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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:41:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My desk is super skerry! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/103177/A590DE47-7CA8-41F9-AD6C-DF6E55E4A39A-1789339.jpg If the US fails as a nation, Texas should declare independence and become their own country. They could rival European superpowers like the UK and France in pretty much every aspect. Gun ownership would probably be made mandatory as well 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:50:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the US fails as a nation, Texas should declare independence and become their own country. They could rival European superpowers like the UK and France in pretty much every aspect. Gun ownership would probably be made mandatory as well Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My desk is super skerry! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/103177/A590DE47-7CA8-41F9-AD6C-DF6E55E4A39A-1789339.jpg If the US fails as a nation, Texas should declare independence and become their own country. They could rival European superpowers like the UK and France in pretty much every aspect. Gun ownership would probably be made mandatory as well  There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:53:27 AM EDT
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Pathetic...
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:53:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: My desk is super skerry! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/103177/A590DE47-7CA8-41F9-AD6C-DF6E55E4A39A-1789339.jpg If the US fails as a nation, Texas should declare independence and become their own country. They could rival European superpowers like the UK and France in pretty much every aspect. Gun ownership would probably be made mandatory as well There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. Hell, if you do, I’ll be the first in line for a Texan citizenship
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:54:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: My desk is super skerry! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/103177/A590DE47-7CA8-41F9-AD6C-DF6E55E4A39A-1789339.jpg If the US fails as a nation, Texas should declare independence and become their own country. They could rival European superpowers like the UK and France in pretty much every aspect. Gun ownership would probably be made mandatory as well There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. I heard about that. Made me smile. 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:58:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, that doesn't happen. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: how do they cut food? There has been a huge uptick in stabbing crimes in the UK. They have responded by banning all sorts of knives, giving more 'search for no reason' power to police, and are requiring 'anti-stab' knives. They've been making these things for over 10 years now https://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/knife.jpg https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as “search for no reason”. Stop making shit up. Compare the requirements for a Terry frisk in the US, identifying a specific suspect and suspicion of a crime, vs various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it. Kharn Yeah, that doesn't happen. Hmm? The stop and search process A police officer or a police community support officer (PCSO) in uniform can stop you but only police officers can search you. A police officer does not have to be in uniform but they must show you their warrant (ID) card. They can search you, anything you are carrying and a vehicle. What you should be told The police officer or police community support officer must explain why you're being stopped and why you're being asked to account for your actions or presence in an area. In almost all cases, you should be offered a record of the stop and account or stop and search at the time it happens. The police use these powers to help make the local community safer by preventing and detecting crime. Naturally, public cooperation is an essential part of that. Where you can be searched Stop and search most often happens in public places. However, there are some powers, such as searching for firearms or drugs, which allow police to search people anywhere. If you're in a public place, you may be required to remove your coat or jacket and your gloves, unless you've been stopped in relation to terrorism or where the officer believes you are using clothes to hide your identity. ... The search is not voluntary. If you don’t cooperate the officer can use reasonable force to conduct the search. Section 60 Orders under section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act allow officers to stop and search people with no grounds for suspicion. Police are only supposed to authorise the use of section 60 when there has been serious violence or where there is a risk it may occur in a particular area. Section 60 – ‘without suspicion searches’ Sometimes ordinary stop and search powers aren't enough to keep communities safe as people can only be stopped and searched if the officer has reasonable grounds. A Section 60 allows police officers to stop and search people even if they don't have suspicions about them. If a senior officer believes incidents of serious violence will take place in a specific area, or that people will be carrying weapons, and it is necessary to use these powers then they may put a Section 60 in place. It doesn't even take a judge to suspend a community's rights.  Kharn |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:03:12 AM EDT
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But on the plus side the British police don't usually shoot your dog or do no knock warrants shoot you and your dog.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:04:20 AM EDT
