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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:37:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It runs much deeper than your over simplified insult. The people living there often have roots that go back centuries. Their ancestors pushed the Indians off and settled the land. The families intermarried and built communities. In many cases the land stayed in the same clan for generations until economics forced them off. Then an outsider with the means to buy their land comes in and posts it up as if there is some way he can enforce his will on the ground that generations lived and died on. So they got forced out just like their ancestors did to others. I'll have a Coke. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:39:40 PM EDT
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Well... If he's going to walk way (and he should at this point) he should get massive payback. I'm talking scorched Earth, motherfucker.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:39:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, we see who loves property rights and those who understand that laws aren't always as clear cut when the locals begin to ignore them because it's just how things are done in their communities. And we see those who think they have the right to move into an area to build their dream getaway and tell the locals how to do things and then are shocked, shocked when the locals tell them to fuck right off in the form of a burned playground retreat. I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying it isn't as cut and dry out in the sticks as suburbanites would like it to be and if they can't understand that they might want to reconsider their plans. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this thread, we see who actually values private property rights, and who loves communism wrapped in the labels of tradition and small-town charm. No, we see who loves property rights and those who understand that laws aren't always as clear cut when the locals begin to ignore them because it's just how things are done in their communities. And we see those who think they have the right to move into an area to build their dream getaway and tell the locals how to do things and then are shocked, shocked when the locals tell them to fuck right off in the form of a burned playground retreat. I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying it isn't as cut and dry out in the sticks as suburbanites would like it to be and if they can't understand that they might want to reconsider their plans. No, the laws are pretty clear cut. Trash just have comprehension issues. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:41:26 PM EDT
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Damn.
 Fuck those people.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:42:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you see them coming down your driveway to pick you up?  Negative. I live in a river bottom and can see a long way. My main concern is retards shooting in the dark without knowing where things are that shouldn't be shot. The one that came up my drive spotlighted a mostly naked angry fat man. I doubt they've been back. 
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:43:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread, we see who actually values private property rights, and who loves communism wrapped in the labels of tradition and small-town charm. Yep. There is a good dose of smooth brain mentality and thought process in this thread. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:44:58 PM EDT
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I know of a somewhat similar story that happened near LaCygne, KS about 12 years ago.
A fellow from Kansas City bought some land outside of LaCygne so that he could have his own place to hunt. The local poachers had been hunting that land without permission for years, unbeknownst to the new owner. Kansas City and it's suburbs are not held in much regard in the rural areas around there, so the new owner was viewed with the usual contempt. He set up some game cameras to get to know game movement, and caught 2 guys on video. Both were wearing camo and carrying rifles. The landowner contacted the local sheriff and also a KS Conservation Officer (aka game warden). Neither one was particularly interested. The landowner painted every fence post and several trees around the perimeter of the property with purple paint, and added multiple No Trespassing signs. Some weeks later, the landowner was hunting from a tree stand and saw the same 2 guys on his property. He confronted them, and they threatened him (both were armed). The landowner stupidly fired his gun into the air while yelling at the trespassers. The trespassers called the sheriff, who arrested the landowner. It turns out that one of the trespassers was a deputy sheriff. Landowner plead out, paid a hefty fine, and ultimately sold the property for substantially less than what he paid. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:45:59 PM EDT
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We have had a small cabin on 115 acres we don't live on for 30 years. Every time we open the gate, we half heartedly joke about whether it has been burned down yet or not.
