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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:15:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  More to the point, can the mods contact all members and see who's missing?ARFCom roll call! 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:15:23 PM EDT
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I can't believe the store didn't have some kind of mechanism in place to prevent this. Any return over a certain amount should have required a managers approval.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:19:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The ones in Georgia don’t have anything like that...... Kroger on Hwy 96 in Warner Robins, GA. does 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:20:13 PM EDT
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When I worked AP I busted a lady that stole approximately $1 million from a Walmart store. But it took her 10 years. I was only at that store for a couple months before I dicovered it. She had been doing it so long, the "books" had adjusted so what she was doing appeared normal for that store on paper. She was also a service desk associate. Was taking between $200-500 a day in fraudulent returns.
To be honest, I stumbled across it on accident. I noticed a refund that seemed suspicious. Figured it was a customer that had picked the items up off the shelf and attempted to return them, which happened alot at that store. When I reviewed video to ID the customer.... there wasnt one. The associate handkeyed the merchandise into the register and pocketed the money. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:24:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:25:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Impressive. MOST impressive... |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:25:08 PM EDT
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His name was Tre Bilzerian.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:32:29 PM EDT
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We’ve had a few people at my supermarket do that over the course of years and get quite a bit. An asst store manager got over 500k from fraudulent returns and only got caught because he refunded a $700 wedding cake that wasn’t ever ordered. Someone mentioned it to the bakery manager and an investigation began. As I recall, it was mainly to pay for his drug habit.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:53:11 PM EDT
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The fake return scam is pretty common and I'm surprised that a chain store like that doesn't have any controls to prevent that. 20 years ago my local walmart had some high school kids working the service counter steal around $50,000 over the course of a year. At a grocery store, any return over $50 should get the attention of the shift supervisor and review of the store manager.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:58:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Idiot And what costs 87,000 at a grocery store? Maybe they had 9mm ammo? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:00:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, how would no one notice that immediately? Gross incompetence. Possibly an inside job. This should have been obvious on the first daily cash out. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:01:14 PM EDT
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Teenager did 1 mil in 2 weeks ? Very impressive, if he didn't get caught we would've seen politicking in his future.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:01:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, how would no one notice that immediately? Assuming his status as a "teen" bought him some time while they made extra sure that they had all of the proof before calling the dastardly poleece |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:10:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I worked AP I busted a lady that stole approximately $1 million from a Walmart store. But it took her 10 years. I was only at that store for a couple months before I dicovered it. She had been doing it so long, the "books" had adjusted so what she was doing appeared normal for that store on paper. She was also a service desk associate. Was taking between $200-500 a day in fraudulent returns. To be honest, I stumbled across it on accident. I noticed a refund that seemed suspicious. Figured it was a customer that had picked the items up off the shelf and attempted to return them, which happened alot at that store. When I reviewed video to ID the customer.... there wasnt one. The associate handkeyed the merchandise into the register and pocketed the money. Shit like this just makes we wonder how much of this kind of shit, at every level that doesn't get caught. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:38:37 PM EDT
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Wow, that store manager was really watching that monthly P&L statement. His ass should be locked up too.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:38:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit like this just makes we wonder how much of this kind of shit, at every level that doesn't get caught. Had a manager take a deposit one time. About $90,000..... he was scheduled to start his vacation the next day. When we realized the money was gone the next morning he was already on a plane to Thailand. He never came back. Apparently he had been planning it for awhile |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:18:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Am I missing something? He didn't steal any merchandise, he stole money via fraudulent returns. The merch is normally post return unless the MFG. wants it back is thrown out. So there is there is double shrink fuckery. We caught a kid 20+ years ago that racked up 275,000 in 2 weeks. His tell was him jamming a finger up his nose before he stole shit. So we just watched him until he picked his nose. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:30:06 PM EDT
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Quoted: A Gwinnett County teenager was arrested after authorities said he managed to steal nearly $1 million from the grocery store where he worked. Tre Brown, 19, was taken into custody Jan. 14 after scamming the Kroger on Steve Reynolds Boulevard out of more than $980,000 over a two-week period, Gwinnett police spokesman Cpl. Collin Flynn said. According to police, Brown created more than 40 returns for non-existent items in December and January. Those returns, which ranged in price from $75 to more than $87,000, were then placed on several credit cards, investigators said. Police said Brown used the stolen money to buy two cars, clothes, guns and new shoes. Prior to his arrest, the teen reportedly totaled a Chevrolet Camaro that he bought, Flynn said. https://www.ajc.com/news/teen-accused-of-stealing-nearly-1-million-from-gwinnett-kroger/7FV4QYI2FFGFXA5LTTXHZABBVQ/ Maybe he should have bought an airplane ticket to a non-extradition treaty country instead? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:15:11 PM EDT
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What happened to the good ol days when guys just wanted to do a barrel roll?
