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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:05:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's to policeman entire county (howcmany square miles and how many vehicles). This is for one small complex. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:10:05 AM EDT
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Takes a lot of bodies to lock down the Capitol.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:22:07 AM EDT
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When I was arrested at the Capitol, the amount of unimpressive milk sops that I saw was eye opening.
Btw, the tunnel system underneath is pretty neat. Looked ancient. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:59:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: average salary: 225K Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: $460,000,000 budget with 2000 officers and still threatened by an unarmed woman average salary: 225K Not likely salary but salary plus the other costs of employing.......medical, retirement, training etc. They couldn’t be making as much as a congressman without living on site for the OT. I am betting good pay but not as good as speculated. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:29:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit pay, high cost of living, no career advancement, horrible hours, shitty work details, and no chance of crossing over to a better agency. Yeah, they have a high turnover rate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Someone here said the job is a miserable one with high turnover. Plus theres that on who killed herself after 1/6. I know a guy that has been on the USCP for just over a year. He's in the process of leaving and going to be a cop elsewhere, way away from D.C. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:35:17 AM EDT
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Maybe "Defund the Police" is not such a bad idea after all.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:39:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you understand the difference in roles between a typical County Agency and the Capitol Police? You need more manpower for onsite physical security. They aren't handling dispatched calls for the most part. I'm by no means experienced in this; but I would imagine that the equipment cost would be significantly higher for a county sheriff department that is driving a ton of miles (millions?) a year and one that seems to be primarily guys standing around with high vis tape on a glock. Again; I don't really know shit about the capitol police except they value the lives on Congress over average Americans. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:40:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: average salary: 225K  You’re kidding, right? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:49:00 AM EDT
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Do they publish either RFQs/RFPs for their purchases or just do non-competitive cost plus with firms strangely all within one degree of separation from officeholders?
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:30:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2,000 officers for one building?  Each of those buildings has access controls and other security functions associated with it (though Supreme Court has its own police force as well). They also have investigative functions, a mission to respond to a much larger area than just the capitol compound, and 435 high maintenance charges (and their families) for protective duties nationwide. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:37:44 PM EDT
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Lets do some math. We have an agency with 2000 on it's staff. Let's say they have the latest Motorola radio issued to just half that number. The latest Motorola top of the line radio goes for $3000 to $5000 so we will just say $2000 with all the accessories that come with them ...because.. Uncle Sugar.
$2000 X 1000 officers = $2,000,000 |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:40:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So it is basically a slush fund for loser relatives of the politically connected. Would love to see a salary list. Bingo! |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:42:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bingo! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So it is basically a slush fund for loser relatives of the politically connected. Would love to see a salary list. Bingo! We have no idea what we're talking about but we're doing it in numbers, and we agree with each other. Oh, look how smart we are! Nobody "politically connected" in DC is working a law enforcement job. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:23:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2,000 officers for one building? did you think, before posting this? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:26:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So it is basically a slush fund for loser relatives of the politically connected. Would love to see a salary list. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:35:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: average salary: 225K Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: $460,000,000 budget with 2000 officers and still threatened by an unarmed woman average salary: 225K Insert MrGarrisonRetardAlert.gif |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:36:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, average pay is $200,000? They hiring? I'm not sure how some of you make it through the day. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:39:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have no idea what we're talking about but we're doing it in numbers, and we agree with each other. Oh, look how smart we are! Nobody "politically connected" in DC is working a law enforcement job. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So it is basically a slush fund for loser relatives of the politically connected. Would love to see a salary list. Bingo! We have no idea what we're talking about but we're doing it in numbers, and we agree with each other. Oh, look how smart we are! Nobody "politically connected" in DC is working a law enforcement job. Get out of here with your common sense and facts, Bohr. This is GD, where critical thinking is a lost art. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:39:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: did you think, before posting this? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 2,000 officers for one building? did you think, before posting this? Dude, it's GD. What do you expect? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:46:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get out of here with your common sense and facts, Bohr. This is GD, where critical thinking is a lost art. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So it is basically a slush fund for loser relatives of the politically connected. Would love to see a salary list. Bingo! We have no idea what we're talking about but we're doing it in numbers, and we agree with each other. Oh, look how smart we are! Nobody "politically connected" in DC is working a law enforcement job. Get out of here with your common sense and facts, Bohr. This is GD, where critical thinking is a lost art. Why do you even post here if you think we're all so stupid? We don't need your smug condescension, we just want to smugly condescend everyone else. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:55:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DEFUND CAPITOL POLICE!!!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: it's 2000 officers with an annual budget of $460,000,000!! https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/01/capitol-hill-riot-was-pelosis-fault-not-trumps-daniel-greenfield/ The Capitol Police have over 2,000 sworn officers. A police force dedicated to protecting Capitol Hill has more personnel in its service than the police forces of most of the country. Congress' private cops are the 19th largest police force in the country. It’s a larger force than the police forces of Atlanta, Baltimore, Denver, or Milwaukee with a massive $460 million budget. It’s the only legislative federal force in the country that is answerable exclusively to Congress. DEFUND CAPITOL POLICE!!!!!! Defund the politicians instead. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:57:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Their pay is horrible and you can't transfer to another agency since they fall under the Legislative and not the Executive. Most federal agencies are under the Executive. I've met quite a few Feds that started in Capitol Police or VA Police after the military and then went to other agencies. Those guys stand post and work. They all aspire to work as 1811s in agencies where the case load is marginal. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:58:24 PM EDT
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Generally poor reputation. High turnover rate as officer start there while waiting to go somewhere else. Should be rolled into FPS. Bad to incompetent leadership, tiny patrol area, but not just the capital. Lots of extra "body guard" staff assignments to accompany speaker of the house, or various senators/congress people that need or at least feel they need security.
