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Posted: 2/24/2021 7:05:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump/Russia What this is telling you is that Trump having had access AND an opportunity to declassify it (and didn't) knows the truth. This is an effort to get out ahead of that leak in much the same way that the most recent "peach mints" were an effort to get his security clearance. The fucking CIA killed Kennedy because he threatened to disband them. The CIA would have and likely still will kill Trump to keep their secrets. People however still rally around the flag and give reverence to the military who have been doing the Deep states bidding for almost a century under the guise of "protecting democracy" around the world. No, they are simply low payed, unsuspecting and gullible tools of a viciously corrupt government. Do you really think the CIA hands over any real information of substance concerning controversial issues to any president? The president can ask for any info he wants but the gatekeepers decide what he sees. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 7:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump/Russia What this is telling you is that Trump having had access AND an opportunity to declassify it (and didn't) knows the truth. This is an effort to get out ahead of that leak in much the same way that the most recent "peach mints" were an effort to get his security clearance. The fucking CIA killed Kennedy because he threatened to disband them. The CIA would have and likely still will kill Trump to keep their secrets. People however still rally around the flag and give reverence to the military who have been doing the Deep states bidding for almost a century under the guise of "protecting democracy" around the world. No, they are simply low payed, unsuspecting and gullible tools of a viciously corrupt government. The last straw for me was the Cheneys supporting Biden and Chinese state oil getting the Iraqi oil contracts including the right to resell higher. Everything suddenly became clear. Our military did their dirty work, we get the debt and the dead, and they get the spoils. The left was right, blood for oil. Only they don't care now as long as it's their guy doing it because they're vapid soulless degenerate fucks. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 7:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The last straw for me was the Cheneys supporting Biden and Chinese state oil getting the Iraqi oil contracts including the right to resell higher. Everything suddenly became clear. Our military did their dirty work, we get the debt and the dead, and they get the spoils. The left was right, blood for oil. Only they don't care now as long as it's their guy doing it because they're vapid soulless degenerate fucks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Trump/Russia What this is telling you is that Trump having had access AND an opportunity to declassify it (and didn't) knows the truth. This is an effort to get out ahead of that leak in much the same way that the most recent "peach mints" were an effort to get his security clearance. The fucking CIA killed Kennedy because he threatened to disband them. The CIA would have and likely still will kill Trump to keep their secrets. People however still rally around the flag and give reverence to the military who have been doing the Deep states bidding for almost a century under the guise of "protecting democracy" around the world. No, they are simply low payed, unsuspecting and gullible tools of a viciously corrupt government. The last straw for me was the Cheneys supporting Biden and Chinese state oil getting the Iraqi oil contracts including the right to resell higher. Everything suddenly became clear. Our military did their dirty work, we get the debt and the dead, and they get the spoils. The left was right, blood for oil. Only they don't care now as long as it's their guy doing it because they're vapid soulless degenerate fucks. Guaran fuckin teed!! |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 7:52:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you really think the CIA hands over any real information of substance concerning controversial issues to any president? The president can ask for any info he wants but the gatekeepers decide what he sees. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Trump/Russia What this is telling you is that Trump having had access AND an opportunity to declassify it (and didn't) knows the truth. This is an effort to get out ahead of that leak in much the same way that the most recent "peach mints" were an effort to get his security clearance. The fucking CIA killed Kennedy because he threatened to disband them. The CIA would have and likely still will kill Trump to keep their secrets. People however still rally around the flag and give reverence to the military who have been doing the Deep states bidding for almost a century under the guise of "protecting democracy" around the world. No, they are simply low payed, unsuspecting and gullible tools of a viciously corrupt government. Do you really think the CIA hands over any real information of substance concerning controversial issues to any president? The president can ask for any info he wants but the gatekeepers decide what he sees. Absolutely not, but he can see some things and it was put to him to declassify the entire report. Did that have a CIA coloring book included? Well, fucking no. Do you think that a POTUS doesn't have access to any classified information that may be damaging to his political opponents, or incriminating to the various agencies? |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 8:17:21 PM EDT
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This seems to be an effort by the authors to profit on the JFK interest & the Dems recent interest in making Russia our primary enemy.
