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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:32:11 PM EDT
[#1]
Slow fuckers...
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:34:04 PM EDT
[#2]
In Oregon, servers get whatever minimum wage is, tips are gravy on top. I believe Washington State is the same way. In idaho the wage is 3.35 and tips are combined in with the employer making up the difference.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:37:02 PM EDT
[#3]
They're about to get a big lesson in how economics work.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:42:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Tips" will automatically be added to the bill. I will bet $100 that will be the case after a few months after implementation. If they do that and the waiters are making full minimum wage I'd be done eating there after that. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:42:19 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So a 40$ meal is now going to be 60-80$. I don’t think this will work out the way Xiden thinks it will. No, it’ll work out EXACTLY as they want it to- it’s called inflation and their intention is to devalue anyone’s wealth and reduce the buying power of the middle and upper middle classes... |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:44:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: depends on the service. Same. $15 isn't exactly beach house money. Everyone needs to make a living. IMO if it's good service and you can afford it, tip. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:45:27 PM EDT
[#7]
If service goes above and beyond whats expected. yes. Pretty much my standard is if my soda/water runs dry, then you are not going above and beyond whats expected. Especially if i have to ask for a refill.
Same with any labor or delivery jobs. If you go above and beyond expectations, ill probably give you a healthy tip. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:45:32 PM EDT
[#8]
BJ and clean up for that wage
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:46:40 PM EDT
[#9]
You know who this really hurts? People currently making $15-$20 or so. Their buying power is about to get wiped out, because they're not getting any raises now, and the resulting inflation is effectively gonna cut their standard of lifting at the knees.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:50:17 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know who this really hurts? People currently making $15-$20 or so. Their buying power is about to get wiped out, because they're not getting any raises now, and the resulting inflation is effectively gonna cut their standard of lifting at the knees. True. Some people like RMAs and mechanics make about that and went to school for a trade, certificate or associates degree too. Thats sucks. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:53:26 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: biden's proposal eleminates the $2.13 tipped employee wage. menu prices will skyrocket. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I may be wrong but minimum wage laws don't apply when the employee receives tips. Tips are suppose to be claimed daily and taxed as part of their income. Regardless I will tip. Increasing minimum wage won't help anyone. It just means that everything we purchase will cost more since employers have a larger overhead. Groceries, gas, fast food, etc. It won't help minimum wage earners so much as hurt the middle class directly above them. If minimum wage is increased do you think everyone is going to get a coinciding pay bump. Nope... those making $18 currently will still make the same but there money won't go as far. biden's proposal eleminates the $2.13 tipped employee wage. menu prices will skyrocket. Not necessarily. We’ll just see more places eliminating most minimum wage jobs. You’ll start carrying your own tray to your table. Guess what happens to all those ex-servers?? Straight to the government tit!! Socialism for everyone! |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:53:33 PM EDT
[#12]
Even with a $15 federal minimum wage, wait staff and tipped service workers would be exempt so they'll still be making $2.13 per hour.