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Quoted: Seriously people no, no they havnt. I've never sever seen one of those knives it was a idea by some left wing nutter. Just like your left wing nutters have it never took off. But yes our police are fucking useless and we have shit laws that they "can" use. I have leathermans and sogs all over the place. If I'm pulled up they won't search me. If they raid a house of a drug dealer and they find that yes they will take it. I honestly don't remember the last time I saw a cop and I've never been searched or questioned for anything Quoted: Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as "search for no reason". Stop making shit up. Well, there it is. lol... |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:05:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell, if you do, I’ll be the first in line for a Texan citizenship Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My desk is super skerry! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/103177/A590DE47-7CA8-41F9-AD6C-DF6E55E4A39A-1789339.jpg If the US fails as a nation, Texas should declare independence and become their own country. They could rival European superpowers like the UK and France in pretty much every aspect. Gun ownership would probably be made mandatory as well There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. Hell, if you do, I’ll be the first in line for a Texan citizenship Bring it on. The more guns the merrier.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:05:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I heard about that. Made me smile. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My desk is super skerry! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/103177/A590DE47-7CA8-41F9-AD6C-DF6E55E4A39A-1789339.jpg If the US fails as a nation, Texas should declare independence and become their own country. They could rival European superpowers like the UK and France in pretty much every aspect. Gun ownership would probably be made mandatory as well There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. I heard about that. Made me smile. So you're in the states now? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:05:35 AM EDT
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Thumbs down ya wanker.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:09:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure it is a Leatherman wave. I can't imagine trying to use one as a "deadly weapon". How the hell do tradespeople there get by without knives and other sharp objects? They would probably call the SWAT team if they saw what I had in the back of my work truck. Have an axe and a machete in my offroad truck too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sorta looks like the Leatherman Wave I've stuffed into a kitchen drawer, if it is I agree withe the thumbs down gesture the mighty police woman is giving. Pretty sure it is a Leatherman wave. I can't imagine trying to use one as a "deadly weapon". How the hell do tradespeople there get by without knives and other sharp objects? They would probably call the SWAT team if they saw what I had in the back of my work truck. Have an axe and a machete in my offroad truck too. It is a perfect example of where "spirit of the law" was ruined by "letter of the law". A law was passed to essentially prohibit dagger type knives being possessed in public. At the time lots of stabbings were happening. When writing the legislation, they exempted "pocket knives with NON-LOCKING blades under 3" - basically your little swiss army type knife - as it was argued it was not likely to be used for stabbing. Multi tools were not around when the lesislation was drafted. And it was never written to cover tools - it was written to cover knives used in stabbing. However, in most multi tools the blade locks so it TECHNICALLY falls into the wrong category. There is an EXEMPTION for possession in public if you have GOOD REASON. On your way fishing or hunting. Carried as part of your work etc. HOWEVER, it is SUBJECTIVE - The cop decides whether your reason is good enough. And sends you to court for the magistrate to decide on your guilt or innocence. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:12:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as “search for no reason”. Stop making shit up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: how do they cut food? There has been a huge uptick in stabbing crimes in the UK. They have responded by banning all sorts of knives, giving more 'search for no reason' power to police, and are requiring 'anti-stab' knives. They've been making these things for over 10 years now https://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/knife.jpg https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as “search for no reason”. Stop making shit up. Yes - generally speaking there has to be acreason for a search. BUT.......it is a condition of entry to certain venues. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:17:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They’d stroke out if they saw that I carried just to go the store. This. And by their logic I my tools should've killed at least 3-5 of the people I come into contact with while there. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:17:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmm? Section 60 Section 60 – ‘without suspicion searches’ It doesn't even take a judge to suspend a community's rights. Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: how do they cut food? There has been a huge uptick in stabbing crimes in the UK. They have responded by banning all sorts of knives, giving more 'search for no reason' power to police, and are requiring 'anti-stab' knives. They've been making these things for over 10 years now https://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/knife.jpg https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as “search for no reason”. Stop making shit up. Compare the requirements for a Terry frisk in the US, identifying a specific suspect and suspicion of a crime, vs various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it. Kharn Yeah, that doesn't happen. Hmm? The stop and search process A police officer or a police community support officer (PCSO) in uniform can stop you but only police officers can search you. A police officer does not have to be in uniform but they must show you their warrant (ID) card. They can search you, anything you are carrying and a vehicle. What you should be told The police officer or police community support officer must explain why you're being stopped and why you're being asked to account for your actions or presence in an area. In almost all cases, you should be offered a record of the stop and account or stop and search at the time it happens. The police use these powers to help make the local