Really it is pitiful. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:46:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It runs much deeper than your over simplified insult. The people living there often have roots that go back centuries. Their ancestors pushed the Indians off and settled the land. The families intermarried and built communities. In many cases the land stayed in the same clan for generations until economics forced them off. Then an outsider with the means to buy their land comes in and posts it up as if there is some way he can enforce his will on the ground that generations lived and died on. They have a way of life that your no trespassing sign isn't ever going to change. It has nothing to do with entitlement. I'm not saying that it's right, but I understand it because my relatives still live that way back in W. Va. A man might be better off trying to build relationships rather than trying to tell people to stay away. Even then, the reality is that I could probably buy some land where my people are and still not be safe based solely on the family name. Especially if I put up signs telling people that they can't ever again ride the back trails connecting their homes, or hunt for morels, or ramps, or ginseng, or just take a walk in the woods with their kids or dogs. If you go in to a tight, isolated community and try to push them around, they will push back. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Give the locals a fair shake and they'll reciprocate. Act like a dick and don't be surprised when your cabin burns down when you're back home. But people also need to understand that local tradition might trump property lines and laws. People that have been hunting the same patch of 250 acres their whole lives might simply ignore the "No Hunting" signs some new absentee landowner puts up. It's just the way it goes in rural areas and urbanites who buy a wilderness playground need to understand that. No, they don't. Socialist FSA fucks who think they are entitled to what is not theirs are the absolute lowest dregs of society. Fuck every one of them. It runs much deeper than your over simplified insult. The people living there often have roots that go back centuries. Their ancestors pushed the Indians off and settled the land. The families intermarried and built communities. In many cases the land stayed in the same clan for generations until economics forced them off. Then an outsider with the means to buy their land comes in and posts it up as if there is some way he can enforce his will on the ground that generations lived and died on. They have a way of life that your no trespassing sign isn't ever going to change. It has nothing to do with entitlement. I'm not saying that it's right, but I understand it because my relatives still live that way back in W. Va. A man might be better off trying to build relationships rather than trying to tell people to stay away. Even then, the reality is that I could probably buy some land where my people are and still not be safe based solely on the family name. Especially if I put up signs telling people that they can't ever again ride the back trails connecting their homes, or hunt for morels, or ramps, or ginseng, or just take a walk in the woods with their kids or dogs. If you go in to a tight, isolated community and try to push them around, they will push back. I suspect between city folks moving out to escape China virus and suburban folks moving out to the sticks and to different states, this is going to become a lot more common. Even moreso once Xiden and company finish off the economies of a lot of those small towns (mining, agriculture, manufacturing), continue to pass laws restricting freedoms (gun control, car stuff, land use). Outsiders are going to become even less welcome and viewed as even more of an enemy. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:47:36 PM EDT
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This story was just told by the victim on the Meateater podcast. It’s unreal.
Maybe I can buy the land for pennies on the dollar and clean out the riff raff. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:50:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neanderthals. People can't evolve or adapt to changing in their circumstances. Thankfully, also the first ones to die when shit hits the fan. "I'm gonna keep hunting here 'cause that's where my daddy used to hunt in 1964!" Well it ain't 1964 and you ain't your daddy. I hope law enforcement nails your ass to the wall. you may not understand just how far away law enforcement is in some areas. It is a whole lot easier to be neighborly, and mind your own business in rural areas where you do not live. While this man had the right to both be upset about the poaching and informing law enforcement about the other persons actions, He chose this action considering only how he would react to this, and without considering how others may react. That was foolish of him, and his error has cost him deeply. I own 150 acres that I do not live on. It is not posted. There is a reason for that, namely, the signs would be ignored, the neighbors would be upset, and I would probably be broken in to and robbed. I do not lock the doors as they would be broken if some one wanted in. That being said, I have not been robbed, I have not been broken in to, and the doors are unlocked right now. I also mind my own business, and go out of my way to be neighborly when I am in the area. We do hunt this property. If we are in a stand and a neighbor out hunting walks within sight, they leave when they see the orange in the stand. Realistically, this is the best I can hope for, and I purchased this property knowing this would be the case for a generation or two. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:50:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 'Missouri Poacher sill missing should be the headlines in a month or so. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:50:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every thread about someone moving to another state has people talk about how they are full and they don't need your big city ideas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sucks about his property, and fuck poachers, but at the same time I can see where the locals wouldn't give a shit. He was an outsider, he just showed up where they lived just to have fun in his cabin, and didn't live there and get to know the locals. The backwoods isn't a city where people come and go on a regular basis. You have to establish yourself to the locals and showing up two weeks a year isn't the way to do it. But yeah, fuck poachers. That's backwards and fucking retarded, but hey, West Virginia checking in I guess  Every thread about someone moving to another state has people talk about how they are full and they don't need your big city ideas. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:51:09 PM EDT
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I know an old Marine. He served three combat tours in VN. He had a lease in ETX that belonged to a close mil buddy.
