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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:28:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're not a poor, get both. MP5 and 9mm AR. I have both. Same, I have a mp5, stribog, scorpion and 2 9mm ars a d they all work perfectly. People who say this shit just want to stir shit. Why do you care op? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:29:09 PM EDT
[#2]
OP is not completely wrong.
9mm out of an AR platform is more about saving money on ammo, and/or being able to find ammo, for a short barreled AR, over getting the best ballistics/performance out of an AR. 10mm or .300blk are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9mm out of an AR platform with a short barrel. If you want to shoot for cheap .22LR >>>>> 9mm out of a short barrel. But if you want something with a really short barrel that you can somewhat afford to practice with, 9mm isn't a horrible choice if using 124gr HST (+p) or 147gr HST for SD. Still....the "ballistics" are the same out if the same rounds are fired out of a handgun with a similar barrel length. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:29:19 PM EDT
[#3]
Shoot what you like. Why bash fellow gun enthusiast just because like something different then you.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:30:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted: If you want an AR, get it in a rifle caliber. If you want a sub-gun. Buy an HK MP5 or SP5. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:30:52 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My SCAR SBR with optic and suppressor cost less than what SP5s are commanding, fucking desperate idiots on the market. That’s not a fair comparison all prices are going up. I’m sure the scar, optic, suppressor bought today would be quite a bit more than whatever you paid. At one point SP5s were $2500 |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:31:00 PM EDT
[#6]
going shooting is awesome
a 9mm AR can help you go shooting 9mm ARs are awesome QED |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:31:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shoot what you like. Why bash fellow gun enthusiast just because like something different then you. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:32:03 PM EDT
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As an owner of both.
9mm AR runs circles around MP5, fucks its bitch, shits all in its bed, raids the fridge and drinks its beer. AR; $400 vs $1800 and up AR; $12 magazines vs $60 AR; Feed ramp and less picky about projectile shape AR; Last round bolt hold open AR; Controls are reachable and not designed around mutant hands AR: Easily swap bbl lengths AR; Far easier to accessorize AR; No retarded mount needed for optics AR; lower can host other calibers (mine has Colt style mag blocks) MP5: Much smoother shooting MP5; looks cool |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:32:27 PM EDT
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I tend to agree. I finally broke down and built a 300 BO... more for fun than anything. No plans for 9mm in anything but a handgun.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:32:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Then I’ve never wanted to hold a penis more
In my life than right now. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:33:23 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I refuse to take gun advice from someone with a user name that includes 2 useless firearms.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:33:46 PM EDT
[#12]
QC10
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:34:02 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Semi-auto "subguns" are Your original comment was full of derp, so I fixed it for you.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:34:17 PM EDT
[#14]
I regret building mine tbh. I could have bought a GHM9 instead.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:35:33 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I regret building mine tbh. I could have bought a GHM9 instead. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:36:08 PM EDT
[#16]
Totally agree.
I tried the whole ar9 thing. Fucking hated it. I didn’t see the point of a carbine that had more felt recoil than my 5.56 guns. ***** that does not mean it’s bad recoil. That means from shot to shot, I am quicker to get my reticle back on target with a 5.56***** Went the hk route and it’s been a ton of fun. Probably the most fun I have had with a gun in a while. It accomplishes what I actually wanted from a 9mm setup. Super light recoil, very fast follow up, super easy to maneuver. Only think that really sucks is the trigger, but even with the not good trigger I’m MUCH faster making hits on target. To a lesser degree the manual of arms. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:36:12 PM EDT
[#17]
Fantasizing about a sweaty locker room tryst with your muscled bros after a basketball game is gay. Guns aren't gay.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:36:26 PM EDT
[#18]
MP5 bros are adorable,
Pay more money for less performance because smoooooooov.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:38:04 PM EDT
[#19]
I like the CMMGs but they're not worth the cost for me.
I would like to see more magazine in the grip guns. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:38:10 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What does a semiautomatic 9mm AR do, that a glock 34 with a 33 round mag doesn't do??  Hit targets at 100 yards. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:38:18 PM EDT
[#21]
Not if it has delayed blow back.
Also screw your snob stupid crap, not everyone has 3k for a niche weapon that's largely outdated and not that relevant with specific configurations of AR's in more powerful calibers the same size. Now stop being a faggot gloating to like minded firearm enthusiasts and Americans. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:38:36 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryNothing gay about those at all..............they are fun in FA |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:41:39 PM EDT
[#23]
One time when I was taking a leak at Outback, there was a 9mm AR tapping its toe, deliberately
Left in a kia Always thought the whole situation was weird, now it makes sense |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:42:07 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted: Buy an HK MP5 or SP5. My buddy built this. We've yet to shoot it with subs (he built it right when ammo started going full retard), but it's pretty cool. I really don't like straight blowback though. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:42:46 PM EDT
[#25]
Why would I spend a shitload of money on a toy when I can have a lot of fun with a cheap AR that uses a pile of mags I already own?
