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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:38:25 AM EDT
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Does Trump like olives? Has Trump ever driven a Dodge? Can Trump drive a manual shift?
Who gives a fuck? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:47:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mayhap some sort of cheating device in the tube of his gun...to choke off the shot. A...choke...tube of some sort maybe... Lmao 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:25:51 AM EDT
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I don't know, but he has screwed a super model!
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:28:21 AM EDT
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In the 90s his security team would use our range after hours. The kids and the then Marla Maples would come somewhat often. The boys loved shooting. Donald never went. He just wasnt into it.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:29:23 AM EDT
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Wayne LaPierre never uses the NRA HQ range.
Don't ask me how I know. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:31:19 AM EDT
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Yes...
I chatted for a long long time with Don Trump Jr..... at SHOT show years ago and his dad has a massive SIG collection and carries the SIG 230 or whatever.. that sig that looks like a PPK. also some extremely limited and rare 220s and 226s and various other SIGS. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:32:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wayne LaPierre never uses the NRA HQ range. Don't ask me how I know. 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:34:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: I am not making a political statement of any kind. However, I was thinking back on Trump’s presidency today, and for some reason it occurred to me...I’ve never seen a pic of Trump shooting. I mean, even Obama has that photo of him shooting a break action shotgun. I think it’s fairly clear he’s not, at the very least, a huge “gun guy”. But does anyone know if he’s ever even pulled the trigger on a firearm? No. Only assumptions he shoots his carry piece...unlike so many people who never do. His permit was a vanity thing; he has security, he doesn't need it, but NYC leaders give them out as a recognition of influence. The Fudd guns he was given at NRA functions were non-firing replicas, which is reasonable since NYC is a bitch to bring guns into under any circumstance. He's never been seen holding a real gun, let alone firing one. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:35:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you need to display competency with a handgun to get a carry permit in NY? Carrying a pistol and actually training with one are two very different things. Eta: for spelling and to clarify that I'm not a Trump hater. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: His NY carry permit leaked years back. I want to say he had a PPk and a J frame? Do you need to display competency with a handgun to get a carry permit in NY? Carrying a pistol and actually training with one are two very different things. Eta: for spelling and to clarify that I'm not a Trump hater. No. NYC permit system is simply to put obstacles to average people getting a pistol. The rich can get pistol permits without ever knowing how to shoot a pistol. Completely un-American. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:35:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does Trump like olives? Has Trump ever driven a Dodge? Can Trump drive a manual shift? Who gives a fuck? People sure gave a shit Obama was never seen shooting. Enough Democrats even, that Biden let him borrow his Beretta for a photo op. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:36:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's been known to carry a pistol so yes, I imagine (or at least hope) so. I doubt he has ever carried even once. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:37:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes... I chatted for a long long time with Don Trump Jr..... at SHOT show years ago and his dad has a massive SIG collection and carries the SIG 230 or whatever.. that sig that looks like a PPK. also some extremely limited and rare 220s and 226s and various other SIGS. At this point I'd trust that guy's claims about his father as far as I can throw him. He bold-faced lied about pretty much everything to do with his father's administration and gun policy. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:39:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: I am not making a political statement of any kind. However, I was thinking back on Trump’s presidency today, and for some reason it occurred to me...I’ve never seen a pic of Trump shooting. I mean, even Obama has that photo of him shooting a break action shotgun. I think it’s fairly clear he’s not, at the very least, a huge “gun guy”. But does anyone know if he’s ever even pulled the trigger on a firearm? Obama shot like a chump. It was for show. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:50:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NYC carry permits are I guess, that's different than the rest of the state. My permit states it's no good in the city. Non residents can sort of get permits now I think you need to own property Let's say someone living in NYC goes to an upstate gun shop and says "I want to buy this shotgun". Can he/she do that or are they automatically told to fuck off because they live in NYC and need another license? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:14:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does Trump like olives? Has Trump ever driven a Dodge? Can Trump drive a manual shift? Who gives a fuck? The way I see it, there’s two possibilities: 1) he’s never actually shot a gun, which - quite possibly - might make him one of very few, if not the first president in US history to not have done so. That would be an interesting historical quirk to me. 2) we can establish that he has, which would be equally interesting to me to know what he’s into. We have one poster in here saying he has a big SIG collection and carries a P232...to me, that’s equally interesting. I put it in bold letters at the very top that I was not making a political statement of any kind. This is purely out of benign curiosity. I didn’t ask about olives or driving habits because, last I checked, this isn’t primarily a cooking or car forum. Feel free to go crap in any of the other 10,000 pointless threads GD produces each day. 