Had a bunch of poachers set up camp in that land next to the river. They used a bass boat to come and go. They asked the poachers to leave and not come back. They refused using vulgar language and some overhead shots. He went back that night with his legal M2 carbine and riddled their boat. In the morn, the camp was abandoned with much equipment left behind. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:52:17 PM EDT
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No way in hell I'd put up a structure on land I'm not full-timing on.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:53:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, we see who loves property rights and those who understand that laws aren't always as clear cut when the locals begin to ignore them because it's just how things are done in their communities. And we see those who think they have the right to move into an area to build their dream getaway and tell the locals how to do things and then are shocked, shocked when the locals tell them to fuck right off in the form of a burned playground retreat. I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying it isn't as cut and dry out in the sticks as suburbanites would like it to be and if they can't understand that they might want to reconsider their plans. Onslow, you're drunk. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:56:23 PM EDT
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This sort of shit is my constant fear for our camp house. I did take the time to meet the neighbor and have a good rapport with him so if it burned down I would at least get a phone call.
I also try to keep a pretty low profile. No fancy new gate, no new no trespassing signs, minimum mowing and road improvements from the entrance from the main road, etc. There are also a shit ton of hidden game cams in place so I would find out who torched my house and well CoC and all.... |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:57:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, we see who loves property rights and those who understand that laws aren't always as clear cut when the locals begin to ignore them because it's just how things are done in their communities. And we see those who think they have the right to move into an area to build their dream getaway and tell the locals how to do things and then are shocked, shocked when the locals tell them to fuck right off in the form of a burned playground retreat. I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying it isn't as cut and dry out in the sticks as suburbanites would like it to be and if they can't understand that they might want to reconsider their plans. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this thread, we see who actually values private property rights, and who loves communism wrapped in the labels of tradition and small-town charm. No, we see who loves property rights and those who understand that laws aren't always as clear cut when the locals begin to ignore them because it's just how things are done in their communities. And we see those who think they have the right to move into an area to build their dream getaway and tell the locals how to do things and then are shocked, shocked when the locals tell them to fuck right off in the form of a burned playground retreat. I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying it isn't as cut and dry out in the sticks as suburbanites would like it to be and if they can't understand that they might want to reconsider their plans. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:58:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The “locals” are not owed jack shit of anything not on their property, to include a “fair shake”. Respect the law or expect a trespassers welcome. You are absolutely legally correct. However your attitude may evoke the same reaction of the neighbors that this mans did. Right or not, he did not live there, and was therefor unable to defend what he did not possess at that instant in time. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:59:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That sucks, but I also complain about leftist moving into red areas fucking it up. If you buy up property you need to become established with locals. Why do they need to be established with the locals if they are minding their own business? What is the reason behind the entitlement mentality of the locals who believe they should be able to use other people's land? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:59:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Im sure the OWNER of the land might care what happens on THEIR land. You cannot be this fucking obtuse. The Owner of the land was not the person who called in the poaching. The Neighbor called in the Poaching, and had his cabin burnt. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:00:11 PM EDT
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Fuck:
