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Link Posted: 2/24/2021 1:16:30 PM EDT
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https://www.nsa.gov/Portals/70/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/jfk/jfk00020.pdf

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U2 was shot down May 1, 1960, Oswald was already separated from the USMC by 1959.


Lee became 17 on October 18 1956. He enlisted in the Marines on October 24

On October 26, 1956, Lee Harvey Oswald reported for duty at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego, Calif., where he was assigned to the Second Recruit Training Battalion.

He was 68 inches tall and weighed 135 pounds; he had no physical defects.

On October 30, he took a series of aptitude tests, on which he scored significantly above the Marine Corps average in reading and vocabulary and significantly below the average in tests in arithmetic and pattern analysis. His composite general classification score was 105, 2 points below the Corps average.

He scored near the bottom of the lowest group in a radio code test.His preference of duty was recorded as Aircraft Maintenance and Repair, the duty assignment for which he was recommended.

While he was at San Diego, Oswald was trained in the use of the M-1 rifle.His practice scores were not very good, but when his company fired for record on December 21, he scored 212, 2 points above the score necessary to qualify as a "sharpshooter" on a marksman/sharpshooter/expert scale.He did not do nearly as well when he fired for record again shortly before he left the Marines.He practiced also with a riot gun and a .45-caliber pistol when he was in the Marines but no scores were recorded.

Oswald was given a 4.4 rating in both "conduct" and "proficiency" at the Recruit Depot, the highest possible rating being 5.0 and an average rating of 4.0 being required for an honorable discharge. On January 18, 1957, he reported to Camp Pendleton, Calif., for further training and was assigned to "A" Company of the First Battalion, Second Infantry Training Regiment. He was at Pendleton for a little more than 5 weeks, at the end of which he was rated 4.2 in conduct and 4.0 in proficiency.

Allen R. Felde, a fellow recruit who was with Oswald at San Diego and Pendleton, has stated that Oswald was generally unpopular and that his company was avoided by the other men. When his squad was given its first weekend leave from Pendleton, all eight men took a cab to Tijuana, Mexico. Oswald left the others and did not rejoin them until it was time to return to camp. Felde said that this practice was repeated on other trips to Los Angeles; Oswald accompanied the men on the bus to and from camp but did not stay with them in the city. On February 27, he went on leave for 2 weeks, during which he may have visited his mother in Fort Worth.

On March 18, he reported to the Naval Air Technical Training Center at the Naval Air Station in Jacksonville, Fla. For the next 6 weeks he attended an Aviation Fundamental School, in which he received basic instruction in his specialty, including such subjects as basic radar theory, map reading, and air traffic control procedures. This course, as well as his next training assignment at Keesler Air Force Base, required Oswald to deal with confidential material. He was granted final clearance up to the "confidential" level on May 3, "after [a] careful check of local records had disclosed no derogatory data." He completed the course on the same day, ranking 46th in a class of 54 students. On the previous day, he had been promoted to private, first class, effective May 1. At Jacksonville, he received ratings of 4.7 in conduct and 4.5 in proficiency, the highest ratings he ever attained.

Oswald left for Keesler Air Force Base in Biloxi, Miss., on the day his course was completed; he traveled, probably by overnight train, in a group of six marines led by Pfc. Daniel P. Powers, the senior marine in charge. At Keesler, he attended the Aircraft Control and Warning Operator Course, which included instruction in aircraft surveillance and the use of radar. Powers was not sure whether he had met Oswald before the trip to Biloxi but remembers him there as "a somewhat younger individual less matured than the other boys," who "was normally outside the particular group of marines that were in this attachment to Keesler." (Oswald was in fact 3 years younger than Powers.) Powers testified that Oswald had the nickname "Ozzie Rabbit." Oswald generally stayed to himself, often reading; he did not play cards or work out in the gym with the others. He spent his weekends alone, away from the base; Powers thought he left Biloxi and perhaps went "home" to New Orleans, less than 100 miles away. He finished the course seventh in a class of 30 marines on June 17, and on June 25, was given an MOS (military occupational specialty) of Aviation Electronics Operator. On June 20, he went on leave, possibly visiting his mother. His ratings at Keesler were 4.2 in conduct. and 4.5 in proficiency, which Powers thought was "pretty good."

On July 9, Oswald reported at the Marine Corps Air Station at El Toro, Calif., near Santa Ana. He was classified as a replacement trainee and attached to the Fourth Replacement Battalion.

