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It absolutely blows my mind hearing and reading people say things like “we’ll vote them out come 2022.”

LOL, uh no you will not.

If you lived up until this very day and have not realized the following as the truth, you are a moron.

1. There are only a couple of Republicans and Democrats. The rest are the single Government Party.
2. Elections are rigged, bought and paid for. You saw it happen in real time and every single check and balance that should have stopped it turned it’s head to the crime.
3. If you don’t know what 5th Generation Warfare is, you better start learning.

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First off, anyone who says 'America isn't a Democracy, it's a Republic' is a liar and a fool. The President isn't chosen by the percentage of the popular vote, but that's about it. In every other way, America is a majority rule nation. So, the "republic" shit is old, tired and worn out. Take that up the road.

This is a question that I think should be discussed. It is the most fundamental question, in many ways. Do you have faith in American "Democracy?"

Do you believe that your voice matters?

Do you believe that we have a government of, by and for The People? And I want to expound on this. If you say that we no longer have a government of, by and for The People, think about this...is it because your boy lost, or do you really think that the government is no longer adherent to The People? If you really believe the Government is no longer Adherent to The People, then please, I would like to know why.

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"...and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands..."

In a pure democracy, majority rules.  51% can vote to murder 49% and it's "legal".  In our constitutional republic, there are limits on what voters can do.

But to answer your question, no, I don't trust that our voting system works as intended, and I don't trust that elected officials intend to represent my interests in government.

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First off, anyone who says 'America isn't a Democracy, it's a Republic' is a liar and a fool. The President isn't chosen by the percentage of the popular vote, but that's about it. In every other way, America is a majority rule nation. So, the "republic" shit is old, tired and worn out. Take that up the road.

This is a question that I think should be discussed. It is the most fundamental question, in many ways. Do you have faith in American "Democracy?"

Do you believe that your voice matters?

Do you believe that we have a government of, by and for The People? And I want to expound on this. If you say that we no longer have a government of, by and for The People, think about this...is it because your boy lost, or do you really think that the government is no longer adherent to The People? If you really believe the Government is no longer Adherent to The People, then please, I would like to know why.

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My boy didn’t lose.

The democrats cheated and the courts turned a blind eye to it and to the violation of the constitution.

We no longer have fair elections nor do we have a constitution. No constitution, no fair courts, no laws.

This isn’t America anymore. It’s a post-American state, reminiscent of a banana republic.

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I answered no and I am now firmly in the camp that democracy or democratic voting is a mistake.  In its current form it's nothing more than a smokescreen to cover the oligarchy that actually controls the country.  Those people who have enough power to shape the opinion of the masses are able to decide who gets elected as politicians.  The politicians are nothing more than proxies for special interests which are dictated by the larger corporations and foreign governments.

Democracy has had a disastrous effect on all Americans.  It has created division and infighting within our communities and even our families.  Instead of being one nation and all of us Americans first, we are divided by identity politics and political ideology.

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Nice story but Trump didn’t lose and that was the final nail.

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Most of the people on Arfcom are not moral and religious.

Look at this thread where people jump in and speculate about the cause of a fallen nation while ignoring the true cause that even one of our founding fathers admitted is the greatest danger to our form of government.

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I will tell you the truth about my position.

I no longer believe that we have a government of, by and for The People. I do not feel this way because Trump lost. To be 100% honest, I voted for Trump in 2016 and in 2020, and I feel that Biden's presidency is going to be a disaster. With that said, I did not lose faith in American "Democracy" because Trump lost. I lost faith in American "democracy" many years ago.

Back in 2010, I didn't bother to vote. I sat it out on purpose and I made it known to everyone I could that I was not voting in protest. I have voted in every other election since I turned 18. I voted in Presidential and Midterm elections, except for 2010. I truly believe that Boner and Obama were two sides of the same wooden nickel and I didn't want to have any part of either.

But, as I said, it wasn't Trump losing that made me believe that American "Democracy" is a joke. It was actually a Tea Party representative that I can't even remember. This was a guy who was full of piss and vinegar, got elected in the 2010 election to set things in Washington aright. I can't remember his name. I can't remember where he was from (I think it was the midwest). But, I remember that he spilled The Beans. This was a guy who got about a week's worth of airtime on Right Wing news and radio outlets because he told about what happened at his induction meeting. He said that what happened was all the freshman Republicans were sat down and told what The Score is; if you want to be on a committee, then you need to contribute some big dollars to The Party. It was $150,000 to be on this committee, and $200,000 to be on that committee and if you wanted to really swing your dick, then you needed to contribute $250,000 for the top committees. When he asked how they were supposed to get that kind of jack, the answer was to hold fundraisers with lobbyists.

When I was a kid, my Grandma (who wasn't particularly political) always used to say 'Even if they elect an honest man, they get their hooks in him and make him a dishonest man!' That little representative, from God only knows where, convinced me that Grandma was right.

And that is why I don't believe in American "Democracy."

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It absolutely blows my mind hearing and reading people say things like “we’ll vote them out come 2022.”

LOL, uh no you will not.

If you lived up until this very day and have not realized the following as the truth, you are a moron.

1. There are only a couple of Republicans and Democrats. The rest are the single Government Party.
2. Elections are rigged, bought and paid for. You saw it happen in real time and every single check and balance that should have stopped it turned it’s head to the crime.
3. If you don’t know what 5th Generation Warfare is, you better start learning.

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Look at history. You can't fucking fix it.

You can go goth or you can submit.

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American or otherwise democracy is always a failure.

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First, your original premise is completely and utterly wrong.  We NEVER had a "democracy", we ALWAYS had a republic.  We still do have a republic, as long as the Constitution exists.  The fact that we allow our elected officials, our "public servants" to operate outside the bounds of the Constitution is our fault.  The face that we allow "big tech" so much power into our lives is our fault.  The fact that we allow elections fraud is our fault.  The fact that we allow "citizens" to be completely non-productive, and to contribute nothing toward society, while voting themselves riches out of our Treasury is our fault.  The fact that we allow our "public servants" to give our riches away to other countries, spending our children's and grandchildren's futures without getting anything in return is our fault.

Everything for the bad (and for the good) that's happening in America today is our fault.  

I'm not sure when it became too late to correct the course that our elected officials have charted for us, but it obviously IS too late.  The only way forward (as far as I can see) is to let them go ahead with their "great reset", let the country and the economy sink until it finally hits rock bottom, let millions of people starve to death, and hope the survivors can create something good and new out of the ashes of our stripped-bare, ruined hopes.

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Only if you ignore the Constitution.

We are a representative constitutional republic.

The only part of this that is pure democracy is binding referendums where the majority vote something into law.

Everything else is done through representatives that are voted for.

The reason why the left keeps calling it a democracy is to legitimize mob rule , that is what polls are all about to, if the majority agrees then it must be ok, and to ignore the constitution and the limits it places on govt pricks doing whatever they want to do.

It is amazing to me that minority populations do not support the only document of law that protects them from the majority while they keep voting against the only real recourse against oppression, the second amendment.

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Look at history. You can't fucking fix it.

You can go goth or you can submit.