No need to see a conspiracy with what happened, last week the people in charge are double digit IQ yes men. Also when they were handling the riots over the summer, they also sucked, got lots of help from DC PD, secret service, bureau of prisons and dozens of other agencies. Supreme court police, much, much worse. Politics aside, America actually needs competent professionals in these positions, something we are never actually likely to see. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:04:00 PM EDT
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I was gonna apply back in the day for CP cuz I liked the pay scale and then I realized the cost of living. Then decided a deputy job in Iowa was WAY better even tho the pay tops out at 65k. Gotta factor that cost of living and having basically no gun restrictions $$$$$$
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:17:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: average salary: 225K |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:20:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: average salary: 225K Um, no. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:22:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Retarded people everywhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: average salary: 225K 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:30:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm guessing that's not all payroll. There's probably something in their reserved for buying weapons, ammo, training, etc. Well, maybe not training... wonder what chunk of that goes to doing backgrounds, and keeping up with regulatory crap? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:40:19 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Generally poor reputation. High turnover rate as officer start there while waiting to go somewhere else. Should be rolled into FPS. Bad to incompetent leadership, tiny patrol area, but not just the capital. Lots of extra "body guard" staff assignments to accompany speaker of the house, or various senators/congress people that need or at least feel they need security. No need to see a conspiracy with what happened, last week the people in charge are double digit IQ yes men. Also when they were handling the riots over the summer, they also sucked, got lots of help from DC PD, secret service, bureau of prisons and dozens of other agencies. Supreme court police, much, much worse. Politics aside, America actually needs competent professionals in these positions, something we are never actually likely to see. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:43:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh yeah, I remember the media calling Trump a coward for that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From the linked article: “When Black Lives Matter rioters, incited by Democrats and the media, besieged the White House, 60 members of the Secret Service’s Uniformed Division were injured holding the line while President Trump and his family were taken to a bunker. 11 members of the Service were hospitalized due to the violence of the BLM riot that Democrats falsely claimed was peaceful.” Oh yeah, I remember the media calling Trump a coward for that. Funny the double standard in play (turning DC into what looks like a green zone in Iraq). |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:58:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure how some of you make it through the day. It was a joke. But I bet if we got a list of the yearly pay, I bet a lot of them made $200k+. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:06:47 PM EDT
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Praetorian..