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:18:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Obama shot like a chump. It was for show. Well obviously; it was a pure cheap photo op with the most fudd-type gun in existence. But it still counts as having discharged a firearm, if even only in the purely technical sense. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:20:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NYS carry permits are as rare as hens teeth. Non residents need not apply. NYS permits are common. Non-resident is possible if you OWN a residence. NY CITY carry permits are indeed rare. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:22:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According with this video "he said that he often, if not always, carries a firearm":  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW8R5gxuPtkAccording to one of his former bodyguards, not true. I smoke cigars with him a few times a year and he told me he never witnessed Trump carry a gun. I don't doubt he maintains his permit, no idea what the Secret Service's opinion on a protectee carrying. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:25:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to one of his former bodyguards, not true. I smoke cigars with him a few times a year and he told me he never witnessed Trump carry a gun. I don't doubt he maintains his permit, no idea what the Secret Service's opinion on a protectee carrying.  (for smoking cigars with the bodyguard) |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:29:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His NY carry permit leaked years back. I want to say he had a PPk and a J frame? I bet that it's a Pearl Handled Gold Plated .45. 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:40:19 AM EDT
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There was a thread on this site some years ago about DJT visiting some sheriffs or LEOs, I think in NC, and shooting an AR15 at their range with them, but he asked that no photos be taken. The deputies commented that he was a good shot.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:54:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you need to display competency with a handgun to get a carry permit in NY? Carrying a pistol and actually training with one are two very different things. Eta: for spelling and to clarify that I'm not a Trump hater. To my knowledge it varies by county. I don't believe my county has any type of course to get a ccw but the judge doesn't give them out easily, and you have to show legitimate reason for having it. Neighboring County does have a qualification standard you must pass, and if you can pass, you can get it. NYC is whole different animal For what it's worth my permit says "type:sportsman" on the front but on the back says i am "authorized to possess and carry the following pistols..." but I was also told when I got my permit you can't carry.. so wtfk? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 12:04:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt he has ever carried even once. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He's been known to carry a pistol so yes, I imagine (or at least hope) so. I doubt he has ever carried even once. I’ll bet he has. He is an aggressive person, not afraid of things. Remember when someone went after him on stage when he was running in 2016? He was ready to fight. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 12:12:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well obviously; it was a pure cheap photo op with the most fudd-type gun in existence. But it still counts as having discharged a firearm, if even only in the purely technical sense.    |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 12:14:36 PM EDT
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So was this not real?
 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 12:18:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: (for smoking cigars with the bodyguard)Actually two of them, both retired NYPD with family in the Albany area. I see them when they come up to visit their family. Not my friends, friends of friends, but the lounge I hang out at a few times a week is where the government insiders hang out and network. Haven't seen them as much with COVID, but typically around the bigger holidays. This topic came up a few days ago in another thread, and I was reading the thread while at the lounge with one of my buddies who knows one of the former bodyguards. We got him on the phone and I asked, that's why I'm comfortable in stating that - just asked him within the past few days. They are actually pretty cool guys, very down to Earth in a rough New York City kind of way... but they have nothing but positive things to say about Trump and his generosity, and they shared a few stories about how when Trump caught wind of problems they were having in their lives the problems just seemed to go away. Usually revolved around an illness of a family member, that kind of thing. I'm not Trump's biggest fan, but hardly a Never Trumper. Voted for him twice. Met him once but he wouldn't remember me from Adam. But I am close to several people that are/were in his immediate circle from former Members of Congress, to real estate attorneys who worked for him going back to the 90s, to some of his former bodyguards. ALL fiercely loyal to this day. I don't think I've ever seen somebody so maligned and who was able to withstand so much. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 12:26:56 PM EDT
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I know a guy who knows a guy, let me tell you, you can trust me on this. After getting elected President, Trump got into building AR15s big time. He enjoys cruising the "Build it Yourself" forum on here. He made the Secret Service install a Harbor Freight vise in the basement down by the swimming pool for doing barrel swaps. Rumor is Melania's been frustrated for a while now with him ignoring her and constantly changing configurations on his "builds." Hence the rumors for the classic ARFCOM curse-style divorce that's impending.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 1:43:57 PM EDT
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I doubt he's fired more than 10 rounds his entire life.
