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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:05:37 PM EDT
[#1]
Should a woman rule out any man as a potentual husband if he makes a move on the first date ?
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:05:41 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: sex is a biological impulse and desire. it doesn't matter "what date" it occurred on. her "getting to know you" doesn't make her want to fuck you. she wants to fuck, because she wants to fuck. the right guy at the right time. has no bearing on potential marriage at all. sex is biological and in all animals drives. however, your dog does not give a shit if the bitch down the street fucks other dogs, while most men care greatly if their wife fucks other guys. sex is biological, but to a huge degree modesty, and self control are learned behaviors, and the kinds of things that determine if a relationship is successful, or if they will be fucking other guys while your married, or doing other bad things because they have poor impulse control.. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:05:55 PM EDT
[#3]
Yup. Did.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:06:53 PM EDT
[#4]
IDK.
Guess I'd be more concern with how many times she's done it in the past... My wife and I didn't, but we've been together nearly 16 years or so. Married for over twelve. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:07:27 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: how about the number of sex partners? I would be less concerned with the total number and more concerned with how many of those guys were boyfriends with whom she was in a monogamous relationship versus random ONSs or short-term fuckbuddies. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:07:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is this sex you speak of? found the married guy 
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:08:43 PM EDT
[#7]
Last weekend, I was visiting a good friend I knew from High School. We'll call him "Joe"
He is now married, and recently married a girl we knew from way back then. Back in those days, he and I used to absolutely slay the ladies. So we were recounting an episode where I was hanging out at some chick's house with her best friend, and one of my friends. Drinking beer, waiting for things to eventually "happen." Suddenly, "Joe" appears at the patio door with more beer. That made the count two chicks and three dudes. The guy who had arrived there with me earlier in the evening laughed it off, put on his jacket, bid the ladies goodnight, and left. He knew that once Joe showed up, he never stood a chance. Fast forward to last weekend, as we were retelling this old story, we start to remember that one of the girls in the story was actually Joe's new wife. For an awkward moment, we couldn't remember which girl she was in the story. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:09:17 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ...im still in the second long term relationship where i didnt have sex early, been going strong for almost 10 years now, been engaged for 5 years. https://media.giphy.com/media/pPhyAv5t9V8djyRFJH/giphy.gif apparently no ones in a hurry, but were both happy.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:11:11 PM EDT
[#9]
What on Earth do we need morals for anyway? I mean the trans movement and pedophilia are taking us to total freedom from that oppressive antiquated Christian based belief system.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:11:17 PM EDT
[#10]
I don't think that would factor into my decision, either positively or negatively.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:12:23 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be less concerned with the total number and more concerned with how many of those guys were boyfriends with whom she was in a monogamous relationship versus random ONSs or short-term fuckbuddies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: how about the number of sex partners? I would be less concerned with the total number and more concerned with how many of those guys were boyfriends with whom she was in a monogamous relationship versus random ONSs or short-term fuckbuddies. you cant get high sex partner numbers AND have serious relationships at the same time. Not without breaking some other kind of taboo. i would have a big issue with a woman who went thru swinger / open relationships as well, or wanted to. you cant be committed and have other sex partners, and if you do, your commitment is flawed. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:12:42 PM EDT
[#12]
Sorry, I'm in the doubtful. If she will go down with you on the first date, she probably has done it quite often before and will most likely do it again. Yes, I am a late model boomer.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:12:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let Captain Kirk go where no man has gone before. I don’t need to be first, I just want to be last. Liking sex doesn’t imply lack of self respect, except for simps and incels. A person with no self respect will have a fucked up sex life whether they have one partner or a hundred. