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Quoted: They can try. I just sold 150 shares, so my last 50 is risk-free to me. I think I'll just hold them forever. What are they going to do, make buy and hold illegal? They owe those shares to somebody, and they have to unwind that. If no-one will sell them the shares, they can't unwind it. The government can't "fix this" without completely undermining the legitimacy of the entire financial system. Game over. View Quote Give them time. All they need to do is call the ATF and say the words Machine Gun and Bump Stock and the boys will figure out a way to make it illegal and you have to turn it in. NEVER say never....lol (but you’re right) |
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View Quote CNN would be there to film you being lined up against the wall and executed by the elites. |
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Hmm, considering going long on some puts, but the premiums are still higher than I'd like... I'm not convinced it's ready to come back down to earth yet, this could stale mate for some time...
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It's unwound a bit but not sane at all still. TD and CS locking down trading is going to be interesting if people are unable to unload their shares.
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View Quote I've followed wsb for a while now. They are not very big fans of Trump. |
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Quoted: I've followed wsb for a while now. They are not very big fans of Trump. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: I've followed wsb for a while now. They are not very big fans of Trump. they hate everyone. but Papa Musk. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I've followed wsb for a while now. They are not very big fans of Trump. they hate everyone. but Papa Musk. The media is now calling them the "Reddit Raiders" |
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Well, I just bought into Nokia with $500.
and BBY for $100, BB for $100, GME for $100 and AMC for $100. Got $100 left to play with... |
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Is there a Reddit thread to learn just wtf is going on here? I’m lost
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Quoted: Is there a Reddit thread to learn just wtf is going on here? I’m lost View Quote https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/ |
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Quoted: TLDR: hedgefunds short stock, rocket bros drive stock up, hedgefunds must buy stock to cover short, stonks go up further much sadness and lulz probable illegal shit View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Is there a Reddit thread to learn just wtf is going on here? I’m lost TLDR: hedgefunds short stock, rocket bros drive stock up, hedgefunds must buy stock to cover short, stonks go up further much sadness and lulz probable illegal shit |
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Quoted: Quoted: How about a link to the actual Tweet? Yeah, I searched his Twitter and couldn't find it. Thank you for the verification. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is there a Reddit thread to learn just wtf is going on here? I’m lost TLDR: hedgefunds short stock, rocket bros drive stock up, hedgefunds must buy stock to cover short, stonks go up further much sadness and lulz probable illegal shit I don't get why anything about that should be illegal other than hedge funds taking excessive unmitigated risk. It's on them, not retail speculators. |
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Quoted: Not really any others out there which have the same systemic issues. GME is a once-in-a-decade screwup for Wall Street. Problem is, if they freeze GME here, the options contracts are a massive wild card. It's those options sitting around that have the potential to create some real fireworks. They're floating the "30 day freeze" and other such nonsense because on Friday, if the price stays high, a lot of very powerful people and institutions are forced to realize a very large loss. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just got out at $313, but I'm wondering if I should get back in or not. I mostly bought in to stick it to the man, but it appears the man won't have it stuck to. MA SoS just called for a 30 day pause on GME trading. Looks like Wallstreet is calling in all their favors. This won't work out well for them IMO. Reddit will focus on another stock and keep going. Not really any others out there which have the same systemic issues. GME is a once-in-a-decade screwup for Wall Street. Problem is, if they freeze GME here, the options contracts are a massive wild card. It's those options sitting around that have the potential to create some real fireworks. They're floating the "30 day freeze" and other such nonsense because on Friday, if the price stays high, a lot of very powerful people and institutions are forced to realize a very large loss. There are a few more...the media is starting to take notice. |
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Quoted: I don't get why anything about that should be illegal other than hedge funds taking excessive unmitigated risk. It's on them, not retail speculators. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is there a Reddit thread to learn just wtf is going on here? I’m lost TLDR: hedgefunds short stock, rocket bros drive stock up, hedgefunds must buy stock to cover short, stonks go up further much sadness and lulz probable illegal shit I don't get why anything about that should be illegal other than hedge funds taking excessive unmitigated risk. It's on them, not retail speculators. |
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Quoted: I don't get why anything about that should be illegal other than hedge funds taking excessive unmitigated risk. It's on them, not retail speculators. View Quote I'm not SEC but assuming they aren't still working on sending Edward to prison because he forgot to record a lunch with Jones, they probably have something that covers this. Edit: Also maybe reddit will get sued into oblivion and have to shut down. |
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Did a lil rough math. I'd say Citadel is french-fucked on this one.
