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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:09:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Happens all the time man. They went around two posted gates to get into my land two years ago. My property is not easy to access. They have started threatening to use drones. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep, seems like a constant hassle with those people. I love the video he had where the guy caught the women from the county on his property nosing around inside his shop. Happens all the time man. They went around two posted gates to get into my land two years ago. My property is not easy to access. They have started threatening to use drones. that's insane. I'm from SE Idaho, most of our family is near there, but in my head I was considering retiring when the time comes up where you were at. It's INSANE we have those pieces of shit from California doing that to people up there. There has to be somewhere where you can build and just be left alone. That makes me sad shit like that is happening up there. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:11:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Twin falls is nice. Im not sure bout building codes. Politics seem to be fairly solid conservative. Its mostly Agriculture and high prairie type terrain. Not a lot of timber. Im fairly certain it gets pretty frigidly cold, but not as much snow fall as in other parts of the state. If you like that kind of scenery, its probably a nice county, and depending where you are, not a huge drive to Boise or Pocatello. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @DCLXVI or anyone else in Idaho; Any feedback on Twin Falls County? Twin falls is nice. Im not sure bout building codes. Politics seem to be fairly solid conservative. Its mostly Agriculture and high prairie type terrain. Not a lot of timber. Im fairly certain it gets pretty frigidly cold, but not as much snow fall as in other parts of the state. If you like that kind of scenery, its probably a nice county, and depending where you are, not a huge drive to Boise or Pocatello. Twin Falls is nice but it is cold as balls there in the winter. It's been mild the last few years so people get a false sense of security, but it's coming, and winters in the open Idaho plains, are not easy. I had years it was 40 below at time, and literal 8' snow drifts. it can get brutal. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:14:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We battled those people for two years straight together. Ultimately you cant win agaist liberals who have more money than you and are determined to destroy your life. We both threw in the towel and let our propertys in Bonners go. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep, seems like a constant hassle with those people. I love the video he had where the guy caught the women from the county on his property nosing around inside his shop. We battled those people for two years straight together. Ultimately you cant win agaist liberals who have more money than you and are determined to destroy your life. We both threw in the towel and let our propertys in Bonners go. Well...damn. lol, I am sitting in my place in Bonner now - 7 miles outside of Sandpoint. There are about 100 turkeys outside doing turkey things. I spent the weekend clearing trees from the storm. I have in my hand, a letter from the assessor, asking questions about the purchase. I am excited to see what kind of crap they are trying to pull. Still, it has to be better than where I left where you have to get permission from the king to pass gas. I brought 5 solid red votes with me. We've been looking for a place like this for years. I'm disappointed in the weak winter so far. I fear it will only encourage warm weather transplants. I like my snow measured in feet. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:22:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Join date and post count smell trollish to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not South Dakota, thats for sure  Join date and post count smell trollish to me. Naw. I agree with him. You guys don't want to move to SD. We don't have electricity, indoor plumbing, what roads we do have are all gravel or mud, and there's lots and lots of sheep and lonely cowboys.  You don't want to move here. Seriously. I hear Texas is really nice though. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:25:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about Texas ? No personal experience but I figured it would be up there. Nope in a few days with open boarders Texas will be full.. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:26:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whichever states are most likely to give a middle finger to the Feds. Probably Wyoming or South Dakota or Idaho. LOL.....large parts of Idaho can’t wait to openly suck off their communist overlords. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:27:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That tiny white dot up and just to the left of the "S" in Sandpoint isn't too very far from Casa D'Osprey. Just understand...wages suck, there is almost no industry but house building, food and gas are expensive and anything close to the lake or in-town starts at about $350K for 1,500 sq feet on a quarter acre. On the lake takes millions. Further out is much cheaper, but shit further out gets wild, fast. The work situation in CDA is much better, but you lose the small town thing and end up in a rapidly expanding city of 45,000+. The rich-and-shameless pour in about June, and pour right back out at the beginning of September. Cali's that move here "permanently" don't tend to stay long. Just make damn sure you want "wild" before you make the commitment. The attrition rate from the first and second winter is high. But...damn, it is beautiful. View out the window this morning...when the clouds clear the mountains and lake in the distance are spectacular. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/457055/DSC_0446_JPG-1783536.jpg Nothing to do but breathe...looks good to me. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:28:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looked into Boise, but it seems like that place is going through a booming nut roll. We are looking to get 20+ acres of leave me alone land without being in the ultra-boonies. The only flights out of TF is Delta 3x a day going to Salt Lake City, they you can go to where you want from there. Somewhere on 84 looks attractive, as you know when it snows, it will be groomed. Little things like that are nice creature-features. The state overall does a great job at snow removal on the roads they maintain. Inside the bigger cities it can become a cluster at times, but most of the main roads are maintained daily. In the panhandle you can get to Spokane for air travel very quickly, and they have great hospitals. CDA has a solid hospital as well, but not as many specialists. Better get that land quick though. Soon there wont be many 20+ acre plots left once CA developers are done with it. There was just a huge tract in southern Bonners that was zoned 20 minimum ag, and developers got the county to rezone it to 5 acre residential overnight, even after tons of protests from local land owners. People dont want the rezoning, but its coming none the less. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:28:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anybody who moves to California right now will be the last ones to be suspected of Wrongthink. That could be useful  CA was once the most beautiful state in the nation. Shame whats happened to it. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:29:31 PM EDT
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I like it here in Ohio.
Just stay out of the major cities. I'm just outside of Columbus and have easy access to hunting, biking and fishing and camping. As for now, politics are good and the weather isn't all that bad. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:32:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that's insane. I'm from SE Idaho, most of our family is near there, but in my head I was considering retiring when the time comes up where you were at. It's INSANE we have those pieces of shit from California doing that to people up there. There has to be somewhere where you can build and just be left alone. That makes me sad shit like that is happening up there. Boundary county is still legit, and its still remote enough that it will probably be atleast a decade before the CA developers get their hands on it. If i could do it over again, i would have never touched Bonners County. Sandpoint is almost as woke as portland these days, and they control the county. Do research on the mayor. He would make some of the leadership in these lefty cities look sane. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:34:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmm, Bonner looks nice... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just saw a report in the local paper regarding the break down of who is moving to Idaho. The biggest group were over 65, the next largest group was 45-65, Assuming, older people are still more conservative than younger people, the state should be okay for awhile. I still think if we got 10K ARF members to move to one county and elected the sheriff, things would be awesome. Of course, where that would work not many jobs available. I'm in!... https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/65/96/13659626a4f3a7750e8329c3380a82f0.jpg Hmm, Bonner looks nice... Dress warm, slow down (our roads are icy), bring money, change your plates. We have an awesome sheriff and state legislator. 