community safer by preventing and detecting crime. Naturally, public cooperation is an essential part of that. Where you can be searched Stop and search most often happens in public places. However, there are some powers, such as searching for firearms or drugs, which allow police to search people anywhere. If you're in a public place, you may be required to remove your coat or jacket and your gloves, unless you've been stopped in relation to terrorism or where the officer believes you are using clothes to hide your identity. ... The search is not voluntary. If you don’t cooperate the officer can use reasonable force to conduct the search. Section 60 Orders under section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act allow officers to stop and search people with no grounds for suspicion. Police are only supposed to authorise the use of section 60 when there has been serious violence or where there is a risk it may occur in a particular area. Section 60 – ‘without suspicion searches’ Sometimes ordinary stop and search powers aren't enough to keep communities safe as people can only be stopped and searched if the officer has reasonable grounds. A Section 60 allows police officers to stop and search people even if they don't have suspicions about them. If a senior officer believes incidents of serious violence will take place in a specific area, or that people will be carrying weapons, and it is necessary to use these powers then they may put a Section 60 in place. It doesn't even take a judge to suspend a community's rights. Kharn Thats not the same as what you claimed, and I quote you: "various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it" It has happened occasionally for limited durations for targeted, specific groups where there is a specific threat in very specific (often rich and vibrant) areas associated with gang violence. Even that is a stretch on policing sources. For everyone else in the UK they have never, and will never be anywhere near such measures, let alone be affected by them. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:20:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you're in the states now? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My desk is super skerry! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/103177/A590DE47-7CA8-41F9-AD6C-DF6E55E4A39A-1789339.jpg If the US fails as a nation, Texas should declare independence and become their own country. They could rival European superpowers like the UK and France in pretty much every aspect. Gun ownership would probably be made mandatory as well There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. I heard about that. Made me smile. So you're in the states now? Nah - Just a bit of an experimental change - the Britbong flag seems to trigger some folks, so though I'd try something different. 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:20:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:21:19 AM EDT
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Make up your minds
Are you a Constable or are you a Police Officer. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:21:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah - Just a bit of an experimental change - the Britbong flag seems to trigger some folks, so though I'd try something different. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My desk is super skerry! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/103177/A590DE47-7CA8-41F9-AD6C-DF6E55E4A39A-1789339.jpg If the US fails as a nation, Texas should declare independence and become their own country. They could rival European superpowers like the UK and France in pretty much every aspect. Gun ownership would probably be made mandatory as well There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. I heard about that. Made me smile. So you're in the states now? Nah - Just a bit of an experimental change - the Britbong flag seems to trigger some folks, so though I'd try something different. Roger that. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:22:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can Florida come too? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. I'd prolly be ok for the majority of the southern states to join. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:22:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, that doesn't happen. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: how do they cut food? There has been a huge uptick in stabbing crimes in the UK. They have responded by banning all sorts of knives, giving more 'search for no reason' power to police, and are requiring 'anti-stab' knives. They've been making these things for over 10 years now https://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/knife.jpg https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg location. Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as “search for no reason”. Stop making shit up. Compare the requirements for a Terry frisk in the US, identifying a specific suspect and suspicion of a crime, vs various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it. Kharn Yeah, that doesn't happen. Edit - already covered by Agent Funky. It does. But is VERY RARELY done. Has to be authorised for a set period and set location by Ch Supt. Gives power to stop and seaech anybody you want in that |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:22:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes - generally speaking there has to be acreason for a search. BUT.......it is a condition of entry to certain venues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: how do they cut food? There has been a huge uptick in stabbing crimes in the UK. They have responded by banning all sorts of knives, giving more 'search for no reason' power to police, and are requiring 'anti-stab' knives. They've been making these things for over 10 years now https://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/knife.jpg https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as “search for no reason”. Stop making shit up. Yes - generally speaking there has to be acreason for a search. BUT.......it is a condition of entry to certain venues. Yep. Court buildings, Airports and the like. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:23:00 AM EDT
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The Germans should invade and take over the country to prove a point...
