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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:25:04 PM EDT
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It’s because dumbasses don’t know the difference between enduring rights and permissions and privileges based on transient popular culture. They’ve traded the former for the latter. The Indians have bought the pox ridden blankets again.
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I've had fleas, I've had lice
I've had the pox, and that ain't nice
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:25:26 PM EDT
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This...

There is a major difference between our situation and previous leftist genocides:  This is coming primarily from women and effeminize men.  No civilization can rule without the support of the warrior class and a strong majority of masculine men do not support the left's agenda.  Any crackdown is going to go sideways real fast.  They do not have the support of the police, fireman, construction workers, bikers, truckers, vets and active duty military and they are rapidly losing the unions.

We are the majority and they are afraid of us.  Their agenda is extremely unpopular outside of a handful of cities and a backlash is inevitable.  Once that backlash starts there is nothing they can do to stop it...
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That's what you think. Other facts are available. John Brown Gun Clubs. Socialist Rifle Association. And let's not forget this guy, who likely was only the tip of the iceberg:


The military reflects the makeup of society. Which means it's chock full of people who've been educated in woke-think in our public school system, deprived of a broad reading of world or US history, deprived of education in Western thought. Sure, there are staunch constitutionalists in the military. But there are a bunch of people who are not only military vets, but a number of combat vets who will happily tell you that capitalism is a failure, white men are evil, you'll own nothing and like it, etc.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:25:44 PM EDT
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If we lose this shit show, we are the bad guys and will never get to tell our side of the story.
Like everything else in history.

Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:27:22 PM EDT
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I agree.  Serious question - can we say that Osama won?
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It's more clear to NOW than it ever has been before, that 9/11/01 was a globalist scheme just as the China Virus is, to demoralize, destabilize, and dethrone the United State's excellence and quality of life for the citizenry.

Terrorism, if you will - but those who are told are responsible are simply convenient patsy's that make a good story for the evening propaganda.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:27:40 PM EDT
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Death of the corporation and reeemergence of the republic?
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Serious question, because I see you make plenty of thoughtful posts: do you think that can happen without a Spanish Civil War style conflict and subsequent purge of Leftists a la Franco? I like your postulated outcome: how can that come about?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:28:52 PM EDT
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I'll repost this; as America is unique in one way no other country in History is.  There are men here and there is a 2nd Amendment here.
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I used to think that this possibility was remotely true from 2009-2016 when we put up with all of that anti-American Marxist drivel.

But 2020 showed me that most tough guys are all talk and will do whatever they are told otherwise.  So as long as they are told by someone HIGHER UP and not EQUAL TO in social value.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:31:31 PM EDT
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And, it's not just us. By 2050 the CCP wants to be the world's preeminant economy.  It will need Taiwan to have it's sense of completion.  There is no better time than when the US is in turmoil.

Iran desparately wants to unify its people.  The best way to do that is to attack Israel.  Israel knows that, and has promised to attack Iran pre-emptively if we rejoin the Iran nuclear deal.  There is no better time for Iran to attack Israel, and likewise no better time for Israel to attack Iran.

So, we're looking at a spectacular time for world turmoil.
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Seems like I read a treatment for this screenplay somewhere....
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:31:55 PM EDT
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Just how I've been putting it.

August 14th I texted to a friend:

"Remember in history classes, learning about countries falling to political factions, heading completely off the rails and saying 'but how did they not see what was happening, why didn't they do something?'  We are past that point on the graph"

Sometime in October another friend said "Everyone knows how it ends - but I never thought I'd live to see it"
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:34:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:36:05 PM EDT
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The 4th Turning.  Must read to see where we are in history.  Punchline -- not good for the near term.  Written in 1997 it was extremely prescient.   Sorry in advance for the amazon link....

https://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:36:57 PM EDT
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Phase one was disrupting comms

This is phase two
Declare domestic terrorism
Being making examples of a chosen few to create a chilling effect on the general populace

Expect emergency "laws" to be passed to lend legitimacy to the tyranny.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:37:49 PM EDT
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It's more clear to NOW than it ever has been before, that 9/11/01 was a globalist scheme just as the China Virus is, to demoralize, destabilize, and dethrone the United State's excellence and quality of life for the citizenry.