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:35:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well...damn. lol, I am sitting in my place in Bonner now - 7 miles outside of Sandpoint. There are about 100 turkeys outside doing turkey things. I spent the weekend clearing trees from the storm. I have in my hand, a letter from the assessor, asking questions about the purchase. I am excited to see what kind of crap they are trying to pull. Still, it has to be better than where I left where you have to get permission from the king to pass gas. I brought 5 solid red votes with me. We've been looking for a place like this for years. I'm disappointed in the weak winter so far. I fear it will only encourage warm weather transplants. I like my snow measured in feet. Howdy neighbor  @Bushleaguepilot is in the neighborhood as well. We've put off a meet-up until the plague clears a little, but with luck maybe this spring we can all hook up. Wouldn't surprise me if we don't have a couple more members in the area, too. @BTccw, are you in the Sandpoint area? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:38:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well...damn. lol, I am sitting in my place in Bonner now - 7 miles outside of Sandpoint. There are about 100 turkeys outside doing turkey things. I spent the weekend clearing trees from the storm. I have in my hand, a letter from the assessor, asking questions about the purchase. I am excited to see what kind of crap they are trying to pull. Still, it has to be better than where I left where you have to get permission from the king to pass gas. I brought 5 solid red votes with me. We've been looking for a place like this for years. I'm disappointed in the weak winter so far. I fear it will only encourage warm weather transplants. I like my snow measured in feet. Keep fighting the good fight brother! Bonner county is as beautiful as its gets. I hope you guys can keep it that way, but drive south, and you will very easily see the encroachment. I wish you luck in Idaho friend! Its about as close to paradise as your going to find. My mom still lives in CDA. They had lots of damage in the neighborhood from that last wind storm. Still without power and trying to get trees cleared out. Times like that i was always glad to be fully off grid. Never lost power lol. As soon as you guys get a heavy winter, many will flee. Always the way of things up there. Are you off grid? If you fish, let me know. I know all the good trout spots in the area. I miss my moma moose that would hang with me this time of year when i downed my timber for summers processing. She was ok with me getting extremely close. She would wait for me to drop timber, and then come in and eat the fresh growth off the top of the timber. This time of year is the best time to take down timber up there. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:41:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dress warm, slow down (our roads are icy), bring money, change your plates. We have an awesome sheriff and state legislator. The sheriff is indeed awesome. Need to work on getting rid of those county commissioners, and getting a new Mayor in Sandpoint(will never happen) |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:41:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Twin Falls is nice but it is cold as balls there in the winter. It's been mild the last few years so people get a false sense of security, but it's coming, and winters in the open Idaho plains, are not easy. I had years it was 40 below at time, and literal 8' snow drifts. it can get brutal. Yea, thats what i expected. I can deal with snow, but hate the frigid cold. N idaho was perfect for me because of that. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:42:22 PM EDT
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Wyoming isn't too windy.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:42:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Howdy neighbor @Bushleaguepilot is in the neighborhood as well. We've put off a meet-up until the plague clears a little, but with luck maybe this spring we can all hook up. Wouldn't surprise me if we don't have a couple more members in the area, too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well...damn. lol, I am sitting in my place in Bonner now - 7 miles outside of Sandpoint. There are about 100 turkeys outside doing turkey things. I spent the weekend clearing trees from the storm. I have in my hand, a letter from the assessor, asking questions about the purchase. I am excited to see what kind of crap they are trying to pull. Still, it has to be better than where I left where you have to get permission from the king to pass gas. I brought 5 solid red votes with me. We've been looking for a place like this for years. I'm disappointed in the weak winter so far. I fear it will only encourage warm weather transplants. I like my snow measured in feet. Howdy neighbor @Bushleaguepilot is in the neighborhood as well. We've put off a meet-up until the plague clears a little, but with luck maybe this spring we can all hook up. Wouldn't surprise me if we don't have a couple more members in the area, too. I’ve had the pleasure of meeting Bushleaguepilot and sneadhern at the Athol coffee meet. Good people! Bushleague is a hell of a writer. 
