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Posted: 1/7/2021 12:57:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ASHLI BABBIT. And don't hand me that she was asking for it because she was committing burglary bullshit.  She was breaking the law. She was not supposed to be there. Put a crap load of people in a building rioting illegally, and if a bad shoot happens agasint someone rioting , I'm not going to lose sleep over it. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 12:58:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BINGO!! Storm the capital in Washington DC, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. So a Federal Courthouse is somehow different than the Senate Building? Not to me. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 12:59:32 PM EDT
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What is the meaning of the hand signals and behavior of the cop with suppressed AR from 23 seconds on?
Does 'thumbs up' have a different meaning to LEO? |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:02:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She was breaking the law. She was not supposed to be there. Put a crap load of people in a building rioting illegally, and if a bad shoot happens agasint someone rioting , I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I didn't see any "rioting". I saw some pissed off people. If they were rioting that building would have been burned to the fucking ground. DU is that away >>>>>>>>>> |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:03:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the meaning of the hand signals and behavior of the cop with suppressed AR from 23 seconds on? Does 'thumbs up' have a different meaning to LEO? |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:10:24 PM EDT
[#6]
Ashli Babbit.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:10:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While not condoning what happened, I also think it's fair to point out that a Fed Courthouse in Portland isn't the US Capitol filled with lawmakers and staff and will be defended in a different manner. Ok, but what part of Graham v. Connor applies a litmus test of "were there politicians nearby?" to police use of force? What was the seriousness of the offense? Was the individual armed? Was any warning given? Would a reasonable officer have possibly made the same decision*? *I have defended OIS'es here that have had GD in an absolute fury because I can see the reasonable officer perspective and so have many other cops on this site. I've also called out bad ones. This is a bad one. It's made worse by the FACT that a political double standard was applied and no one cares because the decedent was protesting the government. Do any of us believe this would be back page news if an unarmed BLM rioter got smoked breaking a window in city hall? How is this different? Because the city hall in question is bigger and in DC? Or maybe it's different because the person who got killed doesn't have a certain skin color and political belief. Unlike most of GD and most federal cops I have actually been surrounded by violent Antifa mobs throwing bricks and molotovs and shockingly neither I nor my cohorts have ever shot an unarmed person. I don't know a single cop who thinks that was reasonable and I know a lot of cops - and the ones I know and associate with aren't pussies. A big part of the leeway we give the agents of law enforcement to use force comes from the fact that we do so to apprehend criminals, often alone or outnumbered, having been called into the situation as it is evolving, We don't sit behind a window waiting to use deadly force to keep a bunch of Americans from yelling at the other Americans who elected them. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:15:08 PM EDT
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These threads tell me one thing. There are a fuck ton of Arfcommers who would have been good little loyalists to the crown during the revolution. Benedict Arnold's everywhere you turn here.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:15:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Totally. It's not weird at all that the federal LE apparatus decided to use deadly force against an unarmed political protestor seeking redress of grievance with their government who may or may not have committed trespassing and some property damage. She should have known this would happen from seeing all the Antifa/BLM rioters shot when they attempted to break into federal buildings, assault federal officers, set buildings on fire, and commit many other violent felonies over the preceding year. It's a good thing we live in a country where the use of lethal force by the federal government is applied fairly and impartially and only for obviously lawful reasons. It's also a good thing that all of our case law relating to use of force by law enforcement has a little asterisk at the bottom that says "Doesn't apply to force used to protect the ruling class." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't think she should have been killed, but she was breaking into a federal building so it's not that weird. Totally. It's not weird at all that the federal LE apparatus decided to use deadly force against an unarmed political protestor seeking redress of grievance with their government who may or may not have committed trespassing and some property damage. She should have known this would happen from seeing all the Antifa/BLM rioters shot when they attempted to break into federal buildings, assault federal officers, set buildings on fire, and commit many other violent felonies over the preceding year. It's a good thing we live in a country where the use of lethal force by the federal government is applied fairly and impartially and only for obviously lawful reasons. It's also a good thing that all of our case law relating to use of force by law enforcement has a little asterisk at the bottom that says "Doesn't apply to force used to protect the ruling class." Like it or not, that "little asterisk" has always been there and always will be there. If you are going to threaten the king and storm the king's castle, you had better bring something with a little kick. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:18:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She was breaking the law. She was not supposed to be there. Put a crap load of people in a building rioting illegally, and if a bad shoot happens agasint someone rioting , I'm not going to lose sleep over it. So it's justified that she was shot and killed over a misdemeanor? That was not a "bad shoot" that was a straight up execution, and it wasn't a riot if the capital police let them in the building as some videos have pointed out. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:19:24 PM EDT
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She loved this country so much! Godspeed Ashli Babbit! You will not be forgotten!