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:25:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Make up your minds Are you a Constable or are you a Police Officer. I suspect nost prefer Police Officer. Constable morphed into "Cunt-Stubble" is now somewhat frowned upon in an informal setting.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:25:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cite? Never heard that happening. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: how do they cut food? There has been a huge uptick in stabbing crimes in the UK. They have responded by banning all sorts of knives, giving more 'search for no reason' power to police, and are requiring 'anti-stab' knives. They've been making these things for over 10 years now https://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/knife.jpg https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as “search for no reason”. Stop making shit up. Compare the requirements for a Terry frisk in the US, identifying a specific suspect and suspicion of a crime, vs various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it. Kharn Cite? Never heard that happening. I did it 3 times over 20 years. Usually intel driven. Last time was Harrow Bus Station. Somali teens had called out West Indian teens to a gang fight ( after school - I kid you not ) at the bus station. We were authorised to search anybody for an hour in that area. Shit load of machetes recovered. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:26:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats not the same as what you claimed, and I quote you: "various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it" It has happened occasionally for limited durations for targeted, specific groups where there is a specific threat in very specific (often rich and vibrant) areas associated with gang violence. Even that is a stretch on policing sources. For everyone else in the UK they have never, and will never be anywhere near such measures, let alone be affected by them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: how do they cut food? There has been a huge uptick in stabbing crimes in the UK. They have responded by banning all sorts of knives, giving more 'search for no reason' power to police, and are requiring 'anti-stab' knives. They've been making these things for over 10 years now https://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/knife.jpg https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as “search for no reason”. Stop making shit up. Compare the requirements for a Terry frisk in the US, identifying a specific suspect and suspicion of a crime, vs various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it. Kharn Yeah, that doesn't happen. Hmm? The stop and search process A police officer or a police community support officer (PCSO) in uniform can stop you but only police officers can search you. A police officer does not have to be in uniform but they must show you their warrant (ID) card. They can search you, anything you are carrying and a vehicle. What you should be told The police officer or police community support officer must explain why you're being stopped and why you're being asked to account for your actions or presence in an area. In almost all cases, you should be offered a record of the stop and account or stop and search at the time it happens. The police use these powers to help make the local community safer by preventing and detecting crime. Naturally, public cooperation is an essential part of that. Where you can be searched Stop and search most often happens in public places. However, there are some powers, such as searching for firearms or drugs, which allow police to search people anywhere. If you're in a public place, you may be required to remove your coat or jacket and your gloves, unless you've been stopped in relation to terrorism or where the officer believes you are using clothes to hide your identity. ... The search is not voluntary. If you don’t cooperate the officer can use reasonable force to conduct the search. Section 60 Orders under section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act allow officers to stop and search people with no grounds for suspicion. Police are only supposed to authorise the use of section 60 when there has been serious violence or where there is a risk it may occur in a particular area. Section 60 – ‘without suspicion searches’ Sometimes ordinary stop and search powers aren't enough to keep communities safe as people can only be stopped and searched if the officer has reasonable grounds. A Section 60 allows police officers to stop and search people even if they don't have suspicions about them. If a senior officer believes incidents of serious violence will take place in a specific area, or that people will be carrying weapons, and it is necessary to use these powers then they may put a Section 60 in place. It doesn't even take a judge to suspend a community's rights. Kharn Thats not the same as what you claimed, and I quote you: "various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it" It has happened occasionally for limited durations for targeted, specific groups where there is a specific threat in very specific (often rich and vibrant) areas associated with gang violence. Even that is a stretch on policing sources. For everyone else in the UK they have never, and will never be anywhere near such measures, let alone be affected by them. So because someone is in a minority-majority shitty neighborhood they have less rights than white people, and they're able to be searched whenever the sergeant on duty feels like rounding up some Arabs or Africans to fill the jail? I've seen several come up in my Facebook feed over the years of the PD bragging about the shitty weapons they recovered, and videos of them harassing people on the street while carrying out their searches while all the comments from the US roasted them. Yes, they typically did harass minorities. Kharn |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:37:50 AM EDT
[#27]
A leatherman?