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:44:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL.....large parts of Idaho can’t wait to openly suck off their communist overlords. The real issue is transplants moving from city life to "live simple" but then demand a Starbucks on every corner. They dont really want simple life, they just want the illusion. They bring with them HOAs and all the other garbage, and big corporations that have deep pockets to change the demographics. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:46:23 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve had the pleasure of meeting Bushleaguepilot and sneadhern at the Athol coffee meet. Good people! Bushleague is a hell of a writer. I used to get water in Athol in the winter. My dear friend owns the huge Yak ranch there. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:55:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Boundary county is still legit, and its still remote enough that it will probably be atleast a decade before the CA developers get their hands on it. If i could do it over again, i would have never touched Bonners County. Sandpoint is almost as woke as portland these days, and they control the county. Do research on the mayor. He would make some of the leadership in these lefty cities look sane. C'mon DCLXVI, some of the "artistic communities" in and about Sandpoint have been here for decades. There's no doubt the mayor is a dipshit, but his initiative to build low-income housing for Somalis (or wherever they were from) got stomped pretty hard. The mayor only gets re-elected because you have to live in Sandpoint city limts to vote in that election, and the "Love Lives Here" fucktards are thick down there - or at least as thick as you get with a massive population of 8,000 people. Our BLM protest this summer was mostly high school girls and a couple of straphangers put together by the lib school teachers. Even at that they were outnumbered by armed conservatives. I agree with you about the county managers (we watched on security cameras two women come down my 900 foot driveway, park, get out and walk all the way around the back of my house while we weren't home), but the guy who built Dover Bay is a life-long resident. Idagon is a local building company, too. Plenty of locals are selling their birthright without a backwards glance to profit from the influx. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 5:59:18 PM EDT
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In my biased opinion Oklahoma has the best political climate but the economics of the state are very tied to oil/gas as a whole and therefore in the next few years the state will probably be hurting under the biden/kamala administration. Eastern part of the state is beautiful with the ozark and ouachita mountains. Downside is extremely high humidity at times in the summer and tornado warnings a regular occurrence in the spring.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:06:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, it makes no difference. The US as a whole is in for a world of shit, no one will be immune. Find some place pretty with things you like to do and go there. I honestly believe this. Everything will be done on the federal level, that sticks it to red states, and leaves blue state governors not to blame. There is no real other way to accomplish the lefts goals. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:07:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: C'mon DCLXVI, some of the "artistic communities" in and about Sandpoint have been here for decades. There's no doubt the mayor is a dipshit, but his initiative to build low-income housing for Somalis (or wherever they were from) got stomped pretty hard. The mayor only gets re-elected because you have to live in Sandpoint city limts to vote in that election, and the "Love Lives Here" fucktards are thick down there - or at least as thick as you get with a massive population of 8,000 people. Our BLM protest this summer was mostly high school girls and a couple of straphangers put together by the lib school teachers. Even at that they were outnumbered by armed conservatives. I agree with you about the county managers (we watched on security cameras two women come down my 900 foot driveway, park, get out and walk all the way around the back of my house while we weren't home), but the guy who built Dover Bay is a life-long resident. Idagon is a local building company, too. Plenty of locals are selling their birthright without a backwards glance to profit from the influx. It was syrians. I think we pretty much agree on all things. I think the main issue with Sandpoint, is the percentage of female voters inside the city limits. But IT IS the most liberal city outside of Moscow in the state, and its not getting better. But hey, atleast they have those solar garbage cans and that new astro turf. I stopped buying anything within the city limits two years ago. I also agree that outside of the city almost everyone is conservative, and its still overall a great county, but developer money is coming quickly, as well as the change that comes along with it. But again, if i could do it all over again i would pick boundary in a heart beat and i would always recommend conservatives do the same. That county is much more insulated from the incoming issues. Ill also add my issue is not really with out of state transplants. Just the out of state developers. Most of the best Idahoans i met were transplants. I miss Idahome. Ill be back to visit in late summer/early fall for trout. Anymore Griz attacks in the selkirks this past hunting season? I was right over the ridge fishing that day those Bow hunters that had the run in. @Osprey61 |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:17:03 PM EDT
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Oh wow, I got @'d.