Oswald was involved with Cuban activists. May have been an active participant in the assassination plot or merely set up. Jack Ruby was a Chicago Mob associate and ran guns to Cuba. He was likely part of the plot and failed to bump off Oswald before he was captured so was ordered to hit him while in police custody. The plot was likely initiated by intelligence insiders & Lyndon Johnson with mob help. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 9:21:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Operation 40 was super-ceded by Directive 87. The umbrella gun with ice bullets, obviously. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't doubt Oswald was some type of double agent or led to believe he was. The coordination of various government entities before and after the hit was way above Oswald or even the Soviets resources in the US. Had to be internal and high up. Operation 40 most likely. Operation 40 was super-ceded by Directive 87. The umbrella gun with ice bullets, obviously. Nah all it took was a bunch of annoyed people in govt and a recently pink slipped assassin group. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 9:31:25 PM EDT
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Interestingly, the first time I heard of Oswald running a height-finding radar in the USMC and likely having experience tracking U-2 flights was in Powers' book "Operation Overflight" written before Powers was killed in a helo accident in LA.
The book did pass CIA classification review at that point (as Powers pointed out, he kept a bunch from the Soviets and he wasn't going to give it up in a book.) |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 9:47:42 PM EDT
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The holdback data that Trump was finally able to release in 2017 included the fact that Oswald had multiple halves of dollar bills... that is straight outta spy school kit for identifying a specific contact and confirming they're legit, since only they will have the other half of the bill.
It means Oswald was in contact with persons he would need to identify who were unknown to him personally, like a courier. Whether that was related to the assassination or some other intelligence operation, it knocks flat the narrative that Oswald was a crazy lone nut that had zero contact with intelligence assets after he returned from the Soviet Union. The fact that the Gov't kept it hidden for over fifty years shows how big a secret they considered this to be. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 9:53:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a believe of the Secret Service ND theory. In short, Oswald took shots from the observatory, startling a PSD agent who ND'd into Kennedy, which was subsequently covered up. Not sure how Jack Ruby fits into this. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 9:55:45 PM EDT
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LBJ was scum, I'll always believe he was involved!
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Posted: 2/24/2021 10:02:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/24/2021 10:03:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What you just said tells me you don't have a clue what you are talking about. It's actually a straight line from Connally's left wrist (wound 7) to Kennedy's back (wound 1) to the 6th floor snipers nest. The Warren Commission failed to appreciate that Connally's jumper seat was lower and further inboard compared to how Kennedy was seated. Once this correction is made it's a straight line. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 10:06:11 PM EDT
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Fun fact: The CIA created the term 'conspiracy theory' shortly before JFK was assassinated.
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Posted: 2/24/2021 10:08:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: dude is just selling a book and morons will give him money when they buy it everyone knows OJ's son did it  We know, it was covered in last month's GD legal seminar How did OJ get away with it |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 10:15:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: XP-100 on the grassy knoll? I bet a 22-250 , or a swift. Watch the Zapruder footage , watch John Kennedy’s head . His goes back and to his left , as much stuff as I have hunted and shot over the years this doesn’t match simple physics. The grassy knoll lines up pretty nicely. |
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Posted: 2/24/2021 10:19:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LBJ was scum, I'll always believe he was involved! “It was those goddamn oil men.” (Rockefellers?) -LBJ |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:01:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ... and like someone above said - visit the deposity 6th floor museum and look out that window. you'll realize its much closer and a much easier shot that it seems from the pics and from looking from the ground up. Now as to who the sixth floor shooter was, and if the target was Kennedy or Connelly I'll leave that open for now. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 4:30:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a believe of the Secret Service ND theory. In short, Oswald took shots from the observatory, startling a PSD agent who ND'd into Kennedy, which was subsequently covered up. Not sure how Jack Ruby fits into this. You watch JFK the smoking gun too? George Hickey was the SS agent. I find it very plausible myself. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:21:11 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a believe of the Secret Service ND theory. In short, Oswald took shots from the observatory, startling a PSD agent who ND'd into Kennedy, which was subsequently covered up. Not sure how Jack Ruby fits into this. I think so as well. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:47:21 AM EDT
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He was a Radar operator and gave the Russian the flight path of the U2 so they could lob SAM 2 at the U2
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:50:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:51:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How was he allowed to move to USSR and return? This right here. If he was a defector, he wouldnt be allowed back, at least not without serious problems. Yet he came back and seemed to work for the same people who sent him. Sort of says it all. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 12:27:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was a Radar operator and gave the Russian the flight path of the U2 so they could lob SAM 2 at the U2 |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 5:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet a 22-250 , or a swift. Watch the Zapruder footage , watch John Kennedy’s head . His goes back and to his left , as much stuff as I have hunted and shot over the years this doesn’t match simple physics. The grassy knoll lines up pretty nicely. So, all headshots with .320+SD round nose FMJ bullets moving at about 2000fps on 150+/- pound critters with 1200+/- gram brains inside nice round cranial vaults mounted on relatively short, highly mobile necks, huh? Yeah, didn't think so. Absent that, you're comparing apples to ceiling fans. The "back and to the left" thing is not only tiresome, it fails on two counts: the "simple physics" and jet effect has been covered on the last page. What is rarely noted is the brain itself. It makes, stores, and distributes electricity for a living. When you suddenly smash it or push bullets through it, a lot of electricity is suddenly released in unpredictable amounts and directions. That electricity drives things like muscles, many of which do things like control the head. The direction of the head movement is utterly meaningless. The "neither magic nor pristine bullet" has already been addressed. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 5:26:50 PM EDT
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No one tells the truth anymore
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Posted: 2/25/2021 5:32:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one tells the truth anymore But everyone has a goofy fan theory about what's really going on. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 5:33:43 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't doubt he gave radar information... but Oswald was a radar operator in Japan, would he have info about the flight path of a U2 flying from Pakistan to Norway? No, and that theory has absolutely zero credible information to back it up. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 6:27:01 PM EDT
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Didn’t JFK give a speech on secret societies?