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:14:10 PM EDT
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And yet Nancy Pelosi failed to do her job and reinforce their lines. I think that's an Impeachable Offense.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:15:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://saportareport.com/atlanta-city-council-approves-budget-it-does-not-defund-the-police/sections/reports/maggie/ Atlanta's P.D. budget is $218 milliion... "By a 13-2 vote, Atlanta City Council approved a budget for the year that starts in July with proportions similar to this year’s budget. About one-third of general fund money, or about $218 million, will go to the Atlanta Police Department." Yeah. But I would bet that Atlanta has to spend more on cars and gas. 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:19:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think welfare in DC pays better Quote HistoryQuoted: I think welfare in DC pays better There was an article a while back that said living on Welfare is like having an $80k job.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:24:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was a joke. But I bet if we got a list of the yearly pay, I bet a lot of them made $200k+. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm not sure how some of you make it through the day. It was a joke. But I bet if we got a list of the yearly pay, I bet a lot of them made $200k+. I bet a lot of them didn't because it exceeds the yearly limit for salary, which was $168k last I checked. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:48:29 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's to policeman entire county (howcmany square miles and how many vehicles). This is for one small complex. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm surprised it's not more. The county PD where I used to live is around the same size and their budget is $530 million. The neighboring county PD has approx 2,400 cops and a $894 million budget. That's to policeman entire county (howcmany square miles and how many vehicles). This is for one small complex. The county I live on is bigger than DC. The budget is $10.4 million and 67 deputies. Not one Congresscriter to defend though. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:00:23 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet a lot of them didn't because it exceeds the yearly limit for salary, which was $168k last I checked. Always ways around those limits. Ask any .gov employee. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:13:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Always ways around those limits. Ask any .gov employee. I know a GS14-10 that worked for free many times because he had "made" too much in a pay period. Most Capitol Police are like GS-9s with no AUO or LEAP. It's more of a jobs program for those trying to get off welfare than anything. It's very vibrant organization. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:21:00 PM EDT
[#40]
Can’t be having the political elites threatened nor feel unsafe, now can we...
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:22:49 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $230,000 per officer. That actually doesn't sound too outrageous in terms of dollars per officer. I had no idea they had that many officers though. Doubtful that there are enough posts for that many folks to stand/report to, even with rotating shifts. No doubt there are more than a few ‘employees’ that haven’t been on duty in quite a while... ETA: No, I have no idea what I’m talking about. Yes, I’m skeptical of all things fed Remainder of thread has added insight to the CP... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:26:02 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. That's not how it works. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: $460,000,000 budget with 2000 officers and still threatened by an unarmed woman average salary: 225K Lol. That's not how it works. Sure it is, leaves $5k per man for overhead, kit, expenses, etc... ... 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:28:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat salary is modest, but the benefits are what draws folks to gov service... https://www.uscp.gov/careers/uscp-employee-benefits |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:31:28 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't hate the player, hate the game. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So it is basically a slush fund for loser relatives of the politically connected. Would love to see a salary list. The players are complicit, regardless of who made the rules... ...yeah, yeah: If they didn’t, then someone else would |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:39:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Defund the politicians instead. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: it's 2000 officers with an annual budget of $460,000,000!! https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/01/capitol-hill-riot-was-pelosis-fault-not-trumps-daniel-greenfield/ The Capitol Police have over 2,000 sworn officers. A police force dedicated to protecting Capitol Hill has more personnel in its service than the police forces of most of the country. Congress' private cops are the 19th largest police force in the country. It’s a larger force than the police forces of Atlanta, Baltimore, Denver, or Milwaukee with a massive $460 million budget. It’s the only legislative federal force in the country that is answerable exclusively to Congress. DEFUND CAPITOL POLICE!!!!!! Defund the politicians instead. Link to petition?... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:42:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do tell... I know a GS14-10 that worked for free many times because he had "made" too much in a pay period. Most Capitol Police are like GS-9s with no AUO or LEAP. It's more of a jobs program for those trying to get off welfare than anything. It's very vibrant organization. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Always ways around those limits. Ask any .gov employee. I know a GS14-10 that worked for free many times because he had "made" too much in a pay period. Most Capitol Police are like GS-9s with no AUO or LEAP. It's more of a jobs program for those trying to get off welfare than anything. It's very vibrant organization. Interesting... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:44:52 PM EDT
[#47]
Lol
And they could stop a mob of unarmed folks from breaking in the Capitol and posting selfies. I bet they are gonna be lots of job openings soon. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:46:57 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 65k to help Nancy Pelosi off the toilet. No thanks That’s the fetish of some sick MF’ers in here
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:08:28 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryWith benefits and retirement I would figure each starting officer cost $90,000-$95,000 a year plus any overtime. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:13:51 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From the linked article: “When Black Lives Matter rioters, incited by Democrats and the media, besieged the White House, 60 members of the Secret Service’s Uniformed Division were injured holding the line while President Trump and his family were taken to a bunker. 11 members of the Service were hospitalized due to the violence of the BLM riot that Democrats falsely claimed was peaceful.” And then the Left launched a social media campaign to shame Trump for going into the bunker, knowing full well that the Secret Service moved him there, he didn't go running himself. It would be like if people were making fun of the Democrats for not coming out and talking to the guy with the zip ties. |
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