Six weeks later, on August 22, he departed from San Diego for Yokosuka, Japan, on board the U.S.S. Bexar. Powers testified that while on board, Oswald taught him to play chess, which they played frequently, sometimes for more than 4 hours a day. Like most of the men on board, Oswald read a lot from the books which were available. Powers thought he read "a good type of literature," remembering in particular Whitman's "Leaves of Grass."

The Bexar docked at Yokosuka on September 12. Oswald was assigned to Marine Air Control Squadron No. 1 (MACS-1), Marine Air Group 11, 1st Marine Aircraft Wing, based at Atsugi, about 20 miles west of Tokyo. Oswald was a radar operator in MACS-1, which had less than 100 men. Its function was to direct aircraft to their targets by radar, communicating with the pilots by radio. The squadron had also the duty of scouting for incoming foreign aircraft, such as straying Russian or Chinese planes, which would be intercepted by American planes.

On October 27, when Oswald opened his locker to remove some gear, a derringer .22 caliber pistol fell to the floor and discharged; the bullet hit him in the left elbow. Paul Edward Murphy, a fellow marine who was in the next cubicle, heard the shot, rushed in, and found Oswald sitting on the locker looking at his arm; without emotion, Oswald said to Murphy, "I believe I shot myself."  He was in the naval hospital at Yokosuka until November 15.

The Judge Advocate General concluded that Oswald had "displayed a certain degree of carelessness or negligence" by storing a loaded revolver in his locker, but that his injury was incurred "in the line of duty" and was not the result of his own misconduct."  He was, however, charged with possession of an unregistered privately owned weapon in violation of general orders. A court-martial followed on April 11, 1958, when Oswald's unit returned from maneuvers, and on April 29 he was sentenced to be confined at hard labor for 20 days, to forfeit $25 per month for 2 months, and to be reduced to the grade of private. The confinement was suspended for 6 months, after which that portion of the sentence was to be remitted.

Five days after Oswald left the hospital, MACS-1 embarked aboard the Terrell County, LST 1157, for maneuvers in the Philippine Islands

According to Powers' recollection, the squadron was expected to return to Atsugi after maneuvers were completed, but an international crisis developed; since another operation was scheduled for a few months later, the squadron debarked at Cubi Point (Subic Bay) in the Philippines and set up a temporary installation.While he was in the Philippines, Oswald passed a test of eligibility for the rank of corporal; in a semiannual evaluation, however, he was given his lowest ratings thus far: 4.0 in conduct and 3.9 in proficiency. The unit participated in exercises at Corregidor, from which it sailed for Atsugi on March 7, 1958, aboard the U.S.S. Wexford County, LST 1168.The Wexford County reached Atsugi 11 days later.352

Oswald was court-martialed a second time on June 27, for using "provoking words" to a noncommissioned officer (a sergeant) on June 20, at the Bluebird Cafe in Yamato, and assaulting the officer by pouring a drink on him.

The findings were that Oswald spilled the drink accidentally, but when the sergeant shoved him away, Oswald invited the sergeant outside in insulting language.
Oswald admitted that he was rather drunk and had invited the sergeant outside but did not recall insulting him. He was sentenced to be confined at hard labor for 28 days and to forfeit $55; in addition, suspension of the previous sentence of confinement was withdrawn.He was in confinement until August 13. Meanwhile, a previously granted extension of oversea duty was canceled,and he was given ratings of 1.9 in conduct and 3.4 in proficiency.

On September 14, Oswald sailed with his unit for the South China Sea area; the unit was at Ping Tung, North Taiwan on September 30, and returned to Atsugi on October 5.On October 6, he was transferred out of MACS-1 and put on general duty, in anticipation of his return to the United States. He spent several days thereafter in the Atsugi Station Hospital. On October 31, he received his last oversea ratings: 4.0 in both conduct and proficiency.

Oswald appears generally to have been regarded by his fellows overseas as an intelligent person who followed orders and did his work well, but who complained frequently. He did not associate much with other marines and continued to read a great deal. Paul Murphy testified that Oswald could speak "a little Russian" while he was overseas. Powers believed that Oswald became more assertive in Japan and thought that he might have had a Japanese girl friend. He departed from Yokosuka on board the USNS Barbet on November 2, and arrived in San Francisco 13 days later. On November 19, he took 30 days' leave.