Was he bagging on the Skull and Bones “fraternity” from Yale? JFK went to Princeton and then Harvard law, so surely in the Ivy League circles he traveled in, he must have heard about the Skull and Bones fraternity at Yale. Then after WWII, I bet he heard how the OSS and then later the CIA was full of Skull and Bones members. Or was he bagging on the central bankers? Or both? Ever see the movie “The Good Shepherd” ? I am pretty sure George Herbert Walker Bush (#41) was Skull and Bones. He also became director of the CIA in 1976 And so was George Bush (#43)? Remember the “don’t taze me bro!” Guy? He was trying to ask John Kerry if he was Skull and Bones. Anywhoooo.... if not the secret societies , then it was the military-industrial complex. LBJ was from Texas. A lot of military contractors are in Texas:. The Vietnam war made a shit ton of money for the MIC.  Movie JFK: Mr X encourages Garrison for case |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 6:30:40 PM EDT
[#29]
100% not what happened. You really think you can trust an ex-CIA director? HA HA.
No, more like they told Oswald to protect the president and be on the lookout for snpers (so he thought he was a good guy and didn't know he was the patsy), and then skull and bones george bush sr. who was there that day oversaw the operation that had 3-6 teams of 2 shooters, with the final kill shot coming from under a storm drain below the grassy noll. The CIA in conjunction with mafia carried out that op, on the orders of the cabalist central banksters that have been manipulating our geopolitical history for over 300 years who did not want JFK to follow through with his plan to dismantle the CIA due to it being controlled by directors beholden to their secret societies which are controlled by the cabalist banksters, and JFK publicly started calling out the dangers of these secret societies infiltrating all areas of our nation (media, intelligence agencies, military industrial complex, education, and so on) in a famous speech JFK gave on April 27, 1961 at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in NYC. *cough I mean yea he was a soviet spy *cough. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 8:33:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yep. when i was young i used to think the shot came from the grassy knoll since diagrams (autopsy? i dont recall) showed a big hole roughly in the forehead and all the talk about "back and to the left" movement of his body in reaction, but the first time i saw the actual zapruder footage of that part i thought it was pretty clear both of those things are from an exit wound and the force of the bullet exiting. and like someone above said - visit the deposity 6th floor museum and look out that window. you'll realize its much closer and a much easier shot that it seems from the pics and from looking from the ground up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The last part of the Zapruder film is usually censored as it's very graphic, but you can find it online. JFK's head explodes and you see every bit of it. It's a textbook small entry in the back of the head and massive exit out his face. Not possible to come from the grassy knoll but lines up perfectly with Oswald's window. yep. when i was young i used to think the shot came from the grassy knoll since diagrams (autopsy? i dont recall) showed a big hole roughly in the forehead and all the talk about "back and to the left" movement of his body in reaction, but the first time i saw the actual zapruder footage of that part i thought it was pretty clear both of those things are from an exit wound and the force of the bullet exiting. and like someone above said - visit the deposity 6th floor museum and look out that window. you'll realize its much closer and a much easier shot that it seems from the pics and from looking from the ground up. Would one of you guys please send me a link or post a link? My google-fu has netted me nothing but documentary-type videos, full of bullshit and cutting out right at the critical moment. Thanks, |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 8:38:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LBJ would have been a better target. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 8:54:37 PM EDT
[#32]
Operation Northwoods got JFK killed. The chairman of the joint chiefs of staff that proposed killing thousands in false flags was fired by JFK over it, and was appointed Supreme allied commander of NATO after. How fucking obvious does it have to be?