They'd need to have bought somewhere between 20-80m shares of GME to hedge their options book today. Only 80m shares changed hands in total. This is going to get really interesting. If GME isn't way down by 4PM on Friday, Citadel could blow up. |
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I wish I knew more about investing so I could get in on this. [sad panda]
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Bought BB $40 2/26/21 calls
Was up as much as 50% Up 25% at the close |
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EFFFFFF. I was waiting for a market downturn to make silver cheap and buy some up.
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Quoted: Did a lil rough math. I'd say Citadel is french-fucked on this one. They'd need to have bought somewhere between 20-80m shares of GME to hedge their options book today. Only 80m shares changed hands in total. This is going to get really interesting. If GME isn't way down by 4PM on Friday, Citadel could blow up. View Quote This is quite possibly the dumbest move ever made by Wall Street. It's bad for them. And every single day it gets worse. Life lessons. Insatiable greed. David vs. Goliath. Memes. There's a movie here. Power to the Players |
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Quoted: I'm not SEC but assuming they aren't still working on sending Edward to prison because he forgot to record a lunch with Jones, they probably have something that covers this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I don't get why anything about that should be illegal other than hedge funds taking excessive unmitigated risk. It's on them, not retail speculators. I'm not SEC but assuming they aren't still working on sending Edward to prison because he forgot to record a lunch with Jones, they probably have something that covers this. Which is complete B*llSh*t....I lost a shitload of money today in the market no one is going to cover me. These guys deserve what they get. I'm curious how much of the market sell off is due to them selling other assets to cover their margin and short positions. |
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Quoted: Poor people are making money? Omg ?? where are the regulators??? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They aren't going to learn a lesson. They are going to change the rules. Poor people are making money? Omg ?? where are the regulators??? Working hard to stop it, that's where they are. "Wall Street vs Main Street", except that Wall Street gets to game the rules. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gamestop-hot/wall-street-vs-main-street-fight-quashes-hedge-funds-as-gamestop-keeps-rallying-idUSKBN29W131 Wall Street vs Main Street fight quashes hedge funds as GameStop keeps rallying (Reuters) - Retail traders scored against professionals on Wednesday as hedge funds Citron and Melvin retreated with heavy losses on short positions in GameStop in the week-long battle between Wall Street and Main Street, with more calling for scrutiny of anonymous stock trading posts on social media. Funds sold long positions in stocks to pay for the losses, which sparked a 1% slide in Wall Street’s main indexes. The battle started when famed short seller Andrew Left of Citron Capital bet against GameStop and was met with a barrage of retail traders betting the other way. The short squeeze has been so sharp that funds were selling long positions in stocks to pay for the losses [.N] “Because the rules are changing, people don’t like that,” technology investor Chamath Palihapitiya told CNBC. “We are moving to a world where ordinary folk have the same access as professionals and can come to the same conclusion or maybe the opposite. The solution is more transparency on the institutional side not less access for retail.” Citron has been a target for some on Reddit’s “WallStreetbets” thread, where posts helped drive gains for several niche stocks. Left said in a video post that Citron abandoned its bet against GameStop shares after the video game retailer’s value soared almost tenfold in a fortnight. “I have respect for the market,” Left said in the post. Melvin Capital Management closed out its short position in GameStop on Tuesday after taking a huge loss. The Goldman Hedge Industry VIP ETF, which tracks hedge funds’ most popular stocks, has fallen for five straight sessions, its longest losing streak since February 2020. Commentators and lawyers called for scrutiny of the moves. Nasdaq chief Adena Friedman said exchanges and regulators should watch whether anonymous social media posts could be driving “pump and dump” schemes. “If we see a significant rise in the chatter on social media … and we also match that up