Unfortunately this.

Turn off the TV.

History will say otherwise. You'll miss him in 8 years.

The Capitol was sacked? You are a propagandist and a liar. It’s that simple. Pick up a history book and learn what the term sack means. You used it intentionally. You are the enemy.

Don’t play me like you know better. I already “miss” that he’s not getting a second term and we’re in for a world of shit with Xiden... any patriotic American worth his/her/their salt will tell you that.

He left his most vocal supporters twisting in the wind, who are now being picked off by the Feds for attending his rally, and he’s gone quiet about it. Fuck him.

DJT has a long record of screwing his supporters, investors, and creditors, and he's staying true to form.

They won't.

They love the nightly news and are very sensitive to what the propagandist say about "principled conservatives".

I like Trump.


He went against the Swamp and the Swamp won.
He exposed them all.

DNC and GOP are not on our side

Of course they are. Not only are they now paying import tariffs under Trumps Mexico-Canada-USA Trade Compact, they are paying for the 23,000 deployed military troops patrolling their side of the border.

Where do you guys get this shit? It seems like you only regurgitate some false narrative you've heard somewhere...and you don't/won't/or can't do your own fact checking.

Good.

Then he's the best that we could have hoped for and accomplished quite a bit despite the condition our culture and body politic is in.

FPNI!  We've had four years of Trump is the devil shoved up our collective asses.

Stop trying to convert me. He succeeded at being “Not Hillary”.

Then you were not watching on election night. The fraud was blatant and in your face.

Much truth and my opinion as well, power isn’t peaceful or friendly. There’s nothing more precious. He played like a game and used us. Then when it was obvious we as a people had been fucked and were finally ready to do something to get it back on track he bails.

The same two hundred or so never_Trumpers have been screeching since 2016 on this site.

normal communists, never trumpers, shills and ass lickers.  Have always been here, just feeling their oats right now.

Will there ever be an "ideal" candidate?

Remember how banal and retarded the political discourse became in 2016? Pepperidge Farms remembers. It was Idiocracy IRL.

The arguments AlwaysTrumpers made were barely a step above "Trump's got electrolytes... He's got what voters crave". Then you had those two Trump supporters with white framed glasses, flame shirts, and missing teeth confront Ted Cruz about how his shit's all fucked up and he talks like a fag. Also he's a serial killer liar, and Rand Paul is short.

Well, we figuratively put those two guys in the driver's seat with predictable results


I was neither a NeverTrumper or AlwaysTrumper, but the NeverTrumpers ended up being 100% right. We didn't win so much we got tired of winning. We lost. We lost harder than any conservative has ever lost.

Trump is the biggest conservative failure of all time. Probably worse than Herbert Hoover.

You know you exaggerate. We all knew Trump was not a conservative but a populist. There was no way a populist would give conservatives everything we wanted. In the primary I voted for Cruz. many did, just not enough. Despite his contrarian reputation for standing against the RINOs many still regarded him an insider. They wanted an outsider. Many on GD expressed that attitude. They even expressed the knowledge Trump would not agree with them on every issue but preferred an outsider despite the warts. We all knew Trump has that typical NYC chip on the shoulder abrasive attitude. They got their way. Now come the General election there were only 2 realistic choices. To hell with the 3rd party choices, none of them were serious candidates. They were just attention whores. That left Trump and Hillary. Did you want JBT Hillary or abrasive, Populist Trump" The condescending criminal control freak Hillary was out of the question. I still have my Deplorable T-shirt to remind everyone just what she thought of "we the people". (The Democrat Party hasn't changed except for the worse since.) That left Trump, warts and all. We all said back then if we got a conservative Supreme Court out of it, we would be satisfied. Have you forgotten?  Many, many here posted that very sentiment and you know it.

Your "god-emperor" rhetoric is over the top for sure and cheap rhetoric at that. If we were so dissatisfied why didn't someone run against Trump in the primary? Because no one wanted the job? Because no one wanted to stick their ass out to do battle with Pelosi and the other Marxist shit birds? Maybe it was because being a bunch of RINOs they were willing to sell out Trump because they were part of the swamp? Where were your so called god-worshipers in the 2018 election when instead of wanting Trump to get things done we wanted, we let the Democrats win the House. That guaranteed Trump never got another major thing done. You going to blame his "god-worshipers" for that too?

