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Posted: 7/25/2021 2:20:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm still new enough to F1 to not know what I'm talking about (  ), but being the #2 driver on the #1 team seems like a pretty good gig unless you're actually better than the #1 guy. Why leave?Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd love to see Valteri on Red Bull to get his revenge. Mercedes treats him like shit. This for sure. I get so angry when they make him give up places to LH. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I recall it going the other way. Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. I'm still new enough to F1 to not know what I'm talking about ( ), but being the #2 driver on the #1 team seems like a pretty good gig unless you're actually better than the #1 guy. Why leave?Bottas is being replaced by Russel. Russel is the future number one driver after Hamilton retires. |
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Posted: 7/25/2021 2:40:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd love to see Valteri on Red Bull to get his revenge. Mercedes treats him like shit. This for sure. I get so angry when they make him give up places to LH. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I recall it going the other way. Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. Multi-21 
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Posted: 7/25/2021 3:35:35 PM EDT
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Got to say….I haven’t really paid any attention to F1 since the last race (which is rare for me).
I’m not a fan of the budget cap and PU usage rules as they currently stand - when applied without context to incidents like Max’s wreck. It’s all just too artificial, stunts the opportunity for even competition through the end of the season, and costs the offending team absolutely nothing. Speaking of an artificial show…..gps data. All of the teams get it, but nobody else is allowed access. Why? It’s a face saver for the engine manufacturers, a face saver for driver legacy, and most importantly, it keeps all the shenanigans in house. |
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Posted: 7/25/2021 4:44:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Multi-21 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd love to see Valteri on Red Bull to get his revenge. Mercedes treats him like shit. This for sure. I get so angry when they make him give up places to LH. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I recall it going the other way. Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. Multi-21 And I have more respect for Seb for being a competitor and not just rolling over. FMW. |
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Posted: 7/25/2021 5:33:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm still new enough to F1 to not know what I'm talking about ( ), but being the #2 driver on the #1 team seems like a pretty good gig unless you're actually better than the #1 guy. Why leave?Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd love to see Valteri on Red Bull to get his revenge. Mercedes treats him like shit. This for sure. I get so angry when they make him give up places to LH. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I recall it going the other way. Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. I'm still new enough to F1 to not know what I'm talking about ( ), but being the #2 driver on the #1 team seems like a pretty good gig unless you're actually better than the #1 guy. Why leave?It’s hard to reach F1 without thinking you are god’s gift to driving and vastly superior to anyone else on the grid. Of the 20 guys out there BOT strikes me as the only one who is happy to come in second week in and week out. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 12:07:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm still new enough to F1 to not know what I'm talking about ( ), but being the #2 driver on the #1 team seems like a pretty good gig unless you're actually better than the #1 guy. Why leave?Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd love to see Valteri on Red Bull to get his revenge. Mercedes treats him like shit. This for sure. I get so angry when they make him give up places to LH. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I recall it going the other way. Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. I'm still new enough to F1 to not know what I'm talking about ( ), but being the #2 driver on the #1 team seems like a pretty good gig unless you're actually better than the #1 guy. Why leave?I think most of those guys think they could win the championship if they were just in the right car or had the same luck as their teammate. In some cases they are correct but most of the time... |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 12:13:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s hard to reach F1 without thinking you are god’s gift to driving and vastly superior to anyone else on the grid. Of the 20 guys out there BOT strikes me as the only one who is happy to come in second week in and week out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd love to see Valteri on Red Bull to get his revenge. Mercedes treats him like shit. This for sure. I get so angry when they make him give up places to LH. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I recall it going the other way. Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. I'm still new enough to F1 to not know what I'm talking about ( ), but being the #2 driver on the #1 team seems like a pretty good gig unless you're actually better than the #1 guy. Why leave?It’s hard to reach F1 without thinking you are god’s gift to driving and vastly superior to anyone else on the grid. Of the 20 guys out there BOT strikes me as the only one who is happy to come in second week in and week out. This too |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 5:25:13 AM EDT
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Lets play silly season...
