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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:21:01 AM EDT
[#1]
Should have left WA completely IMO
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:30:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last week it was boycott Aero for moving, this week it’s buy Aero  I was just laughing at that. Errbody was pissed because they said "diversity". |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:31:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good...any recommendations on Aero parts etc ? I'll buy something just because. Aero M4E1 lower is fantastic...I have a whole Aero build and it is very nice. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:37:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:45:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: Tacoma's City Council didn't listen and passed the fees. Council Member Ryan Mello complained, "I think it is fundamentally unfair for all of us who are non-gun users to bare all of the burden of gun violence in our community." So, if they feel that way, does this not also stand true? "I think it is fundamentally unfair for all of us who are non-DRUG users to bare all of the burden of DRUG VIOLENCE AND MEDICAL ISSUES in our community." |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:46:46 AM EDT
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Really hope the EPC is going to also be .45 and not just 9mm
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:47:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:58:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good! Just hope not many lose their job over them moving. I doubt any of them will. It’s a 10 minute drive at best |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:01:52 PM EDT
[#9]
i was hoping they were gonna release the PCC they've been promising....
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:09:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Tacoma, WA makes me ashamed to own a Tacoma truck. Maybe I should debadge it.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:09:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we like Aero this week? Anyone who isn't a retard likes Aero. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:11:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who isn't a retard likes Aero. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So we like Aero this week? Anyone who isn't a retard likes Aero. I like Aero, but I am obligated to root for our home team. ???? |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:14:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish more companies would do things like this |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:19:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would have been $30k in extra (aka on top of what they already pay) taxes, now they get none from Aero. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ...was sold by officials to the public as a windfall, predicted to generate an extra $30,000 a year... That's a huge loss for Tacoma whose council members were looking for $30,000 in extra taxes. If my google-fu is functioning, it looks like the annual budget for the City of Tacoma, WA for 2019-2020 was $3.5 BILLION. I don't understand how $30K can be a windfall or a huge loss. It seems like it would be a rounding error at best. https://cms.cityoftacoma.org/finance/budget/2019-2020/2019-2020%20Adopted%20Budget%20Book.pdf It would have been $30k in extra (aka on top of what they already pay) taxes, now they get none from Aero. For a city with a budget of $3.5 BILLION, $30K in extra taxes hardly seems like a windfall or a huge loss for them. It is literally 0.00086% of their budget. If you had an annual salary of $200,000 and got a bonus of $1.71 (0.00086%), would you consider that a windfall? If your $200,000 annual salary was cut by the same $1.71 (0.00086%), would you consider it a huge loss? Besides, they should have a rainy day or general fund to cover minor, unexpected shortfalls or as a place to store unexpected overages until the next budget cycle. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:19:35 PM EDT
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The tax increase, ..., was sold by officials to the public as a windfall, predicted to generate an extra $30,000 a year to "provide public benefit to residents of Tacoma related to gun violence" A. Good for Aero B. What a load of bullshit. $30,000 is a windfall  , it's a piss in the ocean compared to the city budget. If they let the gangbangers exsanguinate instead of paying for the ER they could save a hell of a lot more than that. And prevent a lot of future shootings. Not to mention cutting Narcan out of the budget.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:22:25 PM EDT
[#16]
Good, b/c f*ck the politicians of Tacoma.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:22:36 PM EDT
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Doesn't like the politics in Tacoma, which is taking over Washington state.
Builds new facility in Washington state. Not very insightful on predicting the future, but it's their company. For the record, I like AP products, I just think this is a bad move. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:23:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:24:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aero M4E1 lower is fantastic...I have a whole Aero build and it is very nice. I think it looks great and the fit and finish is excellent. It has a threaded pin for the bolt catch and the rear take down pin detent is tapped for a screw. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:28:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If my google-fu is functioning, it looks like the annual budget for the City of Tacoma, WA for 2019-2020 was $3.5 BILLION. I don't understand how $30K can be a windfall or a huge loss. It seems like it would be a rounding error at best. https://cms.cityoftacoma.org/finance/budget/2019-2020/2019-2020%20Adopted%20Budget%20Book.pdf Quote HistoryQuoted: ...was sold by officials to the public as a windfall, predicted to generate an extra $30,000 a year... That's a huge loss for Tacoma whose council members were looking for $30,000 in extra taxes. If my google-fu is functioning, it looks like the annual budget for the City of Tacoma, WA for 2019-2020 was $3.5 BILLION. I don't understand how $30K can be a windfall or a huge loss. It seems like it would be a rounding error at best. https://cms.cityoftacoma.org/finance/budget/2019-2020/2019-2020%20Adopted%20Budget%20Book.pdf Chip, chip, chipping away at that tax base... Take that 30k and add all of the sales tax lost from the businesses that have lost massive amounts of revenue or gone completely out of business (sales and property taxes) due to covid to get a better picture of the current tax intake of Tacoma. Cities, states, and even the fedgov will feel the repercussions from this very soon. The fedgov will continue to print themselves out of their problem, but it may be different for states and cities. Their money will be more finite and losses will show, even with bailouts. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:32:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: they are just moving down the road, they were almost in Lakewood already Downtown Tacoma isn't "almost lakewood". It's not a far drive though. 10 minutes or so on I5 to the new location, iirc. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:34:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish more companies would do things like this We have come a long way from the days of Bill Ruger. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:36:12 PM EDT
[#23]