against unusual trading activity, we will potentially halt that stock to allow ourselves to investigate the situation,” Friedman said on CNBC. Friedman added that exchanges and regulators should investigate if they suspect “that there may be some manipulation.” The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) declined to comment. GameStop and AMC are both listed on the New York Stock Exchange. The White House and U.S. Treasury Department are monitoring the situation, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said. Reddit has not been contacted by authorities over stock surges driven by a message board on the platform, a spokeswoman said. Commentators have questioned moves in several Reddit-hyped stocks. Some on Wall Street wonder share prices across the market have soared into bubble territory. GameStop’s stock has surged nearly 700% in two weeks, lifting the struggling retailer’s market value from $1.24 billion to more than $10 billion. BlackBerry Ltd soared 185% on Tuesday, on course for its biggest monthly gain ever. GameStop surged another 113% to $316.08 on Wednesday and AMC's stock was up 285% to $19.07, while the broader stock market .SPX fell 1.7%. TD Ameritrade limited trading in GameStop and others, CNBC reported. Along with Finnish technology firm Nokia Oyj , the companies were among the most heavily traded, with Reddit threads humming with chatter about the stocks. Nokia said on Wednesday it was not aware of any reason for the continuing surge in its share price. Such inflated stocks will eventually come back to their fair value, said Ryan Detrick, senior market strategist at LPL Financial in Charlotte, North Carolina. “It does have a David and Goliath feel where the Reddit crowd is taking on the most shorted stocks by the largest hedge funds in the world and winning.” BlackRock Inc, the world’s largest asset manager, could have made gains of about $2.4 billion on its investment in GameStop. Its share holdings amounted to roughly a 13% stake as of Dec. 31, 2020, a regulatory filing showed. “It’s a dangerous game to play from both sides of the spectrum, whether you’re long or short,” said Matthew Keator, managing partner in wealth management firm the Keator Group in Lenox, Massachusetts. “You get close enough to the fire you’re going to get burned ... it won’t matter what social media is cheering the stock on.” According to research firm S3 Partners, total short interest in GameStop was $10.6 billion as of Wednesday. In the last seven days the short has increased by $117 million, or 1.1%, as the stock price surged. Year-to-date, GameStop shorts have lost $19.15 billion, including $9.85 billion on Wednesday at a $285 share price, according to Ihor Dusaniwsky, S3’s managing director of predictive analytics. “These large mark-to-market losses will be squeezing many existing shorts out of their positions, but we are still seeing new short sellers taking their place as they look to short at the top and ride a windfall of profits,” he said. REVENGE OF ‘DUMB MONEY’ Long dismissed as “dumb money,” retail traders have made stocks move in ways that defy fundamental analysis. Global bets worth billions of dollars could be at risk as amateurs challenge the bearish positions of influential funds. On GameStop, the retail investor army has gone toe-to-toe with institutional short-sellers, a traditional area for hedge funds. The 20 small-cap Russell 2000 index companies with the biggest bearish bets against them have risen 60% on average so far this year, easily outperforming the market, a Reuters analysis of Refinitiv data shows. Europe’s most-shorted stocks also saw big price swings on Wednesday. Experts are debating whether these massive share moves should be considered ominous signs for the market. Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian said the rise of retail investors is healthy. “That’s the sentiment, the public doing what they feel has been done to them by institutions,” Ohanian said in a tweet on Wednesday. “I know they’re all ‘random people on the internet’ but there’s a lot more empathy and community there than people realize.” |
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Quoted: So what actually happened here? A shitload of people on Reddit got together to buy up gamespot stock to drive it up in price? View Quote NOt really. I took business class 20 years ago... in this case there is a scarcity of 100 dollar bills so the person who sold you the option might advertise "hey I want a 100dollar bill, ill pay you 105 in 20's for it; but nobody is taking so the price is climbing to insane levels (300+ dollars for that initial 100 dollar bill), in this case the initial 100 dollar bill was 4 bucks and guy bought 1400 options(at 100 shares each , so when the guy exercises his option to buy on said date he sell those options to the firm that provided them for market price(in this case 300 bucks minus his initial 4, 296, times 100, times 1400, something like 40 million bucks worth to that one guy, and everybody else on reddit was like "hey this company said they will be paying 105 for 100 dollar bills on Friday, ill buy some and hold them so they are worth more, and EVERYBODY bought and held so there are NONE for the company to sell on Friday for under 300 bucks). |
