims under 18 by race in 2019, white - 473, black - 610.  In a nation of 330 MILLION that doesn't qualify as a drop in a bucket. Not to belittle the loss the families feel, but statistically, relatively insignificant. Yes, the RATES between the age groups is wide...but the actual NUMBERS are not.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-2.xls

They don't want you looking at real numbers, like the number of people killed by firearms, because then you see how few murders were actually committed with rifles and how many with hands and feet...

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

But using age, OK, total number of people under the age of 18, (1,146 of 13,927), murdered with a firearm was 669, but 167 were beaten to death.  The VAST majority was over 18, 9,950.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-9.xls

More smoke and mirrors.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:04:47 PM EDT
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There some serious issues within the black community but it’s racist of me to call them out
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:05:29 PM EDT
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Lol, it is the exact same statistic for who the killers of these blacks boys are.
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In 2019 whites killed 2,594 whites and 566 Black or African-American.
In 2019 blacks killed 2,574 black or African-Americans and 246 whites.

Just to prove your point.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:08:16 PM EDT
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So......are they going to outlaw young black men and teens ?
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:09:08 PM EDT
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this is actually great news to shine a spotlight on..

maybe it can be pointed out that our rights are solid and not the issue, but it's actually a miniscule tranny sized population in this country that is accounting for a vast percentage of the "gun violence"... I really think this helps the cause and can be turned back around on these lefty poofters.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:09:19 PM EDT
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Did they also have stats on who was shooting all those black men and boys ages 15-34?

I wonder how that breaks down?


Inquiring minds want to know...

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:11:11 PM EDT
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Huh, that’s a very creative way to try and reframe that statistic. Irony. What would be more useful than who was killed, was who killed them. I don’t know why that isn’t in the article.
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yeah but I don't think that's even in question... even with the dumbest lefties out there... everyone knows who pulls the trigger.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:11:53 PM EDT
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Not rayciss to point out who's getting shot. Only rayciss if you start looking at who does most of the shooting.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:13:38 PM EDT
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So, exactly WHO is committing these homicides?  Why not target them instead of ALL gun owners?
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:16:21 PM EDT
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The 1350 means that 13% of the population (blacks) commit 50% of the violent crimes.
I have heard that this is according to the FBI crime statistics.
But if true these numbers are misleading because they include all blacks, men, women, children, and old people.
The true numbers are 50% of the violent crimes are committed by just 6% of the population and that would be black males not currently incarcerated between the ages of 14 - 44.
Candace Owens blames this on the lack of a 2 parent household leading to the young boys using thugs and rappers as roll models.
She states this is the result of democrat policies.

ETA: OWENS For President 2024
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:17:53 PM EDT
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they know it's not needed, they just want to be able to consolidate their tyranny without any opposition.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:19:47 PM EDT
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I live a pretty busy life between work and more work.   Never home.   Don't even have cable or internet or wifi or anything at my house.

Go over to Moms from time to time and she has this thing called Netflix.   I scroll thru and stumble into a WWll program of Nazi's/Police killing Jews and shooting everybody in the back of the head into ditches.

Yeah, I'm not getting shot in the back of the head like that and rolling down into a ditch.    Therefore, I'm not giving up shit.    Fuck all of those fucks.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:19:47 PM EDT
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@Steamedliver

You are missing the point. It is not like video games.

Their music comes from their culture. It's not a cause, it's a symptom of how they do not value life.
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Have you ever listened to their music? It's full of glorifying killing.


You gonna bring up video games next?


@Steamedliver

You are missing the point. It is not like video games.

Their music comes from their culture. It's not a cause, it's a symptom of how they do not value life.

It is both cause and symptom.

You can't expose a child to constant glorification  of shit values, making them seem attractive, and then not expect the child to think that those values are ideals to aspire to. The entire culture is about constant bombardment glorifying shit values.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:22:14 PM EDT
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The vast and overwhelming majority of the law-abiding gun owners in the United States are white.
The vast and overwhelming majority of the violent criminals in the United States are black and Hispanic/Latino.
The liberal solution to curbing the violence perpetrated overwhelmingly by black and Hispanic/Latino criminals,
is to pass gun control laws that will make it harder for law-abiding white people to own/carry guns.

Make no sense? Well, it does if you take into account the phenomenon of "disparate impact."
Disparate impact is the idea that if a law or policy impacts disproportionately upon minorities, this is proof that the law or policy is racist in nature.
And of course, good little liberals can't support racist things, right?
However, since most violent crime is committed by minorities, any strategy used to combat it would, as a matter of common sense, target minorities disproportionately.
Well, that just doesn't work for our liberal friends. This is why they oppose just about any crime fighting strategy that... you know... actually fights crime.
So, this is why gun control is so big for libs. Gun control targets *everyone.* No one is singled out, and no one gets their sensibilities offended.
Of course, gun control doesn't really do anything to reduce violence. However, liberals can support it without fear of being branded "racist."
And really, that's all that's important to them.
Anyway, all that crime happens in the bad neighborhoods, where liberals don't live.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:23:59 PM EDT
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The only one I'm killing is myself and that's with a fork and spoon not a gun.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:24:01 PM EDT
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USA Today - Young Black Men "teens" make up more than a third of 2019 gun homicides


Young Black men and teens made up more than a third of firearm homicide victims in the USA in 2019, one of several disparities revealed in a review of gun mortality data released Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The analysis, titled "A Public Health Crisis in the Making," found that although Black men and boys ages 15 to 34 make up just 2% of the nation's population, they were among 37% of gun homicides that year.

That's 20 times higher than white males of the same age group.

Of all reported firearm homicides in 2019, more than half of victims were Black men, according to the study spearheaded by the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. Sixty-three percent of male victims were Black.

The contrast is even more stark when the rates were compared with white people: Across all ages, Black men were nearly 14 times more likely to die in a firearm homicide than white men, and eight times more likely to die in a firearm homicide than the general population, including women.

"That should include really viewing gun violence as a public health issue. The business of public health is population wellness – looking at how we can decrease the disease burden or the threat of injury to the population at large," he said. "And gun violence is definitely a problem that should be looked at through that lens."

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Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:29:20 PM EDT
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Science would state that you should ban gun possession from that population group, whoever they may be...  
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:31:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:33:21 PM EDT
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this is actually great news to shine a spotlight on..

maybe it can be pointed out that our rights are solid and not the issue, but it's actually a miniscule tranny sized population in this country that is accounting for a vast percentage of the "gun violence"... I really think this helps the cause and can be turned back around on these lefty poofters.
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I always thought that was a good approach to this issue, a small demographic responsible for a majority of a crime statistics.  You have to remember you're dealing with liberals so the " Mamet Principle " is in effect, ie. they will purposely pretend to NOT know or understand facts or figures that prove a contrarian opinion, they are that tone deaf.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:33:53 PM EDT
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Their little study has nothing to do with me, my guns, or my constitutional RKBA.
Link Posted: 2/25/2021 6:34:43 PM EDT
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Seems like the 2% are the problem.
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