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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:52:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unenforceable. And illegal. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:54:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who spouts this gunshow loophole BS is, to quote L Neil Smith, stupid, insane, or evil. Those are the only options. Edit: He could ACTUALLY make a dent in gun violence by directing the ATFE to investigate denied purchases, and suspected straw purchases, but that road seriously does not lead where they want it to go. Would require dems getting arrested and convicted. 
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:54:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck those that did not vote for Trump because "of my toy bumpstock". Fools. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:08:49 PM EDT
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It's good I sold all of mine at gun shows years ago. And I got a really shity memory for names, I don't remember who I sold them to.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:33:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: ABC reporter asked about the Joe Biden promise to close the "gun show loophole" on day 1. Susan rice responded by saying expect EO's on "gun violence prevention" in the next week. There you have it GD. Mandatory background checks in all states, on all firearm sales, by the stroke of a pen. You better have your seatbelt on for the ride. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:38:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. I think that is clearly an infringement and this a violation of the 2A. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 12:00:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fools. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fuck those that did not vote for Trump because "of my toy bumpstock". Fools. Trump is why we have Biden. Thanks for voting booth of them in. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:32:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's good I sold all of mine at gun shows years ago. And I got a really shity memory for names, I don't remember who I sold them to. Yeah, that's good. Because if they just blanket make ownership of particular guns a felony, it simply won't matter. If you have the gun in your closet or buried in your back yard, felony, prison. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:43:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, you will catch major shit for that Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. Rightfully so. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:49:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some states allow a CCW and a FTF sale to bypass NICS. They will end that soon. Some states allow FTF transactions. Like WI. No CCW or other needed. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:54:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck those that did not vote for Trump because "of my toy bumpstock". But .... but .... but ..... muh bumpstocks! There's no difference between Trump and Biden. GD told me so. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:03:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But .... but .... but ..... muh bumpstocks! There's no difference between Trump and Biden. GD told me so. after LV i wonder what Hillary or Biden would have done. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:07:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: only the extremists, and everything is either black or white dudes. after LV i wonder what Hillary or Biden would have done. I understand the serious problem with trump opening the door to banning gun accessories through executive order. Mags, parts kits, etc. It's bad. The choice was to support something much much worse, or support something not as bad. Supporting nothing is allowing something much much worse. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:41:07 AM EDT
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No authority to do it..
If he does it anyway, gun sales will be just like drug sales, in dark alleys. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:45:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: or make background checks free online. You'd get a LOT more buy-in from people if it was a 2 minute free online process. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. or make background checks free online. You'd get a LOT more buy-in from people if it was a 2 minute free online process. not from me. as soon as they make in mandatory with an online option, they will then take away the online option. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 10:50:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some states allow FTF transactions. Like WI. No CCW or other needed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Some states allow a CCW and a FTF sale to bypass NICS. They will end that soon. Some states allow FTF transactions. Like WI. No CCW or other needed. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 11:42:39 AM EDT
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How about "machine parts?"
How would they know if I traded a piece of metal for a pot of beans? or a piece of printed paper? or a bag full of stamped metal disks? Or a days labor? You know drugs are illegal and they are sold everyday, often quite openly. Don't buy into the bullshit. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 11:49:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. Until "they" want to change it to something unreasonable. Take a lesson from Canada, IIRC they had gun registration. It failed because of non-compliance. Still was a PITA though. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 11:51:33 AM EDT
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In before Texas judge smacks him down.
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Posted: 1/28/2021 12:11:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/28/2021 1:25:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck those that did not vote for Trump because "of my toy bumpstock". No. Fuck Trump for banning bumpstocks. Actions have consequences. Obama tried to regulate bumpstocks twice and failed. Trump's ego pushed him to be successful on an Obama failure. Put the blame where it belongs. But I'm guessing you're one of those that is OK with getting fucked as long as it's our guys fucking us. Amirite? |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 1:32:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. I'm not sure about the stats but I'm pretty sure criminals get their guns from stealing them, buying stolen guns, or straw purchases in that order. I'm sure f2f transactions by prohibited persons occur but not to the extinct that warrants this incursion against our freedom. Some quotes for you to chew on: The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. --Benjamin Franklin |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 4:38:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Fuck Trump for banning bumpstocks. Actions have consequences. Obama tried to regulate bumpstocks twice and failed. Trump's ego pushed him to be successful on an Obama failure. Put the blame where it belongs. But I'm guessing you're one of those that is OK with getting fucked as long as it's our guys fucking us. Amirite? That might be the case, and I try to never underestimate trumps ego. But this was immediately after a guy in vegas used a bumpstock to rain bullets down into a packed outdoor event. People were freaking the fuck out. I think it is probable that trump figured he was throwing them a bone and actually had no idea this act was opening pandoras box on the second amendment. All academic now. He did it. He banned a gun accessory. There are lots and lots of gun accessories. Some are kind of important. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 4:45:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Fuck Trump for banning bumpstocks. Actions have consequences. Obama tried to regulate bumpstocks twice and failed. Trump's ego pushed him to be successful on an Obama failure. Put the blame where it belongs. But I'm guessing you're one of those that is OK with getting fucked as long as it's our guys fucking us. Amirite? So you voted for Biden because of bumpstocks? It's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see how it plays out for em'. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 4:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's going to do what he wants and no one will stop him. We're in a post-coup country now. |
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Posted: 2/1/2021 9:45:08 PM EDT
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Soon chinese troops will go door to door rounding them up.