Terrorism, if you will - but those who are told are responsible are simply convenient patsy's that make a good story for the evening propaganda.
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It's more clear to NOW than it ever has been before, that 9/11/01 was a globalist scheme just as the China Virus is, to demoralize, destabilize, and dethrone the United State's excellence and quality of life for the citizenry.

Terrorism, if you will - but those who are told are responsible are simply convenient patsy's that make a good story for the evening propaganda.

9/11 a globalist scheme? No.

History is a series of events, many of which are entirely or mostly unrelated, but the cumulative outcome of which directs the fate of societies and nations.

Great leaders and great nations can resist the short-term gravitational pull of events. The US did not have to respond to 9/11 with the Patriot Act, the TSA, DHS, and the Iraq War. But that's the course our leaders chose. I would say the US has not had any great leaders in many years. Mediocre leaders respond to events in a reactionary way with a short-term focus that has negative long-term impacts. Bush responded to 9/11 in a reactionary, not a visionary, way. Bush and the Neocon movement were focused on short-term electoral success, not the long-term best interest of the Republic, the People, and the Constitution. After Bush, only a revolutionary Republican could have won the Presidency, which the Rep establishment did not produce, so we got Obama. From Obama we got Trump, from Trump we got Biden, and here we are.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:38:33 PM EDT
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I was living in Nepal in the '90s when the Maoists slowly took control. First on the village level then winning national elections. After they murdered the royal family, they assumed absolute power in the resulting political vacuum.

My point is, nobody sees it happening until it already has.
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I'm pretty sure the prince (Dipendra?) killed his family, but maybe you're talking about something different?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:38:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:43:17 PM EDT
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What I liked about old history is that it's fast.  I can watch an entire WW2 miniseries in like 10 hours.  Living through it is taking forever
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:45:17 PM EDT
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But what's the answer? How can we avoid this? I haven't heard anyone with a plan or solution.
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The only way to stop what's coming is to do it first, so it's inevitable no matter what.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:46:40 PM EDT
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"Inexorable" is kind of a horrible word. It's the flavor of watching something happening to you and around you and you know exactly where it's going, but you have no power to stop it, because it's inexorable. Like Deadpool chasing you with a Zamboni.
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There is a curve ball. We have the 2nd amendment and an armed population. This has never been the case through human history.

I think we are in uncharted waters here.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:49:39 PM EDT
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9/11 a globalist scheme? No.

History is a series of events, many of which are entirely or mostly unrelated, but the cumulative outcome of which directs the fate of societies and nations.

Great leaders and great nations can resist the short-term gravitational pull of events. The US did not have to respond to 9/11 with the Patriot Act, the TSA, DHS, and the Iraq War. But that's the course our leaders chose. I would say the US has not had any great leaders in many years. Mediocre leaders respond to events in a reactionary way with a short-term focus that has negative long-term impacts. Bush responded to 9/11 in a reactionary, not a visionary, way. Bush and the Neocon movement were focused on short-term electoral success, not the long-term best interest of the Republic, the People, and the Constitution. After Bush, only a revolutionary Republican could have won the Presidency, which the Rep establishment did not produce, so we got Obama. From Obama we got Trump, from Trump we got Biden, and here we are.
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9/11 brought about much change and loss of rights.  Kung Flu brought about the Great Reset.  Both are fabricated events.  Where is the airplane wreckage?  Pentagon?  Sheesh.  Nearly 20 years later and still no one has any answers other than "you'll get banned here if you spread 9/11 conspiracies."
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:51:17 PM EDT
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There is a curve ball. We have the 2nd amendment and an armed population. This has never been the case through human history.

I think we are in uncharted waters here.
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Any history major who studied actual history and not leftist programming knows exactly what movie they're watching right now.
There is a curve ball. We have the 2nd amendment and an armed population. This has never been the case through human history.

I think we are in uncharted waters here.

The other difference is communication.   If somebody starts up the ovens, there is some risk that everyone on the planet knows about it by the end of the day.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:55:31 PM EDT
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There is a curve ball. We have the 2nd amendment and an armed population. This has never been the case through human history.

