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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:10:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not necessarily "issued". Lots of agencies allow personally owned firearms to be carried on duty. Generally speaking, they have to meet certain criteria, and the individual must pass the same qualifications with it. In the rocky mountain west or deep south? Sure. I could even see that in parts of Maine, perhaps into NH. But DC? Hell no. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:11:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting shoulder holster for mag Looks like one of those eagle bandoliers. SCOTUS PD are professional at their job. I don’t know any personally but they were good to go when I got a backstage tour. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:12:24 PM EDT
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Its supreme court police
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they lose an officer lately? I didn't think those were used in solidarity, but just for your department. Is that not accurate? Obviously you've got a Supreme Court Police guy with the uniform and the gun, just curious about mourning bands. Mourning band solidarity is common, esp. in the same state or locality. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:33:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With all the various agencies fed state and local... who is actually in charge? Like who are all the agencies reporting to? Nancy? Big events like this get designated as a "National Special Security Event" and Secret Service takes the lead. Even on a regular day, there's a mind-numbing number of different agencies with armed personnel in DC. I can't imagine how tough it is to keep everything orderly with the way things are now. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:49:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't hear much hate. Most people say the 16 just isn't worth the added cost over the AR platform. If uncle Sam was paying for it, I'd carry one too.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The SCAR has seen lots of use, even among .gov agencies here in the US...it's no surprise. Don't believe all the SCAR hate you hear in gun forums. We are in the 2000s now. Reciprocating charging handles are gay and stupid. The fact that the bolt carrier cracks and breaks if you suppress the rifle means it’s fragile. FN says not to suppress it and that if you do it will void the warranty. It’s like a glock. It will work in factory configuration. Kinda. But you have to switch out lots of parts to get it to be a decent firearm. And there’s a lot better options out there for the money. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:50:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that answers the archaic suppressor question above lol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that answers the archaic suppressor question above lol. Voided warranty and broken bolt is what I see. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 3:53:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, BP had Mk16 hand-me-downs from SOCOM. CBP may have sent some G19s the other way, IIRC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not for Federal Uniformed Agencies in the DC area. That SCAR is more than likely a DRMO gun. That is Supreme Court Police. They were given a small number of the SOCOM SCARs in 5.56mm that were transferred to ICE. ICE was transferred the rifles after SOCOM determined to stick with the M4 since big Army foots the bill for those. I’m not aware of any CBP transfers of G19s to DoD, only the former USCS/HSI G19s that went to SOCOM. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:07:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not necessarily "issued". Lots of agencies allow personally owned firearms to be carried on duty. Generally speaking, they have to meet certain criteria, and the individual must pass the same qualifications with it. I guarantee you people aren’t taking personally owned SBRs to work as uniforms manning a post in DC. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:07:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The SCAR has seen lots of use, even among .gov agencies here in the US...it's no surprise. Don't believe all the SCAR hate you hear in gun forums. She doesn't exactly look like a "high-speed, low-drag operator" though so it's probably just what the Capitol Police arms room handed her. Everything bad I know about the SCAR I learned from SOCOM personnel involved in its fielding. Cliff notes: don’t buy one. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:09:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is Supreme Court Police. They were given a small number of the SOCOM SCARs in 5.56mm that were transferred to ICE. ICE was transferred the rifles after SOCOM determined to stick with the M4 since big Army foots the bill for those. I'm not aware of any CBP transfers of G19s to DoD, only the former USCS/HSI G19s that went to SOCOM. I've seen and fired the Mk16s at ATC no more than 3 years ago. They were BP's, not ICE/HSI. As for the G19s, there's a poster on ARF that works at RRB that has posted about it a few times. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:11:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Feds do this? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not necessarily "issued". Lots of agencies allow personally owned firearms to be carried on duty. Generally speaking, they have to meet certain criteria, and the individual must pass the same qualifications with it. Feds do this? Of course they do not. The shit people say on here...my neighbor is a Fed door kicker agent. They do not carry "personal" arms, he carries a P2000 .357Sig and a beat to fuck UMP 45..he woukd carry his 1911 if it was allowed. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:11:53 PM EDT
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Why would CBP have G19s? Their last several firearms were various 40s that weren’t Glock.
