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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:35:46 AM EDT
[#1]
ETA: I'm out. K thx bye.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:37:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think he was being sarcastic, not serious, but I can't really tell. I agree with him to a point. We DO need to be careful not to become the very thing we condemn. However, when it gets to the point that the Marxists are on the verge of destroying our freedom and liberty - and we are at that point RIGHT NOW - my subscription to previous notions of "the moral high ground" is cancelled. Sincere question, who are the Marxists? Is that what we're calling democrats now? Both parties have their own fair share of clowns in the circus IMO. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:37:37 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better have airtight documentation for the firing, including warnings and performance issues. If it appears you did it for political reasons, and that ever came out, you may have issues even in a right to work state. I don't think 'political affiliation' is one of the protected classes when it comes to discrimination in the workplace. But if people start getting fired on that basis, TPTB will eventually add it to the list. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:38:48 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me tell you what we have become. A society where conservatives are hunted down in the streets. Where are businesses are targeted by the left as they also punish the productive through taxation to pay for it all. Our lives are threatened, our livelihoods at stake through cancel culture, doxxing, etc. All while they masturbate furiously to the thought of rounding YOU and your family up and shoving your dead bodies in a shallow grave with a solar powered, zero carbon emissions bulldozer. And you still want to play nice? That's how we got to this point. Fuck it. If they are in your organization, it is only to sabotage it. Act accordingly, but act smart. If you have the legal ways and means to cut them.....do it. You sound nothing better than some of the radicals for BLM. Who on this board has been hunted down and for what? |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:38:59 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Find a legitimate reason to fire them. Then make it happen. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:40:43 AM EDT
[#6]
ETA: Yeah, fuck it. The shit is all dildos.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:43:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL You serious? You'll be cancelled in return and your business sued into oblivion. They'll figure out a way to crush you. I hope it works out for you though. Good luck. If someone punches you in the face, don't hit them back. Oh dear no. They may get angry and punch you in the face  |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:45:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you now want to fire people because they are a Dumbocrat? What have we become. Regardless of their political views..The decision should be made on their work merits, not a political party. I'm sure your high horse moral values will be a real comfort to you as you live under their boot |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:46:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do it. Start playing by their rules. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:46:16 AM EDT
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I'm a manager in a state agency. My 3 direct reports are all left of center. One is a hard socialist. Funny thing is, he is my most productive and hardest working and former USAF. In the past 6-9 months it seems as if they have gone very political and tried to stab me in the back at every chance they can. Maybe its just a feeling, I don't know. I do know I have worked very had to not discuss politics around them or even where they can hear me talking with right leaning coworkers. One of my guys is the typical try and do a little as he can. All kinds of health issues and rides it hard. The third is a great worker too, but bitches about every little thing he can to the point of it sounds like he's trying to get out of work, but he's very motivated if everything is in place.
I've gone out of my way to make sure these guys stay employed and make sure there is work or future work for them. I can walk at any time with retirement. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:48:21 AM EDT
[#11]
Productivity will skyrocket.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:51:13 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fire all of them now. They are deadweight and boll weevils. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:51:58 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL You serious? You'll be cancelled in return and your business sued into oblivion. They'll figure out a way to crush you. I hope it works out for you though. Good luck. It worked in Alberta , can't see it not working in the USA. 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:55:42 AM EDT
[#14]
Make sure you post about it on the internet first!