Poachers Thieves Trespassers Arsonists and backwoods yokels who think they can commit crimes to keep outsiders out. Don’t want outsiders? Then buy up the land so you own and control it. It’s the USA, not some third world shit hole. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:02:05 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck: Poachers Thieves Trespassers Arsonists and backwoods yokels who think they can commit crimes to keep outsiders out. Don’t want outsiders? Then buy up the land so you own and control it. It’s the USA, not some third world shit hole. Even worse when it’s your family destroying property and/or stealing. I have a friend that had issues with his own family in TN. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:02:24 PM EDT
[#24]
By not rebuilding he is allowing the locals to win. This will only make it worse for the net landowner.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:03:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: tresspassing laws should be 100x more severe IMHO, ESPECIALLY for repeat offenders. its a travesty how weak tresspassing laws and punishment are in almost every state. at least in florida its a felony to tresspass with a firearm, and shooting onto someone elses land is a felony as well... which is a good start. the home and a persons property is the core of their life and world and it should be protected as such. imho.. tresspassing and burglary laws should be so seviere, and the penalties so seviere people are scared as shit / terrified to tresspass / break into another persons home, so scared / terrified of the consequences it should be a extremely rare occurrence. completely agree. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:04:26 PM EDT
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Poor uneducated people tend to be more likely to violate the law and rationalize their illegal behavior, or just not give a shit and do what they want, legal or not. Having lived rurally a lot of my life in an area where there are plenty of people like that I know the mentality. I've also met some good people that are poor and uneducated too.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:05:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:07:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Something like this might be better. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240/21D102EC-B545-4B1D-B0F0-EF0EFD15A1E5_jpe-1788333.JPG Cleetus can melt steel beams. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:10:39 PM EDT
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Totally predictable. Build something nice out in the boondocks with no neighbors, stay in it a few weeks a year and somehow you don't expect it to be robbed or destroyed. If you are going to build something like that and fill it with items that means something to you...live in it.
But don't expect that no one will touch it knowing human nature. Sucks but lets not be naive about the realities of life. Its like leaving the keys in a nice car unlocked in the hood then acting astonished that it was stolen. Guys I know with hunting cabins (shacks) do not leave anything of value in them because they know it will get broken into at some point during the 51 weeks of the year they are not there. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:11:20 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But too many absentee landowners think of it as buying in suburbia. If there's a problem, I'll just call 911 and the cops will show up. Well, no the won't when there are two deputies for a county that is the size of Rhode Island when it's hammered flat and they have traffic accidents, meth, domestic calls, and the like to serve. Poachers aren't a priority for them or the locals unless the poachers are spotlighting or something. No one is going to care if Bubba is taking a deer or two a year to feed his family, especially when he's been hunting that same spot his whole life because it was some mine or forestry company's land before you bought it for your private playground. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:12:24 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Something like this might be better. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240/21D102EC-B545-4B1D-B0F0-EF0EFD15A1E5_jpe-1788333.JPG Good idea. Do you know how much meth you can cook in there? You don't even have to wear a tin foil hat. It's fucking metal. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:12:46 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: By not rebuilding he is allowing the locals to win. This will only make it worse for the net landowner. He should make every effort possible to drive as much city traffic as he can to the area. Like opening up the whole property to concerts, building cabin rentals, offering nature programs to at risk youth etc. and let everyone in the area get diversified. Just to piss the inbred “its just our local culture and how we do things” mother effers off. Eta: F trespassing |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:14:12 PM EDT
[#33]
Threads like this sure show the shit heels.