Those guys can shoot IMO. Longest average OIS distance of any LE agency that has numbers. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:12:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The badge looks very similar to Supreme Court Police. The lower portion where you can clearly read the word POLICE looks a like different than what I found but they could have some variations is design depending on positions (e.g. supervisors or investigators and such.). They have their own cops? |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:18:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would CBP have G19s? Their last several firearms were various 40s that weren't Glock. Those guys can shoot IMO. Longest average OIS distance of any LE agency that has numbers. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:22:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They have their own cops? Yes, along with the many other Federal Agencies. DoD has a uniformed police service for the Pentagon. As does the FBI, USSS, US Mint, US Park Service, CIA, NSA, etc... Hell, the Library of Congress Police existed until 2004 when they were merged with the US Capitol Police. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:26:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would CBP have G19s? Their last several firearms were various 40s that weren't Glock. Those guys can shoot IMO. Longest average OIS distance of any LE agency that has numbers. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:28:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They recently purchased G47s and G19s to replace their P2000s in .40 S&W. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:29:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, along with the many other Federal Agencies. DoD has a uniformed police service for the Pentagon. As does the FBI, USSS, US Mint, US Park Service, CIA, NSA, etc... Hell, the Library of Congress Police existed until 2004 when they were merged with the US Capitol Police. Yup even agencies you think wouldn’t do have their own police force. National Zoo under Smithsonian Government Printing Office You can’t drive a few blocks in DC without seeing a law enforcement officer. USSS UD is all over the place not just at the White House. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:34:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would CBP have G19s? Their last several firearms were various 40s that weren’t Glock. They generally would not have a G19. Prior to the formation of CBP the US Customs Service issued the G17 for uniformed inspectors and the G19 for special agents, both in 9mm. It is possible but not probable that a very small number of G19s went to CBP when it was formed. CBP and ICE went to .40 around 2006 after the formation of DHS. CBP had the HK P2000 and ICE adopted the P229 at that time. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 4:43:00 PM EDT
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All I see is Gestapo. Just doing your job isn't going to cut it. Pick a side ladies & gentlemen?
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:05:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All I see is Gestapo. Just doing your job isn't going to cut it. Pick a side ladies & gentlemen? That attitude is so 1942. You have to think in terms of grey not black and white, or you will lose. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:22:04 PM EDT
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Would much rather rock a MK18
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:29:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably uniformed Secret Service Negative. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:30:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The gun that breaks itself..... don’t worry about it boys  I’d like to see you back that up with facts there chief. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:32:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:36:38 PM EDT
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Hell, the Small Business Administration has armed agents
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:38:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: This may be a dupe, but this photo on DailyMail caught my eye. Caption doesn't provide any info, and I can only make it out the word police on the badge. From a little googling, the fragment of a shoulder patch doesn't look like Capitol Police or DC Metro. So which agency is issuing the gucci gear to uniformed officers? https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/16/20/38090328-9155005-image-a-123_1610830185663.jpg Looks like her badge says Capital Police |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:42:31 PM EDT
[#30]
Supreme Court Police
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:43:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that an AAC 18T brake? They issued a Scar and MRO but can’t issue a silencer made in the last 20 years? That's how the government works |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:44:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like her badge says Capital Police Top says “Supreme Court” Bottom says: “Officer Police” It’s Supreme Court Police. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:46:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They have their own cops? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The badge looks very similar to Supreme Court Police. The lower portion where you can clearly read the word POLICE looks a like different than what I found but they could have some variations is design depending on positions (e.g. supervisors or investigators and such.). They have their own cops? So does the FBI, Bureau of Engraving and Printing, US Mint, DLA Police, NSA Police, National Zoo Police, Pentagon (Police) Force Protection Agency, etc etc etc |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 5:55:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's how the government works Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is that an AAC 18T brake? They issued a Scar and MRO but can’t issue a silencer made in the last 20 years? That's how the government works The SCARs and cans were interagency transfers at no additional cost to the taxpayer. I’m very happy with no additional .gov cost passed back to me. If it’s a lightly used but still fits the agency need, why not. If they would have attempted a procurement I’m sure the testing and acquisition would have been $250k or more for a very small number of rifles. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:09:46 PM EDT
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Assuming it's not an inaugural badge, it looks like this:
