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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:25:54 AM EDT
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Got a sealed 500-rd box of PPU factory 7.62x54
If I bring it to the US, what size ranch-house will I get for it, and how much land will be thrown in to sweeten the deal? Hoping to add a riverside or lakeside aspect to the land as well, but not a deal breaker Also got a lot of .22lr 50-rd boxes Can trade them for 4x4 cars, spare women, ClassIII items, etc |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:28:34 AM EDT
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All I'm saying is if you compare the price increases from business and private sellers. Business gradually raised prices. Private sellers made jumps and literally state in their ad that bans are coming, etc. Private sellers and flippers exacerbate the panic, without a doubt.
Only way to avoid it is stock up before, I agree. I'm not selling shit and if someone truly needs something and is deserving, I will give it to them. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:30:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the seller a 100% disabled vet and a former law enforcement trainer? I dunno; you'll have to ask Bill. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:31:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know who else sells stuff for more than they pay for it, have connections to get things not readily available to the public at those prices, generally buy a large amount and parcel it out????? EVERY FUCKING BUSINESS THAT SELLS STUFF. This |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:32:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy is a knob. But I don’t understand why anyone who needs it so bad they are paying these prices didn’t stock up when it was cheap. I think people want it just because it is scarce and will now pay anything and bitch about the cost, they are dopes too. This is mostly it - it’s an irrational market and the main reason people want to buy it currently is because they can’t find it to buy and panic (the same thing that drove the toilet paper panic last year - no one suddenly needed 2 years worth of toilet paper, but when it disappeared from the shelves their brain said “someone is buying it all, I better buy it all when I can too.”). The actual consumption demand for 22 (the rate at which people are using it up) is the same it has always been, just empty shelves make people panic buy. And these “titans of industry” lining up at 6 am to buy it out in the hopes of flipping it just make sure the shelves stay empty and the panic keeps going. So no, “flippers” aren’t making sure the market works, they’re just adding an extra layer of inefficiency in an already irrational market that won’t return to normal until either everyone willing to pay those stupid prices goes broke or most people wake up and realize “I have one 10/22, what the hell am I ever going to do with 75,000 rounds of Golden Bullet? I’m out.” |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:36:46 AM EDT
[#6]
That’s called speculation not gauging
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:43:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You NEED it, he has it. That is the bottom line. And whats funny is that 99.9% of people think they need it when they dont. Especially fucking .22 |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:24:49 PM EDT
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Big deal. I have a guy coming this afternoon to buy 1,000 loose steel case 9mm for $800 and if he doesn’t show there are currently 4 others in line behind him.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:47:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All I'm saying is if you compare the price increases from business and private sellers. Business gradually raised prices. Private sellers made jumps and literally state in their ad that bans are coming, etc. Private sellers and flippers exacerbate the panic, without a doubt. Only way to avoid it is stock up before, I agree. I'm not selling shit and if someone truly needs something and is deserving, I will give it to them. But, I think the reason private sellers beat retailers to market is because they have much more flexibility and probably have more market info than whoever sets the price of ammo for Walmart. I got banned from a FB group a long time ago during the Sandy Hook panic for suggesting that if Walmart raised their prices to the actual market value of the ammo- that the flippers wouldn't be so prolific. Buyers set the price- and if Walmart or academy can sell everything they stock in 20 minutes then that should trigger a massive price increase. But they'd get crucified online for "gouging" so I understand why they slow roll the price increases. Standard question- is it better for you if Walmart has 100 rounds of 9mm on the shelf for $200/box or for them to have 0 rounds available for $50/box? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:09:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like the problem wasn't necessarily the 'changing of money', but changing of money in the temple. Bad analogy. Nope not at all. They were also ripping the people off. Christ even called them a "den of thieves." |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:12:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I bet you wear a doomer mask to the bathroom.......................  I do the day after I have Asparagus Vindaloo for dinner. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:14:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is part of the problem, people buying stuff they don't need to flip. Not really. They had the time to spend tracking it down, paying the sales tax on it and transporting it. Did you? They did all the leg work, and if you NEED it, here it is if you want to pay for it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a Remington .22lr bucket that I'm holding onto until I can trade it for a lightly used Expedition or Suburban. I've got at least six of those buckets. I'll trade them all for a nice cabin on a lake with a hundred acres and my property taxes pre-paid for ten years. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:18:13 PM EDT
[#14]
Sure, can you come down on the price?
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:19:47 PM EDT
[#15]
For the price I have been seeing for 22 that isn't that bad
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:20:43 PM EDT
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If you aren’t willing to put in the legwork to find ammo, then this guy is the source for you. That’s what he is doing. He is your professional shopper. His time is worth money to someone.