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I could make an equally persuasive and coherent argument that it's not the differences that matter, but the similarities, or that it's not the similarities, it's the differences, with all kinds of examples that support both, and I honestly can't say which one I actually ascribe to when the elastomer encounters the road surface. In terms of historical movements and parallels in current events.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:56:58 PM EDT
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I agree.  Serious question - can we say that Osama won?
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According to the spire at the top of the new WTC, yes...
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:57:52 PM EDT
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This...

There is a major difference between our situation and previous leftist genocides:  This is coming primarily from women and effeminize men.  No civilization can rule without the support of the warrior class and a strong majority of masculine men do not support the left's agenda.  Any crackdown is going to go sideways real fast.  They do not have the support of the police, fireman, construction workers, bikers, truckers, vets and active duty military and they are rapidly losing the unions.

We are the majority and they are afraid of us.  Their agenda is extremely unpopular outside of a handful of cities and a backlash is inevitable.  Once that backlash starts there is nothing they can do to stop it...
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Correct you are and the Leftist have no idea what awaits them.
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This...

There is a major difference between our situation and previous leftist genocides:  This is coming primarily from women and effeminize men.  No civilization can rule without the support of the warrior class and a strong majority of masculine men do not support the left's agenda.  Any crackdown is going to go sideways real fast.  They do not have the support of the police, fireman, construction workers, bikers, truckers, vets and active duty military and they are rapidly losing the unions.

We are the majority and they are afraid of us.  Their agenda is extremely unpopular outside of a handful of cities and a backlash is inevitable.  Once that backlash starts there is nothing they can do to stop it...


Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:58:17 PM EDT
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Sam Clemens came as close as anyone I know of to summing up my view of history, and I am a pretty avid armchair historian.

"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

I like to think of myself as the, "I think this is piss." guy in the is the glass half full or half empty paradigm.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:02:41 AM EDT
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I'll repost this; as America is unique in one way no other country in History is.  There are men here and there is a 2nd Amendment here.
We are simply allowing them some space -- for now.  

Until we dont.  


 

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Great quote, and whomever wrote it was dead right.

I keep praying and hoping it won't come to that, but we shall see.

Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:03:44 AM EDT
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Liberals won't like the Monster that they created.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:03:49 AM EDT
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The great demigod Xiden blitzkrieg

They hope by moving fast everyone will be forced into socialism
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:04:18 AM EDT
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There is a curve ball. We have the 2nd amendment and an armed population. This has never been the case through human history.

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What good is the second amendment really when the courts consistently rule against "brandishing" and "excessive force" and that just about no judge, court, lawyer, or politician holds any respect for the constitution outside of their own "interpretation?"

Guns sure are awesome in your safe though.  'Murica and Freedom!
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:09:00 AM EDT
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The other difference is communication.   If somebody starts up the ovens, there is some risk that everyone on the planet knows about it by the end of the day.
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There is a curve ball. We have the 2nd amendment and an armed population. This has never been the case through human history.

I think we are in uncharted waters here.

The other difference is communication.   If somebody starts up the ovens, there is some risk that everyone on the planet knows about it by the end of the day.

I've heard it said that the current generation of authoritarians has learned lessons from the past, and is willing to concede a certain amount of the appearance of freedom in order to placate the population. A kinder, gentler brand of dictatorship, if you will. I think that's probably true, there won't be ovens or camps.

But Venezuela is still starving. And that shining example of democracy, Zimbabwe.

I agree with the old saying, history may not repeat exactly, but it sure rhymes. The earlier poster who said Russia 1917 may have much truth. A major world power with awful corruption and inept leadership and significant income inequality, and a rising Socialist movement. Yeah, we got that. But we need a Franco. The White Russians got whipped in large part because they had no unity and no central leadership to rally support.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:09:17 AM EDT
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Took a look at the Jupiter Saturn merge in the sky before Christmas with my compact 8x Vortex binoculars. Swung my view over to the Seven Sisters. All my life I’ve looked at them, but never through a simple 8x optic. What a time to be alive my friends.