Admit it, there are a shit ton of RINOS who routinely sell us out, act like speakeasies, and stab us in the back. Right now they are willing to sell out freedom to save their own asses. They are not willing to stand tall and oppose the vilification of their constituents who just want honest elections and otherwise let the chips fall where they may. The Democrats and even some RINOs have opposed the right to free, transparent and lawful elections at every turn. If they believed in transparency, lawful elections why did they refuse to allow access to prove they were clean? That is not being on the side of freedom.

If you are just pointing out the obvious then these facts should have been left out.

Succeeded very well at not being Hillary.

Hillary wants him dead.

More people get their news from social media than nightly news.  Trump had multiple ways of getting his message out without relying on the MSM.  How the media reports on him has nothing to do with how he worded his statements or his constant spitefulness against everyone he didn't like.  

Our Trade deficit is at an all-time high now too... And China's trade surplus is at an all time high.

The swamp has more power than ever.

He's a failure.

Name a President that wasn't a piece of shit who grew State power and further entrenched the ruling class since 1920 then.

I don't hate the guy at all. Repeating what I have seen others posting here and on the formerly fanatical chans:

* Guns. In 2016 Trump ran on a gun rights platform. He then quickly stabbed gun owners in the back, laughed at them, then had the audacity to run in 2020 talking about the 2d amendment. It was a part of every stump speech, but all it did was remind gun owners what a traitor he was on this issue.

* Israel / Jews. Instead of Maga, former fanatic Trump supporters on the chans starting calling our movement MIGA. Many on the right are not fans of Israel or the Jews. Internationally, they see it as just more of the Neocon / Neolib globalist bullshit, and domestically they fail to see how fetishizing post modern Marxists could be anything but awful.

* Cash for Black People! What in the fuck was he thinking with this?! While every small business in the country was dying, Trump is promising 600 billion or whatever as payoffs exclusively to black businesses. He can fuck right off for that alone.

* Election Fraud.  Everyone knew when and where these crimes would take place. Trump knew the day, the hours, and the fucking street addresses. Yet him and his team completely failed to do anything to either mitigate or document the crimes that we all knew would happen. It was incompetence on a level that is utterly astonishing. If it weren't our votes being stolen I would personally say that the guy deserves to fucking lose after failing that badly.

* BOMBSHELL! The seemingly daily "stay tuned for the big reveal!" bullshit Trump and his clown team have pulled since the election has many people completely disgusted. And his team looks borderline negligent. This might be excusable, but it's MY vote that these jackasses are supposed to be guarding, and they look like the Three fucking Stooges.

* The Protest Betrayal. Trump couldn't wait to throw his supporters under the bus following the Jan 6th protests. These Patriots went to Washington to speak truth to power, to stand up for our right to fair and honest elections, and Trump stabbed them in the back. He looked pretty weak leading up to the 6th, and he looks like a complete craven coward ever since. I understand that his choice was not easy, I understand deciding to leave the pin in the grenade, but I cannot understand or forgive abandoning the people he led to Washington for his rally.

SUMMARY: I don't care to read how you disagree with every point. I don't necessarily agree with these points myself. I am merely repeating a condensed version of what I have seen other people say.

I think a lot of people feel that he would have won if he wasn't such a petulant asshole.  I think he's our best president since Reagan, but he shot himself in the foot. We needed him another 4 years and he couldn't control himself for one fucking debate.  Fraud or not he would have won if he wasn't such a miserable person.

Yep. He was "Not Hillary" and had good SC picks.

He failed miserably at everything else.

I don't hate him, look back through all of my posts and you will see that.  What I am is disappointed, two years of owning the senate and congress, we got a tax cut.  He had zero game when it came to the swamp, he made or was advised to make horrible choices for multiple positions.  He's a tv guy, he gets PR so his COVID response was pants hand stupid.  Fauci, the scarf chick and his weird mumbling during the "conferences" cost us.  Why not hire a pretty talking head, deliver a well rehearsed weekly updated from him personally from his desk?  Why not a joint task force with the shitbirds dems to pin them into cooperation for the "common good".  

Then there is the election, he knew or thought he knew there was going to be cheating, why not setup surveillance/operatives in key districts like Philly, Detroit, Atlanta?  Then when the cheating happened why not use surrogates, why not stay above the fray and look presidential?  