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Posted: 2/1/2021 11:18:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fuck those that did not vote for Trump because "of my toy bumpstock". /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/yQOEgRw-67.gif You looking to be put on so many ignore lists around here here that you will soon be talking to yourself? https://drandalls.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/234erg.jpg Trump laced that boot, and everyone cheered him on. Sad. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:05:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Soon chinese troops will go door to door rounding them up. Im not saying that would be game on but if that were to happen I think it would be game on. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:16:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck those that did not vote for Trump because "of my toy bumpstock". Half of GD, most of the older members, and a couple mods lol Everyone who ever started a post out by saying "Now i voted for Trump, but. . " |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:24:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. Also affects you gifting a gun to your dad, son, wife. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:27:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Half of GD, most of the older members, and a couple mods lol Everyone who ever started a post out by saying "Now i voted for Trump, but. . " Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fuck those that did not vote for Trump because "of my toy bumpstock". Half of GD, most of the older members, and a couple mods lol Everyone who ever started a post out by saying "Now i voted for Trump, but. . " God forbid we criticize our elected officials when they fuck up |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:27:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, you will catch major shit for that Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. Well he should. Being ignorant, uneducated, and/or stupid should have consequences. Maybe he should try to find the "common sense infringements" clause in the Constitution and get back to us after a little research. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:35:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That had to be handled at the state level. Or get Congress to enact federal law. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Of course he can do that....Cuomo did it years ago That had to be handled at the state level. Or get Congress to enact federal law. I think were in a post constitutional area where their going to throw it aganist the wall so fast you won't be able to figure what's happening and most will stick. 
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:37:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:39:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck those that did not vote for Trump because "of my toy bumpstock". Seems you missed all that documented vote fraud. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:42:25 AM EDT
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who cares...
write ur reps and senators - call them. don’t comply. line in the sand is yesterday |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:46:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: UBC is unenforceable without registration Not so. If you have a firearm made after a certain date, and there isnt a form 4473 on file for it that you filled out, then you must have bought a firearm without a background check |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:46:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I couldn't care less about paperwork and safe storage and even the tax stamp thing is doable. To me the line is crossed is if we stop online sales of ammo and firearms because that will end the hobby for good. OK I revise this: Pinning stocks and magazines Commufornia style would also piss me off :-) $200 stamp on every "assault " rifle you own and every magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, would be okay with you? Not me! |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:47:17 AM EDT
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No, just no. Anything else I may say could get my young virgin account locked
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:47:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. The problem with your thinking is your worried about a very minor problem being cured by government knowing where all fire arms are. Which is a major problem for ones freedom.
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:49:58 AM EDT
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Where can you buy a gun without a background check? I’m in Texas and you have to do a background check at gun shows.
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:50:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I couldn't care less about paperwork and safe storage and even the tax stamp thing is doable. To me the line is crossed is if we stop online sales of ammo and firearms because that will end the hobby for good. OK I revise this: Pinning stocks and magazines Commufornia style would also piss me off :-) No to all of it. Maybe you enjoy the taste of boot....i don't. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:53:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So Biden is about to take a page out of the Trump playbook, and you STILL think people were pissed about the bumpstocks? JFC Yea Trumps the one that opened this door 
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:53:33 AM EDT
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I guess I am okay with none of the BS they want to do. If you are a criminal and would fail a background check and get caught committing a crime with a gun....you get life, don't care. If it was clear case of self defense then I have no problem, probably did everyone a favor. If you get caught with a gun and are a felon; examine rap sheet, and if any other crime was committed after the felony then 20 years and no less. If they hadn't committed a crime beside having a gun then you get the ankle monitor treatment for a year.
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:54:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. First of all, most guns are obtained by criminals who aren't allowed to buy guns themselves, through straw purchases. They have a gang member or a girlfriend who doesn't have a record buy it for them. Secondly you don't think that they want background checks because they're going to wipe the data at the end of the day do you? They're going to keep that for de facto registration. Then when they want to claim you have to turn in every gun you own they know where to look. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:55:02 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I couldn't care less about paperwork and safe storage and even the tax stamp thing is doable. To me the line is crossed is if we stop online sales of ammo and firearms because that will end the hobby for good. OK I revise this: Pinning stocks and magazines Commufornia style would also piss me off :-) Hobby? You think the 2nd amendment is a hobby. Lol. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:57:47 AM EDT
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Not my President.....so fuck him!
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:57:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time. But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists. I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me. Making the law abiding jump through more hoops does nothing to curtail criminal activity. Criminals steal guns. Should we make the process of selling cars or bats more arduous because criminals steal and use them for crimes and harm as well? |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 12:59:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quite true, and we will pass a bill in this state that prohibits cooperation with the feds to enforce federal gun laws. Joe can suck a dick. Let's hope so. We'll be seeing whether Gianforte is a billionaire globalist, or truly understands why the red tsunami swept this state in Nov. I wanna see the entire region tell joe to fuck off. |
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