Had the pleasure of meeting BTCCW a few weeks ago and corresponded with Osprey61 earlier in the year. I firmly believe our area is one of the last best places. Great people, great country. I have met with Sheriff Wheeler a few times, I can attest that he's a good man who believes in and abides by the constitution and is really the embodiment of what a Sheriff should be and what all law enforcement needs to be. As to the original post I'd look at Bonner and Boundary counties in ID, NorthWestern MT, WY and SD. Bonner county property is skyrocketing and traffic is way more than what it was when I moved here several years ago . I think Boundary is still a little cheaper and quieter. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:53:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: Keep fighting the good fight brother! Bonner county is as beautiful as its gets. I hope you guys can keep it that way, but drive south, and you will very easily see the encroachment. I wish you luck in Idaho friend! Its about as close to paradise as your going to find. My mom still lives in CDA. They had lots of damage in the neighborhood from that last wind storm. Still without power and trying to get trees cleared out. Times like that i was always glad to be fully off grid. Never lost power lol. As soon as you guys get a heavy winter, many will flee. Always the way of things up there. Are you off grid? If you fish, let me know. I know all the good trout spots in the area. I miss my moma moose that would hang with me this time of year when i downed my timber for summers processing. She was ok with me getting extremely close. She would wait for me to drop timber, and then come in and eat the fresh growth off the top of the timber. This time of year is the best time to take down timber up there. I'm not off grid - we have power, but are working to make the place less power dependent. The dude who built it made it doable, with the exception of the well pump. One concession is for my mother, I'm going to add a pellet stove for her in a little cabin that's on the back of the place. I debated a real wood stove, but at her age (80s's) its not practical. I'd love fishing tips. I misspent a couple of years in the Sawtooth/Frank Church area guiding rich guys on fishing hunting trips and definitely have the bug. I wish I liked the taste of turkey since there are a billion of them here. Quoted: I’ve had the pleasure of meeting Bushleaguepilot and sneadhern at the Athol coffee meet. Good people! Bushleague is a hell of a writer. It was a good chat I hope to repeat. I'll need help testing my range once I remove a few trees that are in the way. Of course the way things are going we might be throwing spears at the targets, but it'll be a good project to keep my occupied. Quoted: C'mon DCLXVI, some of the "artistic communities" in and about Sandpoint have been here for decades. There's no doubt the mayor is a dipshit, but his initiative to build low-income housing for Somalis (or wherever they were from) got stomped pretty hard. The mayor only gets re-elected because you have to live in Sandpoint city limts to vote in that election, and the "Love Lives Here" fucktards are thick down there - or at least as thick as you get with a massive population of 8,000 people. Our BLM protest this summer was mostly high school girls and a couple of straphangers put together by the lib school teachers. Even at that they were outnumbered by armed conservatives. I agree with you about the county managers (we watched on security cameras two women come down my 900 foot driveway, park, get out and walk all the way around the back of my house while we weren't home), but the guy who built Dover Bay is a life-long resident. Idagon is a local building company, too. Plenty of locals are selling their birthright without a backwards glance to profit from the influx. We got that vibe a little bit when we were here a couple of years ago. If they would mind their own business I wouldn't care, but if Karen gets in my space I'll be quite put out. Look forward to connecting with you sometime @Osprey61 I'm off Rapid Lightning. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:54:10 PM EDT
[#27]
Ohio
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Posted: 1/18/2021 6:58:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not off grid - we have power, but are working to make the place less power dependent. The dude who built it made it doable, with the exception of the well pump. One concession is for my mother, I'm going to add a pellet stove for her in a little cabin that's on the back of the place. I debated a real wood stove, but at her age (80s's) its not practical. I'd love fishing tips. I misspent a couple of years in the Sawtooth/Frank Church area guiding rich guys on fishing hunting trips and definitely have the bug. I wish I liked the taste of turkey since there are a billion of them here. It was a good chat I hope to repeat. I'll need help testing my range once I remove a few trees that are in the way. Of course the way things are going we might be throwing spears at the targets, but it'll be a good project to keep my occupied. We got that vibe a little bit when we were here a couple of years ago. If they would mind their own business I wouldn't care, but if Karen gets in my space I'll be quite put out. Look forward to connecting with you sometime @Osprey61 I'm off Rapid Lightning. If your off rapid lightning, your a hops skip and a jump from some of the best alpine trout fishing in the world. Send me a PM and ill share the spots with you when your ready. The selkirks are my stomping grounds. Many miles and many overnights spent in those mountains. I know a lot of very good people that live off Rapid lightning. Your in the best area in the county IMO outside of the upper pack river area.. My place was NE of the lower pack river bridge. I was baptized there. Very close to where you are. Prime rib night at samuels!  