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:55:55 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see a Biden sign in their yard...their quote just earned a 10% bidet tax on top of anything I was going to bid. Of course the bidet tax is not itemized or visible but make no mistake...their paying it.:) At a previous job my internal use estimate software had a little box at the bottom labeled “fluff”, for when I was making a quote for someone I thought was an asshole. I’d just toss in a little “fluff” as compensation for putting up with them. 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:57:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ... I've gone out of my way to make sure these guys stay employed and make sure there is work or future work for them. 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:57:38 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Brand them sexist or racist. They will then be outed from the lib circle. 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:01:20 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better have airtight documentation for the firing, including warnings and performance issues. If it appears you did it for political reasons, and that ever came out, you may have issues even in a right to work state. Yes know your state laws. Most states have no provisions or protections for political discrimination. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:05:10 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me tell you what we have become. A society where conservatives are hunted down in the streets. Where are businesses are targeted by the left as they also punish the productive through taxation to pay for it all. Our lives are threatened, our livelihoods at stake through cancel culture, doxxing, etc. All while they masturbate furiously to the thought of rounding YOU and your family up and shoving your dead bodies in a shallow grave with a solar powered, zero carbon emissions bulldozer. And you still want to play nice? That's how we got to this point. Fuck it. If they are in your organization, it is only to sabotage it. Act accordingly, but act smart. If you have the legal ways and means to cut them.....do it.  |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:05:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You sound nothing better than some of the radicals for BLM. Who on this board has been hunted down and for what? If I had the time, and really cared enough about your bullshit post, I would post numerous video of people outside Trump rallies being chased down by the likes of BLM. Or people being harassed punched for just attending. I would post numerous videos of BLM taking over restaurants and flipping shit as diners , who did nothing to provoke it, scurry away in fear. I could post numerous videos of the left calling for violence against the right. Media, Hollywood and even our own politicians. I would post videos of Antifa and BLM looting, burning and breaking up stores....unless you can tell us all exactly what these businesses did to deserve that treatment. Sounds like you can justify it. So, while I don't know exactly who, or the numbers of people on this site personally have found themselves in these positions. In a country of 300,000,000 and enough video evidence, one can clearly see the bias, the crimes against, and the violence committed against anyone not like the left. If you can't see it or worse yet, refuse to see it and even make excuses for it.....well........I guess we know where you stand. And furthermore. Getting rid of leftists in an organization is the exact same as hiring on one's color or gender as the only qualifications, giving preference on contracts or government providing financial incentives based on skin color, which the left does all the time. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:07:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Find a legitimate reason to fire them. Then make it happen. Or make sure it looks legitimate. Why are we taking the high road anymore? I don't get it. They are not subject to the laws of the land, and therefore, I am not either. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:07:36 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Find a legitimate reason to fire them. Then make it happen. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:07:51 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you now want to fire people because they are a Dumbocrat? What have we become. Regardless of their political views..The decision should be made on their work merits, not a political party. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL You serious? You'll be cancelled in return and your business sued into oblivion. They'll figure out a way to crush you. I hope it works out for you though. Good luck. So you now want to fire people because they are a Dumbocrat? What have we become. Regardless of their political views..The decision should be made on their work merits, not a political party. Lol. Tell that to your boy in the wh. I had a buddy down here that worked for a construction company that was totally republican. Owner basically said I won't hire you unless you are 100% pro trump at the time. I would imagine he was cuban american but can't remember for sure. Definitely a latin american owner. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:08:25 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Find a legitimate reason to fire them. Then make it happen. This. You dont have to dig hard to find documentable reasons to fire folks. Just opsec and do it. Most left wing employees contribute to a toxic workplace anyhow. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:10:41 AM EDT
[#25]
Obvious sjw issue? Yep
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:11:59 AM EDT
[#26]
I'd say no. Acting like the bad guys just makes us bad guys too. No justification to be petty and small-minded by punishing someone for their political opinions if they otherwise do a good job and work well with your team.
Now if they can't separate politics from reality on the ground and their actions are detrimental because of it, that's a different story. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:14:02 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see a Biden sign in their yard...their quote just earned a 10% bidet tax on top of anything I was going to bid. Of course the bidet tax is not itemized or visible but make no mistake...their paying it.:) I've been using that method for years... It's referred to as "DHT or Dick Head Tax" |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:15:03 AM EDT
[#28]
Don’t post about shit like that on a public forum.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:16:40 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let 'em go and be sure to tell 'em that you anticipate being able to hire a dreamer that will work cheaper.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:18:12 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lefties dont have jobs Didn't a young Wall St attorney firebomb some cops last year? |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:19:48 AM EDT
[#31]
If I had any I would!
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:20:51 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The correct procedure is to reduce their scheduled hours a little at a time until they can no longer afford to stay. Most times you can even avoid unemployment claims if they quit of their own volition. Giving them menial, mind-numbing tasks like counting a huge pile of paperclips has also been known to make people quit. Open a trailer office in N. Dakota and transfer them there in the middle of winter.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:21:35 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Find a legitimate reason to fire them. Then make it happen. this |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:23:23 AM EDT
[#34]
Put them into a position where you would have to write them up. After several write-ups on the same subject, then terminate them. Always have the right ups first.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:24:07 AM EDT
[#35]
Data mining thread.
Y'all don't learn. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:27:00 AM EDT
[#36]
I've done it. Also severed business ties with rabid lefty shitheads.