Never put a worm on a hook. Never ridden a Harley. Never had a can of Bud with hunting buddies. Never eaten pizza with his hands. Never hung out with anyone that attended any of his rallies. He was all smoke and mirrors. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 1:45:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2021 1:45:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know a guy who knows a guy, let me tell you, you can trust me on this. After getting elected President, Trump got into building AR15s big time. He enjoys cruising the "Build it Yourself" forum on here. He made the Secret Service install a Harbor Freight vise in the basement down by the swimming pool for doing barrel swaps. Rumor is Melania's been frustrated for a while now with him ignoring her and constantly changing configurations on his "builds." Hence the rumors for the classic ARFCOM curse-style divorce that's impending. If that's directed at me there are more than a few people here who know what I do for a living and my personal circle and professional network... And when I say a few people, I'm referring to staff, mods and the people who are responsible for this site being here. 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:48:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no photo of FBHO firing a shotgun. There exists a shitty photoshop of FBHO firing a shotgun. Trump has a New York carry permit, so it's pretty much a given that he's fired one or more of his handguns. ETA: I just remembered an interview somebody did with an NG commander whose unit Trump visited back in the early days of his admin. The commander claimed Trump knew his way around an AR, and was a decent shot. Trump went to military school in the 1960s during his high school years. Very likely that he qualified with some sort of service rifle during that time. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:06:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump went to military school in the 1960s during his high school years. Very likely that he qualified with some sort of service rifle during that time. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:08:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes; hence the word "real" directly above it. Is literally everything a conspiracy here?  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You saying he was actually firing the shotgun in that second pic? Yes; hence the word "real" directly above it. Is literally everything a conspiracy here? You're wrong. Look at his stance. He may be holding it, but he ain't firing is. And shove your "conspiracy theory" up your ass. That phrase lives with "racist" now in the bin of meaningless counters. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 7:21:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He could have qualed with a .22LR for all we know. He's not a gun guy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Trump went to military school in the 1960s during his high school years. Very likely that he qualified with some sort of service rifle during that time. Uhm... Miami? You trying to tell us a .22LR isn't a firearm? 'Cause I'm pretty sure I heard from some industry guys it's a firearm. Just sayin'. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:42:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes... I chatted for a long long time with Don Trump Jr..... at SHOT show years ago and his dad has a massive SIG collection and carries the SIG 230 or whatever.. that sig that looks like a PPK. P239 ?  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:45:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a thread on this site some years ago about DJT visiting some sheriffs or LEOs, I think in NC, and shooting an AR15 at their range with them, but he asked that no photos be taken. The deputies commented that he was a good shot. I have a pictureof this. Just haven't found it yet. DJT holding/aiming a short barreled AR and wearing earmuffs. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 8:47:28 PM EDT
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"your" second amendment.
But keep beleiving he Better than his opposition, but he was no Cruz or Paul |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:32:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know anything about NYC, my guess is he got his permit before some areas started making you take an nra class. Do you have to shoot in the nra class? There aren't many places you can shoot in NYC Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you need to display competency with a handgun to get a carry permit in NY? Carrying a pistol and actually training with one are two very different things. Eta: for spelling and to clarify that I'm not a Trump hater. Yes, the NRA classes require shooting. Prior to a couple of years ago, there was no formal standard for how WELL you had to shoot. Now there are specific targets/distances and standards to meet. Basically, four 4" circles on the target, five shots each, at least four of the shots must be within each circle. Distances are 10, 15, and 20 feet, IIRC, must pass at least the 10 foot one, and when the instructor certifies to the NRA that you passed, he or she indicates the highest level of classification (if you pass the 20 foot, you can then take the instructor level, which is an 8" circle at 45 feet, 16 out of 20 shots must be in a 6" group. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:32:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhm... Miami? You trying to tell us a .22LR isn't a firearm? 'Cause I'm pretty sure I heard from some industry guys it's a firearm. Just sayin'. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:41:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spending a day at the range with a .22LR for a class introduction isn't making someone a "gun guy". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uhm... Miami? You trying to tell us a .22LR isn't a firearm? 'Cause I'm pretty sure I heard from some industry guys it's a firearm. Just sayin'. JROTC at least back in the day actually shot for qualification scores, so it wasn't just an "introduction". It was an annual part of our program. They got rid of .22's not long after I graduated after there was an intentional shooting by a cadet at a military school using a US Army issued .22 rifle and switched over completely to air rifles (we shot both on the rifle team, 90% of our matches were .22, other 10% were air rifle, one match one year at Bama we shot both). We also shot M16A2's and M60's at summer camp (cleaned the cosmoline off the A2's, Fort McClellan had just gotten them, then showed up to college ROTC where we were borrowing M16A1's either from MP's or drawing them from the pools at Fort Gordon or Benning if we went there for FTX's, if we went to Camp Merrill Ranger Training Camp, we used rifles from the MP's at Fort MacPherson, no idea what they do now now that there aren't MP's there). |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:41:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're wrong. Look at his stance. He may be holding it, but he ain't firing is. And shove your "conspiracy theory" up your ass. That phrase lives with "racist" now in the bin of meaningless counters.  That picture was posted directly on the white house website. But you’re certain it was faked by the CIA or NSA or something, because it’s CLEARLY physically impossible to shoot birdshot from that stance. Even after Miami_JBT showed us the trap range at Camp David. This place... |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:48:52 PM EDT
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To quote Hitlery, "at this point what difference does it make?"