For those of us who are scrambling to find primers, powder, and ammo, we have to have the same strategy. I am lucky, I am retired so I can drive 15 miles from Allen to The Colony, pay as much money in tolls as I do for 300 primers, and have something. Given it is a round trip of 30 miles and it costs about 50 cents a mile to run a car not counting tolls, I am spending $30 to get to get to buy 300 primers at about 12.50 total. Add the three direct costs and you get 300 primers for 32.50 or more than $10/hundred. So if someone is going to charge you $300 for a thousand primers, it’s a bargain. It isn’t the bargain you want, but it is the only bargain you are going to get. Driving around is expensive. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:21:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got at least six of those buckets. I'll trade them all for a nice cabin on a lake with a hundred acres and my property taxes pre-paid for ten years. I've got a cabin on 130 acres with a river will that work? I've been meaning to sell it because there's a rash of wanna-be squatters who show up on the weekend and claim that they own it, even go so far as to creating fake deeds, bills of sale, over a decade of utility bills, and a dozen receipts showing they've paid the property taxes since 2003. Nice try scammers! |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:22:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t help but laugh at guys that make all this effort to buy ammo and flip it for tiny amounts of profit. All the time spent driving to stores and meeting people to buy ammo. Only to make like $50-75 before factoring in gas and your own time. Not even close to worth it. I suppose if I wasn’t a dickhead I’d feel bad for him in some way. No shit. People are uneducated. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:23:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really. They had the time to spend tracking it down, paying the sales tax on it and transporting it. Did you? They did all the leg work, and if you NEED it, here it is if you want to pay for it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That is part of the problem, people buying stuff they don't need to flip. Not really. They had the time to spend tracking it down, paying the sales tax on it and transporting it. Did you? They did all the leg work, and if you NEED it, here it is if you want to pay for it. Wait, so I have to pay a surcharge cause he went to the same store I would have? Gtfo. You must be a middle man irl. You see I know this guy and I know you, sooooo....its only natural I should make some money on this. ETA, I could go back and forth on this all day. Point is, call a spade a spade, people want to profit off panic. Dont give me your bullshit double talk about overhead and foresight, supply and demand and capitalism. As I said before, if these guys are so well versed and experienced, then why swim in the shit of a secondary extremely volatile market, why not use all that knowledge to become the next Bezos. I've asked this before, how much are you guys clearing? 3k (little league) 10k ( not life changing) 25k, 100k?( you better have a liscense or some tax money ready). Call it what it is, keep your jv economist bullshit to yourself. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:26:43 PM EDT
[#20]
I think prices are ridiculous...but saying that no one is forcing anyone to buy at those prices. If you want it and don't mind paying it's there...you're paying for convenience.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:28:08 PM EDT
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So he wants to act like he's doing everyone a favor by stripping store shelves bare so people can't buy any ammo at the stores and have to come to him and his inflated prices? Piss on him.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:34:02 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You NEED it, he has it. That is the bottom line. Nobody NEEDS .22lr. Paying stupid prices is why we have stupid prices. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:35:39 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody NEEDS .22lr. Paying stupid prices is why we have stupid prices. The mob does. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:36:40 PM EDT
[#24]
I KNOW WHAT I GOT!
That said, if you’re going into the flipping market, best to not be thin-skinned. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:58:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody NEEDS .22lr. Paying stupid prices is why we have stupid prices. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You NEED it, he has it. That is the bottom line. Nobody NEEDS .22lr. Paying stupid prices is why we have stupid prices. I imagine a more than a few 22lr "speculators" (lol) were sitting on mountains of ammo the last 6 or 7 years. Ironically they could have probably made similar if not more money dropping that initial outlay into an S&P 500 index fund back in 2013 or whenever. $1000 into that index fund in 2013 would be worth around $3000 now, with no work and not having to sit on illiquid stock for 7 years waiting for the next call of the Horn of the Neckbeards. Idiots. If it makes anyone feel better, a bunch of the old neckbeard coots probably died of natural causes before they got to sell their all 22lr last time
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Posted: 1/19/2021 2:07:20 PM EDT
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* hugs multiple .50 cal cans filled to brim with federal bulk pack contents from salad days *
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Posted: 1/19/2021 2:31:55 PM EDT
[#27]
Wait until the market catches up to the dollar's value. Salad days for everything will be over.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 2:45:38 PM EDT
[#28]
Soon I’m going to have to scrounge around for all the 22 ammo I may have hidden away.
