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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:39:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Simply put, to punish rural conservatives. Rural areas are conservative. Many drive trucks, work, and commute. High gas prices punish rural conservatives more. In the end, they want centralized control of zoning, to make gas so expensive that rural folk are forced back into cities, where they are controlled easier and their votes diluted. They have already said as much This!!! |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:39:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. They want most to be dependent on mass transit. And they hate you. Concentrate everyone in cities, it makes them easier to monitor and control. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:40:12 PM EDT
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Destabilization.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:42:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol no. It's literally how they get paid. When we're buying gas and oil from other countries politicians get sweet kickbacks. Their kids get prime jobs. It's the money laundering mechanism. The environment has nothing to do with it. The environment is just cover cause it's hard to argue against "Dave the environment" It's a cover to levy taxes and laws. It reduces freedom, it increases dependency. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you have to buy a Prius and be just as pussified as they are. Lol no. It's literally how they get paid. When we're buying gas and oil from other countries politicians get sweet kickbacks. Their kids get prime jobs. It's the money laundering mechanism. The environment has nothing to do with it. The environment is just cover cause it's hard to argue against "Dave the environment" It's a cover to levy taxes and laws. It reduces freedom, it increases dependency. That's a bingo! It's like Satan's checklist: Will it increase dependency? Will it decrease liberty? Will it line their pockets? Will it increase their power? If yes or potentially yes to enough or enough of a degree to any of those, it's full speed ahead... with bought and paid for publicists to make it seem that it isn't so. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:46:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are heavily invested in the alternative energy companies the way the RINOs were in big oil. Fastest way to get people to use green energy is to cause the price of oil to skyrocket...which is what they are actively doing. Alternative Energy is heavily subsidize by tax dollars. The alternative energy companies donate to the politician's "re-erection" campaign. The politician then passes more bills to subsidize the AE companies further. And We The People pay for it all. Prices on almost everything have doubled in the last 10 years, but wages have only gone up ~10%  Which means your buying power has been cut in half, and sadly most poeple don't have the memory or understanding to grasp this. That's how incrementalism (progresivism) works, slow enough change that the frog doesn't jump out of the pot. Until it's too late. Well, peeps... it's too late now. Everyone has a tracking device in their pocket, and government/Google/etc has massive server farms watching everything you fucking do, and enough computing power to make use of all the data you've collected... and YOU PAID FOR IT. It's no co-incidence that all your "devices" are now registered to you. If you thought gun registration was bad... And if you take extra-ordinary steps to stay as low-observable as possible that just puts you higher up on the list. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:48:55 PM EDT
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I think I need a head start on higher gas prices. I would be willing to trade my Yukon Denali XL for Prius V.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:49:47 PM EDT
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Maybe they are just truly insane.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:51:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think I need a head start on higher gas prices. I would be willing to trade my Yukon Denali XL for Prius V. old gas guzzlers don't have satellite tracking built in... It takes more resources to track older vehicles, and what if someone leaves their cell phone at home? What if they drive somewhere there are no cameras? Like rural areas? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:52:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe they are just truly insane. Insanity is a give, but all they really care about is who will give them the most money. You and I may vote on them, but we only pay them ~$150,000/year. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:54:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the environment is the god that they worship and they consider humans a virus which needs to be eradicated Anything they can do to destroy or at least somewhat harm humans they don't consider a problem... You never wondered why they also love abortion, assisted suicide, gun control, letting murderers out early, etc? Kills off more people, so the libs love it. Increased gas and oil prices will cause food and goods to increase in cost, making it harder for the lower and middle class to afford to live... Crime will increase, murders increase, etc.... No down side for them. Dead subjects don't help rulers. Live dependent subjects do. Take your 'increases crime' statement and tie in the disparate level of 'justice' for government agents versus the regular population. A crime increase necessitates an increased response, but with a population that runs the risk of handling that themselves where a response is likely to incur malicious prosecution by the government? That means there needs to be more armed government agents to handle the crime. That means a more dependent regular population. That means more taxes. That means more government power. Result? A more dependent population. Look no further than the government/public demonization of any pro-liberty thought or action. Want to not pay more taxes and deal with thieves yourself? Want to homeschool? Single and don't want to pay property taxes for schools? Want to not wear a mask? Want to run your own business as you see fit? Want to grow your own food? -Worst person on the planet-. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 5:54:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: old gas guzzlers don't have satellite tracking built in... It takes more resources to track older vehicles, and what if someone leaves their cell phone at home? What if they drive somewhere there are no cameras? Like rural areas? It does have OnStar so I’m kinda s.o.l. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:13:53 PM EDT
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They want that Carbon tax, carbon trading as they make money destroying all coal, oil and natural gas. What they fundamentally do not understand is how much petroleum products are used in every day usage. Where do you think asphalt comes from? How about house shingles? PVC piping and on and on. I guess it's possible to smelt metals with electricity only but, you are going to have some hellacious battery farms and you need coal to make steel. It's crazy as I live in a part of NM where there is an estimated of untapped 30+ billion BOE.