The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) allows employers to pay workers who customarily receive tips less than the standard minimum wage as long as certain conditions are met—but the rule's applicability has been diminished by state laws that set higher minimum wages or ban subminimum wages altogether. Under federal law, employers can take a tip credit by paying tipped workers, such as servers and bartenders, as low as $2.13 an hour if those workers earn at least the standard minimum wage of $7.25 an hour once their tips are added in. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:53:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Nope, especially if the waitress isn’t cute.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:59:36 PM EDT
[#14]
Mr. Pink doesn't tip.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:59:47 PM EDT
[#15]
I don't tip kiosks and robots.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:04:03 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Even with a $15 federal minimum wage, wait staff and tipped service workers would be exempt so they'll still be making $2.13 per hour. Quote HistoryQuoted: Even with a $15 federal minimum wage, wait staff and tipped service workers would be exempt so they'll still be making $2.13 per hour. not according to reporting on biden's plan: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/14/biden-calls-to-raise-the-federal-minimum-wage-to-15-per-hour.html Raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour, as well as ending the tipped minimum wage and sub-minimum wage for people with disabilities will help ensure that workers across the country can provide for their families, according to the briefing. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:04:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know who this really hurts? People currently making $15-$20 or so. Their buying power is about to get wiped out, because they're not getting any raises now, and the resulting inflation is effectively gonna cut their standard of lifting at the knees. You’re thinking small apples. How many educated professionals are going to start picking up some part time shifts, doing jobs that only minimum wage workers currently take? I’d stock shelves part time in the evening, if it meant I could cover my mortgage with it. You know what happens to the old night time shelf stockers?? Straight to the government tit!! Moar socialism! |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:05:15 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I may be wrong but minimum wage laws don't apply when the employee receives tips. Tips are suppose to be claimed daily and taxed as part of their income. Regardless I will tip. Increasing minimum wage won't help anyone. It just means that everything we purchase will cost more since employers have a larger overhead. Groceries, gas, fast food, etc. It won't help minimum wage earners so much as hurt the middle class directly above them. If minimum wage is increased do you think everyone is going to get a coinciding pay bump. Nope... those making $18 currently will still make the same but there money won't go as far. Yes but there is a min wage for tipped workers as well. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:05:25 PM EDT
[#19]
If you eat somewhere where the servers customarily are tipped and you don’t leave a tip, don’t eat there again unless you like spit in your food.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:07:16 PM EDT
[#20]
This will likely hurt tipped people as they make more than min with tips especially if it isn't taxed.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:09:36 PM EDT
[#21]
No tips unless I get a happy ending with my meal
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:10:07 PM EDT
[#22]
Generally no.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:15:38 PM EDT
[#23]
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:17:42 PM EDT
[#24]
Depends on who they voted for
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:21:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Most of the votes are like mine. I feel validated.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:24:08 PM EDT
[#26]
My daughter makes $5 an hour plus tips. Most service jobs that typically receive tips are exempt form the minimum wage laws.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:25:04 PM EDT
[#27]
We are pretty good cooks here.
We will eat at home a lot more. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:28:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:30:54 PM EDT
[#29]
SOOOOOO, I may be wrong on this.
Minimum wage is there for: a new to the market employee to learn learn job skills and better themselves as their knowledge and education increases? Basic platform until one has proved themselves a capable employee. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:42:51 PM EDT
[#30]
Around here 90% of all working people are paid less then $15 hr.
No fucking way this is going to work |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:44:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Just remember everyone making 15 dollars now will be making at least 22 the next day.
The guys making 22 will go to 29. And on up the chain. All the union contracts will change too. Their wages are not going to stay the same if everyone else goes up. Prices on raw materials and building supplies are going through the roof even as we type. Pvc, copper, steel, concrete, lumber, etc. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:49:21 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it’ll work out EXACTLY as they want it to- it’s called inflation and their intention is to devalue anyone’s wealth and reduce the buying power of the middle and upper middle classes... Exactly. This is how they take your retirement account without “taking” it. Monetary policy that gets what they want at the cost of inflation. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:52:38 PM EDT
[#33]
I won't stop tipping, I'll stop going. With a $15 minimum wage, restaurant prices will nearly double. I'm not paying $80 per person for a restaurant meal. $12 Big Mac here we come.....
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:57:12 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I totally believe in tipping to the service level as locally most waitstaff make $2.xx/hour. If they start making $15/hour, the food prices will go up without a doubt. And they will be getting paid to do their job instead of earn their pay. I will most likely not be tipping anybody making $15/hour. My thoughts as well. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:10:30 AM EDT
[#35]
With a $15 minimum wage(in any industry, not just service) will come layoffs, less people doing the same work, and of course the real goal...