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:38:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So because someone is in a minority-majority shitty neighborhood they have less rights than white people, and they're able to be searched whenever the sergeant on duty feels like rounding up some Arabs or Africans to fill the jail? I've seen several come up in my Facebook feed over the years of the PD bragging about the shitty weapons they recovered, and videos of them harassing people on the street while carrying out their searches while all the comments from the US roasted them. Yes, they typically did harass minorities. Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: how do they cut food? There has been a huge uptick in stabbing crimes in the UK. They have responded by banning all sorts of knives, giving more 'search for no reason' power to police, and are requiring 'anti-stab' knives. They've been making these things for over 10 years now https://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/knife.jpg https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as “search for no reason”. Stop making shit up. Compare the requirements for a Terry frisk in the US, identifying a specific suspect and suspicion of a crime, vs various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it. Kharn Yeah, that doesn't happen. Hmm? The stop and search process A police officer or a police community support officer (PCSO) in uniform can stop you but only police officers can search you. A police officer does not have to be in uniform but they must show you their warrant (ID) card. They can search you, anything you are carrying and a vehicle. What you should be told The police officer or police community support officer must explain why you're being stopped and why you're being asked to account for your actions or presence in an area. In almost all cases, you should be offered a record of the stop and account or stop and search at the time it happens. The police use these powers to help make the local community safer by preventing and detecting crime. Naturally, public cooperation is an essential part of that. Where you can be searched Stop and search most often happens in public places. However, there are some powers, such as searching for firearms or drugs, which allow police to search people anywhere. If you're in a public place, you may be required to remove your coat or jacket and your gloves, unless you've been stopped in relation to terrorism or where the officer believes you are using clothes to hide your identity. ... The search is not voluntary. If you don’t cooperate the officer can use reasonable force to conduct the search. Section 60 Orders under section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act allow officers to stop and search people with no grounds for suspicion. Police are only supposed to authorise the use of section 60 when there has been serious violence or where there is a risk it may occur in a particular area. Section 60 – ‘without suspicion searches’ Sometimes ordinary stop and search powers aren't enough to keep communities safe as people can only be stopped and searched if the officer has reasonable grounds. A Section 60 allows police officers to stop and search people even if they don't have suspicions about them. If a senior officer believes incidents of serious violence will take place in a specific area, or that people will be carrying weapons, and it is necessary to use these powers then they may put a Section 60 in place. It doesn't even take a judge to suspend a community's rights. Kharn Thats not the same as what you claimed, and I quote you: "various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it" It has happened occasionally for limited durations for targeted, specific groups where there is a specific threat in very specific (often rich and vibrant) areas associated with gang violence. Even that is a stretch on policing sources. For everyone else in the UK they have never, and will never be anywhere near such measures, let alone be affected by them. So because someone is in a minority-majority shitty neighborhood they have less rights than white people, and they're able to be searched whenever the sergeant on duty feels like rounding up some Arabs or Africans to fill the jail? I've seen several come up in my Facebook feed over the years of the PD bragging about the shitty weapons they recovered, and videos of them harassing people on the street while carrying out their searches while all the comments from the US roasted them. Yes, they typically did harass minorities. Kharn As I stated - last time I saw it authorised ( and I used it ) was a bus station in a respectable town centre ( which happened to fall between two rival gang turfs ) And not by a Sergeant. Has to be Ch Superintendent ( think Police Captain or higher maybe in USA ) who has to submit a report to the Commissioner or Ch Constable ( your Chief of Police ) Yes, I saw racism when I worked in London. Was worse ( more blatant ) in 1991 ( especially in the officers who joined in 1970's or 80s and still serving ) and has improved a lot since. Still not perfect. US police has a racism issue too. I could offer an opinion on whose police are more racist - you would not like it. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:39:34 AM EDT