USGS Estimates Include 46.3 Billion Barrels of Oil, 281 Trillion Cubic feet of Natural Gas, and 20 Billion Barrels of Natural Gas Liquids in Texas and New Mexico’s Wolfcamp Shale and Bone Spring Formation. source We don't have an energy problem, we have a junk science problem. Most of the loud people wanting this live in mansions and fly around in private jet aircraft. All in all, it's probably for the best as people will either accept it or fight it. I hope fight people fight it. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:37:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: This is going to sound like an embarrassingly fundamental question, but why do Democrats intentionally do things to cause the price of oil and gas to increase and, along with that, increase the chance of conflict in the Middle East? Discuss. They want to force population into urban centers, limit access to personally owned transportation, and increase the stratification of wealth. Lots of factions have an interest in that - - The absurdly wealthy (since the more extreme forms of virtue signalling are expensive, and function much like the old practice of buying indulgences with the Vatican) - that group brings in their interest in "pulling up the drawbridge" to maximize the political pull and power their wealth brings them - Radical tree huggers (the ones that aren't just rebranded commies) - Commies (often pushing tree hugger bullshit to cover their real aims) - Crooked politicians in general (who love mass transit projects and the power and graft they bring with them, as well as the graft from endless stupid wars) - Authoritarians of various stripes (who want the control afforded by centralization) There are others, but those are the big ones. A better question might be, why would the Dems want cheaper gas and oil? There is literally nothing in it for them. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:43:53 PM EDT
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Quoted: This is going to sound like an embarrassingly fundamental question, but why do Democrats intentionally do things to cause the price of oil and gas to increase and, along with that, increase the chance of conflict in the Middle East? Discuss. Bribes and kickbacks don't get paid without the proper environment. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:46:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They want us back on horses so we can save the planet They don't give a shit about the planet. They want your money and your soul. They want to own you. They were always the slaveowners. Remember that. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:47:38 PM EDT
[#16]
It’s a sacrifice to appease their climate change god!!
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:48:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because they're You're both right. They're stupid cunts. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 7:20:39 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted: Yes. They want most to be dependent on mass transit. And they hate you. This and CONTROL of how you live . |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 7:39:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This and CONTROL of how you live . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes. They want most to be dependent on mass transit. And they hate you. This and CONTROL of how you live . Dependency fosters control. Control enables dependency. Some people want to control. Some people want to be controlled. Some people don't. People who want to be controlled cannot accept that there are people who don't want to be controlled. This can be seen in the numerous gun control threads. It always has some seemingly innocuous statement: "I don't have a problem with..." as though their acceptance of control and suckage of the dependency dick means that the refusal of chains and pursuit of liberty is under their sole determination. Argue with anyone who wants higher taxes? Just say "You can go to IRS.gov and give more of your money to the .gov, just leave me alone" and watch them melt down because the whole time they weren't arguing about their money, property, or liberty... they were arguing about how to take yours. Fuck them. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 7:43:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they're stupid. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 7:44:55 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol no. It's literally how they get paid. When we're buying gas and oil from other countries politicians get sweet kickbacks. Their kids get prime jobs. It's the money laundering mechanism. The environment has nothing to do with it. The environment is just cover cause it's hard to argue against "Dave the environment" It's a cover to levy taxes and laws. It reduces freedom, it increases dependency.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 7:47:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They truly have no concept of cause and effect. They will do the same thing over and over again expecting different results each time. They are insane. No, they aren't. Insane people are easy to beat. They know EXACTLY what they're doing. They're ruthless, they're driven, and they're organized |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 7:51:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couple of reasons. In conjunction with other policies that take money out of the working person’s pocket, it puts more heat on people, pushing them past poverty lines. Meaning more assistance. Meaning more people on govt assistance. That justifies them cyclically raising taxes to fund more of their programs - that really just put more money in their pockets and gives them more control. Next, look closely - a lot of them, despite their rhetoric, are making a lot of money from investments in oil companies. So more cash flow to oil companies means higher returns and dividends to them. Which ones make money from oil companies? How does a price increase resulting from increased cost make more money? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 7:53:00 PM EDT
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https://www.politico.com/story/2012/04/uttered-in-2008-still-haunting-obama-in-2012-074892
