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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:04:03 AM EDT
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A marine mammal that knows a hell of a lot more about sonar than you do.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:16:46 AM EDT
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How do you get a crew to want to get off a submarine?
How do you get a crew to want to get off a nuc.... |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:16:59 AM EDT
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Hey, I think somebody just fired a torpedo at us!
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:19:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But they had a swimming pool and a sauna.. I cannot think of a place I would be more scared of being in, than a sauna with some naked Russian sailors. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:31:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But they had a swimming pool and a sauna.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's generally a feature of Soviet technology. But they had a swimming pool and a sauna.. That sauna was a total sausage fest. Perfect for the chiefs to ass-rape the conscripts, like their predecessors did to them. Quoted: Quoted: But they had a swimming pool and a sauna.. I cannot think of a place I would be more scared of being in, than a sauna with some naked Russian sailors. That's a bingo. Kharn |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:34:47 AM EDT
[#6]
Con sonar
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:40:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey, I think somebody just fired a torpedo at us! No shit, Buckwheat. Now get the hell out of here! |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:43:47 AM EDT
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My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on playmate of the month.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:49:06 AM EDT
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Some Things in Here Don't React Well to Bullets
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:59:48 AM EDT
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Page 2, and no "Con, Crazy Ivan!" yet...?
I am disappoint... 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:13:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on playmate of the month.  She's schpectacular!  |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:14:09 AM EDT
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 "Soviet Anthem" The Hunt For Red October |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:18:16 AM EDT
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I saw a good video on them that pointed out that the two main pressure hulls are each essentially the size of a Ohio-class SSBN and that doesn't include the third smaller pressure hull for the command section. The two main hulls also have 100% redundant reactors and screws.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:19:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are those doors for? Two words: The Kraken |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:22:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still can't decide if that's a genius idea, or just fucking crazy. There was a Typhoon that had missile fail during launch, scattering burning solid rocket fuel across the top of the missile bay. The captain dived the sub to put out the fires and was successful, so? There's still one active member of the class (I think it's the first one), used in missile development testing. That Sub Brief posted above goes into a bit of detail on how the Typhoon, at lower power levels, could use Natural Convection to flow water through the reactor without using pumps, making it noticeably quieter, and probably inspiring the "caterpillar drive" of The Hunt For Red October. You can do anything in fiction, but we already had a natural circulation prototype and boat, i.e., S5G and USS Narwhal. Had nothing to do with caterpillar drive. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:27:49 AM EDT
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There is all sorts of materials there that aren't even nuclear which are "touch this or breathes this you 100% get cancer"
Soviets AND Russians used to let engineers and contractors work on these things without telling them about any of the dangers because it is "classified". Thats how my mothers friend died. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:29:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you get a crew to want to get off a submarine? How do you get a crew to want to get off a nuc.... Cool fact about that shaving scene when he says that- If you take a good look at him in the next scene his face is only half shaven! It’s in the book and in the movie it’s done subtly enough to go unnoticed unless you’re looking for it... |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:07:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are big subs for sure, but a lot of that space is flooded. The Typhoon is like two subs bolted together with a few extra compartments in between for torpedoes, control room, and machinery. The missile tubes are actually outside of the pressure hulls and are surrounded by seawater, possibly because they don't react well to bullets? http://www.hisutton.com/images/Typhoon_SSBN2200.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jdyUg3a.jpg The Soviets must have had a prior incident involving a gunfight in the missile tube area and this was their solution. That, or they had instances of missile tube leakage on other subs. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:36:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:41:57 PM EDT
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Ivan lived pretty good under the waves in the Typhoon's
https://russianambience.com/inside-giant-russian-typhoon-class-submarine-tk-17-arkhangelsk/ |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:44:32 PM EDT
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Halsey acted stupidly