Dont bother fishing the pack river. I have only ever caught little white fish. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:03:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Used to be. With the oil field as down as it is right now, the State government facing huge funding shortages and has been throwing taxes on everything they can think of, and if it's already taxed, they're increasing it. And now with our carpetbagger representative Cheney just deciding to turn leftist... What about Alaska? Beautiful state to live in. Cost of living is high. You’re typically either working with the oil/ gas industry up north, in the military, in aviation or some sort of fishing/ outdoorsy job. Cost of ammo is fucking RIDICULOUS RIGHT NOW. Ammo is only allowed to come in one way due to laws and import restrictions... by barge. Supply up here is scarce and the barge ship tax is bullshit. If you want good ammo prices, stay in the lower 48... lower cost of living. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:05:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not off grid - we have power, but are working to make the place less power dependent. The dude who built it made it doable, with the exception of the well pump. One concession is for my mother, I'm going to add a pellet stove for her in a little cabin that's on the back of the place. I debated a real wood stove, but at her age (80s's) its not practical. I'd love fishing tips. I misspent a couple of years in the Sawtooth/Frank Church area guiding rich guys on fishing hunting trips and definitely have the bug. I wish I liked the taste of turkey since there are a billion of them here. It was a good chat I hope to repeat. I'll need help testing my range once I remove a few trees that are in the way. Of course the way things are going we might be throwing spears at the targets, but it'll be a good project to keep my occupied. We got that vibe a little bit when we were here a couple of years ago. If they would mind their own business I wouldn't care, but if Karen gets in my space I'll be quite put out. Look forward to connecting with you sometime @Osprey61 I'm off Rapid Lightning. Beautiful out there. We eat lunch at the Pack River Store all the time in the summer. We'll be in touch. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:06:46 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Beautiful out there. We eat lunch at the Pack River Store all the time in the summer. We'll be in touch. Floating the river, and getting lunch and a shower at the pack river store. About as fun a summer day as it gets. I heard they shut the showers down though? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:12:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: Beautiful out there. We eat lunch at the Pack River Store all the time in the summer. We'll be in touch. Quoted: Floating the river, and getting lunch and a shower at the pack river store. About as fun a summer day as it gets. I heard they shut the showers down though? Their Meat Omelet is the most amazing thing I've had in a long time. I had one yesterday. I think it's still with me. Damnit, now I think I'll have to get one tomorrow. So much for my food budget. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:20:41 PM EDT
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The federal infringements will be coming fast and furious, and the first time SCOTUS blocks them, SCOTUS will get "fixed" with 2 or 3 young radical additions. NO place will be unscathed.
That said, I did some pretty detailed research and ranking a few weeks ago while thinking about leaving New Yorkistan. This is based on my particular priorities, but the list is sound overall IMHO. I ranked by voter base ("redness"), growth of the red voter base, whether the state was surrounded by mostly red states (the bleed-over effect), economy (current + growth forecast), climate, cost of living, gun rights (least restrictive ranked better), etc. I weighted the voter base / voter base growth / gun rights pretty high. Economy and cost of living weighted a little lower. Climate and crime weighted lowest (but still significant). Keep in mind now that the commies are in and salivating at destroying the energy sector, the economic outlook in the Dakotas and West Virginia is probably significantly lower. I'm gravitating towards Oklahoma, maybe a rural spot outside of Tulsa, but this is still a ways out for me as I have obligations here still. One thing against the southern plains is the proximity to Mexico - the upcoming massive influx of illegals + amnesty is going to depress the economies there first, and cause voting shifts to purple or blue.