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Absolutely not....I want someone who respects themselves and also you never buy a rental car. She probably has tattoos also Let Captain Kirk go where no man has gone before. I don’t need to be first, I just want to be last. Liking sex doesn’t imply lack of self respect, except for simps and incels. A person with no self respect will have a fucked up sex life whether they have one partner or a hundred. A key that opens all locks is useful, while a lock that can be opened by all keys is not |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:14:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you guys really over think this stuff. This. I have had two longterm (1yr plus) relationships in my life. First one included sex on the first date. We were together 5-6 years and almost got married. Second one was a girl I went out on two dates with (no sex), got "friendzoned", pursued other options while hanging out with her on occasion. After roughly a year we were on a camping trip, had too much to drink, did what drunk girl and guy do and on the way home decided "well, I guess we are dating now". Been together 21 years now. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:14:14 PM EDT
[#15]
I learned the answer is no.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:15:10 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: you cant get high sex partner numbers AND have serious relationships at the same time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: how about the number of sex partners? I would be less concerned with the total number and more concerned with how many of those guys were boyfriends with whom she was in a monogamous relationship versus random ONSs or short-term fuckbuddies. you cant get high sex partner numbers AND have serious relationships at the same time. Right; I didn't say "total number doesn't count." Hypothetically, someone who has had 10 sexual partners in the past 5 years and they were all a boyfriend with whom she was in a committed monogamous relationship doesn't raise nearly as many red flags as someone who has had 10 sexual partners in the past 5 years but they were all ONS or fuckbuddies. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:15:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:15:59 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A key that opens all locks is useful, while a lock that can be opened by all keys is not Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Absolutely not....I want someone who respects themselves and also you never buy a rental car. She probably has tattoos also Let Captain Kirk go where no man has gone before. I don’t need to be first, I just want to be last. Liking sex doesn’t imply lack of self respect, except for simps and incels. A person with no self respect will have a fucked up sex life whether they have one partner or a hundred. A key that opens all locks is useful, while a lock that can be opened by all keys is not Your metaphor, while poetic, has questionable applicability to reality. A lock is related to security. If the lock in your metaphor is the same, perhaps it’s you, not your partner, with self respect issues... |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:16:17 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be less concerned with the total number and more concerned with how many of those guys were boyfriends with whom she was in a monogamous relationship versus random ONSs or short-term fuckbuddies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: how about the number of sex partners? I would be less concerned with the total number and more concerned with how many of those guys were boyfriends with whom she was in a monogamous relationship versus random ONSs or short-term fuckbuddies. You also get to a point with diminishing returns. Amount of partners over the course of time gives you an efficient frontier of what makes a good wife. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:17:03 PM EDT
[#20]
In this thread, we see those poor souls who have never found themselves in an uncontrollable, passionate, heat of the moment encounter.
That IS how it works, when both parties are attractive and possess a mutual degree of sex appeal. I feel sorry for those who never knew such moments. They just get to watch it on TV and read about it in books. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:17:06 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Right; I didn't say "total number doesn't count." Hypothetically, someone who has had 10 sexual partners in the past 5 years and they were all a boyfriend with whom she was in a committed monogamous relationship doesn't raise nearly as many red flags as someone who has had 10 sexual partners in the past 5 years but they were all ONS or fuckbuddies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: how about the number of sex partners? I would be less concerned with the total number and more concerned with how many of those guys were boyfriends with whom she was in a monogamous relationship versus random ONSs or short-term fuckbuddies. you cant get high sex partner numbers AND have serious relationships at the same time. Right; I didn't say "total number doesn't count." Hypothetically, someone who has had 10 sexual partners in the past 5 years and they were all a boyfriend with whom she was in a committed monogamous relationship doesn't raise nearly as many red flags as someone who has had 10 sexual partners in the past 5 years but they were all ONS or fuckbuddies. i agree. anyone who has had a shitload of very short relationships in a short period is a red flag as well, for entirely different reasons.. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:17:55 PM EDT
[#22]
Why did YOU have sex with HER on the first date if it is an issue for you?
