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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:52:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who maintains principles and standards in an era of extremists will be deemed a traitor or worse at one time or another. Just look at the the crowd turned in so many commentators who criticize the violence last summer and were consistent with their criticism of the violence earlier this month. The majority of people who claim to have an issue with a given tactic or method, only really have an issue with the political view that is is attempting to advance. They will embrace those same tactics and methods they second they see an opportunity to advance their own interests. Well 2021 is off to an interesting start. I agree with B_A. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:55:47 PM EDT
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I've only seen you post a few times, and you've never been right.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:56:33 PM EDT
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We should have a "Dumbest Moderator" contest.
I know which horse to back. We could have a side contest on "Most Consistently Smug and Condescending." |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:56:39 PM EDT
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Well, I mean, if we'd just thrown them all in the ovens then, then we would have stopped having problems, and the capitol riot wouldnt have happened.... so I'm going to have to say they were the ones that were more right here.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:58:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:59:56 PM EDT
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One led to the other, OP. Which is why you’re wrong.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:00:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We should have a "Dumbest Moderator" contest. I know which horse to back. We could have a side contest on "Most Consistently Smug and Condescending." OP is German IIRC. That’s their thing. Don’t take it personally. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:02:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shhhh. Some folks here don't like it when point out that their position would condemn the people that founded this country. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/371244/thatwasdifferent-1574084.gif But it's not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd have to give a fuck about those people in order for their opinion of me to hold any water. Besides, you should expect to be labeled "terrorist," "seditionist," "outlaw," "traitor," or whatever other term you choose if you go against the grain. Look at the founding of this country, all the redcoats and loyalists considered the Founders and those who supported independence as traitors to the crown, and they were dealt with accordingly. Same thing occurred going the other direction too, those who wanted independence considered the redcoats and loyalists opposition that needed to be overtaken, and violently, if necessary. Realistically, both sides (the "lawful" and those "doing the needful," and I put it in quotations because they are not always the same, or mutually exclusive) should expect to be violently resisted by the opposition should they push too far. The fact that people are shocked the police fought back against citizens invading the Capitol makes me laugh just as much as the Congressmen & women running for their lives in terror; the only question there is to ask of either outraged party is "what the fuck did you guys think would happen?" I'm the only one I know that is apparently both shocked the people who engaged in the smidge of violence at the Capitol weren't more violent, and that the police were also not more violent in attempting to repel them. Shhhh. Some folks here don't like it when point out that their position would condemn the people that founded this country. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/371244/thatwasdifferent-1574084.gif But it's not.  I can smell the ignorant smugness of your post from here. Comparing an ignorant rabid mob (that some here still want to blame on Leftist plants, as if we still can't come to grips with it) to the deliberate actions of colonial legislatures and established pillars of colonial society, just because you see yourself as aligned with that mob, is wishful thinking, not historical thinking Hey guys, I'm not a Q-anon fucktard! I'm a spiritual heir of George fucking Washington himself! |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:03:11 PM EDT
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Agreed OP , before last week Dems never wanted to kill conservatives , or silence them , it's just after the antifa UCs busted into the capit......wait a second , it's almost like some kind of ......of....an untrue banner thingy .