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Quoted: It's unwound a bit but not sane at all still. TD and CS locking down trading is going to be interesting if people are unable to unload their shares. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67501/gme1_JPG-1799361.JPG View Quote The shorts will keep coming because it is over-valued and someone is going to ride it down at some point and reap a windfall. Hedge funds just can't trigger the fall on this one like they are accustomed to doing. |
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Quoted: The shorts will keep coming because it is over-valued and someone is going to ride it down at some point and reap a windfall. Hedge funds just can't trigger the fall on this one like they are accustomed to doing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It's unwound a bit but not sane at all still. TD and CS locking down trading is going to be interesting if people are unable to unload their shares. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67501/gme1_JPG-1799361.JPG The shorts will keep coming because it is over-valued and someone is going to ride it down at some point and reap a windfall. Hedge funds just can't trigger the fall on this one like they are accustomed to doing. GME is dramatically undervalued at the ~$340 it is currently trading at. Its true value is Citadel's marginal ability to pay to stay in business. Or, the FED's willingness to print away Citadel's failure to prevent counter-party contagion. That pain point hasn't been reached yet. The rest of the things being traded are mostly pump and dumps. GME is now a financial singularity with no clear way out. |
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Looks like fun. I'm in for one share of GME even though I have no idea beyond the basics what is going on.
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View Quote If TD and Schwab had hedgefunds that stood to gain or lose via halting would this be an FCC as well as an SEC violation? |
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Quoted: Which is complete B*llSh*t....I lost a shitload of money today in the market no one is going to cover me. These guys deserve what they get. I'm curious how much of the market sell off is due to them selling other assets to cover their margin and short positions. View Quote Dude its a pump and dump. We can bitch all day about big money, but this is a pump and dump with rocket bros at the head. |
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Quoted: If TD and Schwab had hedgefunds that stood to gain or lose via halting would this be an FCC as well as an SEC violation? View Quote |
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Quoted: GME is dramatically undervalued at the ~$340 it is currently trading at. Its true value is Citadel's marginal ability to pay to stay in business. Or, the FED's willingness to print away Citadel's failure to prevent counter-party contagion. That pain point hasn't been reached yet. The rest of the things being traded are mostly pump and dumps. GME is now a financial singularity with no clear way out. View Quote well said |
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Quoted: Dude its a pump and dump. We can bitch all day about big money, but this is a pump and dump with rocket bros at the head. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Which is complete B*llSh*t....I lost a shitload of money today in the market no one is going to cover me. These guys deserve what they get. I'm curious how much of the market sell off is due to them selling other assets to cover their margin and short positions. Dude its a pump and dump. We can bitch all day about big money, but this is a pump and dump with rocket bros at the head. No, that's the interesting part. This isn't a pump and dump. It's an externality of over-leveraged short and options positions being exposed to tail risk. GME is a financial singularity now. That doesn't mean you should put money in it. I don't think anyone gets paid out of this, since no-one on the other side of the trade can afford to pay... |
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