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Posted: 1/22/2021 7:00:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What swing? After everything that happened over the past 12 months, the left bolted the pendulum firmly to the left to keep it from ever swinging again. Just watch and see what will happen. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 7:03:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe the left owned congress and POTUS for 50yrs before ronald reagan was sworn in. Frankly I don't think it's so much that they "own" congress and POTUS, as much as it is a system that is rigged. Someone else explained it much more eloquently than I can in another thread a couple of weeks back, but their explanation was basically that the Dems and R's aren't all that different from one another, and that they view all this as nothing more than a game where turns are taken at leadership. I believe that now more than ever. The career senators and congress people that are Republican never wanted an outsider like Trump as president and they don't even try to hide it all that well. Look at Mitch McConnell releasing the Operation Hurricane or whatever it is on the last day or so of Trumps presidency. Had that been done months ago it may have been impactful, but its pointless to do it now except to say "look, I really am on your side ". |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:20:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am certain that within 20 years, many people who voted for democrats in 2020 will be even less happy with their government than they were under Trump. They might even be heard saying, "I would rather have Trump as president for life than this shit!" I think it is going to be more like 2 years. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:29:04 AM EDT
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They’ve locked the pendulum to the left. It’s never coming back to the right.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:32:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am certain that within 20 years, many people who voted for democrats in 2020 will be even less happy with their government than they were under Trump. They might even be heard saying, "I would rather have Trump as president for life than this shit!" Choice is an illusion at this point. Hope is the last thing they will take away. You can vote for whoever you like, as if it means anything lol. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:32:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That hard swing was years ago.....Obama 2.0 was to rally harder with continued power.....Trump was never suppose to happen. What we just observed is massive disruption in the process, faith in the system and a boiling angst. We are no longer in a predictable inertia. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You’re kidding. The election was fraudulent. There was no swing. There is a very obvious swing. The left is more bold than ever....and we are playing on the internet That hard swing was years ago.....Obama 2.0 was to rally harder with continued power.....Trump was never suppose to happen. What we just observed is massive disruption in the process, faith in the system and a boiling angst. We are no longer in a predictable inertia. 100% correct. OP think about it like this. In the last 10 or 20 years we’ve gone from valuing individuals, independent thought, etc., to being told we’re (societally) good little individuals who are completely unique* (*just like everyone else), but what we really are is drones, chattel for the media and those who run it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:37:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On a Geologic time scale?  . It sounds like desperation has caused you to replace rational thinking with groundless optimism. Positive thinking is great, when it’s based in reality. What’s your theory on how and when this change will occur? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We are on the full left swing right now. We will see how long it takes to move back and how long....I don't think long. On a Geologic time scale? . It sounds like desperation has caused you to replace rational thinking with groundless optimism. Positive thinking is great, when it’s based in reality. What’s your theory on how and when this change will occur? Less than (4) years... |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:40:35 AM EDT
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When you nationalize 10M-20M illegals already here and you then swing open the border and allow hoards of Central Americans to flow endlessly across the Rio Grande, the pendulum politically ain't swingin' anywhere.
The goal here is multigenerational, unchallengeable power and the swinging political pendulum will be affixed to the left for many, many years. A demographic shift that absolutely will assure this. It amazes me that, at this point given all we have experienced, this dynamic is still not crystal clear to some. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:42:27 AM EDT
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I can't believe that some here still look towards the gop as being their paradigm of hope.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:47:10 AM EDT
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Government rules against the will of the people because they are ruling to enrich themselves. The are able to continually make poor legislation because they are never held accountable. The are never held accountable because the blame an enemy for not being able to do anything. Or, they blame a crisis for ‘having too’ while admitting it was bad legislation. Or the straight up tell you it’s impossible to fix so deal with it.