If they were smart they'd get the Fuck outta washington.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:40:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aero is primarily an aerospace company.....gun parts were/are a sideline biz. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:44:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For a city with a budget of $3.5 BILLION, $30K in extra taxes hardly seems like a windfall or a huge loss for them. It is literally 0.00086% of their budget. If you had an annual salary of $200,000 and got a bonus of $1.71 (0.00086%), would you consider that a windfall? If your $200,000 annual salary was cut by the same $1.71 (0.00086%), would you consider it a huge loss? Besides, they should have a rainy day or general fund to cover minor, unexpected shortfalls or as a place to store unexpected overages until the next budget cycle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: ...was sold by officials to the public as a windfall, predicted to generate an extra $30,000 a year... That's a huge loss for Tacoma whose council members were looking for $30,000 in extra taxes. If my google-fu is functioning, it looks like the annual budget for the City of Tacoma, WA for 2019-2020 was $3.5 BILLION. I don't understand how $30K can be a windfall or a huge loss. It seems like it would be a rounding error at best. https://cms.cityoftacoma.org/finance/budget/2019-2020/2019-2020%20Adopted%20Budget%20Book.pdf It would have been $30k in extra (aka on top of what they already pay) taxes, now they get none from Aero. For a city with a budget of $3.5 BILLION, $30K in extra taxes hardly seems like a windfall or a huge loss for them. It is literally 0.00086% of their budget. If you had an annual salary of $200,000 and got a bonus of $1.71 (0.00086%), would you consider that a windfall? If your $200,000 annual salary was cut by the same $1.71 (0.00086%), would you consider it a huge loss? Besides, they should have a rainy day or general fund to cover minor, unexpected shortfalls or as a place to store unexpected overages until the next budget cycle. So now take a look at how much Aero was paying. They took a stance and stuck with it, would you rather they just, comply? Money talks and bullshit walks and Aero took their money and business elsewhere. Doesn’t matter if it is $30k extra or a dollar extra, it was principle and Aero was not going to just do what others do about talking a big game and then in the end doing nothing about it. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:46:04 PM EDT
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Tacoma expected a windfall of $30,000. At $25 per firearm, thats only 1,200 guns.
I think the math here is way off. But commies arent known for their math skills. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:46:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they were smart they'd get the Fuck outta washington. True but the problem in WA is the same as in OR and CO where only a small amount of land size is ruining the majority of the state. Maybe they are trying to fight instead of running away? |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:54:16 PM EDT
[#28]
And just like that I am “forced” to spend money with Aero
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Posted: 1/27/2021 12:56:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So they lost out on corporate taxes to not even generate enough extra tax to pay for the annual wage for a cop. I don't think many of their lawmakers took intro to economics. Yeah, well they are communists so... |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:00:54 PM EDT
[#30]
PTR moved out of Connecticut and to SC after all the fallout from the Sandy Hook shooting. But mention PTR around HK Fanbois and there is no support for a company that stood their ground. it's the main reason I went PTR and not one of the imports.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:03:54 PM EDT
[#31]
Now if they'd just get some slick side uppers out...
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:13:33 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This post didnt include Aero's letter about diversity and inclusion. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Last week it was boycott Aero for moving, this week it’s buy Aero This post didnt include Aero's letter about diversity and inclusion. People worried about that letter are dumb. Washington state is facing a tidal wave of gun control. We are trying to use the left’s words against them. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:14:13 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they were smart they'd get the Fuck outta washington. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:22:38 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are becoming hard to find these days. We had a red wave here in November. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:27:42 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tacoma, WA makes me ashamed to own a Tacoma truck. Maybe I should debadge it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:28:51 PM EDT
[#36]
What the actual fuck. I had NO IDEA Aero was that big!
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:32:11 PM EDT
[#37]
So we have them and Barrett (who doesn't make anything at all for the poors) that have actually put their money where there mouth is?
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:34:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Aero is awesome.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:42:11 PM EDT
[#39]
Better than nothing, but should have left the state completely
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:49:37 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People worried about that letter are dumb. Washington state is facing a title wave of gun control. We are trying to use the left’s words against them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Last week it was boycott Aero for moving, this week it’s buy Aero This post didnt include Aero's letter about diversity and inclusion. People worried about that letter are dumb. Washington state is facing a title wave of gun control. We are trying to use the left’s words against them. The 4D Chess and all that is hard to comprehend for those who think 2D. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:51:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool story and all but...if they were smart they would pack up and leave the state. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:54:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last week it was boycott Aero for moving, this week it’s buy Aero Kneejerk reaction from arfcom GD. $$$ was always the reason. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:59:17 PM EDT
[#43]
Council Member Ryan Mello complained, "I think it is fundamentally unfair for all of us who are non-gun users to bare all of the burden of gun violence in our community." Um, I have no kids but my tax money goes to educate everyones kids. That is fundamentally unfair but I prefer that then people having dumb kids... |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:00:39 PM EDT
[#44]
Now go place an order with Aero.
Moving ain’t cheap. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:02:13 PM EDT
[#45]
Ummmm... they’re in Washington. That is like saying you’re leaving Beijing for Wuhan.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:02:44 PM EDT
[#46]
Good for them.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:05:11 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just laughing at that. Errbody was pissed because they said "diversity". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Last week it was boycott Aero for moving, this week it’s buy Aero I was just laughing at that. Errbody was pissed because they said "diversity". Yup, it’s all in how the story is spun. The masses (even on here) are easily swayed to one side or the other based on how the story is told, despite the fact that it’s the same story at the core just spun positively or negatively. This is how the media controls people by getting them hung up or spun up on a detail rather than the core of the issue. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GD is fickle. We'll hate them again next week. Ain’t that the truth. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:24:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This post didnt include Aero's letter about diversity and inclusion. GD is famous for its short attention span and reactionary back and forth. In an ever changing world it’s nice to know that some things stay the same. 
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Posted: 1/27/2021 2:29:32 PM EDT
[#50]
 Did I make it in before the GD 'tards criticize them for moving to Washington like the other thread? |
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