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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:24:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Meh, I change my oil when my son doesn’t have anything going on that weekend. Otherwise I’m paying someone else to do it every time.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:29:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've done probably thousands of oil changes on several different OEMs, I have never once got a torque wrench out to go after a drain plug. Nor have I have heard of one failing because it wasn't torqued  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Worked for years in a shop where nobody torqued a single drain plug. I never saw any come loose or have catastrophic failures like everyone seems to think. Will I argue against using a properly calibrated torque wrench for a drain plug? Hell no. I've done probably thousands of oil changes on several different OEMs, I have never once got a torque wrench out to go after a drain plug. Nor have I have heard of one failing because it wasn't torqued |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:31:37 PM EDT
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Changing my own oil and mowing my own lawn are things that I used to pay someone else to do. Then I realized: I really don't mind doing either of those, it's kind of meditative, irrespective of costs involved. I am back to doing both myself.
If someone finds it onerous and would rather pay someone else, great. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:33:49 PM EDT
[#4]
Nice! I usually pay even more to avoid having $10/hr techs from touching the car.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:35:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Thats not bad. My cummins w both fuel filters is around $300 at dealer. Ive had them do it since it was new.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:38:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much is your time worth? I pay roughly 75 bucks including 25 bucks for insurance for a rental for an oil change in my 4runner. Show up, get a rental, go to work, leave work pick up 4runner and done for another 3-4 months. Worth it to me. Both of our newer cars - oil change until 60k miles. One one of those two, it's oil changes for life, and lifetime power train warranty. I show up, 1hr and two donuts + coffee (free) later I am headed back home. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:39:43 PM EDT
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Changing oil at home seems like it USED to be a good deal.
Nowadays it's very close in price. Benefits of doing it at home: YOU have complete control over oil and oil filter brand/type/grade, etc., and have complete control over the workmanship. If you trust the local garages, and if you are only price driven and value your time, and believe "oil is oil and filter is filter", then it makes sense to not DIY. Also, it can be a PITA if you live in an apt with street parking, for example. Sometimes auto parts stores have deals like "buy 5 quarts of oil get a free filter" but it's there choice on what brand. And then, if you need that extra quart, it drives the price up. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:39:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Last time I took my personal 6.7 to the dealer at 30k miles it was $500 for the oil change and fuel filters.
I was like what the fork?! I then paid, left, and forgot about that Until now Thanks Obama |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:40:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People that take their vehicles to get oil changed make me LOL! Unless you're driving something like a Maybach. You definitely think you're more important than you really are in life!! |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:41:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Not a bad price.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:43:17 PM EDT
[#11]
Just be glad you don't own a Lexus . You'll pay slightly more .
But at the dealership the wife uses they at least have a restaurant . The breakfast sandwich is outstanding . gd |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:44:10 PM EDT
[#12]
Same truck. Dealer charges 80ish
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:44:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For real. I've done my own and my mom's since I was a kid + a few for different gfs over the years- all different types of American and Japanese (and one BMW). I've never used a torque wrench on a drain plug, and I've never had a problem. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Worked for years in a shop where nobody torqued a single drain plug. I never saw any come loose or have catastrophic failures like everyone seems to think. Will I argue against using a properly calibrated torque wrench for a drain plug? Hell no. I've done probably thousands of oil changes on several different OEMs, I have never once got a torque wrench out to go after a drain plug. Nor have I have heard of one failing because it wasn't torqued I've seen shitty places hide that fact various ways too. My Chevelle has one of those self tapping repair plugs in it, that I know who installed back when my grandmother had it serviced. It just showed up like that at some point. A friend got a car back with the plug RTV'd on. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:44:57 PM EDT