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:46:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are those doors for? Haven't you ever seen the game Wack A Mole? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:51:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I cannot think of a place I would be more scared of being in, than a sauna with some naked Russian sailors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But they had a swimming pool and a sauna.. I cannot think of a place I would be more scared of being in, than a sauna with some naked Russian sailors. It's not gay when it's underway. It's only queer at the pier. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:56:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can do anything in fiction, but we already had a natural circulation prototype and boat, i.e., S5G and USS Narwhal. Had nothing to do with caterpillar drive. Yeah, our acoustical superiority over anything Soviet/Russian is startling abd good. The mention of the Typhoon’s NC was presented as the first time it was done in an operational Russian submarine. “Caterpillar” is of course totally fictional, the quieting of NC versus running of pumps was suggested as the fictional inspiration of “caterpillar”. Without knowing, I’m confident that our submarines can use NC at far higher power levels than anyone else’s submarines and that our acoustical advantage remains intact. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:02:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes! I just searched for the link (could not find it on my phone). I remember it well. The boomers were (are) shockingly shoddy and third world compared to any sub produced by the west - especially US, German, and other European subs. As sloppy as they were, I do not dispute the immense destructive power they had. A rumor I heard was: - during the Cold War, our targeting capability was far superior to Russia's ICBMs, so the Russians compensated by using much higher yield nukes on their missiles  Read about it in Soldiers of Reason years ago. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:04:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Soviets must have had a prior incident involving a gunfight in the missile tube area and this was their solution. That, or they had instances of missile tube leakage on other subs. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:07:39 PM EDT
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They lose it yet?
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:18:28 PM EDT
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They bit off way more than they could chew with that monstrosity.
None are in service anymore. They might still have one for experimental purposes, but I doubt it.  Failed To Load Title All those resources that went into making those. Doomed to be scrapped at the end of the Cold War because no one could afford the maintenance Bills. I've heard that the British governments fleet of Cold War era decommissioned nuclear subs are still sitting in a port somewhere because the Brits don't have a nuclear ship decommissioning program. The Russians can pull this off. What's the Limey's excuse? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:19:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I cannot think of a place I would be more scared of being in, than a sauna with some naked Russian sailors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But they had a swimming pool and a sauna.. I cannot think of a place I would be more scared of being in, than a sauna with some naked Russian sailors. Indeed, have you experience in this area...isn't your home country close to the Motherland.. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:21:09 PM EDT
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Fly Big D, Fly..
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:22:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They bit off way more than they could chew with that monstrosity. None are in service anymore. They might still have one for experimental purposes, but I doubt it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WFlQTICSYwAll those resources that went into making those. Doomed to be scrapped at the end of the Cold War because no one could afford the maintenance Bills. I've heard that the British governments fleet of Cold War era decommissioned nuclear subs are still sitting in a port somewhere because the Brits don't have a nuclear ship decommissioning program. The Russians can pull this off. What's the Limey's excuse? That's a sad sight to see. 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:07:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are those doors for? Sunshine |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:09:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, but why would you want to? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What are those doors for? those doors are the problem Could you launch an ICBM horizontally? Yes, but why would you want to? Why not?  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:13:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They bit off way more than they could chew with that monstrosity. None are in service anymore. They might still have one for experimental purposes, but I doubt it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WFlQTICSYwAll those resources that went into making those. Doomed to be scrapped at the end of the Cold War because no one could afford the maintenance Bills. I've heard that the British governments fleet of Cold War era decommissioned nuclear subs are still sitting in a port somewhere because the Brits don't have a nuclear ship decommissioning program. The Russians can pull this off. What's the Limey's excuse? They can barely put surface combatants to sea, you want them to chop up others? Kharn |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:52:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes! I just searched for the link (could not find it on my phone). I remember it well. The boomers were (are) shockingly shoddy and third world compared to any sub produced by the west - especially US, German, and other European subs. As sloppy as they were, I do not dispute the immense destructive power they had. A rumor I heard was: - during the Cold War, our targeting capability was far superior to Russia's ICBMs, so the Russians compensated by using much higher yield nukes on their missiles If remember this correctly, they had a steam sauna and bath on, that had all tile like a normal bath. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:57:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Emergency crew escape hatches for when they catch on fire or start sinking. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What are those doors for? Emergency crew escape hatches for when they catch on fire or start sinking.  |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:05:13 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ivan lived pretty good under the waves in the Typhoon's https://russianambience.com/inside-giant-russian-typhoon-class-submarine-tk-17-arkhangelsk/ |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:43:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can barely put surface combatants to sea, you want them to chop up others? Kharn Yes I do. I want to see every single decommissioned nuclear powered submarine chopped to bits and the reactor compartments put someplace safe for the next few million years. Exception granted for the USS Nautilus. That can remain a museum ship. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:50:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They bit off way more than they could chew with that monstrosity. None are in service anymore. They might still have one for experimental purposes, but I doubt it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WFlQTICSYwAll those resources that went into making those. Doomed to be scrapped at the end of the Cold War because no one could afford the maintenance Bills. I've heard that the British governments fleet of Cold War era decommissioned nuclear subs are still sitting in a port somewhere because the Brits don't have a nuclear ship decommissioning program. The Russians can pull this off. What's the Limey's excuse? I've heard that the British governments fleet of Cold War era decommissioned nuclear subs are still sitting in a port somewhere because the Brits don't have a nuclear ship decommissioning program. The Russians can pull this off. What's the Limey's excuse? They don’t have a gazillion square miles of Siberian wasteland where they can dump it? Edited to quote the relevant part of Hesperus’ post |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I cannot think of a place I would be more scared of being in, than a sauna with some naked Russian sailors. Catching a pickle surprise in the sauna is the least of your problems. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:56:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:57:10 PM EDT
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It wasn't that lightweight stuff either. It was that chunky, industrial-waste puke!
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:06:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What are those doors for? Emergency crew escape hatches for when they catch on fire or start sinking. In the diagram you can see the large escape compartments. Two on each side of the conning tower. Supposed to hold at least 40 sailors. So not entirely BS. If Tom Clancy had known this, Jack Ryan’s ruse wouldn’t have worked. If the radiation leak was that bad, just pop off the escape compartments and wait for some Soviet trawler to pick them up. That’s how Russian sailors got off that nuke submarine - if they wanted to. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:17:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 800 feet underwater, in a metal tube, with two nuclear reactors in one end, hundreds of tons of explosives in the other, 24 solid fueled rockets in the middle, all built and maintained by Russians. Catching a pickle surprise in the sauna is the least of your problems. Awhile ago I had a thread about their Alpha class attack submarines. Someone commented on their torpedo auto loading system probably loading crewmen into the tubes. That was an image that formed in my minds eye entirely too easily.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:18:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:25:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The largest subs ever made at 48000 tons displacement when submerged. A lot of the displacement was just water... a lot of empty space in the design 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:30:20 PM EDT
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Some things in here don't react well to bullets, eh?
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:31:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Awhile ago I had a thread about their Alpha class attack submarines. Someone commented on their torpedo auto loading system probably loading crewmen into the tubes. That was an image that formed in my minds eye entirely too easily. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:33:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's generally a feature of Soviet technology. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They are big subs for sure, but a lot of that space is flooded. The Typhoon is like two subs bolted together with a few extra compartments in between for torpedoes, control room, and machinery. The missile tubes are actually outside of the pressure hulls and are surrounded by seawater, possibly because they don't react well to bullets? http://www.hisutton.com/images/Typhoon_SSBN2200.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jdyUg3a.jpg There was an article a few years ago that showed the interior of a typhoon class and it was quite disappointing compared to the exterior. That's generally a feature of Soviet technology.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:34:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of the displacement was just water... a lot of empty space in the design https://c7.uihere.com/files/164/273/221/typhoon-class-submarine-ohio-class-submarine-nuclear-submarine-ballistic-missile-class.jpg |
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