Booby traps should be legal. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:14:48 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Having grown up near that area, I have this to say: 1. There's more to this story. The people in this area are VERY MUCH MYOB types. 2. I don't condone arson, for any reason. 3. The contempt this guy shows for the locals provides a clue toward number 1. 4. I suspect there might have been some subsistence poaching going on and this guy was making an issue of it. People there eat Raccoon on the regular. The occasional deer shot out of season to feed your family for the rest of the winter isn't exactly condoned, but the local sheriff isn't exactly going to to go out of the way to throw the book at someone for it either. 5. He might as well sell his land at this point because after indicting the whole populace of the area he won't just get to re-build and go on as if nothing happened. They'll do it again. I live just a few hours away and have hunted that area some. Id say there is a lot more to the story than what's posted, BUT nowhere did I see where the impression that he came into the area imposing his will on others, was a shitty neighbor or was telling the locals how to live life. Maybe his land was a target for poachers, was trespassed on often and he was tired of it and tried to do something about it. Not all poachers are after food for sustenance, I found more deer shot and heads removed than I have taken for food. Personally I always get to know the conservation agent in the area and it seems to help immensely should an issue arise. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:15:02 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Totally predictable. Build something nice out in the boondocks with no neighbors, stay in it a few weeks a year and somehow you don't expect it to be robbed or destroyed. If you are going to build something like that and fill it with items that means something to you...live in it. But don't expect that no one will touch it knowing human nature. Sucks but lets no be naive about the realities of life. Its like leaving the keys in a nice car unlocked in the hood than acting astonished that it was stolen. Guys I know with hunting cabins do not leave anything of value in them because they know it will get broken into at some point during the 51 weeks of the year they are not there. Neighbors, like retired locals, are great. Frequent gifts and invites to your place help. Heck I might even pay them. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:15:41 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good idea. Do you know how much meth you can cook in there? You don't even have to wear a tin foil hat. It's fucking metal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Something like this might be better. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240/21D102EC-B545-4B1D-B0F0-EF0EFD15A1E5_jpe-1788333.JPG Good idea. Do you know how much meth you can cook in there? You don't even have to wear a tin foil hat. It's fucking metal. Science! |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:16:54 PM EDT
[#37]
Hang him.
Slowly. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:19:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Too many of the wrong people surviving and breeding. We don't show this much blind-deaf-dumb compassion for wild or domesticated animals when hey misbehave so much....why do we have to tolerate so much misbehavior from people who aren't that much smarter or act any better than uncivilized animals? Now your thinking like Biden! I nominate you as president of the eugenics commission! Who’s Grandma are we going to murder first, mine or yours? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:19:32 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ‘Missouri Poacher Found Eaten By Ants, Coyotes & Vultures’ should be the headlines in a month or so. Thankfully, no people were harmed. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:19:37 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We have had a small cabin on 115 acres we don't live on for 30 years. Every time we open the gate, we half heartedly joke about whether it has been burned down yet or not. Really it is pitiful. And to all those in this thread saying “locals do what locals do, you gotta go with it“, how long do you have to own the land/cabin before you’re no longer an “outsider”, and nobody fucks with it? 30 years? 60 years? Pathetic. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:20:32 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Give the locals a fair shake and they'll reciprocate. Act like a dick and don't be surprised when your cabin burns down when you're back home. But people also need to understand that local tradition might trump property lines and laws. People that have been hunting the same patch of 250 acres their whole lives might simply ignore the "No Hunting" signs some new absentee landowner puts up. It's just the way it goes in rural areas and urbanites who buy a wilderness playground need to understand that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sucks about his property, and fuck poachers, but at the same time I can see where the locals wouldn't give a shit. He was an outsider, he just showed up where they lived just to have fun in his cabin, and didn't live there and get to know the locals. The backwoods isn't a city where people come and go on a regular basis. You have to establish yourself to the locals and showing up two weeks a year isn't the way to do it. But yeah, fuck poachers. Hopefully our surrounding neighbors at our cabin don't feel that way about me. We're the only ones that don't live in the area, and only come up once a month or so. We have the nicest riverfront property in the area too. When a 30" Oak fell last year, I was the only younger guy with a 24" Husky bucking it up. They seemed to appreciate the help. Hopefully they don't burn our place down.  Give the locals a fair shake and they'll reciprocate. Act like a dick and don't be surprised when your cabin burns down when you're back home. But people also need to understand that local tradition might trump property lines and laws. People that have been hunting the same patch of 250 acres their whole lives might simply ignore the "No Hunting" signs some new absentee landowner puts up. It's just the way it goes in rural areas and urbanites who buy a wilderness playground need to understand that. What the fuck? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:21:24 PM EDT
[#42]
We don’t need no stinkin property lines in west virginny.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:21:54 PM EDT
[#43]
The low lifes will burn a cabin just for drill, retaliation is not a requirement.