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2016 Silverado 5.3. I had the dealer do a change since it was still under warranty. 10 bucks more expensive than doing it myself.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:44:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Worked for years in a shop where nobody torqued a single drain plug. I never saw any come loose or have catastrophic failures like everyone seems to think. Will I argue against using a properly calibrated torque wrench for a drain plug? Hell no. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's your funeral, pal. How do you know the low-paid wrench monkey properly torqued your drain plug with a torque wrench that was calibrated within the last 87 days? Worked for years in a shop where nobody torqued a single drain plug. I never saw any come loose or have catastrophic failures like everyone seems to think. Will I argue against using a properly calibrated torque wrench for a drain plug? Hell no. I prefer the Kentucky windage version of torqueing a drain plug. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:45:16 PM EDT
[#16]
I, too, would rather pay someone else to change my oil.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:45:33 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats not bad. My cummins w both fuel filters is around $300 at dealer. Ive had them do it since it was new. It’s about $175 and an hour to do it yourself, oil/fuel |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:46:01 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's like going to a restaurant and them adding a fee for napkins, salt, pepper, silverware, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gloves, rags, etc. They do, it's just not itemized. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:46:12 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People that take their vehicles to get oil changed make me LOL! Unless you’re driving something like a Maybach. You definitely think you’re more important than you really are in life!!  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:47:12 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats not bad. My cummins w both fuel filters is around $300 at dealer. Ive had them do it since it was new. About the same for the Powerstroke oil change plus fuel filters. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:51:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Changing oil at home seems like it USED to be a good deal. Nowadays it's very close in price. Benefits of doing it at home: YOU have complete control over oil and oil filter brand/type/grade, etc., and have complete control over the workmanship. If you trust the local garages, and if you are only price driven and value your time, and believe "oil is oil and filter is filter", then it makes sense to not DIY. Also, it can be a PITA if you live in an apt with street parking, for example. Sometimes auto parts stores have deals like "buy 5 quarts of oil get a free filter" but it's there choice on what brand. And then, if you need that extra quart, it drives the price up. Now something like the brakes on the other hand I can get the parts from the company that actually supplies Toyota and install them myself for like 1/4 the price (not autozone crap). That's a no brainer. I actually got my oil changed last week and sitting there I like to listen to what people pay. The counter lady went over to one woman "you need new indicator lights $15/each" You can buy a 2 pack for $5One older woman I did feel kinda bad for "you need new rear brakes, $500". The look on her face was rough. I'm thinking I can do that with the same stuff they use for maybe just over $100. Dealerships only screw you if you let them. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:51:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Do it yourself...
My first dealer Powerstroke oil change forced me to start changing it by myself. I buy Delvac Full Synthetic at the Farm and Fleet when it's on sale, and oil filters from the Dealer. Ask your dealer for a diesel owner discount. I get 10% on parts and 15% on filters and Cetane Boost. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:53:38 PM EDT
[#23]
I get mine serviced. The shop owners vote conservative
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:53:50 PM EDT
[#24]
The good thing about dealer oil changes is they have a record of it being done.
If anything ever goes sideways, they can’t argue it’s because the oil wasn’t changed. There was a thread on here by someone with a new small model Ford (?) Anyway, something happened to the engine. He did his own oil changes but couldn’t prove it. They claimed the problem was oil related. I don’t remember how it all turned out. But it was a shitshow. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:54:32 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: 2017 F350, 6.7 Powerstroke. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/IMG_20210119_155001_jpg-1786969.JPG The same oil and filter from Amazon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/Screenshot_20210119-160151_png-1786970.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/Screenshot_20210119-160226_png-1786974.JPG DIY? $105.44 with a couple of excess quarts to use on the next change or toss in the toolbox. Or I can show up with no appointment, wait 1h19m and let some dude use his tools and get dirty and burn his hand. $128.13 I surfed ARFCOM and looked in disgust at the Bronco Sport in the showroom. Plus I'll get some coupons via e-mail. Shop told me $120 full synthetic I bought my own oil for $37 and filter $16 Did it myself under $60 This is why gthis generation is poor. Always having other people do it for lots of money and can't do anything for themselves |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:56:42 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The good thing about dealer oil changes is they have a record of it being done. If anything ever goes sideways, they can’t argue it’s because the oil wasn’t changed. There was a thread on here by someone with a new small model Ford (?) Anyway, something happened to the engine. He did his own oil changes but couldn’t prove it. They claimed the problem was oil related. I don’t remember how it all turned out. But it was a shitshow. 