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:17:57 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your metaphor, while poetic, has questionable applicability to reality. A lock is related to security. If the lock in your metaphor is the same, perhaps it’s you, not your partner, with self respect issues... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Absolutely not....I want someone who respects themselves and also you never buy a rental car. She probably has tattoos also Let Captain Kirk go where no man has gone before. I don’t need to be first, I just want to be last. Liking sex doesn’t imply lack of self respect, except for simps and incels. A person with no self respect will have a fucked up sex life whether they have one partner or a hundred. A key that opens all locks is useful, while a lock that can be opened by all keys is not Your metaphor, while poetic, has questionable applicability to reality. A lock is related to security. If the lock in your metaphor is the same, perhaps it’s you, not your partner, with self respect issues... Using the key which unlocks all locks to unlock locks is akin to breaking and entering. You must show restraint. Treat your essence with value young king. Yes a lock is related to security, just like emotional security. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:18:36 PM EDT
[#24]
If she's having sex with you on the first date, you're also having sex with her on the first date.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:19:09 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What on Earth do we need morals for anyway? I mean the trans movement and pedophilia are taking us to total freedom from that oppressive antiquated Christian based belief system. 
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:19:40 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread, we see those poor souls who have never found themselves in an uncontrollable, passionate, heat of the moment encounter. That IS how it works, when both parties are attractive and possess a mutual degree of sex appeal. I feel sorry for those who never knew such moments. They just get to watch it on TV and read about it in books. We are not primates, we have a higher level of consciousness. A relationship should be like a fire, one that is stoked and taken care of, therefore making it grow larger and larger as time passes. a heat of the moment, is all that it is, it's a moment, it doesn't transgress time and space. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:20:05 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread, we see those poor souls who have never found themselves in an uncontrollable, passionate, heat of the moment encounter. That IS how it works, when both parties are attractive and possess a mutual degree of sex appeal. I feel sorry for those who never knew such moments. They just get to watch it on TV and read about it in books. King of the Romance Novels...hope you make lots of money |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:22:31 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm against marriage. monica.jpeg |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:22:40 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We are not primates, we have a higher level of consciousness. A relationship should be like a fire, one that is stoked and taken care of, therefore making it grow larger and larger as time passes. a heat of the moment, is all that it is, it's a moment, it doesn't transgress time and space. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this thread, we see those poor souls who have never found themselves in an uncontrollable, passionate, heat of the moment encounter. That IS how it works, when both parties are attractive and possess a mutual degree of sex appeal. I feel sorry for those who never knew such moments. They just get to watch it on TV and read about it in books. We are not primates, we have a higher level of consciousness. A relationship should be like a fire, one that is stoked and taken care of, therefore making it grow larger and larger as time passes. a heat of the moment, is all that it is, it's a moment, it doesn't transgress time and space. When you were young, single and in your prime, did you NOT want to have sex with hot chicks? Because for me, that was the driving force behind everything from age 15-21. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:23:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Does fucking on the first date make me less desirable as a man?
Because I only have double standards for situations like a male teacher preying on students. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:23:52 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: if a woman is extremely unlikely to have sex easily with a man, then when shes married shes also unlikely to easily cheat on her husband. LOL!! Reminds me. Had a bud on my first ship. Actually went to high school with him. He married a girl who at the time shit diamonds. They didn't have sex, she didn't smoke/drink/swear/ watch R rated movies went to church twice a week etc., etc.. My wife was good friends with her. 2 months after we left on deployment my buds wife had some Jody living in their house. People change. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:31:47 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What on Earth do we need morals for anyway? I mean the trans movement and pedophilia are taking us to total freedom from that oppressive antiquated Christian based belief system. When exactly did we have morals or find ourselves guided as a society by the Christian based belief system? This is a Christian asking the question by the way. The thought that there was ever a time when things were better, or more just, or the moral standard was higher on a societal level is revisionist history at best. Ignorance of history at worst. I know it is cynical, but too large a percentage of humans are total scum to ever tip the balance towards the concept of better times some people have around here. There has always been evil. There has always been strife. There has always been injustice. Name a time or era of moral superiority and I can give you a long list of terrible shit that outwardly righteous people were doing. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:34:21 PM EDT
[#33]
In general.... Would you marry a woman who has sex with you on the first date? Probably not. I’m not categorically opposed to same sex marriage, but it’s not for me. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:34:35 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Using the key which unlocks all locks to unlock locks is akin to breaking and entering. You must show restraint. Treat your essence with value young king. Yes a lock is related to security, just like emotional security. Like I said, if your emotional security is tied to that particular factor, it’s not your partner that has self respect issues. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:36:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When you were young, single and in your prime, did you NOT want to have sex with hot chicks? Because for me, that was the driving force behind everything from age 15-21. 