You're too naive . |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:05:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Like I care what the Dr. from Flash Gordon has to say about it.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:05:42 PM EDT
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50-100 "conservatives"
vs 100% BLM/Antifa LMAO GD Much sameness. JFC |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:06:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What consequences did leftists face as a group for their many many instances of violent and unlawful behavior? What consequences are right leaning folks going to face for a single, less violent act? The truth is, the political left has enjoyed a near monopoly on political violence in our lifetimes. The right has allowed that to happen, and we will all have to deal with the consequences. How does one impose consequences on a group of people who are simply grouped together by virtue of being leftists? This post highlights the whole issue. I believe it’s immoral to impose group guilt. This is actually the tool of the left when they argue for systematic racism. It’s a shortcut to proof of guilt. They want to shortcut due process, so they begin with premise that presumes guilt of the group. Then the only proof required prior to punishment is simply membership in the group. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:06:17 PM EDT
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The left doesn't give a shit how you felt about BLM and Antifa. Not pushing back just emboldens them.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:07:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well 2021 is off to an interesting start. I agree with B_A. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Anyone who maintains principles and standards in an era of extremists will be deemed a traitor or worse at one time or another. Just look at the the crowd turned in so many commentators who criticize the violence last summer and were consistent with their criticism of the violence earlier this month. The majority of people who claim to have an issue with a given tactic or method, only really have an issue with the political view that is is attempting to advance. They will embrace those same tactics and methods they second they see an opportunity to advance their own interests. Well 2021 is off to an interesting start. I agree with B_A. I'm surprised you could make sense out of that with the atrocious typos. Fixed now. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:08:27 PM EDT
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Lol. Sure, you THINK you were.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:08:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does one impose consequences on a group of people who are simply grouped together by virtue of being leftists? This post highlights the whole issue. I believe it’s immoral to impose group guilt. This is actually the tool of the left when they argue for systematic racism. It’s a shortcut to proof of guilt. They want to shortcut due process, so they begin with premise that presumes guilt of the group. Then the only proof required prior to punishment is simply membership in the group. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What consequences did leftists face as a group for their many many instances of violent and unlawful behavior? What consequences are right leaning folks going to face for a single, less violent act? The truth is, the political left has enjoyed a near monopoly on political violence in our lifetimes. The right has allowed that to happen, and we will all have to deal with the consequences. How does one impose consequences on a group of people who are simply grouped together by virtue of being leftists? This post highlights the whole issue. I believe it’s immoral to impose group guilt. This is actually the tool of the left when they argue for systematic racism. It’s a shortcut to proof of guilt. They want to shortcut due process, so they begin with premise that presumes guilt of the group. Then the only proof required prior to punishment is simply membership in the group. They’re going to sure as hell find a way to punish all of us for the DC thing, so there’s that.... The real key issue is that only one side in this fight is being constrained by any rules, and that’s us. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:09:07 PM EDT
[#17]
Who gives a fuck?
Do you think they'd be ok with us if this never happened? Fuck them. There is no appeasing the left. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:09:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who gives a fuck? Do you think they'd be ok with us if this never happened? Fuck them. There is no appeasing the left. I like the cut of your jib. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:14:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Last summer, I got into several heated debates about the ongoing riots. There were some who stridently argued that ALL people involved in the BLM-type riots were commies, they all should know better, and therefore they were ALL guilty and deserving of the highest punishment, which included throwing them into ovens as one person claimed. I pointed out that using that standard, "our" side could be in real trouble and that I prefer to judge people individually for what they had or hadn't done, not by guilt by association. I was criticized by quite a few, and called a "commie" by several. Now, after the Capitol riots of last week, I wonder how you feel now that the shoe is on the other foot. How many lefties are condemning the entirety of conservatism by the actions of a few misguided QAnons and MAGA types? Are we all Nazis? Should we have known better than to associate with conservatism? Should WE be thrown into ovens? I maintain my original position: Judge each person according to their merit, not necessarily by their association. That is all...  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:14:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Last summer, I got into several heated debates about the ongoing riots. There were some who stridently argued that ALL people involved in the BLM-type riots were commies, they all should know better, and therefore they were ALL guilty and deserving of the highest punishment, which included throwing them into ovens as one person claimed. I pointed out that using that standard, "our" side could be in real trouble and that I prefer to judge people individually for what they had or hadn't done, not by guilt by association. I was criticized by quite a few, and called a "commie" by several. Now, after the Capitol riots of last week, I wonder how you feel now that the shoe is on the other foot. How many lefties are condemning the entirety of conservatism by the actions of a few misguided QAnons and MAGA types? Are we all Nazis? Should we have known better than to associate with conservatism? Should WE be thrown into ovens? I maintain my original position: Judge each person according to their merit, not necessarily by their association. That is all... |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:17:19 PM EDT
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Wank thread
You're still wrong OP because you're following the same loser logic most conservatives, the GOP, and the right adhere too. That rhetoric is dead and dusted. Get with the time. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:17:26 PM EDT
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Quoted: Last summer, I got into several heated debates about the ongoing riots. There were some who stridently argued that ALL people involved in the BLM-type riots were commies, they all should know better, and therefore they were ALL guilty and deserving of the highest punishment, which included throwing them into ovens as one person claimed. I pointed out that using that standard, "our" side could be in real trouble and that I prefer to judge people individually for what they had or hadn't done, not by guilt by association. I was criticized by quite a few, and called a "commie" by several. Now, after the Capitol riots of last week, I wonder how you feel now that the shoe is on the other foot. How many lefties are condemning the entirety of conservatism by the actions of a few misguided QAnons and MAGA types? Are we all Nazis? Should we have known better than to associate with conservatism? Should WE be thrown into ovens? I maintain my original position: Judge each person according to their merit, not necessarily by their association. That is all... Hahahahahahahah, You Sir, are a legend in your own mind. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:17:39 PM EDT
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People wrongly assumed the media and government would treat everyone the same.