The ability to blame businesses for their evil greed because they raised prices to stay in business. Blame business to raise their taxes and redistribute wealth. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:23:48 AM EDT
[#36]
It's a stupid custom, and fuchs be upon the restaurant owners who subsidize their businesses from the shame of their customers for the treatment of their own employees.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:24:45 AM EDT
[#37]
I'll tip the robot that replaces them for finally making a burger that looks like the picture on the menu
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:29:43 AM EDT
[#38]
Well, let's think about this.
Does the 15 dollar an hour raise go to wait staff? If so, does it affect my cost for food? Finally, since I'm used to paying a "lazy tax" for eating out and being served, and when I do go I tend to find a few places I like a lot where the wait staff get to know me... I like to tip them well so that my service is better than average. So yeah, you can make the argument that service should be better than average without tip, but given the way tipping and wages have evolved in this country... Not tipping for good service is just being a cheap POS. Don't want to tip? Fix your food at home. JMHO ymmv |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:06:27 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted: So supposedly the new stimulus includes a minimum wage hike which got me thinking.... I don't think I would still tip if they no longer rely on tips. Considering the hyperinflation has already started, tipping is the least of my worries. I’d better get a raise if I’m going to be able to keep feeding myself even home made food. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:13:54 AM EDT
[#40]
I dont understand how leftists can't comprehend consequences of doubling the minimum wage.
Nothing happens in a vacuum. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:15:16 AM EDT
[#41]
I’m pretty sure they banned the service industry because covid.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:15:20 AM EDT
[#42]
After the meal prices go up a ton and the servers are getting 15 i will not tip a dime
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:16:11 AM EDT
[#43]
no way
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:16:59 AM EDT
[#44]
I doubt I'm going to be eating out much if my bills are double.
One thing about Covid, is that has rekindled my love of grilling in the backyard. I had forgotten how good a piece of steak you could buy, for half of what they charge you for a mediocre one at a restaurant. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:17:28 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, let's think about this. Does the 15 dollar an hour raise go to wait staff? If so, does it affect my cost for food? Finally, since I'm used to paying a "lazy tax" for eating out and being served, and when I do go I tend to find a few places I like a lot where the wait staff get to know me... I like to tip them well so that my service is better than average. So yeah, you can make the argument that service should be better than average without tip, but given the way tipping and wages have evolved in this country... Not tipping for good service is just being a cheap POS. Don't want to tip? Fix your food at home. JMHO ymmv |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:19:04 AM EDT
[#46]
Tipping in restaurants with $15/hr employees will be irrelevant. There will be no $15/hr restaurant employees. Because there will be no restaurants. Because they can't afford $15/hr employees
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:19:05 AM EDT
[#47]
As it is right now, service workers who get paid tips get an hourly wage that is less than even the established minimum wage. If that exception is removed from the law and service workers get the same hourly wage as any other worker then I do not see the point. The purpose of tips was to bring the wage up to at least minimum wage standards.
I may be 58 but if she is hot then yes of course 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:30:08 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same. $15 isn't exactly beach house money. Everyone needs to make a living. IMO if it's good service and you can afford it, tip. If the cost of the item exceeds the value received, I don’t buy. I don’t care what someone else is making. If the tip/meal cost is higher than its value to me, I reduce the variable expense (the tip). In other words, that stack of pancakes is not worth $30 plus a $6 tip . |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:30:32 AM EDT
[#49]
The people making $15/hr now will expect $20, and so on. My daughter who's working as an LNA before heading to nursing school will now make the same as someone handing french fries out a window. Small town cops will now make the same as the chick that they buy their donuts from. Then the morons that support this initiative start wondering why everything is so expensive.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:38:13 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: SOOOOOO, I may be wrong on this. Minimum wage is there for: a new to the market employee to learn learn job skills and better themselves as their knowledge and education increases? Basic platform until one has proved themselves a capable employee. Get out of here with your ‘70’s thinking. All jobs are now supposed to pay a ‘living wage’. McD counter jockeys are doing that job for life with no interest in anything else. Young kids don’t take a minimum wage job to learn skills that can be applied in the larger market - they take out $100k in student loans to get worthless degrees. |
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