On December 22, Oswald was assigned to Marine Air Control Squadron No. 9 (MACS-9) at the Marine Corps Air Station at El Toro, where he had been briefly before he went overseas. He was one of about seven enlisted men and three officers who formed a "radar crew," engaged primarily in aircraft surveillance. This work probably gave him access to certain kinds of classified material, some of which, such as aircraft call signs and radio frequencies, was changed after his defection to Russia.

For part of his time at El Toro, Oswald may have been assigned to clerical or janitorial tasks on the base. Some of his associates believed rumors, incorrect according to official records, that he had lost his clearance to work on radar crews; one recalled hearing that Oswald had once had clearance above the "confidential" level and had lost it because he "had poured beer over a staff NCO's head in an enlisted club in Japan, and had been put in the brig."

The officer in command of the radar crew, Lt. John E. Donovan, found him "competent in all functions," and observed that he handled himself calmly and well in emergency situations. Donovan thought Oswald was not a leader but that he performed competently on occasions when, as the senior man present, he served as crew chief. This estimate was generally shared by his fellows, most of whom thought that he performed his assigned duties adequately but was deficient in disciplinary matters and such things as barracks inspection. One of them recalled that after a number of bad inspections, the other members of Oswald's quonset hut complained about him and secured his transfer to another hut. He was thought to be an intelligent person, somewhat better educated and more intellectually oriented than other men on the base. A few of the men thought it more accurate to describe him as someone who wanted to appear intelligent. He had a pronounced interest in world affairs, in which he appears to have been better informed than some of the officers, whose lack of knowledge amused and sometimes irritated him; he evidently enjoyed drawing others, especially officers, into conversations in which he could display his own superior knowledge.

It seems clear from the various recollections of those who knew him at El Toro that by the time Oswald returned to the United States, he no longer had any spirit for the Marines; the attitudes which had prompted his enlistment as soon as he was eligible were entirely gone, and his attention had turned away from the Marines to what he might do after his discharge. While no one was able to predict his attempt to defect to Russia within a month after he left the Marines, the testimony of those who knew him at El Toro in contrast to that of his associates in Japan, leaves no doubt that his thoughts were occupied increasingly with Russia and the Russian way of life. He had studied the Russian language enough by February 25, 1959, to request that he be given a foreign language qualification test; his rating was "poor" in all parts of the test. Most of the marines who knew him were aware that he was studying Russian; one of them, Henry J. Roussel, Jr., arranged a date between Lee and his aunt, Rosaleen Quinn, an airline stewardess who was also studying Russian. (Miss Quinn thought that Oswald spoke Russian well in view of his lack of formal training; she found the evening uninteresting. Donovan, with whom she had a date later, testified that she told him that Oswald was "kind of an oddball.")  He read, and perhaps subscribed to, a newspaper, possibly printed in Russian, which his associates connected with his Russian bent.

Most of those who knew him were able to recount anecdotes which suggest that he was anxious to publicize his liking for things Russian, sometimes in good humor and sometimes seriously. Some of his fellows called him "Oswaldskovich," apparently to his pleasure. He is said to have had his name written in Russian on one of his jackets; to have played records of Russian songs "so loud that one could hear them outside the barracks"; frequently to have made remarks in Russian or used expressions like "da" or "nyet," or addressed others (and been addressed) as "Comrade"; to have come over and said jokingly, "You called?" when one of the marines played a particular record of Russian music.

At the end of January 1959 and at the end of July, Oswald was given his semiannual ratings, scoring 4.0 in conduct both times, and 4.0 and 4.2 in proficiency. (The July ratings were repeated in September, when he was transferred from MACS-9 in preparation for his discharge.) On March 9, he was promoted as of March 1, to the rank of private, first class, for the second time. He took a series of high school level general educational development tests on March 23 and received an overall rating of "satisfactory." His best scores, in the 76th and 79th U.S. percentiles, were in English composition and physical sciences; his worst was English literature, in which he placed in the 34th percentile.

In the spring, Oswald applied to Albert Schweitzer College in Churwalden, Switzerland, for admission to the spring term in 1960; the application is dated March 19. Schweitzer is a small school, which specializes in courses in religion, ethics, science, and literature. He claimed a proficiency in Russian equal to 1 year of schooling and that he had completed high school by correspondence with an average grade of 85 percent. He listed philosophy, psychology, ideology, football, baseball, tennis and stamp-collecting as special interests, and writing short stories "on contemporary American life" as his vocational interest. Jack London, Charles Darwin, and Norman Vincent Peale were listed as favorite authors. He claimed membership in the YMCA and the "A.Y.H. Association," and said that he had participated in a "student body movement in school" for the control of juvenile delinquency.