Now they are able to blame each other by dividing the country into small groups based on social ideas. There is passion in social issues and they leverage these issues based on the passion. It a uni-party in a theater production of he said she said. They use the media to make it appear a minority position is a majority belief. When all else fails, the accuse the majority of being so heinous that they will shut up for fear of being called the worse names on the planet. And if none of the above works... THEY CHEAT. “Now eat your shit sandwich, pay your money for it and shut the fuck up - .gov |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:49:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't believe that some here still look towards the gop as being their paradigm of hope. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:52:47 AM EDT
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The mechanism is going to break
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:00:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: We are on the full left swing right now. We will see how long it takes to move back and how long....I don't think long. Lol. The only way it's swinging right again is with a large body count. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:01:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What swing? After everything that happened over the past 12 months, the left bolted the pendulum firmly to the left to keep it from ever swinging again.  |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:03:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're kidding. The election was fraudulent. There was no swing. This wasn't the first time the left stole a presidential election. They did it to get JFK elected. The defeatists here are ready to throw in the towel because the left stole an election. They had to steal it because most of the American people reject their views. That ought to be a comfort to us. We came back after JFK stole an election, we can come back here also, especially after the damaged Bidet does. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:11:14 AM EDT
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The one and only hope is that people rapidly wake up and realize that Democrat and Republican thinking was nothing more than a trap and that it is the people vs. the ruling class. It will take a Nationalist Populist movement to change that. An America First party would be a start.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:12:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What swing? After everything that happened over the past 12 months, the left bolted the pendulum firmly to the left to keep it from ever swinging again. Trump was elected after 4 years of Obama. He would have easily won again if he didn't act like a jerk all of the time. I remember being in here back in 2008 and everyone was wailing about of the Republican party was dead and they'd never win another election. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:16:28 AM EDT
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Another boomercon cope
There's no pendulum, and there wasn't whenever this bit of rhetoric was first devised The county, the institutions, and the people of this country have been moving authoritarian left for 60 years We won't even see a glimmer of change in this trend in our lifetimes Enjoy the decline, it's here to stay. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:18:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not how it works. The more ridiculous they get. The more violent the swing back will be. Tell the people in China that, or any number of communist country. It doesn't always swing back. Our "middle" that we used to use as a line of sanity has been obliterated. The balance between left and right is no longer sought out. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:19:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just watch and see what will happen. After we get new "citizens", states and SCOTUS justices? |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:22:39 AM EDT
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Let me know when it ever swings to the right. Trump was a good guy, but not exactly "right wing". He had almost the same political platform (but with patriotism) as Bill Clinton. Really shows how we have changed more then anything. In a few years, Tulsi Gabbard types will be the new "right wing racist nazi" we will be championing. And she is a socialist.
The CENTER of the political spectrum has been and always will be the founders of the country. Even the republican's see them as extremists now. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:26:04 AM EDT
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LOL Bullshit... What we just witnessed was a (insert adjective here) takeover. The "pendulum" was still moving right. The left cut the damn pendulum down. Then staged 25k soldiers as a show to anyone who disagrees that they have the power and intend to use it.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:26:39 AM EDT
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Disagree.
If you think “we’re full Left” at this moment, you are wrong. Look at UK & Europe. In the next decade, there will be: Single payer medical care to enable “the free and inalienable Right of healthcare to all....” The higher taxation of businesses, hospitals, physicians & others to pay for it, like in some Scandinavian countries; Higher taxation on “The Wealthy” to pay for those who choose not to work; Britain has this where its ex-Subjects living here in the USA complain 1/3 of the country is taxed to support the other 2/3; Vilification of white men & nuclear/traditional families & the values associated & the “empowerment” of those downtrodden souls who have been exploited. Those who work and contribute have far too much to lose to do anything other than complain. Public disgrace & prison will come to a few who resist & will put others in their place. Unfortunately, the worst is yet to come, and it will in the next decade because the Democrats have figured out how to get—and stay in power. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:29:40 AM EDT
[#24]
Ha! No.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:40:11 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: We are on the full left swing right now. We will see how long it takes to move back and how long....I don't think long. The pendulum swing is not legitimate. The populace did not vote to go left. It’s purely artificial. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:43:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The pendulum swing is not legitimate. The populace did not vote to go left. It's purely artificial. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We are on the full left swing right now. We will see how long it takes to move back and how long....I don't think long. The pendulum swing is not legitimate. The populace did not vote to go left. It's purely artificial. The point actually isn't whether it's swung to the left legitimately or not. We already know the answer to that and are currently living under the results. It's the prospect (or lack of) it ever swinging in any other direction in the future. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:51:41 AM EDT
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Laughs in Dominion voting machines.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:52:10 AM EDT
[#28]
Severe case of normalcy bias
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:55:05 AM EDT
[#29]
He is still confused.
$15 minimum wage leads to unemployment which leads to hunger 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:58:01 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He is still confused. $15 minimum wage leads to unemployment which leads to hunger https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/383515/8C93EE55-89C3-408E-BD2B-458E7A0A27D9-1791224.png  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:03:34 AM EDT
[#31]
I have a feeling the next big guy on the right will be someone "worse" than Trump, and will openly state that the game is honked from the start and he's not here to win office but to organize and lead people to do something else.