Soon.......... |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:07:32 PM EDT
[#29]
Wouldn't it be funny if people started calling the state or fed and report they were not charged taxes for a large purchase of ammo? Some of you guys are on thin ice and you know it. You know there are some trolls, imposters and 2A haters who would just love to put the screws to you and possibly even Arfcom. Y'all talk about capitalism but you know what you're doing isn't. It's all about how bad the .gov. wants to go after you and in the present political climate they don't need encouragement. Capitol gains can be a bitch.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:11:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wouldn't it be funny if people started calling the state or fed and report they were not charged taxes for a large purchase of ammo? Some of you guys are on thin ice and you know it. You know there are some trolls, imposters and 2A haters who would just love to put the screws to you and possibly even Arfcom. Y'all talk about capitalism but you know what you're doing isn't. It's all about how bad the .gov. wants to go after you and in the present political climate they don't need encouragement. Capitol gains can be a bitch. It's part of my hobby and the money is going right back into my hobby. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:25:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's part of my hobby and the money is going right back into my hobby. Not if you're flipping it. You reselling new ammo? That isn't a hobby. You are welcome to argue that but call your lawyer. You licensed to sell remanufactured ammo? You re-selling new ammo for a few thousand? That is pretty thin in this current climate. Biden's commie bitches would love to get it in the headlines . |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:31:37 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is part of the problem, people buying stuff they don't need to flip. Wonder how many bots are buying up all the primers to slang |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:34:35 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You see, theres a difference between business and bullshit jv economists. Supply and demand works perfectly in business. Jv capitalists stick their dick in it and tell everyone it's for their own good. I would totally fuck with that guy. IF THEY ARE SO SAVVY WHY ARE THEY PUNCHING SOMEONE ELSE'S CLOCK? WHY ARE THEY NICKEL AND DIMING A SECONDARY SUPER VOLATILE MARKET? WHY ARE THEY NOT KILLING IT IN THE REAL BUSINESS WORLD WITH ALL OF THEIR EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You NEED it, he has it. That is the bottom line. Yup. Had all sorts of people pissed at me on reddit bc I wouldnt bash a company for selling ammo at current prices. Made me laugh watching all the emotional downvotes. None of them were welling to sell ammo at 2019 prices though. You see, theres a difference between business and bullshit jv economists. Supply and demand works perfectly in business. Jv capitalists stick their dick in it and tell everyone it's for their own good. I would totally fuck with that guy. IF THEY ARE SO SAVVY WHY ARE THEY PUNCHING SOMEONE ELSE'S CLOCK? WHY ARE THEY NICKEL AND DIMING A SECONDARY SUPER VOLATILE MARKET? WHY ARE THEY NOT KILLING IT IN THE REAL BUSINESS WORLD WITH ALL OF THEIR EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE? Exactly, every moron with 2 brain cells bumping together thinks they are genius for buying something to sell for slightly more that also happens to be in insane demand. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:39:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Communists? You are truly ignorant. Communists would simply confiscate it for redistribution. You have not seen anyone advocate that here. Think a good bit harder. Maybe you could spend your money on buying more mental horsepower. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Another thread for the closet communist to out themselves and those without the mental horsepower to understand basic economic concepts to display their ignorance. Communists? You are truly ignorant. Communists would simply confiscate it for redistribution. You have not seen anyone advocate that here. Think a good bit harder. Maybe you could spend your money on buying more mental horsepower. It his listing! |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 10:39:45 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not if you're flipping it. You reselling new ammo? That isn't a hobby. You are welcome to argue that but call your lawyer. You licensed to sell remanufactured ammo? You re-selling new ammo for a few thousand? That is pretty thin in this current climate. Biden's commie bitches would love to get it in the headlines . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's part of my hobby and the money is going right back into my hobby. Not if you're flipping it. You reselling new ammo? That isn't a hobby. You are welcome to argue that but call your lawyer. You licensed to sell remanufactured ammo? You re-selling new ammo for a few thousand? That is pretty thin in this current climate. Biden's commie bitches would love to get it in the headlines . Who has said anything about selling reman ammo? I'd bet almost everyone here knows you need a ffl to sell reman ammo. [class7] Personally, other then a couple k of HST in early 2020 and some .22 in 2018-19 [split between dec and jan], I haven't bought ammo in a LONG time. Going to be selling some guns I don't need anymore this year too, do I need a FFL for that? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:28:45 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the seller a 100% disabled vet and a former law enforcement trainer? 
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:34:16 PM EDT
[#37]
Ive got .22lr at a buck a round and 5.56 at $5 per round...shipping is extra. Let me know what you need.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:46:37 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The mob does. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nobody NEEDS .22lr. Paying stupid prices is why we have stupid prices. The mob does. If by "mob" you mean grampaw fudd making sure all his grandkids have enough TWENTYTWOS fer squirl and rabbit huntin' for when they aren't busy jerking off to anime porn, dressing up for cosplay LARP and promoting their only fans page, then yes. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:38:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I sold several cases of 223 for $600. I only regret not saving it for now to get $1000. Where would you sell for $1,000? I would part with 2,000 rounds at that price. |
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