“If somebody wants to build a coal-fired power plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them,” Obama said, responding to a question about his cap-and-trade plan. He later added, “Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” ... “When I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket,” he added. “Regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad, because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal-powered plants … would have to retrofit their operations. That’ll cost money; they will pass that money on to consumers.” A few reasons. It helps channel money into their friends and donors pockets for one. It also makes the poor more dependant on them and ready to throw the system away in exchange for promises of rainbows and unicorns. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 7:53:03 PM EDT
[#25]
Never underestimate how much some people in positions of power get off on controlling others.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 7:57:42 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you have to buy a Prius and be just as pussified as they are. FPNI |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 8:10:05 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Couple of reasons. In conjunction with other policies that take money out of the working person’s pocket, it puts more heat on people, pushing them past poverty lines. Meaning more assistance. Meaning more people on govt assistance. That justifies them cyclically raising taxes to fund more of their programs - that really just put more money in their pockets and gives them more control. Next, look closely - a lot of them, despite their rhetoric, are making a lot of money from investments in oil companies. So more cash flow to oil companies means higher returns and dividends to them. WINNER,DING, DING, DING^^^^^^^10ring |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 8:15:01 PM EDT
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If you dont realise that it's not "the democrats" but their BOSSES that want this I feel sorry for you.
And no, WE THE PEOPLE are obviously not who "the Democrats" think of as their boss. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:25:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol no. It's literally how they get paid. When we're buying gas and oil from other countries politicians get sweet kickbacks. Their kids get prime jobs. It's the money laundering mechanism. The environment has nothing to do with it. The environment is just cover cause it's hard to argue against "Save the environment" It's a cover to levy taxes and laws. It reduces freedom, it increases dependency. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you have to buy a Prius and be just as pussified as they are. Lol no. It's literally how they get paid. When we're buying gas and oil from other countries politicians get sweet kickbacks. Their kids get prime jobs. It's the money laundering mechanism. The environment has nothing to do with it. The environment is just cover cause it's hard to argue against "Save the environment" It's a cover to levy taxes and laws. It reduces freedom, it increases dependency. Yeppers...You Nailed it ! 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:37:58 PM EDT
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Because they hate you.
They hate everyone you care about. They want you cold ,hungry and in the dark. When you understand these things it all makes sense. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:40:27 PM EDT
[#31]
They will say they want you to buy an electric car to save the planet. They really want you to have to live in a high rise apartment in a huge city and take mass transit or walk everywhere.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 10:55:31 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol no. It's literally how they get paid. When we're buying gas and oil from other countries politicians get sweet kickbacks. Their kids get prime jobs. It's the money laundering mechanism. The environment has nothing to do with it. The environment is just cover cause it's hard to argue against "Save the environment" It's a cover to levy taxes and laws. It reduces freedom, it increases dependency. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you have to buy a Prius and be just as pussified as they are. Lol no. It's literally how they get paid. When we're buying gas and oil from other countries politicians get sweet kickbacks. Their kids get prime jobs. It's the money laundering mechanism. The environment has nothing to do with it. The environment is just cover cause it's hard to argue against "Save the environment" It's a cover to levy taxes and laws. It reduces freedom, it increases dependency. This plus they are personally invested in the competition to the fossil fuel industry. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:01:07 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. They want most to be dependent on mass transit. And they hate you. Explain why "they" benefit from mass transit. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:10:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They want us back on horses so we can save the planet I have heard a liberal say this word for word. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:10:43 PM EDT
[#35]
Maybe more are working from home plus others living off gov’t cheese.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:28:56 PM EDT
[#36]
they want that tax money to funnel
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Posted: 1/24/2021 11:31:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Explain why "they" benefit from mass transit. Because if you are dependent on governemt to get around, it’s another control mechanism they can use on you. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 3:19:22 PM EDT
[#38]
They live in cities and don't own cars so they don't know about buying gas
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Posted: 1/25/2021 3:22:25 PM EDT
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They seem to honestly believe people only use cars and trucks for recreation. Driving to work seems to be something they don't comprehend. Guess it comes from being in places where there is little need for travel because of public transportation or no job.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 3:22:57 PM EDT
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Personal transportation is freedom
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