I'm ok with that. I HOPE that happens. Weak, permissive conservatism got us welfare we are. I'd like to try a far right strongman next. That seems to be the only effective counter to socialism. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:06:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pendulums can't swing if you nail them to the fucking wall. +1 The current crop of Republicans, with few exceptions, are quite content to sit in the corner and watch the Democrats fuck their wife. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:08:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: We are on the full left swing right now. We will see how long it takes to move back and how long....I don't think long. Where did you pick up the pendulum analogy3from OP???? I'm curious, please state which article it came from. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:09:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The GOP is in league with the Left. They’ve learned how to coexist and both profit as a result. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I’m all ears on solving this problem... The reason the GOP of today supports policies that the DNC supported a decade ago is because the Left controls the culture. You can start by taking your kids out of Leftist indoctrination centers and homeschooling them. The GOP is in league with the Left. They’ve learned how to coexist and both profit as a result. Both parties want increase in government power. The only difference is what to do with that power. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:11:18 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't believe that some here still look towards the gop as being their paradigm of hope. They are terrible too but I vote for them hoping for gridlock. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:14:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Left...right...but always descending. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:14:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump was elected after 4 years of Obama. He would have easily won again if he didn't act like a jerk all of the time. I remember being in here back in 2008 and everyone was wailing about of the Republican party was dead and they'd never win another election. Fake mail in ballots cost him the election. He was hugely popular with half the country. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:28:22 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL Bullshit... What we just witnessed was a (insert adjective here) takeover. The "pendulum" was still moving right. The left cut the damn pendulum down. Then staged 25k soldiers as a show to anyone who disagrees that they have the power and intend to use it. QFT |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:29:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not how it works. The more ridiculous they get. The more violent the swing back will be. If that's true, buckle up. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:31:08 AM EDT
[#40]
I don't care anymore.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:33:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:34:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In my lifetime, it swings back to the right, but it never swings back as far. very much this The world is completely different than 25 years ago. Things that were unspeakable are mainstream D policies now. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:36:28 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When you nationalize 10M-20M illegals already here and you then swing open the border and allow hoards of Central Americans to flow endlessly across the Rio Grande, the pendulum politically ain't swingin' anywhere. The goal here is multigenerational, unchallengeable power and the swinging political pendulum will be affixed to the left for many, many years. A demographic shift that substantial will assure this. It amazes me that, at this point given all we have experienced, this dynamic is still not crystal clear to some. this. dems are not playing the usual game, they are consolidating power, and changing the rules, so they dont have to worry about getting voted out, which means they can pass anything they want, and fuck you if you dont like it. now its. " we need secret police". wake up. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:40:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't believe that some here still look towards the gop as being their paradigm of hope. this.. the dems and gop are playing good cop / bad cop on you the citizen. you cant trust them, as they are both cops and benefitting from everything that happens, they both benefit from arrests / convictions, they use the law to make themselves rich, the confiscate property to make their department wealthy, and get raises..... then they play good cop / bad cop to keep you in line. you support the good cop, and hope he protects you from bad cop.. but the second he walks out of the room they both team up and laugh at you thru the one way mirror as they figure the next way to fuck you over. they are a team, not rivals. the only one going to get fucked by you helping them, is you. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:41:38 AM EDT
[#45]
It ain't never swinging back. This country is on its way to some version of socialism leading to communism, with my Generation leading the charge.
The Dems are basically socialist now, and the GOP is the 80's/90s democrats. So when it swings, the Dems will be communist while the GOP is socialist. It will still be a leftward march. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:42:24 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
In my lifetime, it swings back to the right, but it never swings back as far. Guys like romney and sasse will be the new leaders of the GOP. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:45:25 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In my lifetime, it swings back to the right, but it never swings back as far. FPNI. The pendulum analogy is foolish and people should stop using it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:46:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm the oldest of my siblings. The youngest seems to be a practical libertarian (lowercase L). The rest are center left to kinda far left; at least some of them are practical. 'Sorry, I love you guys but I gave you a heads up on guns and ammo (last March, Rural King had 2.0 Compact 9mm's for $319!)'. They just may come around but I think it more likely they'll just vote for a "better" democrat. AKA we're all fucked but we might see a strong (actual) grassroots Conservative swing in the House in 2022. I think we should at least vote in the primaries. Election fraud is a real thing but if we can assemble ~300 Freedom Congressmen + Rinos we can have a real chance at toppling the Beast. The Dems control redistricting in the Fraud states so that's going to be tough. The only path in 2024 is to win the governorships in the Fraud states and pass strong election reform. But they remember 2010 and will block that with Fraud. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:47:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another boomercon cope There's no pendulum, and there wasn't whenever this bit of rhetoric was first devised The county, the institutions, and the people of this country have been moving authoritarian left for 60 years We won't even see a glimmer of change in this trend in our lifetimes Enjoy the decline, it's here to stay. imho the only REAL fix, most likely to make a real difference at this point.. would be some horrific calamity. something that wrecks everyones lives over night, something that totally rips away comforts, takes down electric, internet, social media bullshit, phones, etc. something that disrupts control, and gives people REAL problems to worry about, like being murdered, freezing to death or starving, with no option to sit fat and happy while ignoring gov meddling. basically something to wake people up, and give them zero tolerence for gov meddling / bullshit. anything less IMHO will result in a slow slide into socialism / communism until the usa resembles soviet russia in the bad old days. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:50:21 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He is still confused. $15 minimum wage leads to unemployment which leads to hunger https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/383515/8C93EE55-89C3-408E-BD2B-458E7A0A27D9-1791224.png Biden's really not in charge. Obama is the De Facto POTUS right now, and Pelosi is the de facto vice President. |
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