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Top says “Supreme Court” Bottom says: “Officer Police” It’s Supreme Court Police. The building in the background is the Supreme Court, so that makes sense. https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8911967,-77.0035559,3a,75y,226.65h,84.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stlzuHLdqKQ4a1tpP9bTxyw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:32:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That attitude is so 1942. You have to think in terms of grey not black and white, or you will lose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: All I see is Gestapo. Just doing your job isn't going to cut it. Pick a side ladies & gentlemen? That attitude is so 1942. You have to think in terms of grey not black and white, or you will lose. What's old is new again. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:38:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its a fat bitch that probably takes 10 seconds to perform a speed reload. She's wearing a winter coat, I don't think she's fat. She's also the only person in the picture that even has a rifle. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:49:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't hear much hate. Most people say the 16 just isn't worth the added cost over the AR platform. If uncle Sam was paying for it, I'd carry one too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The SCAR has seen lots of use, even among .gov agencies here in the US...it's no surprise. Don't believe all the SCAR hate you hear in gun forums. For the money I'd rather have an SR16 all day every day. I also have a huge dislike for the MRO. That is a lot of money for a rifle that I seriously dislike. I'm sure it works absolutely fine though, and the person shooting it probably would shoot either equally poorly. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 8:21:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are in the 2000s now. Reciprocating charging handles are gay and stupid. The fact that the bolt carrier cracks and breaks if you suppress the rifle means it’s fragile. FN says not to suppress it and that if you do it will void the warranty. It’s like a glock. It will work in factory configuration. Kinda. But you have to switch out lots of parts to get it to be a decent firearm. And there’s a lot better options out there for the money. Lol. You have no idea what your talking about.  |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 8:25:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not necessarily "issued". Lots of agencies allow personally owned firearms to be carried on duty. Generally speaking, they have to meet certain criteria, and the individual must pass the same qualifications with it. I'm going with that girl didn't bring her own sbr scar 16 to work.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 8:32:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going with that girl didn't bring her own sbr scar 16 to work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not necessarily "issued". Lots of agencies allow personally owned firearms to be carried on duty. Generally speaking, they have to meet certain criteria, and the individual must pass the same qualifications with it. I'm going with that girl didn't bring her own sbr scar 16 to work.  This. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 8:44:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. You have no idea what your talking about. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We are in the 2000s now. Reciprocating charging handles are gay and stupid. The fact that the bolt carrier cracks and breaks if you suppress the rifle means it’s fragile. FN says not to suppress it and that if you do it will void the warranty. It’s like a glock. It will work in factory configuration. Kinda. But you have to switch out lots of parts to get it to be a decent firearm. And there’s a lot better options out there for the money. Lol. You have no idea what your talking about. He's going off data from sites that have information like this. Primarily seems to be within the realm of the SCAR 17 and silencers with higher backpressure but seems to be at least a handful of people that had to pay out of pocket to fix split carriers. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 8:58:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going with that girl didn't bring her own sbr scar 16 to work. Dammit, I was trying to be polite!  And who in their right mind would bring a personal weapon to work with all this BLM hubaloo.... ...wait, we hunting a different species now, so weapons free. 
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:03:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can’t drive a few blocks in DC without seeing a law enforcement officer. Unless you are in Anacostia. 
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:05:36 PM EDT
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I know that the gayTF issues SCAR-L rifles to some agents, or at least, they used to. Don't know if they still do, nor how widely they issued them.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:09:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless you are in Anacostia. I’ll give you that, they are more of a respond to calls mode in that area. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:09:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: USCS inspectors and investigators had the G17 and G19 when the merger happened with INS. USCS + INS = CBP. The Glocks were replaced by the P2000 between FY06 and FY10 or so. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why would CBP have G19s? Their last several firearms were various 40s that weren't Glock. Those guys can shoot IMO. Longest average OIS distance of any LE agency that has numbers. Don't forget AMO has had Glocks for a decent amount of time and they're obviously part of CBP. I've seen pilots walking around with them since 2016 when I showed up to the RRB. So long before the CBP wide transition |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:14:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they lose an officer lately? I didn't think those were used in solidarity, but just for your department. Is that not accurate? Obviously you've got a Supreme Court Police guy with the uniform and the gun, just curious about mourning bands. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's most likely Capital Police, note the mourning band over the badge in OP. That should've given it away. supreme court police. https://i.redd.it/ppaugr1uidk21.jpg Did they lose an officer lately? I didn't think those were used in solidarity, but just for your department. Is that not accurate? Obviously you've got a Supreme Court Police guy with the uniform and the gun, just curious about mourning bands. We use them for LODD state wide or anything high profile. I bet its for the Capitol officer who died |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 9:19:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not necessarily "issued". Lots of agencies allow personally owned firearms to be carried on duty. Generally speaking, they have to meet certain criteria, and the individual must pass the same qualifications with it. I have never heard of a Federal Agency doing this. Can you name one that does? |
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