Oswald was obligated to serve on active duty until December 7, 1959 (the date having been adjusted to compensate for the period of confinement). On August 17, he submitted a request for a dependency discharge, on the ground that his mother needed his support. The request was accompanied by an affidavit of Mrs. Oswald and corroborating affidavits from an attorney, a doctor, and two friends, attesting that she had been injured at work in December 1958, and was unable to support herself. Oswald had previously made a voluntary allotment of part of his salary to his mother, under which arrangement she received $40 in August, and had submitted an application for a "Q" allotment (dependency allowance) in her behalf of $91.30; one payment of the "Q" allotment, for the month of August, was made in September. On August 28, the Wing Hardship or Dependency Discharge Board recommended that Oswald's request for a discharge be approved;  approval followed shortly. On September 4, he was transferred from MACS-9 to the H. & H. Squadron, and on September 11, he was released from active duty and transferred to the Marine Corps Reserve, in which he was expected to serve until December 8, 1962. He was assigned to the Marine Air Reserve Training Command at the Naval Air Station in Glenview, Ill.

Almost exactly 1 year later, on September 13, 1960, Oswald was given an "undesirable discharge" from the Marine Corps Reserve, based on:    reliable information which indicated that he had renounced his U.S. citizenship with the intentions of becoming a permanent citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Further, that petitioner brought discredit to the Marine Corps through adverse newspaper publicity, which was generated by the foregoing action, and had thereby, in the opinion of his commanding officer, proved himself unfit for retention in the naval service.

On September 4, the day on which he was transferred out of MACS-9 in preparation for his discharge, Oswald had applied for a passport at the Superior Court of Santa Ana, Calif. His application stated that he planned to leave the United States on September 21 to attend the Albert Schweitzer College and the University of Turku in Finland, and to travel in Cuba, the Dominican Republic, England, France Germany, and Russia. The passport was routinely issued 6 days later.

Link Posted: 2/24/2021 1:31:24 PM EDT
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This along with why wasn't he watched 24/7?
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How was he allowed to move to USSR and return?
This along with why wasn't he watched 24/7?

Oswald was a radar operator. He had useful information for the Soviets when he defected.

The whole story about him being just let back in is full of fuckery! He should have been tried for treason.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 1:34:41 PM EDT
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CIA has proven itself to be an anti American organization that actively works against the American people.

They have zero credibility of any kind.

Any self respecting American citizen who is affiliated with any of these 3 letter agencies should be actively working to tear it apart from the inside, or resign.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest you have never been in a position to actually know anything about these Agencies.  You only know what you hear on Info wars.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 1:37:17 PM EDT
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It wasnt as forbidden as you might think.

Bernie Sanders honeymooned there.
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How was he allowed to move to USSR and return?
It wasnt as forbidden as you might think.

Bernie Sanders honeymooned there.


Yes, at the height of the Cold War an American could freely travel to the Soviet Union.  Yet thanks to the Cuban lobby you can't travel to Cuba.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 1:37:54 PM EDT
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Apparently the Soviets ordered Oswald to return to the USA to kill JFK, but then changed their minds. But Oswald went on with the plan.

An interesting thing I didn't know about Oswald, he was a spy who used his station in Japan to help the Soviets shoot down the U-2 in 1960
According to the authors, the Soviets recruited Oswald in 1957, when he was a US Marine serving in Japan. After working clandestine missions for them for several years  including providing the information that allowed them to shoot down American pilot Gary Powers in 1960  he was assigned in 1962, possibly by Khrushchev himself, to begin preparations to assassinate President Kennedy.
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A loser with a surplus rifle was in the right place at the wrong time.