Very good piece, surprisingly well done for MSM.  Woman Killed in U.S. Capitol Siege was Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt of San Diego |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:20:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, but what part of Graham v. Connor applies a litmus test of "were there politicians nearby?" to police use of force? What was the seriousness of the offense? Was the individual armed? Was any warning given? Would a reasonable officer have possibly made the same decision*? *I have defended OIS'es here that have had GD in an absolute fury because I can see the reasonable officer perspective and so have many other cops on this site. I've also called out bad ones. This is a bad one. It's made worse by the FACT that a political double standard was applied and no one cares because the decedent was protesting the government. Do any of us believe this would be back page news if an unarmed BLM rioter got smoked breaking a window in city hall? How is this different? Because the city hall in question is bigger and in DC? Or maybe it's different because the person who got killed doesn't have a certain skin color and political belief. Unlike most of GD and most federal cops I have actually been surrounded by violent Antifa mobs throwing bricks and molotovs and shockingly neither I nor my cohorts have ever shot an unarmed person. I don't know a single cop who thinks that was reasonable and I know a lot of cops - and the ones I know and associate with aren't pussies. A big part of the leeway we give the agents of law enforcement to use force comes from the fact that we do so to apprehend criminals, often alone or outnumbered, having been called into the situation as it is evolving, We don't sit behind a window waiting to use deadly force to keep a bunch of Americans from yelling at the other Americans who elected them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While not condoning what happened, I also think it's fair to point out that a Fed Courthouse in Portland isn't the US Capitol filled with lawmakers and staff and will be defended in a different manner. Ok, but what part of Graham v. Connor applies a litmus test of "were there politicians nearby?" to police use of force? What was the seriousness of the offense? Was the individual armed? Was any warning given? Would a reasonable officer have possibly made the same decision*? *I have defended OIS'es here that have had GD in an absolute fury because I can see the reasonable officer perspective and so have many other cops on this site. I've also called out bad ones. This is a bad one. It's made worse by the FACT that a political double standard was applied and no one cares because the decedent was protesting the government. Do any of us believe this would be back page news if an unarmed BLM rioter got smoked breaking a window in city hall? How is this different? Because the city hall in question is bigger and in DC? Or maybe it's different because the person who got killed doesn't have a certain skin color and political belief. Unlike most of GD and most federal cops I have actually been surrounded by violent Antifa mobs throwing bricks and molotovs and shockingly neither I nor my cohorts have ever shot an unarmed person. I don't know a single cop who thinks that was reasonable and I know a lot of cops - and the ones I know and associate with aren't pussies. A big part of the leeway we give the agents of law enforcement to use force comes from the fact that we do so to apprehend criminals, often alone or outnumbered, having been called into the situation as it is evolving, We don't sit behind a window waiting to use deadly force to keep a bunch of Americans from yelling at the other Americans who elected them. Doesn't USSS march to the beat of a different drummer when it comes to use of deadly force in protection of their charges? You are USSS protecting high value target (VPOTUS, POTUS etc). You are in the middle of a riot and a person with a backpack on comes through a busted window within 15' of the person your are tasked with protecting. They are sequestered behind you in an office with no other avenue of escape. You do not know that person's motivation, if the backpack is filled with explosives, you also do not know that heavily armed guys on the "good" team are on the other side of the door and not super concerned with her as a threat. Purely from an emotional reaction standpoint, what if this was the White House and the person coming through the window was dressed head to toe in black and masked? Or wearing a vest and shouting snackbars? Honest question, I am trying to form an opinion here. And I am far from a blinders on "back the blue" type |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:25:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She was breaking the law. She was not supposed to be there. Put a crap load of people in a building rioting illegally, and if a bad shoot happens agasint someone rioting , I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ASHLI BABBIT. And don't hand me that she was asking for it because she was committing burglary bullshit. She was breaking the law. She was not supposed to be there. Put a crap load of people in a building rioting illegally, and if a bad shoot happens agasint someone rioting , I'm not going to lose sleep over it. Rioting is burning, looting, and destroying. She was doing none of that. The cops let the protestors in. Evidently, shooting unarmed women is GtG in your book? You, sir, are what gives the bowels of ARFcom the stench that it reeks.  |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:27:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So it's justified that she was shot and killed over a misdemeanor? That was not a "bad shoot" that was a straight up execution, and it wasn't a riot if the capital police let them in the building as some videos have pointed out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She was breaking the law. She was not supposed to be there. Put a crap load of people in a building rioting illegally, and if a bad shoot happens agasint someone rioting , I'm not going to lose sleep over it. So it's justified that she was shot and killed over a misdemeanor? That was not a "bad shoot" that was a straight up execution, and it wasn't a riot if the capital police let them in the building as some videos have pointed out. It was a riot the second they started smashing windows and trying to break through locked doors. That isn't typically associated with peaceable assembly. ETA I still think it was a bad shoot but she wasn't exactly standing in a picket line airing grievances. They could have at least attempted to use non-lethal force while she was trying to worm her way through the busted window IMO. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:28:53 PM EDT
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"..."I'm just sayin'..."
Every patriot thread has one or two old but low post count accounts zooming in to shill for the left. Curious. That is. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:29:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't USSS march to the beat of a different drummer when it comes to use of deadly force in protection of their charges? You are USSS protecting high value target (VPOTUS, POTUS etc). You are in the middle of a riot and a person with a backpack on comes through a busted window within 15' of the person your are tasked with protecting. They are sequestered behind you in an office with no other avenue of escape. You do not know that person's motivation, if the backpack is filled with explosives, you also do not know that heavily armed guys on the "good" team are on the other side of the door and not super concerned with her as a threat. Purely from an emotional reaction standpoint, what if this was the White House and the person coming through the window was dressed head to toe in black and masked? Or wearing a vest and shouting snackbars? Honest question, I am trying to form an opinion here. And I am far from a blinders on "back the blue" type Those would all be reasonable questions to ask if any of that had happened. What happened was a bunch of people waving American flags marched on DC supporting the President of the United States, there was no significant clash with federal LE assets(of which there were many on scene), a window was broken and a dude in a suit shot an unarmed female. Could she have been a ISIS Antifa hybrid suicide bomber? That is theoretically possible. It's also theoretically possible that every backpack wearing black masked socialist commie scum who walks up to my riot line yelling at me is the same. I can't shoot them for breaching my personal space bubble because "they might be a terrie" and I have the same fucking rights as every senator and congressman in DC. ETA: All police shootings are evaluated on totality of the circumstances. That's why this one fails the legitimacy test. You can't decide it's ok for leftist angry people to burn down billions of dollars of property, kill cops, throw fire bombs, set precincts on fire, and try to blind law enforcement without getting shot but one unarmed female protestor busts a window in the Capitol and its weapons free time. I'll further add that this woman and this group has far more claim to actually being political protestors than any of the 2020 rioters - they were literally protesting the government, not assaulting cops or setting the Nordstrom's on fire. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:31:20 PM EDT
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Fuck off with the leftist copy cat bullshit.
Don’t let her death be vain! Rest in peace Ashli. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:31:33 PM EDT
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The capitol building is officially no longer "the people's house".