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Im so glad our founders stuffed that “make the world England” policy right up their ass.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:41:38 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So because someone is in a minority-majority shitty neighborhood they have less rights than white people, and they're able to be searched whenever the sergeant on duty feels like rounding up some Arabs or Africans to fill the jail? I've seen several come up in my Facebook feed over the years of the PD bragging about the shitty weapons they recovered, and videos of them harassing people on the street while carrying out their searches while all the comments from the US roasted them. Yes, they typically did harass minorities. Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: how do they cut food? There has been a huge uptick in stabbing crimes in the UK. They have responded by banning all sorts of knives, giving more 'search for no reason' power to police, and are requiring 'anti-stab' knives. They've been making these things for over 10 years now https://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/knife.jpg https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3630027936_caffc95f7d_o.jpg Never seen one. Ever. Nor are they required. No such thing as “search for no reason”. Stop making shit up. Compare the requirements for a Terry frisk in the US, identifying a specific suspect and suspicion of a crime, vs various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it. Kharn Yeah, that doesn't happen. Hmm? The stop and search process A police officer or a police community support officer (PCSO) in uniform can stop you but only police officers can search you. A police officer does not have to be in uniform but they must show you their warrant (ID) card. They can search you, anything you are carrying and a vehicle. What you should be told The police officer or police community support officer must explain why you're being stopped and why you're being asked to account for your actions or presence in an area. In almost all cases, you should be offered a record of the stop and account or stop and search at the time it happens. The police use these powers to help make the local community safer by preventing and detecting crime. Naturally, public cooperation is an essential part of that. Where you can be searched Stop and search most often happens in public places. However, there are some powers, such as searching for firearms or drugs, which allow police to search people anywhere. If you're in a public place, you may be required to remove your coat or jacket and your gloves, unless you've been stopped in relation to terrorism or where the officer believes you are using clothes to hide your identity. ... The search is not voluntary. If you don’t cooperate the officer can use reasonable force to conduct the search. Section 60 Orders under section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act allow officers to stop and search people with no grounds for suspicion. Police are only supposed to authorise the use of section 60 when there has been serious violence or where there is a risk it may occur in a particular area. Section 60 – ‘without suspicion searches’ Sometimes ordinary stop and search powers aren't enough to keep communities safe as people can only be stopped and searched if the officer has reasonable grounds. A Section 60 allows police officers to stop and search people even if they don't have suspicions about them. If a senior officer believes incidents of serious violence will take place in a specific area, or that people will be carrying weapons, and it is necessary to use these powers then they may put a Section 60 in place. It doesn't even take a judge to suspend a community's rights. Kharn Thats not the same as what you claimed, and I quote you: "various UK PDs searching everyone in the street that crosses a certain block and boasting about it" It has happened occasionally for limited durations for targeted, specific groups where there is a specific threat in very specific (often rich and vibrant) areas associated with gang violence. Even that is a stretch on policing sources. For everyone else in the UK they have never, and will never be anywhere near such measures, let alone be affected by them. So because someone is in a minority-majority shitty neighborhood they have less rights than white people, and they're able to be searched whenever the sergeant on duty feels like rounding up some Arabs or Africans to fill the jail? I've seen several come up in my Facebook feed over the years of the PD bragging about the shitty weapons they recovered, and videos of them harassing people on the street while carrying out their searches while all the comments from the US roasted them. Yes, they typically did harass minorities. Kharn That's not what is says ether. You keep grasping at straws with your weak strawman though, yeah? Also, try not getting your news through Facebook. 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:45:07 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm so glad my parents left England when they did. Me too. My birth country is an embarrassment. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:47:50 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Me too. My birth country is an embarrassment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm so glad my parents left England when they did. Me too. My birth country is an embarrassment. I wish I made the move earlier. Better late than never. And I certainly picked an interesting time to arrive. ( Jan 2020 )
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:49:20 AM EDT
[#33]
morons....
all of them.... hated my fucken time at Hull... garbage keystone cops at Humberside.... most stupidest cops in the entire history of the civilized world. They arrested me for practicing being a mechanic without a license for simply changing a car battery. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:52:24 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: morons.... all of them.... hated my fucken time at Hull... garbage keystone cops at Humberside.... most stupidest cops in the entire history of the civilized world. They arrested me for practicing being a mechanic without a license for simply changing a car battery. My knowledge is somewhat obsolete but I do not remember any offence of "practicing being a mechanic without a license" nor any power of arrest associated with it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:52:35 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Germans should invade and take over the country to prove a point... With what army?