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Yep, this is it.  And if you have been to Dallas you know this was not a really difficult shot.  You would also know that the whole Grassy Knoll thing is ridiculous.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 2:27:16 PM EDT
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For a gun board, this place is surprisingly incurious re. Oswald's rifle.
Assume you were part of a KGB/CIA/mafia/powerful international globalist organization (whichever fits) and want JFK dead.
Your cabal is, by definition, filthy rich, like "they have $10 less than God, who just got a raise" rich, so money is no barrier: you can literally afford any weapon you want.
It's pre-1968: anything you want can be delivered to your door, so there's no worrisome paper trail.
Do you choose
a) a common hunting rifle, like a Winchester M70 in a common cartridge like .30-06 using commonly available soft point bullets, topped with a common, high quality scope, like a Weaver.
or
b) an uncommon surplus rifle of poor reputation (deserved or not) for accuracy and ease of use, shooting uncommon ammo using round nose FMJ bullets, and topped with a cheap Japanese (at that time, a redundant phrase) scope.

Why does your global cabal intentionally handicap your shooter/patsy for absolutely no reason?
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Is this the real Russia Russia Russia?  The beginning of it?  Or a continuation?  I'm confused.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 3:01:57 PM EDT
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For a gun board, this place is surprisingly incurious re. Oswald's rifle.
Assume you were part of a KGB/CIA/mafia/powerful international globalist organization (whichever fits) and want JFK dead.
Your cabal is, by definition, filthy rich, like "they have $10 less than God, who just got a raise" rich, so money is no barrier: you can literally afford any weapon you want.
It's pre-1968: anything you want can be delivered to your door, so there's no worrisome paper trail.
Do you choose
a) a common hunting rifle, like a Winchester M70 in a common cartridge like .30-06 using commonly available soft point bullets, topped with a common, high quality scope, like a Weaver.
or
b) an uncommon surplus rifle of poor reputation (deserved or not) for accuracy and ease of use, shooting uncommon ammo using round nose FMJ bullets, and topped with a cheap Japanese (at that time, a redundant phrase) scope.

Why does your global cabal intentionally handicap your shooter/patsy for absolutely no reason?
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This right here!

No one, who knows firearms would ever use that lousy rifle to hit anything as serious, as a moving head sized target from an angle at a couple hundred yards, and rapidly accelerating away!
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 3:03:59 PM EDT
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He was ordered to take some shots from the book repository,  leave the rifle then flee.

He did that.

ETA: Jack Ruby was the shutter upper.

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So what was the Col. Walker assassination attempt about, then?

Oswald was a sad, attention whore. 100% of his actions make sense when you look at his personal history of trying to be a revolutionary. I don't think he needed any cajoling to do anything, he was a bitter turd of a man.
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An odd thing I found out about Oswald was that he spoke at a local college a few months before killing Kennedy.  Spring Hill College.
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Allen Dulles sat on the Warren Commission in much the same way and for the same reason that Robert Mueller led the Russia Russia witch hunt.

That reason was in both cases to protect the operating agency. Dulles protecting his child the CIA, and Mueller protecting the FBI.

Allen Dulles was one of the most nefarious cock suckers to ever walk the face of this planet.
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Where/how did a nobody like LHO get info relevant to the U2 program?
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If he was such an attention whore then why didn't admit to killing JFK in front of the media press at the police station. Finally got his spotlight and all he said was he was a patsy.
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Doesn't mean he wanted to rot in a Federal prison, either, FFS. He wanted to change the world, and he did, but don't confuse attention whoring with admission of the mother of all crimes.

He pulled the trigger, he shot Kennedy (and Walker) and got nailed. Now, were the shenanigans around this whole act? Sure, and Ruby's involvement has always been weird and unsettling, but I don't think for a second that Oswald was an operative or a patsy.

I circle back to Walker....what did that act possibly serve to anyone? Did he do it on his own? If he did, it explains JFK. If he didn't, then you need a plausible explanation how that attempt would have served the people pulling the strings...it runs contrary to JFK in a number of ways.

Occam, occam, occam.
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Onassis ordered the hit and some slippery feta muncher who owed 50k in gambling debt pulled the trigger