It is a house that is off limits to anyone but the ruling class, their minions, and the armed people who will kill to keep people out of that house. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:32:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn right. Citizens have no right to be in that building. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't think she should have been killed, but she was breaking into a federal building so it's not that weird. Damn right. Citizens have no right to be in that building. They weren't going in with trays of cookies. It was an angry mob trying to get in during a congressional hearing. Again, it sucks that she was killed. But, doesn't it kinda make sense that she was shot, given the circumstances? If she was antifa you all would be cheering and saying "good shoot". |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:33:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: so when do we riot , I mean protest Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Her murder alone should be grounds for a George Floyd type response times 100 - and justifiable if seen through the same light. However, anything the right does is cast in a far different light. It's really a sad state we currently live in. Hell, I got into work to day with a message from our Company CEO stating we should understand that the integrity of the 2020 election is not in doubt and this social unrest is disturbing yet when the Floyd stuff was going on we got messages about how positive change will happen due to the peaceful protests we are witnessing. We are screwed. RIP Might have to sit back and ride the wave of despair. Or, as a poster stated in another thread, say fuck it and put your hand out for all the free shit. However, I am just not wired that way. Looking at all of this from a macro perspective, those of us that have jobs and help to create the wealth this country has have less power than the unemployed professional protester. Being responsible means nothing anymore. Holding yourself accountable, paying your bills, saving for retirement, doing the right thing, all means nothing. Laws are enforced, for the most part, by social class, race, wealth and nepotism. It's a total shit show. Hell, Rittenhouse is being crucified while I have not heard a word about the wanna be security guard that shot the pro Trump guy in the head point blank. I just don't know what to think anymore. Off grid living as a recluse might be the way to go. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:33:51 PM EDT
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Ashli Babbit's name needs to be on a flag and displayed at every protest.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:34:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She was breaking the law. She was not supposed to be there. Put a crap load of people in a building rioting illegally, and if a bad shoot happens agasint someone rioting , I'm not going to lose sleep over it. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:35:36 PM EDT
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Ashli Babbit, I saw her be murdered live. I've been calling republicans all day and not one answered their phone. I will call every day and call them rats and how this brave woman died on January 6 and they couldn't be bothered to address it. I've called every local GOP organizer and informed them this party is dead and I will never forget that they are cowards. This is spreading like wildfire and I will continue to show people what happened to her while these scumbags pontificate how brave they are about continuing the peoples work. At some point these politicians need to come home, and just like leftist I will confront them in person when they step outside. I will shout them down and remind they what they did, this is not going away
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:37:27 PM EDT
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you can't vote tyrants out of office...
You have to make them leave |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:39:37 PM EDT
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Facebook and Instagram have deleted several of my posts about her with her picture. Fuck em, deleting both along with Twitter.
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:41:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These threads tell me one thing. There are a fuck ton of Arfcommers who would have been good little loyalists to the crown during the revolution. Benedict Arnold's everywhere you turn here. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:41:22 PM EDT
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OP this is the video you want. Post it up in your OP.
https://streamable.com/3uoocq Ashli Babbit |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:41:28 PM EDT
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CoC 7 Removed --- Edited by brass
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:42:07 PM EDT
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I just want to take this time to thank the brave men and women of the Capital Police, who selflessly and without hesitation decided to shoot a dangerous unarmed female Trump supporter in the face.
Glad they all made it home safe. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:42:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GD: Rittenhouse...Good Shoot! GD: Ashli was Murdered! Lol you are pathetic |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:43:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GD: Rittenhouse...Good Shoot! GD: Ashli was Murdered! Yeah it's totally the same thing to shoot an obviously unarmed political protestor in the light of day in the middle of DC as shooting a mob trying to murder you in a city that is currently on fire due to mass rioting. Holy fuck you people amaze me. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:49:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those would all be reasonable questions to ask if any of that had happened. What happened was a bunch of people waving American flags marched on DC supporting the President of the United States, there was no significant clash with federal LE assets(of which there were many on scene), a window was broken and a dude in a suit shot an unarmed female. Could she have been a ISIS Antifa hybrid suicide bomber? That is theoretically possible. It's also theoretically possible that every backpack wearing black masked socialist commie scum who walks up to my riot line yelling at me is the same. I can't shoot them for breaching my personal space bubble because "they might be a terrie" and I have the same fucking rights as every senator and congressman in DC. ETA: All police shootings are evaluated on totality of the circumstances. That's why this one fails the legitimacy test. You can't decide it's ok for leftist angry people to burn down billions of dollars of property, kill cops, throw fire bombs, set precincts on fire, and try to blind law enforcement without getting shot but one unarmed female protestor busts a window in the Capitol and its weapons free time. I'll further add that this woman and this group has far more claim to actually being political protestors than any of the 2020 rioters - they were literally protesting the government, not assaulting cops or setting the Nordstrom's on fire. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Doesn't USSS march to the beat of a different drummer when it comes to use of deadly force in protection of their charges? You are USSS protecting high value target (VPOTUS, POTUS etc). You are in the middle of a riot and a person with a backpack on comes through a busted window within 15' of the person your are tasked with protecting. They are sequestered behind you in an office with no other avenue of escape. You do not know that person's motivation, if the backpack is filled with explosives, you also do not know that heavily armed guys on the "good" team are on the other side of the door and not super concerned with her as a threat. Purely from an emotional reaction standpoint, what if this was the White House and the person coming through the window was dressed head to toe in black and masked? Or wearing a vest and shouting snackbars? Honest question, I am trying to form an opinion here. And I am far from a blinders on "back the blue" type Those would all be reasonable questions to ask if any of that had happened. What happened was a bunch of people waving American flags marched on DC supporting the President of the United States, there was no significant clash with federal LE assets(of which there were many on scene), a window was broken and a dude in a suit shot an unarmed female. Could she have been a ISIS Antifa hybrid suicide bomber? That is theoretically possible. It's also theoretically possible that every backpack wearing black masked socialist commie scum who walks up to my riot line yelling at me is the same. I can't shoot them for breaching my personal space bubble because "they might be a terrie" and I have the same fucking rights as every senator and congressman in DC. ETA: All police shootings are evaluated on totality of the circumstances. That's why this one fails the legitimacy test. You can't decide it's ok for leftist angry people to burn down billions of dollars of property, kill cops, throw fire bombs, set precincts on fire, and try to blind law enforcement without getting shot but one unarmed female protestor busts a window in the Capitol and its weapons free time. I'll further add that this woman and this group has far more claim to actually being political protestors than any of the 2020 rioters - they were literally protesting the government, not assaulting cops or setting the Nordstrom's on fire. Fair points. We do know VPOTUS was in the building but not sure where. AFAIK, we do not know what agency the shooter was attached to or what his role is. No, as a cop those circumstances do not apply (shooting every black masked commie scum with a backpack that walks up to you). But for better or for worse, there are a small group that are "more equal" and the rules change. POTUS, VPOTUS, formers and their immediate family. I totally agree with you with the totality of circumstances. But I would imagine that they (USSS and maybe capitol police) have a set of rules for times of unrest that forms a circle around those they are tasked to protect and have a "cross this line and you die, no warnings, no exceptions". And she may have unknowingly crossed that line. If the people in the photo who were looking through the windows into the house floor that were drawn down on had tried to breech that door I have no doubt they would have been shot too. Again, I do not know. Given that there was 2, maybe 3 suited, armed individuals in that hallway, someone could have easily challenged her (unarmed, not overtly hostile) verbally or physically (shove her back out the window). Either way it is a tragedy. She was local to me, she was like minded and she did not deserve to die. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 1:59:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it's totally the same thing to shoot an obviously unarmed political protestor in the light of day in the middle of DC as shooting a mob trying to murder you in a city that is currently on fire due to mass rioting. Babbit was shot by law enforcement while committing 4+ crimes and ignored repeated law enforcement commands to cease advancing into a controlled area. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:00:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was a riot the second they started smashing windows and trying to break through locked doors. That isn't typically associated with peaceable assembly. ETA I still think it was a bad shoot but she wasn't exactly standing in a picket line airing grievances. They could have at least attempted to use non-lethal force while she was trying to worm her way through the busted window IMO. So that gives them the right to shoot her? Oh officers just less lethal on them while wearing plain clothes? Really? the only thing they had to do was restrain her when she came through the window. they saw her and saw that she was unarmed, that was not a split second decision that that officer had to make. He. Just. Shot. Her. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:01:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GD: Rittenhouse...Good Shoot! GD: Ashli was Murdered! Was she braining anyone with a skateboard helmet man? |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:07:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Babbit was shot by law enforcement while committing 4+ crimes and ignored repeated law enforcement commands to cease advancing into a controlled area. Still does not give them the right to shoot her. No restricted area circumvents the law. Even still if the VP was there, there are other methods other than just straight shooting someone. She posed no threat. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:09:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Babbit was shot by law enforcement while committing 4+ crimes and ignored repeated law enforcement commands to cease advancing into a controlled area. Cool. Now please explain to me using US use of force case law how committing a number of misdemeanors and entering a "controlled area" justifies deadly force. I'll wait, because you can't. The offense she was committing was trespassing and property damage, there was no reasonable belief she was armed or intended to harm anyone, and, most glaringly - this was a POLITICAL PROTEST, not a riot, not a lone intruder, not anything that would lead any reasonable officer to conclude they were in mortal danger. Exhibit A of which is that there was a god damn SWAT team with plate carriers, SBRs, and cool guy comms literally around the corner who didn't feel the need to ARREST anyone, let alone fucking shoot them. I have NOT pulled the trigger on countless violent felons who were doing way worse shit than that chick was, including assaulting me, and, in one instance, my partner with a deadly weapon, because when you pull the fucking trigger it HAS to be reasonable. Not 100% right, just reasonable. If you watch that video and think that's reasonable, congratulations because a Communist Chinese tank driver at Tianenmen Square is a better person than you are. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:13:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool. Now please explain to me using US use of force case law how committing a number of misdemeanors and entering a "controlled area" justifies deadly force. I'll wait, because you can't. The offense she was committing was trespassing and property damage, there was no reasonable belief she was armed or intended to harm anyone, and, most glaringly - this was a POLITICAL PROTEST, not a riot, not a lone intruder, not anything that would lead any reasonable officer to conclude they were in mortal danger. Exhibit A of which is that there was a god damn SWAT team with plate carriers, SBRs, and cool guy comms literally around the corner who didn't feel the need to ARREST anyone, let alone fucking shoot them. I have NOT pulled the trigger on countless violent felons who were doing way worse shit than that chick was, including assaulting me, and, in one instance, my partner with a deadly weapon, because when you pull the fucking trigger it HAS to be reasonable. Not 100% right, just reasonable. If you watch that video and think that's reasonable, congratulations because a Communist Chinese tank driver at Tianenmen Square is a better person than you are.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 2:22:58 PM EDT
[#39]
R.I.P Ashli Babbitt
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Posted: 1/7/2021 3:06:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She was breaking the law. She was not supposed to be there. Put a crap load of people in a building rioting illegally, and if a bad shoot happens agasint someone rioting , I'm not going to lose sleep over it. What a dumb ass.. did you watch the video? Surrounded by cops. Thats a bad shoot. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 3:13:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ...... she wasn't exactly standing in a picket line airing grievances. I appears the days of patriots screaming at the clouds "hoping" something will change are quickly coming to and end. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 3:15:12 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "..."I'm just sayin'..." Every patriot thread has one or two old but low post count accounts zooming in to shill for the left. Curious. That is. Not curious to me. It just means there are long term DU or .gov plants who are dusting off their account. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 3:18:09 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Babbit was shot by law enforcement while committing 4+ crimes and ignored repeated law enforcement commands to cease advancing into a controlled area. Under no use of force standard that I am aware of was that a good shoot. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 8:13:41 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP this is the video you want. Post it up in your OP. https://streamable.com/3uoocq Ashli Babbit It has been removed. I'm surprised the YouTube one is still up. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 8:20:06 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They weren't going in with trays of cookies. It was an angry mob trying to get in during a congressional hearing. Again, it sucks that she was killed. But, doesn't it kinda make sense that she was shot, given the circumstances? If she was antifa you all would be cheering and saying "good shoot". No, no it doesn't make sense. They were such an "angry mob" that they stayed in between the red velvet ropes. Your attitude is what is wrong with the old guard "Republicans" ETA: And, I hope you're never standing side by side with me. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 8:38:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/7/2021 10:16:12 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOh I like that. Nice work.... It's just NOT right that this is on page 5. People she is 1,000 times the person the left holds up and burns cities for. 14 years of service and 4 combat tours and gunned down at the capital. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 12:53:59 AM EDT
[#48]
OK streamable.com shit canned the video so new link and downloadable.
Video of shooter saved off twitter to mega in case it disappears. VIDEO: Shooter Video HD 1080 with sound saved  |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 3:13:33 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a different link to the video in the OP? That one won’t work for me Try this one. Capture it on Win10 PC using WinKey + G https://streamable.com/8i7i82 |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 3:23:45 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She was breaking the law. She was not supposed to be there. Put a crap load of people in a building rioting illegally, and if a bad shoot happens agasint someone rioting , I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I hope that the next time you break the law in any form, however slight, you get the same level of justice that she got. And I hope I get to view it. |
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