Ohe well would have, could have, should have I guess.

This too. On some very key issues he failed. It was always "I'll sign this pork ridden budget but never again" every year.

Now Republicans are complaining they didn't get a $2k check .

Social media?

The same ones censoring free speech now?

So if they got their news from social media, they read mostly MSM propaganda and believed it.

He only had one way to get his message out effectively. His Twitter account, which was attacked endlessly and censored heavily before they banned it entirely.

Your post has no point, so OK.

FWIW I think the election was stolen but nobody wants to stand up and do what it actually takes to prove it.

If he was "nice", you wouldn't like him either.

He failed to get nevertrumpers' love. Thats about it.

There is plenty to criticize Trump for, some take it to the extreme. The whole bumpstock decision really pissed off a lot of people in our community. Some of them went tunnel vision and now he was completely worthless and a piece of shit.

People want someone to blame, they want and object for their anger; Trump fits the bill for that in some regards. The passion involved in our community makes it easy to constantly shit talk him(deservedly) on the Bump Stock issue without acknowledging or marginalizing the things he accomplished.

That combined with the absolute minimal reporting of anything remotely good he did gets us here.

I think we're all a bit depressed and disappointed in the outcome. I'm getting black-pilled myself I believe. If he's not retaining office he could at least burn it down and expose the corruption on the way out... He's still got a few days left but it appears he's going out with a whimper.

Arf: fuck China,I hate those assholes
Also Arf: man it fucking sucks that I can’t buy pallets of Norinco ammunition and a stack of cheap ARs that would put PSA out of business



 That’s America in a nutshell and why you can’t do better than Trump or Biden ???????

It's up to us now. He did all he could do. Fought every step of the way. If he fights anymore, he will risk imprisonment for overthrowing the government.

We thought Trump was dangerous -- in a good way—but he wasn’t.

Super bowl. Last play of the game - you score, you win; don’t score, you lose. Ball is on the one yard line, and you have the best running back in the game. Do you go Beast Mode and make it happen with physical force, or do you get cute and try to throw?

People hated that call. And they hated the result, which will always be haunted by, “What if?”

On one hand, we’ve lost a lot by Trump not using the tools he had at his disposal to correct this situation before it got out of control. On the other hand, we may now be “safer” as nation in the same way businesses were “safer” when under the protection of the mob, and not city police. Yes, the criminal now watching over us will likely eventually lead us to our peril, but the “upstanding force of good” that was watching over us before  would have also likely led us to peril out of lack of logistic ability and vigor. Either way, we were destined to be screwed; a forsaken people. Now we know it’s every man for himself as we hope for some type of a miracle.

Oh please. The Magabots made sure we all knew about it. “The sun came out today, MAGA!”, “I saw a trump bumper sticker, that’s MY PRESIDENT!”

At it’s peak it was a neo-religious fervor.

People always bash the guy who is leaving. He no longer is perceived to have the power he once had, and the criticism flows.

You still don't get it.

I dont hate him, I just dont worship him. I voted for him.

We have bigger problems than sleepy joe.
Namely private company censorship and the house and congress.

Impeachment is bullshit that's for sure.  Hes almost out.  

Hmm, I think the bashing started more than 4 years ago before Trump was even in the White House.  This isn't something that's just started.

You lost me at "sudden" OP.

I noticed it too....pretty fucking pathetic, actually.



Unfortunately, that probably accounts for 87% of it.

For me, it's because he blew his reelection.

I don't subscribe to the actual false narrative of stolen election.

This loss is on him. I blame him.

I think it's a mental thing with some folks.  They are starting to realize Xiden is happening and part of accepting that is mentally separating from Trump.  I hope Trump pulls something.

I don't give a fuck, but his most recent speech stunk so bad of fear and defeat it was embarrassing. Why don't you say for the 100th time "No violence"? Let's blather on about Covid, again. He had balls, but now they stole those from him too.

You know you can criticize a person and not hate them, right?

Conversely you can like a guy and not worship them.

Trump is a politician and a person. Neither are going to live up to all of their campaign promises or all of the things they promise in office.

It seems so simple, doesn’t it?

The “conservative brand” isn’t conservative, they are the party of compromise.