He pandered to gun guys, much like many other politicians. I remember all the hope about nationwide concealed carry and the hearing protection act. He could have pressed that early on when the GOP had both houses. But that never happened. So, I am willing to bet he was never into shooting or even collecting guns. He may have owned a couple, but even my libtard friends have an old revolver collecting dust in a sock drawer. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 1:28:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spending a day at the range with a .22LR for a class introduction isn't making someone a "gun guy". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uhm... Miami? You trying to tell us a .22LR isn't a firearm? 'Cause I'm pretty sure I heard from some industry guys it's a firearm. Just sayin'. OP didn't ask us if we thought he was a gun guy. He asked if we thought Trump had ever fired a gun. Jeez, man, You read better than this. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 1:31:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That picture was posted directly on the white house website. But you're certain it was faked by the CIA or NSA or something, because it's CLEARLY physically impossible to shoot birdshot from that stance. Even after Miami_JBT showed us the trap range at Camp David. This place... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're wrong. Look at his stance. He may be holding it, but he ain't firing is. And shove your "conspiracy theory" up your ass. That phrase lives with "racist" now in the bin of meaningless counters. That picture was posted directly on the white house website. But you're certain it was faked by the CIA or NSA or something, because it's CLEARLY physically impossible to shoot birdshot from that stance. Even after Miami_JBT showed us the trap range at Camp David. This place... Keep playing your stupid games, Homer. I, OTOH, think it's hylarious that you apparently believe that the White House website posting the pic means it's legit. How old were you when your mom first started dropping you on your head? Man, they'll let anybody post here, won't they? |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:18:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep playing your stupid games, Homer. I, OTOH, think it's hylarious that you apparently believe that the White House website posting the pic means it's legit. How old were you when your mom first started dropping you on your head? Man, they'll let anybody post here, won't they? So was it the CIA or NSA? Circle the pixels that prove it was photoshopped...you sure do seem 100% certain don’t you? Or did “they” do too good a job so it’s indistinguishable? You said it was a “shitty photoshop”; should be easy to prove the world wrong. Were they faking them in the 60’s already? I mean look at how JFK is holding that shotgun....you can CLEARLY tell he’s not shooting it; the smoke is fake, right?  Attached FileI guess the really will “let anyone post here” 
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:31:24 AM EDT
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Two pages of purse-swinging and not a single real photo of Trump firing a weapon (or even posing with one).
That says a tremendous amount, even if many here don't want to listen. Anyone who's ever been to a domestic should know exactly what this sounds like, and how stupid the inevitable reconciliation always is. "But he loves me!" |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 2:48:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep playing your stupid games, Homer. I, OTOH, think it's hylarious that you apparently believe that the White House website posting the pic means it's legit. How old were you when your mom first started dropping you on your head? Man, they'll let anybody post here, won't they? What would even be the point of faking it? How hard is it to get the guy to hold a gun and pull the trigger while some dude takes a picture? This isn't faking the moon landing. Also, what does it matter? Nobody is seriously claiming Obama is more pro-gun than Trump because he fired an over-under once. Just that Trump isn't really a gun guy and cared about guns only to the extent that he had to to win our votes (which is still more than Obama or Biden did, mind you). See also, all the times he opened his mouth and said something dumb like the infamous "take the guns first" quote, then walked it back after meeting with the NRA who informed him just how fucked he would be if he betrayed half of the guns + abortion Republican voting foundation. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 3:18:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If that's directed at me there are more than a few people here who know what I do for a living and my personal circle and professional network... And when I say a few people, I'm referring to staff, mods and the people who are responsible for this site being here. |
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Posted: 1/22/2021 3:22:35 AM EDT
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I would assume there was some sort of marksmanship course in military acadamy in the 1960s when he attended.
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Posted: 1/22/2021 3:22:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNope, the 232. |
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