If you're going to fire someone for that, don't say it's for that. Don't be a moron and open yourself up to a suit. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:27:07 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You sound nothing better than some of the radicals for BLM. Who on this board has been hunted down and for what? I was doxxed back in the summer leading up to the 16 election. Fortunately for me they only found my address, not my employer at the time. I let them have fun with an "unemployed nazi" for a while.  for a while I had for employment Pot hole watcher at NYSDOT. Then that got disappeared rather quickly. 3 of my best friends were shit canned for comments made on social media, turns out free speech works one way too. 1 of my cousins is black listed from digital imaging/web page design whatever the name for dork art is. That's what I call it. He used to make backgrounds pictures and whole web pages, his photoshopping skills made for quite the meme war ammo. All you had to do was be in support of Trump, opposed to open borders, opposed to high taxes, pro gun, and that was enough to justify being shit canned. Fight back and cite discrimination in the work place like my cousin did? Good way to be labeled a problem, and prospective employers notified. He had a fling with one of the HR broads that over heard phone calls made, and saved 5 emails that went to the firms competitors in NYC to ensure he'd never hold a job in that line of work ever again. Rather than be down about it, his work speaks for itself and he went out on his own and makes more than he ever did. There are exceptions to the corporate commie termination rule. Many do bounce back better than before. But not all. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:29:52 AM EDT
[#38]
See, here's the thing.
There is an *INGENIOUS* way to ensure that it is illegal to fire liberals for being liberal... but perfectly fine to fire conservatives for being conservative. Employers are allowed to terminate employees based on their political views or political activities *UNLESS* such political views or political activities are tied to a protective class. For instance, if you fire someone for attending an LGBT March, or a Woman's rights march, or even a Pro-Life rally..... the case could be made that you are in essence firing somone for being gay, a female, or Christian respectively. But lets be honest here, we know these laws won't be enforced equally. You fire someone for going to an LGBT March or Pro-Abortion rally... and you'll *DEFINITELY* get fucked by the courts. But if you fire someone for being pro-life, even if that stance is based entirely on their religion... the government will laugh at the Christian in their face and tell them to leave their religion at home. Guarantee you they won't say the same thing to a Muslim though...  The problem is, the *ENTIRETY* of Leftist ideology pretty much surrounds the issue of "identity" these days... In practice... you can't fire anyone for being a liberal, because no matter what stance they have, it can probably be somehow tied as being part of a protected group. The same logic isn't used, however, to defend Conservatives who also might likewise have a few beliefs that are tied to a protective class (like Religion). |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:35:38 AM EDT
[#39]
Realistically, this is the only way to avoid a company going woke and then broke. Example 1-Gillette. They had a shitty person (strong woke woman) pitch a commercial that cost them 8 Billion, with a B, in losses over the course of a year. Would have been cheaper to fire her for a host of bullshit reasons and even pay severance of a few thousand.
I could repeat this shit all day. Genuinely curious what the loss in revenue will be for AMZ, ABC, and TWTR for their recent politically charged censorship. Only time will tell. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:35:54 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Data mining thread. Y'all don't learn.  Click.... click-click...... click..... |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:53:43 AM EDT
[#41]
Pro-tip
Guy's who make dumb emotional decisions like that aren't owners or around to hire/fire for very long Just had to fire a great kid that I really like as a person this year. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:55:59 AM EDT
[#42]
Lawsuits galore, with the Leftists providing pro bono representation funded by ACLU, Soros, Facebook, Twitter, etc al.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:58:09 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are an employer you should not know the political leanings of your employees. If you do, you should pretend you don't. CYA. Leftists can't help but declare their political ideas in every situation. "Good morning, thank God Trumps out of the Whitehouse." |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:00:49 AM EDT
[#44]
if you do that make sure you post about it on a public forum admitting you do it so the evidence is well chronicled the the inevitable lawsuit against you.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:23:29 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Find a legitimate reason to fire them. Then make it happen. This and remember it is easier to do if your business is in a state with At Will employment laws. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:26:42 AM EDT
[#46]
Political views are not protected classes. Fire them all
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:26:55 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: Reverse cancel culture Think there would be outrage? EDIT: I'm not a owner or in a hiring or firing position. For the last several years I've refused to hire anyone who's gone to university, does that count? If I'm going to teach someone who knows nothing of value how to do a job, I'd rather not start with someone who thinks they deserve as much money as I make for simply existing. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:28:24 AM EDT
[#48]
We are no longer in need of your services |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:34:23 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd say no. Acting like the bad guys just makes us bad guys too. No justification to be petty and small-minded by punishing someone for their political opinions if they otherwise do a good job and work well with your team. Now if they can't separate politics from reality on the ground and their actions are detrimental because of it, that's a different story. Oh well. I'll own it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:42:05 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Political views are not protected classes. Fire them all I think in California political views might be protected under state law. Saw it come up once here in GD. Which could be used to hilarious unintended effect by conservatives/republicans who get fired. |
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