With that he got the girl

Now you know the truth
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He was married to the daughter of a senior Soviet intel officer, so I never understood why anyone thought they were not at least aware of his plans.
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He spoke on the radio and gave interviews, 4 times IIRC. Dude wanted to be a Che type character, maybe not a federal inmate, but a star just the same.
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He was married to the daughter of a senior Soviet intel officer, so I never understood why anyone thought they were not at least aware of his plans.
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It's very unlikely he had any plans on JFK when he was in Russia or even some time afterwards. The book job came before anyone knew Kennedy would be driving by, for example, it wasn't like he planted himself there. It was likely opportunism. He took the shots at Walker post-USSR. Did they know about that? If so, why would they care about a firebrand Texas/state politician? By all accounts, the Russians thought he was a useless putz...which fed his anger and need to "do something".
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I don’t doubt Oswald was some type of double agent or led to believe he was. The coordination of various government entities before and after the hit was way above Oswald or even the Soviets resources in the US. Had to be internal and high up. Operation 40 most likely.
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The last part of the Zapruder film is usually censored as it's very graphic, but you can find it online. JFK's head explodes and you see every bit of it. It's a textbook small entry in the back of the head and massive exit out his face. Not possible to come from the grassy knoll but lines up perfectly with Oswald's window.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 3:41:27 PM EDT
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Bullshit . Rubenstein is the key to the whole fucking thing . Blame the Russians is a wore out record .
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 3:49:41 PM EDT
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Ruby was JFK fanboy. Bigtime. Was watching a show on burlesque dancers from that time and the son of a club owner related how Ruby chewed his father out for being open on the day of JFKs funeral.
So with that in mind onw can see how he's want to kill LHO.
He might have even believed he'd be seen as a hero for doing so.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 3:59:05 PM EDT
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Ruby was JFK fanboy. Bigtime. Was watching a show on burlesque dancers from that time and the son of a club owner related how Ruby chewed his father out for being open on the day of JFKs funeral.
So with that in mind onw can see how he's want to kill LHO.
He might have even believed he'd be seen as a hero for doing so.
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Patsy kills patsy, like a self licking popsicle.
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For a gun board, this place is surprisingly incurious re. Oswald's rifle.
Assume you were part of a KGB/CIA/mafia/powerful international globalist organization (whichever fits) and want JFK dead.
Your cabal is, by definition, filthy rich, like "they have $10 less than God, who just got a raise" rich, so money is no barrier: you can literally afford any weapon you want.
It's pre-1968: anything you want can be delivered to your door, so there's no worrisome paper trail.
Do you choose
a) a common hunting rifle, like a Winchester M70 in a common cartridge like .30-06 using commonly available soft point bullets, topped with a common, high quality scope, like a Weaver.
or
b) an uncommon surplus rifle of poor reputation (deserved or not) for accuracy and ease of use, shooting uncommon ammo using round nose FMJ bullets, and topped with a cheap Japanese (at that time, a redundant phrase) scope.

Why does your global cabal intentionally handicap your shooter/patsy for absolutely no reason?
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Mitchell Werbell told an investigator for the House Select Committee on Political Assassinations, during an interview at his Georgia home, that he delivered a suppressed rifle to a hotel room in Dallas several days before the JFK assassination. He said 5 people were in that hotel room, three of which he recognized and one being E. Howard Hunt.
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Throughout modern history it was very easy for Russia to mess with USA.
Killing president. Electing president. And even hacking almost every government and private server in USA.
I think it’s too much credit to some barbaric hordes.


In reality, just like with 9/11, “someone” in us government knew something and used it to advance an agenda.
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I read your post in glorious Russian accent.
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LBJ would have been a better target.
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LBJ did more damage to our country than Kennedy ever could have, so I guess it depends on what the objective was.
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Patsy kills patsy, like a self licking popsicle.
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Ruby was JFK fanboy. Bigtime. Was watching a show on burlesque dancers from that time and the son of a club owner related how Ruby chewed his father out for being open on the day of JFKs funeral.
So with that in mind onw can see how he's want to kill LHO.
He might have even believed he'd be seen as a hero for doing so.


Patsy kills patsy, like a self licking popsicle.


Except LHO was no patsy and neither was Ruby.
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The TV series that has been since removed (The Men Who Killed Kennedy) which the title has I believe also seen more than one iteration,  revealed that it was the Corsican mafia that had a huge part in it, that was back in the late 90's.

After watching Michael Francese's story recently on it I believe it even more.