Liberty or Death.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:11:33 AM EDT
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I was living in Nepal in the ‘90s when the Maoists slowly took control. First on the village level then winning national elections. After they murdered the royal family, they assumed absolute power in the resulting political vacuum.

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My current boss is a very intelligent and practical electrical engineer (with people skills, even) that graduated from the USMA at West Point; an armor officer that did a tour in Afghanistan with the 1st Inf. Div as an infantry PL.  He really is an upright American with the same values many of us share here.  

He's also a student of history and out of the blue mentioned almost the exact same thing to me the other day during casual conversation on an unrelated topic.  He isn't the only one in uniform that has expressed the same concern to me.

50/50 odds shit gets real.  



Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:11:57 AM EDT
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I should move to Poland.
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They aren't the brains of the operation or the ones pulling the strings. They are just the pawns on the board, rest assured the power pieces will begin moving soon. Underestimating what is to come based off the composition of the useful idiots will prove to be extremely costly
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:17:54 AM EDT
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Spoilers? Am I the only one thinking a lot of people are reading this wrong and it is going to be turning out much differently than many in here think?
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:18:24 AM EDT
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I'll repost this; as America is unique in one way no other country in History is.  There are men here and there is a 2nd Amendment here.
We are simply allowing them some space -- for now.  
Until we dont.  
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The 2nd amendment doesn't give Americans anything Afghans or Iraqis lacked.

Edit: unless you count complacency, lol.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:21:43 AM EDT
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BTW, I'm sure I don't have to point out that literally millions of people will die in an American collapse, whether it goes hot or just economic failure. All those folks that are alive just because of drugs or other ongoing medical intervention? That's a whole lot of people. If the dollar falls for any reason, or if political violence goes mainstream and the supply chain collapses, those folks are going under.

And that loss itself will be a trigger point: "government must do something to help! we can't just let people die!" leading to more authoritarianism and more economic squeezing. See my earlier point about mediocre leaders responding in a reactionary, short-term way.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:27:55 AM EDT
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This...

There is a major difference between our situation and previous leftist genocides:  This is coming primarily from women and effeminize men.  No civilization can rule without the support of the warrior class and a strong majority of masculine men do not support the left's agenda.  Any crackdown is going to go sideways real fast.  They do not have the support of the police, fireman, construction workers, bikers, truckers, vets and active duty military and they are rapidly losing the unions.

We are the majority and they are afraid of us.  Their agenda is extremely unpopular outside of a handful of cities and a backlash is inevitable.  Once that backlash starts there is nothing they can do to stop it...
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And why it's imperative to emasculate those toxic males that were willing to break shit on 1/6.
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BTW, I'm sure I don't have to point out that literally millions of people will die in an American collapse, whether it goes hot or just economic failure. All those folks that are alive just because of drugs or other ongoing medical intervention? That's a whole lot of people. If the dollar falls for any reason, or if political violence goes mainstream and the supply chain collapses, those folks are going under.

And that loss itself will be a trigger point: "government must do something to help! we can't just let people die!" leading to more authoritarianism and more economic squeezing. See my earlier point about mediocre leaders responding in a reactionary, short-term way.
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Soviet collapse never went hot in most places. Civil wars were very localized and contained. Still the demographic impact of the nineties on the former Comstock countries was close to ww2 in scale.
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Maybe not.  We're still playing the hand.  We don't know the outcome.  There are many possible outcomes.

That is absolutely possible, though.
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The end of The Republic of the United States of America

Rise of the Marxist police state of the Woke Left


Maybe not.  We're still playing the hand.  We don't know the outcome.  There are many possible outcomes.

That is absolutely possible, though.

Correct... bu there is no denying that they are in deep control logistically.... the question remains on how much physical control they weild. With the current support from LE and military, that end does not look good for us. If they have that, they have all the marbles and our final options come down to 2 and we know what they are, because they are willing to exert that power.
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If everyone's worst fears are realize, I suspect there will be plenty of problems outside the US as well. Poland, while hardened by lessons of the past, has been one of the most invaded an occupied regions in history. Meanwhile despite all the human faults, the US still remains one of the most strategically favorable pieces of land in the world. We are bordered by vast oceans on two sides, and transoceanic incursions are very difficult to pull off. We possess vast stores of natural resources, have miles and miles of navigable rivers to transport goods (or weapons and troops), and a temperate climate conducive to mass production of food.
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BTW, I'm sure I don't have to point out that literally millions of people will die in an American collapse, whether it goes hot or just economic failure. All those folks that are alive just because of drugs or other ongoing medical intervention? That's a whole lot of people. If the dollar falls for any reason, or if political violence goes mainstream and the supply chain collapses, those folks are going under.