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:05:46 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wyoming isn't too windy. Absolutely not... Especially on I-80 around Laramie. ?? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:37:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing to do but breathe...looks good to me. It can be the best place on earth to sit by the woodstove and sip single malt. Took a while, but the clouds are starting to lift. The silver sliver is the mouth of the river that flows off Lake Pend Oreille.  |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:39:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I watch a off grid guy on YouTube who lives there. Seems like he is always battling with the code enforcement people from the county. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hmm, Bonner looks nice... I watch a off grid guy on YouTube who lives there. Seems like he is always battling with the code enforcement people from the county. Perhaps he *would get moar off grid then  ...ETA: *should, and read more of the posts about him... |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:39:35 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It can be the best place on earth to sit by the woodstove and sip single malt. Took a while, but the clouds are starting to lift. The silver sliver is the mouth of the river that flows off Lake Pend Oreille. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/457055/DSC_0499_JPG-1785756.jpg Beautiful spot you got there. Should probably mention, if you move to N. Idaho from warmer and sunnier areas, the short days and lack of sunshine in the winter will be a tougher adjustment than the cold and snow. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:40:52 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, it makes no difference. The US as a whole is in for a world of shit, no one will be immune. Find some place pretty with things you like to do and go there. There are no more safe states. Any state with a big city, good economy, or anything will be invaded by liberal locusts. Plus, they control all 3 branches of government so there is no more running. Get used to that. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:51:06 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I lived in Idaho off grid for the last 5 years. Just relocated in NOV. Prior to that i was in CDA for almost 15. If your building from scratch, stay out of Bonner county. The commissioners are CA transplants, that want building codes to reflect their CA values, and they are parceling up property into 5 acre parcels everywhere. Sandpoint is also the most liberal backwards town in idaho, with the exception of maybe moscow. We had a huge battle with them with weekly protests over them trying to regulate how people could live on their raw property while building. Tax assessors are draconian, and will tresspass, even break into your home, and they often assess added value t the property for non permanent structures like RV's and campers. Even an out house will get a 10k assessment increase. The selkirks are nice if you are gonna pick Bonner county. Look around upper pack river. Great people. Some of the best. But unfortunately Sandpoint runs politics there. If i was going to make a suggestion, it would be go north to Boundry county. About the most free county your gonna find in the nation. Great people, but obviously less modern ammenities, and Bonners Ferry is gonna be the biggest local town. Stay out of Kootenai unless your just buying and holding land until a developer from CA offers you crazy money to split your holdings into 1 or 5 acre lots.  I miss Idaho greatly. Only reason i left is because an out of stater offered me money i couldnt refuse. Now im on a 5 year plan to go back off grid again, this time near the equator where i can wear flip flops and tank tops year round. Best alpine trout fishing in the nation. If your a fisherman, hit me up. Ill tell you all about the secrets. Saw KS in an earlier post and paused for a second. Makes sense now... |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:57:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dress warm, slow down (our roads are icy), bring money, change your plates. We have an awesome sheriff and state legislator. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just saw a report in the local paper regarding the break down of who is moving to Idaho. The biggest group were over 65, the next largest group was 45-65, Assuming, older people are still more conservative than younger people, the state should be okay for awhile. I still think if we got 10K ARF members to move to one county and elected the sheriff, things would be awesome. Of course, where that would work not many jobs available. I'm in!... https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/65/96/13659626a4f3a7750e8329c3380a82f0.jpg Hmm, Bonner looks nice... Dress warm, slow down (our roads are icy), bring money, change your plates. We have an awesome sheriff and state legislator. ...
