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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:29:55 AM EDT
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This is interesting tech for all rechargable devices.

Here is a little tinfoil for you pro EV tards.

The Globalists have made it very clear they do NOT want the serfs out and about.  They want to make travel as difficult as possible.

EVs are very helpful to that end.

Most people don't have 40 or 50 gallons of electricity stored in Jerry cans for emergencies.

Most people don't have a spare 50 amp generator for emergency top ups for the car.

Public free and public pay for charging stations don't have tanks of electricity in the ground to charge hundreds of vehicles at a time.

Houses are being forced to have "smart meters" put on them.



All of these factors give our new GLORIOUS LEADERS the ability to turn off the ability of citizens to travel, quite rapidly, if we are all driving EVs.

If the excuse is "climate emergency"

If the excuse is "pandemic emergency"

If the excuse is "domestic terrorism emergency" (really, what do you think they would have done for the inauguration, if all private vehicles were electric?)

Last year all this would have been crazy talk.

Not so much now.
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Don't forget - because of the shitty infrastructure people's home chargers will need to coordinate in order to stagger charging in your neighbourhood. Which will also control who is allowed to charge and when...
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:35:36 AM EDT
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EV technology and the infrastructure needed to support it to any usable extent will take many years and billions Trillions of dollars. That being said, what I object to is the subsidizing of this very expensive shit by the .gov when we are already $30T in debt.

When and if this shit actually happens only the extremely uber wealthy will be able to afford to have a car.  If you think you're just going to keep your old gas powered vehicle forget it - gasoline will be $50 a gallon.

People that get a woody talking about how cool electric cars are and how great life is going to be when this 'green new deal' shit gets rammed though are the same people who though obamacare was going to be free.  LOL
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Gas will be super cheap. They can't stop making gas while still making plastics and cosmetics and oil and grease and fuel for plane and ships.

They'll just regulate ownership of IC vehicles to make it increasingly onerous.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 9:44:47 AM EDT
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Gas will be super cheap. They can't stop making gas while still making plastics and cosmetics and oil and grease and fuel for plane and ships.

They'll just regulate ownership of IC vehicles to make it increasingly onerous.
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As long as we keep printing money the price of oil will rise because the price of a barrel is in dollars..  If the price doesn't rise high or fast enough they'll increase fuel taxes so it will.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:00:00 AM EDT
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In science, every theory is fact until proven otherwise.
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This statement staggers the imagination.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:00:14 AM EDT
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The amount of access Tesla has to "your" vehicle and the amount of information they collect from you is super fucked up.
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A 5 minute charge will change the game.

Now find me a new EV that isn't connected to the internet.
The amount of access Tesla has to "your" vehicle and the amount of information they collect from you is super fucked up.


Most new cars, for that matter

2008 master race
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:02:08 AM EDT
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I can't wait for our socialist overlords to ban the IC engine completely.  Then, we can buy food from china instead of having people in this nation raise crops.  It will be wonderful.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:02:27 AM EDT
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Something else to think about, a full court press on solar and wind is also going to cause an exponential increase in a need for viable energy storage, because solar and wind isnt 100% on demand without having a way to store excess. That may mean a shitload of demand for batteries and their components.
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Something else else, where are we going to get all those solar panels and wind turbines?  As in, where will they be manufactured?
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:04:49 AM EDT
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Free energy? Brilliant!
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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:17:33 AM EDT
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Tesla's been making 'viable' electric cars for the mass market for 9 years now.

You're letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, and assuming that the perfect has to get to perfection instantly. As magger says, even the things you want an EV to do are things ICE vehicles couldn't do for decades after their mass market adoption.

We on the right are pretty bad at this. We constantly let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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EVs are stupid.  

Let me know when I can tow 10k pounds 400mi, then 'fill up' on battery juice in 5 minutes on any street corner....rinse and repeat for 200k miles on original equipment.

In all fairness, it was several decades after the introduction of combustion engine personal vehicle before you could “tow 10k pounds 400mi, then 'fill up' in 5 minutes on any street corner”

It was almost a century before you could reliably do it in a regular commuter vehicle “for 200k miles on original equipment”.

Your expectations of emerging technology are unrealistic at this time.


But that's just it...why, in this day and age, should we take two steps back just for the sake of having something 'new'?   Let the manufacturers sort the shit out before bringing them to market, and having us pay the equivalent, or more than a superior product (internal combustion engines), just to be their guinea pigs.


Tesla's been making 'viable' electric cars for the mass market for 9 years now.

You're letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, and assuming that the perfect has to get to perfection instantly. As magger says, even the things you want an EV to do are things ICE vehicles couldn't do for decades after their mass market adoption.

We on the right are pretty bad at this. We constantly let the perfect be the enemy of the good.


9 years and Tesla still can't tow a 2,000lb trailer less than halfway across the country.  ICE cars were rushed to market at the turn of the century due to an actual demand from people traveling outside their cities, industry moving goods farther from the manufacturing plants, etc, etc, etc....farther than a horse could travel, and more stuff than a team and wagon could carry.  America was booming, subdivisions were being formed, cities were expanding...the bicycle and horse were not cutting it anymore.  

It doesn't have to be "perfect" like you claim, but there is nothing a EV does better than an ICE vehicle.  Demand for them is created solely by government regulations.  They are a 'solution' looking for a problem.



