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Holly shit Bohr is laying on the holier than thou sanctimonious I'm more educated than you I'm the only adult shit more than usual.  It's a sight to behold!

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 You tried “principled conservatives” and what happened? Mom Jeans Romney,the least masculine chooser of masculine pronouns in modern Republican history,was accused of being a general in the War on Women. Do you even remember the War on Women? It was about 12 outrages ago so you can be excused for it having slipped your mind.  
 Its hilarious that some of you think you can actually bargain away enough to appease the far left who is driving American society right now. Your 2024 platform could include funding of Planned Parenthood and it won’t be enough because you compromised on only making abortion available on demand to women over 18 rather than all xersons of any age. Go ahead and try though,it will be funny to see the Republicans kneeling in kente cloth 4 years too late.
 

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Yes, you speak for all of arfcom. And the OP, who is actually arfcom staff? He doesn't speak for anyone. And because I agree with him, and disagree with you, I am attacking all of arfcom.

This logic exists in your world, that same world where apparently it's anti-Republican lies to suggest what happened at the Capitol was anything close to insurrection (even though Republican congressman and Senators have called it as much), while defending those who cite the Declaration of Independence (an argument for insurrection to justify it taking place. But then you suggest that was not what you were defending, even while, in seemingly your next breath, you suggest that those who support what just happened in the Capitol somehow represent all Republicans. Thus when I suggested their motivations hinged on a marxist world view, it was an attack on all Republicans. Honestly, my head spins trying to keep up.

My only questions are this stage is: Is there any behavior, by anyone resisting various Left wing agendas, that you are willing to say crosses a moral line for you, and not "might as well do it, they'll accuse us of it anyway?"  Is there any criticism of any activity done in the name of resisting Left wing ideology, that you will not interpret as an attack on all Conservatives?

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Holly shit Bohr is laying on the holier than thou sanctimonious I'm more educated than you I'm the only adult shit more than usual.  It's a sight to behold!

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Last summer, I got into several heated debates about the ongoing riots. There were some who stridently argued that ALL people involved in the BLM-type riots were commies, they all should know better, and therefore they were ALL guilty and deserving of the highest punishment, which included throwing them into ovens as one person claimed. I pointed out that using that standard, "our" side could be in real trouble and that I prefer to judge people individually for what they had or hadn't done, not by guilt by association. I was criticized by quite a few, and called a "commie" by several.

Now, after the Capitol riots of last week, I wonder how you feel now that the shoe is on the other foot. How many lefties are condemning the entirety of conservatism by the actions of a few misguided QAnons and MAGA types? Are we all Nazis? Should we have known better than to associate with conservatism? Should WE be thrown into ovens?

I maintain my original position: Judge each person according to their merit, not necessarily by their association. That is all...

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So, what is it? Is it bullshit to get lumped in with the people who attacked the capitol, or is anyone who has anything against what happened at the capitol a quisling attacking all conservatives?

Does it take some kind if super duper education to recognize that these two things can't exist in the same logical worldview?

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There are several people in this thread I have wholly agreed with. And at least one person who agreed with me at first and seemed surprised by it. That you see my back and forth with a relatively small handful of posters as some overarching epic contrarian battle against all Republicans, all arfcommers, or whatever the next group you seem to think you speak for continues to simply say a lot about you. You sure have quite the fanbase, though.

The next step in your MO now is to say that I am being disruptive to this site by standing up for myself, and calling for some sort of staff action. I suppose it's only a matter of time.

Meanwhile, you avoid my question about where you draw a moral line. You might want to ask yourself that, even if you don't want to answer here on this forum.

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So, what is it? Is it bullshit to get lumped in with the people who attacked the capitol, or is anyone who has anything against what happened at the capitol a quisling attacking all conservatives?

Does it take some kind if super duper education to recognize that these two things can't exist in the same logical worldview?

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Anyone who doesn’t agree with MEEEEEE is part of the vast conspiracy...

The (not so) new ARFCOM logic...

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Last summer, I got into several heated debates about the ongoing riots. There were some who stridently argued that ALL people involved in the BLM-type riots were commies, they all should know better, and therefore they were ALL guilty and deserving of the highest punishment, which included throwing them into ovens as one person claimed. I pointed out that using that standard, "our" side could be in real trouble and that I prefer to judge people individually for what they had or hadn't done, not by guilt by association. I was criticized by quite a few, and called a "commie" by several.