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Posted: 1/19/2021 7:57:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen idiots with either air tools or a big enough yank a wrench strip threads. I've seen shitty places hide that fact various ways too. My Chevelle has one of those self tapping repair plugs in it, that I know who installed back when my grandmother had it serviced. It just showed up like that at some point. A friend got a car back with the plug RTV'd on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Worked for years in a shop where nobody torqued a single drain plug. I never saw any come loose or have catastrophic failures like everyone seems to think. Will I argue against using a properly calibrated torque wrench for a drain plug? Hell no. I've done probably thousands of oil changes on several different OEMs, I have never once got a torque wrench out to go after a drain plug. Nor have I have heard of one failing because it wasn't torqued I've seen shitty places hide that fact various ways too. My Chevelle has one of those self tapping repair plugs in it, that I know who installed back when my grandmother had it serviced. It just showed up like that at some point. A friend got a car back with the plug RTV'd on. I've worked in dealerships for 21 years. I have never seen someone use air tools on a drain plug. I have had Jiffy Lube cars come in with OEM crush washers used over and over for 100k before it finally pulled all the threads out. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:05:43 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've worked in dealerships for 21 years. I have never seen someone use air tools on a drain plug. I have had Jiffy Lube cars come in with OEM crush washers used over and over for 100k before it finally pulled all the threads out. had one from firestone 2 weeks ago used the same one so many time no more crush left. broke the pan , thanks for the 18 hours bitches. o wait got to explain it to the dealer haters. when everyone else fucks up it falls in our lap. I've said it before few hundred bucks a year to show your an actual customer you'd be surprised at what they'll help with cost of . |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:12:01 PM EDT
[#29]
I don’t know what the 6.7 power stroke is like, but when I had the 7.3 powerstroke it was the easiest vehicle I’ve ever had for doing my own oil change.
It did take a huge amount of oil, But all I had to do was put some cardboard under where I parked it - for me, then the catch basin, and roll under the truck. No jacks, or ramps. Simple. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:12:30 PM EDT
[#30]
Dealer wants $200 to change the oil in my BMW. I do it for about $50.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:19:54 PM EDT
[#31]
I dont have a diesel but I change my own because it takes way longer to drive to the place, wait and drive home than it does to do it myself. So I do it myself because I am lazy.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:22:24 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what the 6.7 power stroke is like, but when I had the 7.3 powerstroke it was the easiest vehicle I've ever had for doing my own oil change. It did take a huge amount of oil, But all I had to do was put some cardboard under where I parked it - for me, then the catch basin, and roll under the truck. No jacks, or ramps. Simple. Mine would be super easy. Tall enough that you can get a 5 gallon bucket and yourself under it without effort. But I'll still take it to the dealer. $20-$30 over what the supplies cost me? Deal. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:24:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine would be super easy. Tall enough that you can get a 5 gallon bucket and yourself under it without effort. But I'll still take it to the dealer. $20-$30 over what the supplies cost me? Deal. Do you not value your time? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:27:07 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's part of the reason I didn't go with a 6.7 in my 250. The '18 Duramax was about 140 at the dealership for oil and filters. I guess anyone that can't do it in less time than paying someone else to should take it in and have it done.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:34:35 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you not value your time? Most don't. I have three vehicles that take about 20 minutes a piece to change. My daughters' vehicles both take about 30 minutes each because of cartridge filters. There is no way I am going somewhere, waiting, getting it changed and coming back home in less than an hour, best case. And I know it is done right when I do it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:36:23 PM EDT
[#36]
People complaining about the price probably drive Yugo's, or are just poor.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:36:54 PM EDT
[#37]
My Ford dealer charges $5.00 more than it would cost me to DIY so I take it to them.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:38:04 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most don't. I have three vehicles that take about 20 minutes a piece to change. My daughters' vehicles both take about 30 minutes each because of cartridge filters. There is no way I am going somewhere, waiting, getting it changed and coming back home in less than an hour, best case. And I know it is done right when I do it. Absolutely. I can rotate the tires and change the oil on my truck while drinking a couple beers quicker than it would take to just drive to the dealer and back. Not including whatever time I’d have to wait there |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:44:19 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People that take their vehicles to get oil changed make me LOL! Unless you’re driving something like a Maybach. You definitely think you’re more important than you really are in life!! Stop being poor. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:45:27 PM EDT
[#40]
Did you expect them to do it for free?