Teslas CAN'T Tow Across Country — Watch Us Try and FAIL! | Adventure X Ep.7
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 10:18:27 AM EDT
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I can make my own electricity a lot easier than I can make my own gasoline.
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Only because you bought a whole bunch of stuff to do it and already have that stuff.  You can make and store your own hydrocarbon fuel with some pretty low tech stuff.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 11:32:38 AM EDT
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Add a video of a hoverboard bursting into flames.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 11:35:55 AM EDT
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This along with new nuclear power plants and gas powered cars will be gone pretty soon.
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Smoking crack, dude.  We only ever dismantle nuclear plants now.  We don't build new ones.  Nevermind is the safest, most powerful, cleanest, and most reliable form of energy on the planet.  Nope, we like wind mills and solar panels, because nothing says, "I'm a cuckity cookoo for cocopops" like making your energy at the mercy of the almighty.  And they say liberals don't like God.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 12:59:51 PM EDT
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Only because you bought a whole bunch of stuff to do it and already have that stuff.  You can make and store your own hydrocarbon fuel with some pretty low tech stuff.
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Link Posted: 1/21/2021 1:06:25 PM EDT
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Lithium?  Isn't mining that doing huge environmental damages?
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Mining and production of lithium and all kinds of rare earth metals to support "green" technology is causing huge environmental damage.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 1:14:26 PM EDT
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I had to make sure these were released to the public. Saw a guy working on a home made version. both of these stories are old, but show the doe working on a few projects. The fuel cell dude says Honda is top of the game. bio fuel is a way off from what I saw, but I don't work in those fields.
https://www.lanl.gov/science-innovation/science-programs/applied-energy-programs/fuel-cell/index.php
https://www.lanl.gov/news-archive/news-releases/2010/January/01.14-biofuel-development.php
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 1:18:11 PM EDT
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Mining and production of lithium and all kinds of rare earth metals to support "green" technology is causing huge environmental damage.
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Especially when China does it.  Lithium and cobalt are also mined in conflict zones by literal slave labor.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 1:19:46 PM EDT
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Fast charging batteries is an improvement.  But the second issue is power.  Most homes have a 150 amp service.  Charging a 100kw battery with 100w still would take 1hr.  The easy fix is to have a battery bank do the charging, and recharge it as power is available - but that works for a single car.  Even a small gas station tends to have 4 pumps and can fill 40-50 cars an hour.  That much power is more than 1/2 the electricity my town currently uses - I can not really imagine needing a completely new set of transmission lines to each small gas station - each gas station would all but need their one substation.  Buckees would need a power plant next door.

We would need to completely rethink our current grid.  Honestly unless we start putting mini reactors under the station - I hardly see this happening anytime soon.  Have not heard much about container sized nuclear power plants for a while - and OMG the dems would never allow that.  A half dozen years ago or so did read about 1mw modular plants - but crickets since then.  But honestly, my home town probably has over 100 houses with 100amp services.  1,000,000 watts - That is what a new electrical "gas" station would almost need (or several stations, if they could average load over 24hrs).  Buckees would need a few...

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Wonder - does commercial transportation use more gas now than private vehicles?  Imagine needing to fast charge all the tractor trailers and trains...
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 1:26:08 PM EDT
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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/storedot-one-step-closer-to-eliminating-ev-charging--range-anxiety-with-launch-of-first-ever-5-minute-charge-li-ion-battery-samples-301210213.html?source=content_type%3Areact%7Cfirst_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link

- Milestone announcement proves the commercial viability of StoreDot's extreme fast charging battery technology utilizing nano-scale metalloids and proprietary compounds

- Sample availability provides major proof point of StoreDot's ability to scale its technology within existing lithium-ion (Li-ion) battery manufacturing lines for mass production

- Launch paves the way for the introduction of StoreDot's second-generation, silicon-dominant prototype battery for electric vehicles later this year
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5 minute EV charging

Well here you go anti EV tards
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Get back to me when they are actually in large scale service, tard.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 2:13:20 PM EDT
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Fast charging batteries is an improvement.  But the second issue is power.  Most homes have a 150 amp service.  Charging a 100kw battery with 100w still would take 1hr.  The easy fix is to have a battery bank do the charging, and recharge it as power is available - but that works for a single car.  Even a small gas station tends to have 4 pumps and can fill 40-50 cars an hour.  That much power is more than 1/2 the electricity my town currently uses - I can not really imagine needing a completely new set of transmission lines to each small gas station - each gas station would all but need their one substation.  Buckees would need a power plant next door.

We would need to completely rethink our current grid.  Honestly unless we start putting mini reactors under the station - I hardly see this happening anytime soon.  Have not heard much about container sized nuclear power plants for a while - and OMG the dems would never allow that.  A half dozen years ago or so did read about 1mw modular plants - but crickets since then.  But honestly, my home town probably has over 100 houses with 100amp services.  1,000,000 watts - That is what a new electrical "gas" station would almost need (or several stations, if they could average load over 24hrs).  Buckees would need a few...

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Buckees are not everywhere.  I have never seen one but need to research it for future travels.

"Buc-ee's is a chain of convenience stores and gas stations with 39 locations in Texas, Alabama, and Georgia."  

I may never see one.
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 2:44:59 PM EDT
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This along with new nuclear power plants and gas powered cars will be gone pretty soon.
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Doubt it.  What's it take to charge in 5 minutes?  240v @ 400 amps?
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 2:46:49 PM EDT
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LoL are you serious

A Tesla supercharger can charge two Tesla’s to 50% in  20mins

Think about that for a second
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What's that cost to put one at home?  And Can I get a roadie so I can take it to the wilderness?
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 2:58:13 PM EDT
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Doubt it.  What's it take to charge in 5 minutes?  240v @ 400 amps?
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Enough to run a subway car?
Link Posted: 1/21/2021 3:01:07 PM EDT
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I don't mind the idea of electric cars.

what bothers me is the connectivity-based technology that is going to allow manufacturers (and therefore government) to control electric cars remotely via pushed software updates.

no one is going to build an EV that isn't connected.  therefore you won't really own it.
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