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:34:57 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was syrians. I think we pretty much agree on all things. I think the main issue with Sandpoint, is the percentage of female voters inside the city limits. But IT IS the most liberal city outside of Moscow in the state, and its not getting better. But hey, atleast they have those solar garbage cans and that new astro turf. I stopped buying anything within the city limits two years ago. I also agree that outside of the city almost everyone is conservative, and its still overall a great county, but developer money is coming quickly, as well as the change that comes along with it. But again, if i could do it all over again i would pick boundary in a heart beat and i would always recommend conservatives do the same. That county is much more insulated from the incoming issues. Ill also add my issue is not really with out of state transplants. Just the out of state developers. Most of the best Idahoans i met were transplants. I miss Idahome. Ill be back to visit in late summer/early fall for trout. Anymore Griz attacks in the selkirks this past hunting season? I was right over the ridge fishing that day those Bow hunters that had the run in. @Osprey61 You guys are harshing my buzz. I have dreams of moving to northern Idaho once the kids are grown and all the Yankees finish trying to ruin TN. It sounds like Idaho is becoming just another flavor of what's happening all over-blue state refugees ruining once fine places. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:37:59 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You guys are harshing my buzz. I have dreams of moving to northern Idaho once the kids are grown and all the Yankees finish trying to ruin TN. It sounds like Idaho is becoming just another flavor of what's happening all over-blue state refugees ruining once fine places. Its still a great place. I encourage conservatives to come there to balance out the leftists who destroyed their home towns and then fled. But like i said, Boundary seems to be the most insulated from the incoming issues. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:40:04 PM EDT
[#43]
I’m foing back to my home State of FL.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:42:06 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It can be the best place on earth to sit by the woodstove and sip single malt. Took a while, but the clouds are starting to lift. The silver sliver is the mouth of the river that flows off Lake Pend Oreille. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/457055/DSC_0499_JPG-1785756.jpg |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:54:41 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe somewhere around the TX/OK border. OK should be redder longer, but TX has oil and its own electric grid. Even though TX is turning, the soon to be minority white conservative males there will always be a strong minority. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:58:08 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Very beautiful there and 2A friendly Wyoming is awesome! |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:58:47 PM EDT
[#47]
May have missed it, but where are you now OP?
We need reinforcements and welcome any true Gun loving, commie hating American. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:10:22 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The federal infringements will be coming fast and furious, and the first time SCOTUS blocks them, SCOTUS will get "fixed" with 2 or 3 young radical additions. NO place will be unscathed. That said, I did some pretty detailed research and ranking a few weeks ago while thinking about leaving New Yorkistan. This is based on my particular priorities, but the list is sound overall IMHO. I ranked by voter base ("redness"), growth of the red voter base, whether the state was surrounded by mostly red states (the bleed-over effect), economy (current + growth forecast), climate, cost of living, gun rights (least restrictive ranked better), etc. I weighted the voter base / voter base growth / gun rights pretty high. Economy and cost of living weighted a little lower. Climate and crime weighted lowest (but still significant). Keep in mind now that the commies are in and salivating at destroying the energy sector, the economic outlook in the Dakotas and West Virginia is probably significantly lower. I'm gravitating towards Oklahoma, maybe a rural spot outside of Tulsa, but this is still a ways out for me as I have obligations here still. One thing against the southern plains is the proximity to Mexico - the upcoming massive influx of illegals + amnesty is going to depress the economies there first, and cause voting shifts to purple or blue.
Jesus. Knock off the post whoring, will you? I did a similar analysis a while back. I am largely in agreement with your results, except for a few states. West Virginia--It's too well surrounded by blue states, and is prime for takeover by liberals. People will want to move out of Maryland, Northern Virginia, and Pennsylvania but not have to commute too far. West Virginia is a really attractive option for them. Tennessee--Nashville is growing too fast for my liking. The state is very red, but it was slightly less red in 2020 than it was in 2016--Donald Trump got a very slightly lower percentage of the vote in 2020, and Biden picked up ground from where Clinton was. Montana--While it's an extremely reliable state for Republicans in presidential elections, Montana sends Democrats to statewide office and the Senate too often. Texas--Texas is on the verge of becoming a purple state. North Carolina--North Carolina almost went blue in 2020. Biden received two percentage points more than Clinton got. Trump got less support (both times) than Romney. And North Carolina went for Obama in 2008. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:49:22 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Join date and post count smell trollish to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not South Dakota, thats for sure Join date and post count smell trollish to me. Which one of my posts lead you to believe im a troll? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 11:51:05 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Florida for the next couple of years. After that South Dakota or Tennessee. A third of the country has constitutional carry I can't see why anybody would say states that aren't even in that list would be the best. Florida and Tennessee both require permit to carry, you can't even open carry without a permit in those States. There is much better. |
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