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:40:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Teen" |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:47:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Had a manager take a deposit one time. About $90,000..... he was scheduled to start his vacation the next day. When we realized the money was gone the next morning he was already on a plane to Thailand. He never came back. Apparently he had been planning it for awhile I'll bet not as long as he thought. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:43:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:48:00 PM EDT
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1m over two weeks got to believe the entire shrinkage crew and several auditors were put on that right away.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:49:12 PM EDT
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Did Dominion recruiters get some calls in to him yet?
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Posted: 1/22/2021 12:04:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: A Gwinnett County teenager was arrested after authorities said he managed to steal nearly $1 million from the grocery store where he worked. Tre Brown, 19, was taken into custody Jan. 14 after scamming the Kroger on Steve Reynolds Boulevard out of more than $980,000 over a two-week period, Gwinnett police spokesman Cpl. Collin Flynn said. According to police, Brown created more than 40 returns for non-existent items in December and January. Those returns, which ranged in price from $75 to more than $87,000, were then placed on several credit cards, investigators said. Police said Brown used the stolen money to buy two cars, clothes, guns and new shoes. Prior to his arrest, the teen reportedly totaled a Chevrolet Camaro that he bought, Flynn said. https://www.ajc.com/news/teen-accused-of-stealing-nearly-1-million-from-gwinnett-kroger/7FV4QYI2FFGFXA5LTTXHZABBVQ/ Tre Brown  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 12:15:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, how would no one notice that immediately? I guess I am one of two(OP) who read the article. "Police said Brown, who they believe worked at the fuel center, stole the money while an employee tasked with flagging fraudulent transactions was on vacation for two weeks." |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 12:36:35 AM EDT
[#27]
Damn!
I know it ain't right, but I gotta admit I'm impressed. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:36:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Qualified for a Biden administration position. Future Democrat Representative from Gwinett County. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 9:55:34 AM EDT
[#29]
87? SWEET!
He was an employee that worked at the fuel depot and processed the returns. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:22:12 AM EDT
[#30]
If you are going to do something that stupid that will obviously lead to getting caught, take your million and GTFO. Disappear.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:22:36 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The ones in Georgia don’t have anything like that...... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Idiot And what costs 87,000 at a grocery store? The ones in Georgia don’t have anything like that...... Kroger in Carrollton has the jewelry store, clothing, furniture, etc. just like the Fred Meyer stores out west. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:26:58 AM EDT
[#32]
I would think that even if the auditor was on vacation, losses that big in a short period of time would get the attention of a manager.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:28:34 AM EDT
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Some industries pay well for talent in upfront bonuses or “forgivable loans”
One guy I knew a dozen years ago jumped from one financial company to another and was given close to 7 figures. Wife was on his ass about to file for divorce. Meantime in less than a year he jumps to another company and gets over a mil up front. Cashes the check, cleans out all his accounts and bolts to Costa Rica. Last I heard living like a king. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:33:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And what costs 87,000 at a grocery store? Bravado |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:36:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some industries pay well for talent in upfront bonuses or “forgivable loans” One guy I knew a dozen years ago jumped from one financial company to another and was given close to 7 figures. Wife was on his ass about to file for divorce. Meantime in less than a year he jumps to another company and gets over a mil up front. Cashes the check, cleans out all his accounts and bolts to Costa Rica. Last I heard living like a king. Jesus! How good do you have to be to get a million up front. Knew I should of stayed in school. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:37:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 87? SWEET! He was an employee that worked at the fuel depot and processed the returns. Fuel returns?