Over the summer they were peaceful protestors, on Jan 6 they were insurrectionist, domestic terrorists and white nationalists. Takeaway is if you're on the right don't half ass it and have a plan. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:19:41 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I care what the Dr. from Flash Gordon has to say about it. Wrong one........ Zarkhov is the Dr. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:21:11 PM EDT
[#25]
OP saves his farts in jars for later use.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:21:30 PM EDT
[#26]
2012 years later, Western Civilization is still paying for its loss at Tuetoburg Forest, in ways both big and small.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:23:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:25:21 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol You can't just waltz into GD with common sense. It doesn't fucking work that way. This!!!! Bringing LOCIC, REASON, SENSE into G.D. is like wearing Filet Minion suit in a Tiger Cage... |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:27:03 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Q predicted that you would predict this. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:27:58 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This!!!! Bringing LOCIC, REASON, SENSE into G.D. is like wearing Filet Minion suit in a Tiger Cage... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol You can't just waltz into GD with common sense. It doesn't fucking work that way. This!!!! Bringing LOCIC, REASON, SENSE into G.D. is like wearing Filet Minion suit in a Tiger Cage... Logic, reason, sense, etc., would dictate that the Left has wanted to kill all of us LONG before the Capitol break in. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:28:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol Logic and reason have no power over me Nor GD. Or any gov't bureaucracy, for that matter. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:31:40 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This!!!! Bringing LOCIC, REASON, SENSE into G.D. is like wearing Filet Minion suit in a Tiger Cage... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol You can't just waltz into GD with common sense. It doesn't fucking work that way. This!!!! Bringing LOCIC, REASON, SENSE into G.D. is like wearing Filet Minion suit in a Tiger Cage... Logic, reason, sense also have almost no bearing on the cultural and political outcomes. Have you paid any attention during 2020 at all? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:32:33 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We should have a "Dumbest Moderator" contest. I know which horse to back. We could have a side contest on "Most Consistently Smug and Condescending." 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:34:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Meh, lawlessness begets lawlessness.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:34:36 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Logic, reason, sense, etc., would dictate that the Left has wanted to kill all of us LONG before the Capitol break in. ^this. If BLM and Antifa had been absent and the protestors had spoke out against police abuse, waving their signs. It would have just been a blurb on the news and most would not have said much about it. To equate the 1/6 fiasco with the ongoing cancel culture and Marxist insurrection is asinine. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:34:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: Last summer, I got into several heated debates about the ongoing riots. There were some who stridently argued that ALL people involved in the BLM-type riots were commies, they all should know better, and therefore they were ALL guilty and deserving of the highest punishment, which included throwing them into ovens as one person claimed. I pointed out that using that standard, "our" side could be in real trouble and that I prefer to judge people individually for what they had or hadn't done, not by guilt by association. I was criticized by quite a few, and called a "commie" by several. Now, after the Capitol riots of last week, I wonder how you feel now that the shoe is on the other foot. How many lefties are condemning the entirety of conservatism by the actions of a few misguided QAnons and MAGA types? Are we all Nazis? Should we have known better than to associate with conservatism? Should WE be thrown into ovens? I maintain my original position: Judge each person according to their merit, not necessarily by their association. That is all... |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:35:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: Now, after the Capitol riots of last week, I wonder how you feel now that the shoe is on the other foot. How many lefties are condemning the entirety of conservatism by the actions of a few misguided QAnons and MAGA types? Did you miss the part where the initial breach was BLM/Antifa guys accompanied by a CNN producer and camera crew, all in disguise, after 3+ weeks of warning that that crowd was going to do exactly that? They're going to condemn the entirety of conservatism no matter what happens; this was just a manufactured excuse. Also, fuck commies. Throw the book at them because they're commies; I don't much give a shit about the details, and give zero fucks about anyone whining about having a single standard. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:35:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Anyone who deals in absolutes is generally wrong.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:36:13 PM EDT