The Democratic party was taken over by the CIA back then. Or do you really think it's coincidence the same CIA agent was foolishly caught at Watergate, detained for suspicious activity at the JFK assassination, and fumbled the Bay of Pigs? JFK got whacked after Bay of Pigs failed to get him impeached and Nixon got set up. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:03:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think we'll ever get the truth of what happened that day, just like we'll never get the truth of Jeffrey Epsteins murder. But there's enough evidence to suggest that the official story isn't it. This. If the truth was known, Oswald was on the second floor the entire time. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:05:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySeveral members didn’t believe the magic bullet theory. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:10:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, this is it. And if you have been to Dallas you know this was not a really difficult shot. You would also know that the whole Grassy Knoll thing is ridiculous. Then why did he miss his first and easiest shot? |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:12:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: . Allen Dulles was one of the most nefarious cock suckers to ever walk the face of this planet. You are correct sir. And he loathed JFK, who fired him earlier. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:17:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This... Everything else happened on the grassy knoll ETA... The Badge Man Yep. Dozens of eye witnesses said it came from the Knoll. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:21:44 PM EDT
[#38]
BS.
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:22:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, all headshots with .320+SD round nose FMJ bullets moving at about 2000fps on 150+/- pound critters with 1200+/- gram brains inside nice round cranial vaults mounted on relatively short, highly mobile necks, huh? Yeah, didn't think so. Absent that, you're comparing apples to ceiling fans. The "back and to the left" thing is not only tiresome, it fails on two counts: the "simple physics" and jet effect has been covered on the last page. What is rarely noted is the brain itself. It makes, stores, and distributes electricity for a living. When you suddenly smash it or push bullets through it, a lot of electricity is suddenly released in unpredictable amounts and directions. That electricity drives things like muscles, many of which do things like control the head. The direction of the head movement is utterly meaningless. The "neither magic nor pristine bullet" has already been addressed. So one bullet stays completely intact, but one explodes like a hollow point? |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:26:07 PM EDT
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I don't buy it.
I believe the Russians were up to such evil deeds but LHO was a wack job who was quite unstable . I don't believe the Russians would send him out because they were afraid of our bombers . If they had sent him they would have paid him well and at the time he could barely take care of his wife and child. Years ago I did a bunch of reading on the whole assignation and one theory that rang true for me was that Oswald had some kind of grudge against Gov Conely and he was the intended target and JFK just got in the way. I really believe the lone gunman thing , just seems that over time if there had been some kind of conspiracy there would have been some leakage . |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:31:08 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How was he allowed to move to USSR and return? We know that he was trained by the CIA. We know that. It has come out from library of congress. He went to the USSR and was arrested as a spy. Then came back and was allowed into the US. When there is smoke there is..... |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:31:35 PM EDT
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Ar15 downward slide. People here think CIA killed a sitting us president? A pro war hawk one committed to war in Vietnam at that. Funny.
Something stinky happened but soviets doing it makes as much sense as any of the other theories. Kennedy was anti commie that’s for sure. My how things have changed. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 9:32:12 PM EDT
[#43]
Dealey Plaza Webcam
Not much good right now since it's nigthtime, but it's worth taking a look at during daylight hours. There's a big X on the road where the kill shot happened. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:02:17 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Patsy kills patsy, like a self licking popsicle. It gets way better. Then patsy killing patsy dies from mysterious causes in jail. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:06:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then why did he miss his first and easiest shot? http://www.kbrhorse.net/signals/eagle03a.html https://web.archive.org/web/20120308181447/http://www.washingtondecoded.com/site/2011/11/the-.html |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:08:52 PM EDT
[#46]
But but he’s just a hapless sop who made the miracle 60 yard shot that no one else in the world could make
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:37:04 PM EDT
[#47]
The railroad workers on the Triple Overpass (English Version)
 The railroad workers on the Triple Overpass (English Version) |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:57:34 PM EDT
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I'm honestly surprised they didn't have a "soviet spy" kill Trump.
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Posted: 2/25/2021 10:59:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: Apparently the Soviets ordered Oswald to return to the USA to kill JFK, but then changed their minds. But Oswald went on with the plan. An interesting thing I didn't know about Oswald, he was a spy who used his station in Japan to help the Soviets shoot down the U-2 in 1960 According to the authors, the Soviets recruited Oswald in 1957, when he was a US Marine serving in Japan. After working clandestine missions for them for several years including providing the information that allowed them to shoot down American pilot Gary Powers in 1960 he was assigned in 1962, possibly by Khrushchev himself, to begin preparations to assassinate President Kennedy. Oswald was an attention craving nut job and IMO the soviets didn't want him either (why else let him go back freely?), I don't think it was some grand plot to kill JFK. |
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Posted: 2/25/2021 11:42:25 PM EDT
[#50]
Well, when you double cross and turn on the mob which assured your family's election and piss off the CIA....
you might be a redneck |
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