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Posted: 1/22/2021 10:41:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “Teen” Technically he is nine TEEN. And an adult. Unless 19 has a new word. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 11:45:48 AM EDT
[#38]
Used to work at Home Depot and mostly when someone working there was suspected of some kind of flim flam they were not accused but left to run their scam for quite some time to build evidence against them.
Loss prevention was pretty slow and the bad guy would usually get more and more greedy because they thought they had a perfect system. Worked with some real stupid folks |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 1:51:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Technically he is nine TEEN. And an adult. Unless 19 has a new word. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: “Teen” Technically he is nine TEEN. And an adult. Unless 19 has a new word. He's quoting teen because teen not used a descriptor of age so much as it is being used as a euphemism for a certain race in these articles. It's the new racism and they don't even realize it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 1:56:35 PM EDT
[#40]
Should have kept transferring the balance and got the fuck out of dodge.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:00:53 PM EDT
[#41]
He should read Prof. William Black's book, The Best Way to Rob a Bank
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:10:13 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I am one of two(OP) who read the article. "Police said Brown, who they believe worked at the fuel center, stole the money while an employee tasked with flagging fraudulent transactions was on vacation for two weeks." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol, how would no one notice that immediately? I guess I am one of two(OP) who read the article. "Police said Brown, who they believe worked at the fuel center, stole the money while an employee tasked with flagging fraudulent transactions was on vacation for two weeks." |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:14:21 PM EDT
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Catching him depends on the volume.
If you are doing $400,000 a day at 45% comp someone can easily get up to 50k of fraudulent returns in the system without raising a managers curiosity. That’s why we pay people to look out for losses. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:15:34 PM EDT
[#44]
That LP person is probably looking for another job.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:17:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:19:07 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The ones in Georgia don’t have anything like that...... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Idiot And what costs 87,000 at a grocery store? The ones in Georgia don’t have anything like that...... Some of them do. 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:26:42 PM EDT
[#47]
An acquaintance in HS ran a return scam in high school at a Walmart. It was in the thousands if he wasn't full of shit. He never got caught either.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:39:10 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit like this just makes we wonder how much of this kind of shit, at every level that doesn't get caught. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When I worked AP I busted a lady that stole approximately $1 million from a Walmart store. But it took her 10 years. I was only at that store for a couple months before I dicovered it. She had been doing it so long, the "books" had adjusted so what she was doing appeared normal for that store on paper. She was also a service desk associate. Was taking between $200-500 a day in fraudulent returns. To be honest, I stumbled across it on accident. I noticed a refund that seemed suspicious. Figured it was a customer that had picked the items up off the shelf and attempted to return them, which happened alot at that store. When I reviewed video to ID the customer.... there wasnt one. The associate handkeyed the merchandise into the register and pocketed the money. Shit like this just makes we wonder how much of this kind of shit, at every level that doesn't get caught. I have a Cousin who got away with something between 3 and 5 million. He was an accountant at a largish family owned company. He had the books so altered that they never really figured out an exact number. When busted he had a 500/month apartment, a rusted out beater car and a few bucks in checking. He did 2 years in a minimum security facility. He never talked and the company never found the cash.... He wasn't a dummy so the best guess is the money is buried or offshore somewhere. He claimed he gambled it away.... |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:48:30 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How long will $90K last in Thailand? I'll bet not as long as he thought. That's a lot of lady boys. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 8:49:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I am one of two(OP) who read the article. "Police said Brown, who they believe worked at the fuel center, stole the money while an employee tasked with flagging fraudulent transactions was on vacation for two weeks." This isn't a $100 return.
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