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:53:23 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: how do they cut food? Have you seen their teeth? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:54:00 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish I made the move earlier. Better late than never. And I certainly picked an interesting time to arrive. ( Jan 2020 ) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm so glad my parents left England when they did. Me too. My birth country is an embarrassment. I wish I made the move earlier. Better late than never. And I certainly picked an interesting time to arrive. ( Jan 2020 ) You an ex cop from Britain? How did you get to the US, if you don’t mind me asking? I would like to make the move myself one day. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:55:06 AM EDT
[#38]
What the living F?
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:56:46 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: morons.... all of them.... hated my fucken time at Hull... garbage keystone cops at Humberside.... most stupidest cops in the entire history of the civilized world. They arrested me for practicing being a mechanic without a license for simply changing a car battery. You're either bullshitting or there is a LOT more to that story than you are letting on. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:57:26 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What an embarrassment to humanity. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:58:24 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You an ex cop from Britain? How did you get to the US, if you don’t mind me asking? I would like to make the move myself one day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm so glad my parents left England when they did. Me too. My birth country is an embarrassment. I wish I made the move earlier. Better late than never. And I certainly picked an interesting time to arrive. ( Jan 2020 ) You an ex cop from Britain? How did you get to the US, if you don’t mind me asking? I would like to make the move myself one day. I had intended taking my house proceeds and pension lump sum and going down the investor route to green card in a few years. I was over here frequently, shooting matches, vacations and shotshow - met a girl.........  That altered my schedule somewhat. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:00:11 AM EDT
[#42]
I just don't even know what to say. They are like 3 steps away from "we have to arrest you because you might commit a crime."
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:04:52 AM EDT
[#43]
Level 6 pussy unlocked.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:11:16 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A long way below the country that just voted Joe Biden as President. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Those are some derpy looking constables. If we ranked the most pussified countries in the world, I wonder where the Britain formerly known as Great Britain would rank? A long way below the country that just voted Joe Biden as President. Close it down. He owns the thread with that one. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:12:25 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I had intended taking my house proceeds and pension lump sum and going down the investor route to green card in a few years. I was over here frequently, shooting matches, vacations and shotshow - met a girl......... That altered my schedule somewhat. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm so glad my parents left England when they did. Me too. My birth country is an embarrassment. I wish I made the move earlier. Better late than never. And I certainly picked an interesting time to arrive. ( Jan 2020 ) You an ex cop from Britain? How did you get to the US, if you don’t mind me asking? I would like to make the move myself one day. I had intended taking my house proceeds and pension lump sum and going down the investor route to green card in a few years. I was over here frequently, shooting matches, vacations and shotshow - met a girl......... That altered my schedule somewhat. Congrats on the move then, happy it worked out for you Everyone has always told me the fiancé route was the best way to eventually get a GC. That, or having loads of cash to invest in a company. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:16:38 AM EDT
[#46]
pathetic
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:20:36 AM EDT
[#47]
Seriously is that illegal there?
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:20:53 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A long way below the country that just voted Joe Biden as President. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Those are some derpy looking constables. If we ranked the most pussified countries in the world, I wonder where the Britain formerly known as Great Britain would rank? A long way below the country that just voted Joe Biden as President. Touche. You're not wrong. Looks like they plan to put us all in the global gulag this time, mates. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:24:33 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: My desk is super skerry! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/103177/A590DE47-7CA8-41F9-AD6C-DF6E55E4A39A-1789339.jpg If the US fails as a nation, Texas should declare independence and become their own country. They could rival European superpowers like the UK and France in pretty much every aspect. Gun ownership would probably be made mandatory as well There actually is a bill waiting to be heard that is about seceding. I'm ready to make the move. TX is the only other state I would want to call home. My wife and I will cancel out 2 Californian imported votes, with 2 kids for the next generation as well. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:28:29 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Once the greatest empire on Earth  An empire of which the sun never set.
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