The smart ones steal everything not tied down so the owner will bring more stuff to steal. Butler sounds like he's got a little prick in him. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:22:08 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you should only be allowed to own property if you can guard it 24/7 otherwise the neighbors should be able to claim it as their own Of course not. Simply put the reality and the ideal are not the same. The ideal is everyone would respect others property. The reality is not every one does. That does not make it right. That makes it life. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:24:16 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But too many absentee landowners think of it as buying in suburbia. If there's a problem, I'll just call 911 and the cops will show up. Well, no the won't when there are two deputies for a county that is the size of Rhode Island when it's hammered flat and they have traffic accidents, meth, domestic calls, and the like to serve. Poachers aren't a priority for them or the locals unless the poachers are spotlighting or something. No one is going to care if Bubba is taking a deer or two a year to feed his family, especially when he's been hunting that same spot his whole life because it was some mine or forestry company's land before you bought it for your private playground. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Eh. Maybe. But predictable. If you own rural land but are an absentee landlord, other people will make use of it. I used to own 465 acres in Arkansas that was 5 hours away from me. Was told by the realtor that if we posted no trespassing signs that all it would accomplish is people cutting the fences. Guy said our ponds would be fished out in 4 weeks or less. Legal title to the rural land doesn’t mean squat if you aren’t there continually to enforce your property rights. Always good to find a local caretaker to look after your stuff and pay him to do so... But too many absentee landowners think of it as buying in suburbia. If there's a problem, I'll just call 911 and the cops will show up. Well, no the won't when there are two deputies for a county that is the size of Rhode Island when it's hammered flat and they have traffic accidents, meth, domestic calls, and the like to serve. Poachers aren't a priority for them or the locals unless the poachers are spotlighting or something. No one is going to care if Bubba is taking a deer or two a year to feed his family, especially when he's been hunting that same spot his whole life because it was some mine or forestry company's land before you bought it for your private playground. Nobody is poaching to feed his family in America. FFS. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:24:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I live just a few hours away and have hunted that area some. Id say there is a lot more to the story than what's posted, BUT nowhere did I see where the impression that he came into the area imposing his will on others, was a shitty neighbor or was telling the locals how to live life. Maybe his land was a target for poachers, was trespassed on often and he was tired of it and tried to do something about it. Not all poachers are after food for sustenance, I found more deer shot and heads removed than I have taken for food. Personally I always get to know the conservation agent in the area and it seems to help immensely should an issue arise. You're very correct. And again, I don't agree with what happened to the guy. I'd just like to hear the rest of it. I grew up in Newton County (my people were in McDonald Co in 1840) and spent a lot of time camping in Douglas, Taney and Ozark counties. I can totally see where a guy that didn't know the area could waltz in and piss people off quick. It doesn't justify arson or trespass, but what happened is 100% predictable to me. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:25:01 PM EDT
[#47]
Time to go Deliverance on them, Burt Reynolds style.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:27:51 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Threads like this sure show the shit heels. Booby traps should be legal. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:28:52 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody is poaching to feed his family in America. FFS. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Eh. Maybe. But predictable. If you own rural land but are an absentee landlord, other people will make use of it. I used to own 465 acres in Arkansas that was 5 hours away from me. Was told by the realtor that if we posted no trespassing signs that all it would accomplish is people cutting the fences. Guy said our ponds would be fished out in 4 weeks or less. Legal title to the rural land doesn't mean squat if you aren't there continually to enforce your property rights. Always good to find a local caretaker to look after your stuff and pay him to do so... But too many absentee landowners think of it as buying in suburbia. If there's a problem, I'll just call 911 and the cops will show up. Well, no the won't when there are two deputies for a county that is the size of Rhode Island when it's hammered flat and they have traffic accidents, meth, domestic calls, and the like to serve. Poachers aren't a priority for them or the locals unless the poachers are spotlighting or something. No one is going to care if Bubba is taking a deer or two a year to feed his family, especially when he's been hunting that same spot his whole life because it was some mine or forestry company's land before you bought it for your private playground. Nobody is poaching to feed his family in America. FFS. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:30:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: no I'm not, but I understand the mentality of areas where property lines exist only on some plat map in the county assessor's office and outsiders need to understand that is the world they are entering. Found the poacher |
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