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:48:15 PM EDT
[#41]
I’m glad you trust your Ford dealer to not be completely retarded.
I don’t have that luxury. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:55:20 PM EDT
[#42]
This thread and other women telling me horror stories on how the mechanic didn't put the oil screw or filter back on tight and pouring the wrong fluids in oil reservoir is why I do my own oil...
You'd think something so simple couldn't be f'd up, but nah.... |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:55:31 PM EDT
[#43]
110 for just my oil and fuel filters. (OE off amazon)
3-400 dollars at dealer. Oil and fuel every 15k. I can do it myself for 200. Lube tech isn't gonna want to pull my oil samples to send off. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:55:51 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Gloves, rags, etc. Oil disposal, environmental fees |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:59:04 PM EDT
[#45]
I took mine to get changed until the warranty ran out (oil changes were covered under the warranty). After that, I started doing it myself.
I changed my oil a couple weeks ago. It cost me $43.91 for the oil and filter. And it took me about 15 minutes (including setup and getting all necessary tools and supplies). I can't get it done for that cheap or that quickly at any place around here. Plus, I don't mind doing it. I know what's going in it and that the filter is new. 2011 F150 5.0 |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 9:01:16 PM EDT
[#46]
10,000 mile oil changes, $90 with 9 quarts of synthetic oil and a tire rotation. Oh poor me, I have to roll out of bed an hour early on Saturday morning every 6 months.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 9:08:37 PM EDT
[#47]
I don’t like putting trust in other people to do work correctly on my vehicles. I would rather not deal with anyone, jam music in my garage, drink beer whenever I want, and work on my own shit.
Just did a oil change, fuel filter, and tire rotation on the duramax for right at $79 in about 1.5hrs 
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Posted: 1/19/2021 9:12:38 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted: 2017 F350, 6.7 Powerstroke. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/IMG_20210119_155001_jpg-1786969.JPG The same oil and filter from Amazon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/Screenshot_20210119-160151_png-1786970.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/Screenshot_20210119-160226_png-1786974.JPG DIY? $105.44 with a couple of excess quarts to use on the next change or toss in the toolbox. Or I can show up with no appointment, wait 1h19m and let some dude use his tools and get dirty and burn his hand. $128.13 I surfed ARFCOM and looked in disgust at the Bronco Sport in the showroom. Plus I'll get some coupons via e-mail. Probably been pointed out already, but that oil is $18.68 from Walmart. So you're a bad shopper too. Hopefully your husband doesn't find out. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 9:13:22 PM EDT
[#49]
Your husband could have done it himself cheaper.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 9:29:40 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted: 2017 F350, 6.7 Powerstroke. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/IMG_20210119_155001_jpg-1786969.JPG The same oil and filter from Amazon: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/Screenshot_20210119-160151_png-1786970.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69748/Screenshot_20210119-160226_png- 1786974.JPG DIY? $105.44 with a couple of excess quarts to use on the next change or toss in the toolbox. Or I can show up with no appointment, wait 1h19m and let some dude use his tools and get dirty and burn his hand. $128.13 I surfed ARFCOM and looked in disgust at the Bronco Sport in the showroom. Plus I'll get some coupons via e-mail. That’s rapey. Local Ford dealer is $70 for oil and filter for my 2017 6.7. That’s doing it myself, but still. |
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