And that loss itself will be a trigger point: "government must do something to help! we can't just let people die!" leading to more authoritarianism and more economic squeezing. See my earlier point about mediocre leaders responding in a reactionary, short-term way.
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That's probably one of the major points to making "the system" collapse without having to go Stalin, Mao, or Khmer Rouge, on them.  They will die off without actually having to hands on death squads murdering them.
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I agree with the old saying, history may not repeat exactly, but it sure rhymes. The earlier poster who said Russia 1917 may have much truth. A major world power with awful corruption and inept leadership and significant income inequality, and a rising Socialist movement. Yeah, we got that. But we need a Franco. The White Russians got whipped in large part because they had no unity and no central leadership to rally support.
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White Russians lost on demographics. They never had the numbers. WW1 sealed Russians fate. An unnecessary pointless war. The communists were the only political faction in 1917 that was unilaterally against the war. They had enormous popular support for ending the war, especially with the rank and file military.
Link Posted: 1/28/2021 12:37:47 AM EDT
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We have them surrounded.

It’s all in your perspective.
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Honestly, the people at the top don't care.  They've got theirs, and they think they will get more.  It's the useful idiots below them who think "we're the people we've been waiting for."  "Yeah, this time Naziism will work.  It was just the wrong people the last time."
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The people at the top understand they they get to fully institutionalize their criminal cabal.
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Maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm praying that with the warp speed Biden/Dems/Libtards are unraveling this country... that next elections (mid-term in 2 or presidential in 4) people just vote them out and/or finally push back on the election fraud...when they realize they were sold a bunch of crap
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White Russians lost on demographics. They never had the numbers. WW1 sealed Russia's fate. An unnecessary pointless war. The communists were the only political faction in 1917 that was unilaterally against the war. They had enormous popular support for ending the war, especially with the rank and file military.
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Early 20th century Russia is a great example of mediocre leadership in challenging circumstances leading to bad outcomes. Russo-Japanese war? Damn, the Czar was inept. And there wasn't even a good reason for Russia to get in the mess of WWI Again, a series of events that were not all that related or organized, with an outcome in major, catastrophic upheaval and social change.
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Early 20th century Russia is a great example of mediocre leadership in challenging circumstances leading to bad outcomes. Russo-Japanese war? Damn, the Czar was inept. And there wasn't even a good reason for Russia to get in the mess of WWI Again, a series of events that were not all that related or organized, with an outcome in major, catastrophic upheaval and social change.
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White Russians lost on demographics. They never had the numbers. WW1 sealed Russia's fate. An unnecessary pointless war. The communists were the only political faction in 1917 that was unilaterally against the war. They had enormous popular support for ending the war, especially with the rank and file military.

Early 20th century Russia is a great example of mediocre leadership in challenging circumstances leading to bad outcomes. Russo-Japanese war? Damn, the Czar was inept. And there wasn't even a good reason for Russia to get in the mess of WWI Again, a series of events that were not all that related or organized, with an outcome in major, catastrophic upheaval and social change.
Nicholas the II never wanted to rule and wanted to abdicate the throne. So i am in agreement with you here.

There were strong smart leaders in russia in the begging of the 20th century. One of them Sergei Witte, had a chance to take over the empire. He declined. The problems were too great and the solution were too bloody.
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Honestly, I'm not a fan.

US Culture, and truly civilization a whole, looks like it peaked in the late 90s and we're just in for a downward slide until death.

Things were always getting better every year the first two decades of my life but since ~2000 everything has stayed the same or gotten worse. Cosmetic changes and variety, but that's it. We're stuck.
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Look at who was in power four, five years prior and connect the dots.

Hint: The Left has the Long View.
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