Now, after the Capitol riots of last week, I wonder how you feel now that the shoe is on the other foot. How many lefties are condemning the entirety of conservatism by the actions of a few misguided QAnons and MAGA types? Are we all Nazis? Should we have known better than to associate with conservatism? Should WE be thrown into ovens?

I maintain my original position: Judge each person according to their merit, not necessarily by their association. That is all...

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Your error is believing that the left is capable of logic and not willing to participate in violence to obtain their goals. Towit, the denial that Antifa even exists vs. the speed at which the Capital violence was denounced by Republicans.

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Don’t get baited by him dude. He did the same bullshit in the other thread. People start to point out his obvious admiration for communist leaders and he trolls for awhile before reminding people that he is a staff members who will remove you from the site. It’s his ace in the hole card he plays. When his trolling fails he moves to intimidation. Don’t get roped in to the “prove I’m a communist” game he is trying to tee up right now.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73787/AE1A1822-E241-4792-9A7D-236EF59919C8_jpe-1781699.JPG

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@Zhukov is wrong.


While I can wholely say that violence is not my preferred method of political discourse, Zhukov takes a position founded in idealism and skipping an entire year of the Overton Window being opened up, never mind the last decade.

Bush was in office, everyone was retarded warmongers following the monkey-Bush president. Burning the flag was acceptable, but protesting was to remain mostly peaceful. Coverage strictly one sided, few arrested.

Obama was in office, everyone who disagreed was racists. Those on the left were standing up for justice, and the "few trouble makers" were quietly dealt with, though mainly with kids gloves. Those on the right were racist trouble makers. Gun owners were racist while filming a black man carrying a rifle, with the zoom fully on the rifle so as not to see the black man carrying it.

Trump gets in office, protesting becomes a , "duty and obligation". The coverage of protests are overwhelmingly positive. Media carried hateful messaging to the people in a decidedly one directional matter. A baseball game was shot up by a deranged leftist and that single person,once linked, became 'not what we stand for, SEE LOOK WE SAID WE DON'T CONDOM IT' only to go right back into the political rhetoric. A Supreme Court Justice had a kangaroo court, complete with false accusations getting full prime time coverage without an iota of evidence. But don't worry, the media did their job to insulate the Democrat party members and ensure positive coverage to the left.

Fires erupted behind news reporters and Governors surveying damage were forced to flee. Attacks on Trump supporters were normalized. Kidnapping kids was treated like Jaywalking. State AGs ensured that rioters were let out of jail, uncharged. An organized resistance to law and order was formed, complete with phone numbers to lawyers funded by the Vice President and her staff. Hell, we weren't even allowed to ask about protesting for the purpose of COVID tracking.

That "normal and acceptable" form of protest was now violence. Violence against the community, the police, and the opposite political side. Murder in the street due to political leaning did not start with the right.

On 1/6 the Right walked through the window the Left opened and they were shocked. Only this time it wasn't the local Stop and Rob convenience store being burned. It wasn't the local hair salon being robbed, or the show store, or Best Buy and Walmart. It wasn't the police, white people, or the statues of long dead Americans being hit. The anger, through the window, was directed at  a legislature that had investigated ever nose hair on Trump but refused to look at massive voting irregularity. A judicial branch that has seen every "voter suppression" case they could find, but refused to hear last minute changes to State constitutions without the consent of the people.

With the anger being directed at them, the minions of Congress got scared and now we see the result. A combined effort to get the serfs in line.

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Last summer, I got into several heated debates about the ongoing riots. There were some who stridently argued that ALL people involved in the BLM-type riots were commies, they all should know better, and therefore they were ALL guilty and deserving of the highest punishment, which included throwing them into ovens as one person claimed. I pointed out that using that standard, "our" side could be in real trouble and that I prefer to judge people individually for what they had or hadn't done, not by guilt by association. I was criticized by quite a few, and called a "commie" by several.

Now, after the Capitol riots of last week, I wonder how you feel now that the shoe is on the other foot. How many lefties are condemning the entirety of conservatism by the actions of a few misguided QAnons and MAGA types? Are we all Nazis? Should we have known better than to associate with conservatism? Should WE be thrown into ovens?

I maintain my original position: Judge each person according to their merit, not necessarily by their association. That is all...

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Your expectations are unrealistic.

People are pushed to their limits and they're going to do irrational things.

You are expecting a crowd of civilians to have the discipline of a seal team?