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:43:43 PM EDT
[#26]
I already had a ton of Glock mags and got a PSA PCC for a steal.
It isn't as slick as my brother's HK SP5K semi-auto, but it is just as accurate, ...and I had spent about 2000 less than he did. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:44:38 PM EDT
[#27]
Had one because I thought I would schlep it to the pistol range with me when I went. I ended up doing that exactly once and got rid of it years ago.
Kinda wish I had it back now. The “carbine” concept (a pistol and a “rifle” in the same caliber) is appealing. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:44:39 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: MP5 bros are adorable, Pay more money for less performance because smoooooooov. Do you even resale value bro? Smooth, looks cool, never lose a dime. What’s wrong with that. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:44:46 PM EDT
[#29]
They are fun to shoot, use to be cheap to shoot, and they are effective at CQB distances.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:45:59 PM EDT
[#30]
Back before Scorpions, Striborgs, AK5s, etc, it was either $2500 HK94, $1300 shitty roll of the dice clone, a $600 Uzi, or $800 AR9.
Kharn |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:46:47 PM EDT
[#31]
The DOE clone I shot in full auto was more fun than I thought it would be...and a whole lot easier to shoot well than a full auto Glock.
Sure there are better choices for a lot of jobs, but 30 rounds of 9 will kill a lot of shit. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:48:56 PM EDT
[#32]
It's for training with AR controls places you can't shoot an AR and the ammo was half the price.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:48:58 PM EDT
[#33]
I got em all, so there is that. 556, 6.5 10mm 9mm...for that matter 22LR
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:49:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Yours might be.....but mine arent
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:49:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: If you want an AR, get it in a rifle caliber. If you want a sub-gun. Buy an HK MP5 or SP5. Go stand down range and talk that shit  Seriously though I really like both my 9mm AR and my 45acp AR. Both are very reliable and very quiet suppressed. And I do have more than one AR in 223/5.56 |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:50:22 PM EDT
[#36]
I want one that takes Scorpion mags and uses CMMG's radial delay system. I don't think the RDB can be shoehorned into an AR-V without significant modification though.
 Until then, I'm much happier with my Evo. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:52:18 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are fun to shoot, use to be cheap to shoot, and they are effective at CQB distances. https://i.imgur.com/0edVgN3l.jpg I’ll see your operation Just Cause and raise you some SAS rappelling action. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:53:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:53:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:54:05 PM EDT
[#40]
OP is right, can't prove him wrong.
Blowback sucks |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:54:13 PM EDT
[#41]
I remember back in the day when people just liked shooting guns for fun and didn't estimate the size of their cohort's dingus by the caliber he was shooting.
 Attached FileYeah, it was a LONG time ago. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:54:26 PM EDT
[#42]
Moo, moo, buckeroo...
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:55:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:01:50 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then I’ve never wanted to hold a penis more In my life than right now. Just call me Richard Simmons  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:02:43 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What does a semiautomatic 9mm AR do, that a glock 34 with a 33 round mag doesn't do?? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:05:47 PM EDT
[#46]
I agree
direct blowback is stupid roller delayed Master Race |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:05:51 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You forgot that mp5/sp5 have horrible ergonomics Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: SP5s are obsolete overpriced boomer toys used only to flex on normal gun owners that don't care and have watched die hard since 1997. Prove Me Wrong You forgot that mp5/sp5 have horrible ergonomics I love the mp5 but it's like the AK of subguns, reliable but outdated and overrated. And waaaay over priced even pre panic. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:05:53 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: QC10 I have one of the older DDLES AR lowers. I really like it. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:06:34 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Easily mount any optic or light you want and have 3 points of contact. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What does a semiautomatic 9mm AR do, that a glock 34 with a 33 round mag doesn't do?? That stuff doesn’t count. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:07:05 PM EDT
[#50]
Gotta agree. At one point I had a PSA upper on a standard AR lower with endo mags and also a FM pistol. The PSA honestly felt better, and ran better. Right out of the box the FM I had to tinker with, and the last round bolt hold open never worked. Ended up getting rid of both of em.
Only way Id get another is if I ran across a factory Colt at a really good price. And only out of nostalgia. |
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