[#39]
That's real retarded, sir.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:36:26 PM EDT
[#40]
OP CAN'T be that naive. I refuse to believe it. I choose to believe that this is a parody troll thread.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:37:39 PM EDT
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I agree. It's collective behavior. Same thing that causes people to eat tide pods and do other stupid shit. From the outside it's easy to call these people dumb but really it's just people doing what they've always done. See "Asch effect". There are people who understand this and can use it to influence behaviors of large groups of people.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:40:37 PM EDT
[#42]
Meh. The leftard extremists have been calling for our punishment/death for our associations and beliefs for a very long time. The left has been condemning the entirety of consveratism since the 60's. Suddenly I'm supposed to care about that because you said so?
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:40:58 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 2012 years later, Western Civilization is still paying for its loss at Tuetoburg Forest, in ways both big and small. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:46:44 PM EDT
[#44]
if it ever happens again i would go with this if i were you.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:47:45 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP CAN'T be that naive. I refuse to believe it. I choose to believe that this is a parody troll thread. No, this is your standard principled conservative talking |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:48:56 PM EDT
[#46]
Lol
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:52:17 PM EDT
[#47]
Difference is the vast majority of BLM is commie. They even stated on their web page they are a marxist organization.
The vast majority of Trumpers are freedom lovers. Life is way easier when you come to terms with knowing which side is going to put you in a ditch with a bullet to the head. Which side is it that talks of taking kids away from their parents, sending folks off to reeducation camps, genocide, firing squads, etc? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:53:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: Last summer, I got into several heated debates about the ongoing riots. There were some who stridently argued that ALL people involved in the BLM-type riots were commies, they all should know better, and therefore they were ALL guilty and deserving of the highest punishment, which included throwing them into ovens as one person claimed. I pointed out that using that standard, "our" side could be in real trouble and that I prefer to judge people individually for what they had or hadn't done, not by guilt by association. I was criticized by quite a few, and called a "commie" by several. Now, after the Capitol riots of last week, I wonder how you feel now that the shoe is on the other foot. How many lefties are condemning the entirety of conservatism by the actions of a few misguided QAnons and MAGA types? Are we all Nazis? Should we have known better than to associate with conservatism? Should WE be thrown into ovens? I maintain my original position: Judge each person according to their merit, not necessarily by their association. That is all... |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:54:38 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, this is your standard principled conservative talking Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: OP CAN'T be that naive. I refuse to believe it. I choose to believe that this is a parody troll thread. No, this is your standard principled conservative talking "Muh principles" will be chiseled on their tombstones. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:56:02 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted: Last summer, I got into several heated debates about the ongoing riots. There were some who stridently argued that ALL people involved in the BLM-type riots were commies, they all should know better, and therefore they were ALL guilty and deserving of the highest punishment, which included throwing them into ovens as one person claimed. I pointed out that using that standard, "our" side could be in real trouble and that I prefer to judge people individually for what they had or hadn't done, not by guilt by association. I was criticized by quite a few, and called a "commie" by several. Now, after the Capitol riots of last week, I wonder how you feel now that the shoe is on the other foot. How many lefties are condemning the entirety of conservatism by the actions of a few misguided QAnons and MAGA types? Are we all Nazis? Should we have known better than to associate with conservatism? Should WE be thrown into ovens? I maintain my original position: Judge each person according to their merit, not necessarily by their association. That is all... They were a few sharks swimming in an ocean of peaceful protesters. |
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