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:36:57 PM EDT
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That bum in my avatar (and all the rest of her) showed up at my door with a fifth of whiskey and two shot glasses. That was our first date.
We got drunk. And naked. She spent the night. But she would not have intercourse on the first date, although my penis was the only thing that did not penetrate her vagina. We are happily married today, 10 years later. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:37:03 PM EDT
[#37]
Girlfriend and I had sex within 10 minutes of seeing each other in person the first time. Six years later we still can't get enough of each other.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:38:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When you were young, single and in your prime, did you NOT want to have sex with hot chicks? Because for me, that was the driving force behind everything from age 15-21. What happened at 21 to suddenly throw you off your feed? |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:39:02 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: if a woman is extremely unlikely to have sex easily with a man, then when shes married shes also unlikely to easily cheat on her husband. The exact opposite is true. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:42:06 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What happened at 21 to suddenly throw you off your feed? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When you were young, single and in your prime, did you NOT want to have sex with hot chicks? Because for me, that was the driving force behind everything from age 15-21. What happened at 21 to suddenly throw you off your feed? I'd done so well for so long, that I had the luxury to gain greater perspective on the entire enterprise (insert story of young bull/old bull, walk/run). Also, those pursuits aligned well with everything else during those years. Do well in sports, go to good school, join Marines... all things which only facilitated greater opportunities. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:44:31 PM EDT
[#41]
Wife and I waited a few weeks and a few dates. We had met briefly, then talked a lot on the phone before going on a first date, and had gotten to know each other quite a bit from the conversations.
I think it worked out well. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:45:36 PM EDT
[#42]
3 pages. I'm sure I didn't make it in before I always waited at least 8 weeks and my 9 marriages have all been awesome.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:45:46 PM EDT
[#43]
I did, 21 years.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:47:24 PM EDT
[#44]
Already did. Going on 18 years.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:49:36 PM EDT
[#45]
I did, and we've been together for the last 27 years.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:49:42 PM EDT
[#46]
Sure.
I realize how irresistible I am. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:51:01 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure. I realize how irresistible I am. Username checks out.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:51:36 PM EDT
[#48]
Does she check all the boxes?
Can she shoot sub-MOA? Would give her serious consideration..... 
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:52:40 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We are not primates, we have a higher level of consciousness. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this thread, we see those poor souls who have never found themselves in an uncontrollable, passionate, heat of the moment encounter. That IS how it works, when both parties are attractive and possess a mutual degree of sex appeal. I feel sorry for those who never knew such moments. They just get to watch it on TV and read about it in books. We are not primates, we have a higher level of consciousness. Hey, DOJ, we found a SPECIES-IST!!!!!! ^^^^^ |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:54:04 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i agree. anyone who has had a shitload of very short relationships in a short period is a red flag as well, for entirely different reasons.. Sounds like you think sex=love in your ideal relationship. If that’s the way you’re programmed, I hope it works out for you. Personally, I have never asked or cared how many men a woman has been with. I don’t care about her past. I just care about my part in her future. If she acts like a looney toon, we part ways. If she reciprocates kindness, love and affection, I look forward to the next day with her. If she ever fails to have my back or puts me down, we part ways. If she builds me up and “gets me” we move forward. I look for ways to impress her every day. Just like I did when we met. The women guys on this site talk about who gets fat or stops putting out or taking care of themselves in some other way, are no different than their husbands. Passionate relationships take work on so many levels. How in the hell does having a good relationship have anything to do with your girlfriend/fiancé/wife’s past? Well...if your hung up about it, I guess it does. If you can let her biological need to have sex before you knew her go, it doesn’t matter a damn bit! |
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