They will likely have more stories to pass along to further add confusion but I'm confident they will never reveal enough truth only toss out more obstacles amd diversions.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 4:47:05 PM EDT
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I don't doubt Oswald was some type of double agent or led to believe he was. The coordination of various government entities before and after the hit was way above Oswald or even the Soviets resources in the US. Had to be internal and high up. Operation 40 most likely.
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Operation 40 was super-ceded by Directive 87. The umbrella gun with ice bullets, obviously.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 4:51:14 PM EDT
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The last part of the Zapruder film is usually censored as it's very graphic, but you can find it online. JFK's head explodes and you see every bit of it. It's a textbook small entry in the back of the head and massive exit out his face. Not possible to come from the grassy knoll but lines up perfectly with Oswald's window.
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yep.

when i was young i used to think the shot came from the grassy knoll since diagrams (autopsy? i dont recall) showed a big hole roughly in the forehead and all the talk about "back and to the left" movement of his body in reaction, but the first time i saw the actual zapruder footage of that part i thought it was pretty clear both of those things are from an exit wound and the force of the bullet exiting.

and like someone above said - visit the deposity 6th floor museum and look out that window. you'll realize its much closer and a much easier shot that it seems from the pics and from looking from the ground up.


Link Posted: 2/24/2021 4:51:14 PM EDT
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Doubletap
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 4:57:49 PM EDT
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He was ordered to take some shots from the book repository,  leave the rifle then flee.

He did that.

ETA: Jack Ruby was the shutter upper.

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Link Posted: 2/24/2021 5:02:52 PM EDT
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How does a shot from behind blow his head from front to back?
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There was a re-enactment not too long ago that brought the head back after being shot from the rear.

Not sure how but purely speculation is, when the pressure has increased significantly inside the skull, and the large frontal exit is where the discharge is, I would think that the exploding force forward to the right, would push the head the opposite way, back and to the left.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 5:04:47 PM EDT
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Eddie Blake killed JFK for the DOD

Link Posted: 2/24/2021 5:13:20 PM EDT
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After watching the last five years I believe the most likely scenario is that JFK was killed because he wasn't cooperating with the globalist/swamp agenda.




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He was actively trying to remove the central bank. They did the same thing to Gaddafi.

So if Oswald got the kill shot from behind at a downward angle,, who was the guy in the sewer drain who blew his brains out and caused his head to go back and to the left?
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 5:19:50 PM EDT
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He was actively trying to remove the central bank. They did the same thing to Gaddafi.

So if Oswald got the kill shot from behind at a downward angle,, who was the guy in the sewer drain who blew his brains out and caused his head to go back and to the left?
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His head wound and jerk/reaction are perfectly in line with a rearward/downward shot from a rifle.

Sewer drain, lol.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 5:22:54 PM EDT
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If only we had done a Congressional investigation on the assassination
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I want some of those Congressional freikugel (magic boolits).
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 5:23:53 PM EDT
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Well you know what Hillary says
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Wait?  Hitlery knew JFK?
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LBJ would have been a better target.
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I think LBJ was in collusion with the hit men.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 5:27:05 PM EDT
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sounds exactly like something the real responsible party would say.
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This.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 5:33:57 PM EDT
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I've always believed that.
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He was ordered to take some shots from the book repository,  leave the rifle then flee.

He did that.

ETA: Jack Ruby was the shutter upper.

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This... Everything else happened on the grassy knoll ETA... The Badge Man
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 5:56:55 PM EDT
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I'm a believe of the Secret Service ND theory.

In short, Oswald took shots from the observatory, startling a PSD agent who ND'd into Kennedy, which was subsequently covered up.

Not sure how Jack Ruby fits into this.
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I think so as well.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 6:11:17 PM EDT
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Wouldn’t surprise me at all, everything about that assassination is clear as mud.
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<<<<<< Bad ass car.


My understanding in a nutshell. I could be wrong though.

1. Chicago mob steals the election and puts JFK in the White House

2. Chicago mob thought Bobby Kennedy (attorney general) would look the other way when it came to Cuban casinos run by the Chicago Mob

3. Chicago Mob was WRONG. Bobby Kennedy went after the Chicago Mob like a rabid pit bull.

4. Chicago Mob demands JFK put his brother Bobby on a leash but JFK pretty much tells the Mob to pound sand.

5. Badda boom, badda bing.... JFK suddenly has a headache.


Not sure where Oswald fits in unless the Mafia had the goods on him and forced Oswald to act.
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 6:24:13 PM EDT
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If only we had done a Congressional investigation on the assassination Russian collusion
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Link Posted: 2/24/2021 6:27:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/24/2021 6:31:44 PM EDT
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Watch "Tracking Oswald" some cool stuff in there.
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Link Posted: 2/24/2021 7:00:50 PM EDT
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All evident is Oswald was a nut job his entire life.  KGB would not risk including him in anything more than a trip to the liquor store.
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