We operate under the impression HAM has a say in what happens driver wise at Merc, which I think is fair. HAM doesn't want RUS as the second driver, right? Not only has he proven to be quick in the Merc last year but if Merc continues to be successful in the next gen of car could a British driver like RUS threaten his records? Potentially so - and obviously not something HAM wants with a British driver, or one with no pedigree. So who becomes the second driver at Merc? My wild guess is Mick. MERC - HAM, SCH ALFA - BOT, RUS HAAS - MAZ, KVT WIL - LAT, ??? I'm sure it's a far shot but wouldn't be a terrible shakeup. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 5:51:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lets play silly season... We operate under the impression HAM has a say in what happens driver wise at Merc, which I think is fair. HAM doesn't want RUS as the second driver, right? Not only has he proven to be quick in the Merc last year but if Merc continues to be successful in the next gen of car could a British driver like RUS threaten his records? Potentially so - and obviously not something HAM wants with a British driver, or one with no pedigree. So who becomes the second driver at Merc? My wild guess is Mick. MERC - HAM, SCH ALFA - BOT, RUS HAAS - MAZ, KVT WIL - LAT, ??? I'm sure it's a far shot but wouldn't be a terrible shakeup. If Rus is not inthe Merc by 2023, he will go to Red Bull. Just my guess. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 7:33:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And I have more respect for Seb for being a competitor and not just rolling over. FMW. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd love to see Valteri on Red Bull to get his revenge. Mercedes treats him like shit. This for sure. I get so angry when they make him give up places to LH. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I recall it going the other way. Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. Multi-21 And I have more respect for Seb for being a competitor and not just rolling over. FMW. Would you feel the same about HAM if he was told to hold P2 and passed BOT anyway? |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 8:28:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would you feel the same about HAM if he was told to hold P2 and passed BOT anyway? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd love to see Valteri on Red Bull to get his revenge. Mercedes treats him like shit. This for sure. I get so angry when they make him give up places to LH. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I recall it going the other way. Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. Multi-21 And I have more respect for Seb for being a competitor and not just rolling over. FMW. Would you feel the same about HAM if he was told to hold P2 and passed BOT anyway? Lets reverse that. How would you feel about Bot doing it to Ham? |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 8:52:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lets reverse that. How would you feel about Bot doing it to Ham? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd love to see Valteri on Red Bull to get his revenge. Mercedes treats him like shit. This for sure. I get so angry when they make him give up places to LH. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I recall it going the other way. Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. Multi-21 And I have more respect for Seb for being a competitor and not just rolling over. FMW. Would you feel the same about HAM if he was told to hold P2 and passed BOT anyway? Lets reverse that. How would you feel about Bot doing it to Ham? Answer my question first. ETA: It was an honest question. Not trying for a 'gotcha' moment or anything. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 9:16:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lets play silly season... We operate under the impression HAM has a say in what happens driver wise at Merc, which I think is fair. Curious as to why you think it’s fair for any driver to have a say as to who sits in the other seat? Not picking an argument, serious question. I’m looking to learn something here. I’d think what’s the purpose of having a team manager at that point... |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 10:01:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lets play silly season... We operate under the impression HAM has a say in what happens driver wise at Merc, which I think is fair. HAM doesn't want RUS as the second driver, right? Not only has he proven to be quick in the Merc last year but if Merc continues to be successful in the next gen of car could a British driver like RUS threaten his records? Potentially so - and obviously not something HAM wants with a British driver, or one with no pedigree. So who becomes the second driver at Merc? My wild guess is Mick. MERC - HAM, SCH ALFA - BOT, RUS HAAS - MAZ, KVT WIL - LAT, ??? I'm sure it's a far shot but wouldn't be a terrible shakeup. Mick is a Ferrari driver and RUS is a Mercedes driver. I don’t see how they end up on each others teams. I think Mick will be sitting in Sainz’s seat in a year or two and RUS will be in the Mercedes. I don’t think HAM has ultimate veto power over who’s in the other car, especially if they don’t win the championships this year. Not only will Mercedes want the best driver lineup possible but they’ll want to keep RUS from competing against them. They did it to Ocon in 2019. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 10:24:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mick is a Ferrari driver and RUS is a Mercedes driver. I don't see how they end up on each others teams. I think Mick will be sitting in Sainz's seat in a year or two and RUS will be in the Mercedes. I don't think HAM has ultimate veto power over who's in the other car, especially if they don't win the championships this year. Not only will Mercedes want the best driver lineup possible but they'll want to keep RUS from competing against them. They did it to Ocon in 2019. They can fill their seats with whoever they want. That part of their engine deal with Ferrari ends after this season. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 11:33:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alfa does not need to use any Ferrari Academy drivers next year. They can fill their seats with whoever they want. That part of their engine deal with Ferrari ends after this season. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mick is a Ferrari driver and RUS is a Mercedes driver. I don't see how they end up on each others teams. I think Mick will be sitting in Sainz's seat in a year or two and RUS will be in the Mercedes. I don't think HAM has ultimate veto power over who's in the other car, especially if they don't win the championships this year. Not only will Mercedes want the best driver lineup possible but they'll want to keep RUS from competing against them. They did it to Ocon in 2019. They can fill their seats with whoever they want. That part of their engine deal with Ferrari ends after this season. I don’t see how the second seat at Alfa will have any influence over where Mick and RUS end up. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 11:38:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Answer my question first. ETA: It was an honest question. Not trying for a 'gotcha' moment or anything. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd love to see Valteri on Red Bull to get his revenge. Mercedes treats him like shit. This for sure. I get so angry when they make him give up places to LH. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I recall it going the other way. Like it or not Formula 1 is a team sport and team orders aren’t anything new or exclusive to Mercedes. Multi-21 And I have more respect for Seb for being a competitor and not just rolling over. FMW. Would you feel the same about HAM if he was told to hold P2 and passed BOT anyway? Lets reverse that. How would you feel about Bot doing it to Ham? Answer my question first. ETA: It was an honest question. Not trying for a 'gotcha' moment or anything. Racing in my opinion should be a competition of individual cars and drivers. In my opinion the whole "team" thing of multiple cars blocking and being used as air difusion is bullshit. This should be an every man for himself sport. When Hamilton passes Bottas because he is faster I have no problem with it, I do have a problem with drivers being told to hold position or let someoe else through. So in summary Hamilton passing on merit, no problem as long as bottas is "allowed" to put up a fight. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 11:51:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Racing in my opinion should be a competition of individual cars and drivers. In my opinion the whole "team" thing of multiple cars blocking and being used as air difusion is bullshit. This should be an every man for himself sport. When Hamilton passes Bottas because he is faster I have no problem with it, I do have a problem with drivers being told to hold position or let someoe else through. So in summary Hamilton passing on merit, no problem as long as bottas is "allowed" to put up a fight. This is why IMSA,WEC, etc are the better series at this point. Too much politics both internal/external in F1 now. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 3:49:44 PM EDT
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Seems like George grew a pair: george-russell-wont-join-mercedes-while-lewis-hamiltons-there
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Posted: 7/26/2021 6:44:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like George grew a pair: george-russell-wont-join-mercedes-while-lewis-hamiltons-there Bs opinion. Here is the link it sent me to to read the whole article. https://www.planetf1.com/news/giedo-van-der-garde-george-russell-future/ |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 6:51:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are assuming that Bottas wants to go to Alfa. Of course, it’s probably more like “where Toto will allow him to go”, sadly. I don’t think he has any power over where Bottas goes. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 6:56:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean....it can't be worse. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't know if Red Bull is the place to go for a more friendly work environment. I mean....it can't be worse. Horner would probably be OK, but having to deal with Marko is something completely different. Don’t be fooled, Max is still the number one driver. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 7:03:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bottas is being replaced by Russel. Russel is the future number one driver after Hamilton retires. After Hammy retires is one thing, but both on the team at the same time is something else. Russell won’t accept being a number 2 driver like Bottas does, and Hammy won’t accept not being the number 1 driver. Think the Vettel-Leclerc pairing, or even Hammy-Rosberg. Toto will eventually have to choose a side, and it probably won’t be pretty. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 8:00:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bs opinion. Here is the link it sent me to to read the whole article. https://www.planetf1.com/news/giedo-van-der-garde-george-russell-future/ The comments are accurate. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 10:16:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Curious as to why you think it’s fair for any driver to have a say as to who sits in the other seat? Not picking an argument, serious question. I’m looking to learn something here. I’d think what’s the purpose of having a team manager at that point... I don't. It's just something that has gone around on F1 news and rumors. Team manager job is to get constructor/drivers championship and if the manager believes HAM as the answer they would likely try and accommodate. |
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Posted: 7/26/2021 10:27:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mick is a Ferrari driver and RUS is a Mercedes driver. I don’t see how they end up on each others teams. I think Mick will be sitting in Sainz’s seat in a year or two and RUS will be in the Mercedes. I don’t think HAM has ultimate veto power over who’s in the other car, especially if they don’t win the championships this year. Not only will Mercedes want the best driver lineup possible but they’ll want to keep RUS from competing against them. They did it to Ocon in 2019. I know they are drivers for different teams than I lined out, but ultimately how much does that really matter? Just a few years ago Sainz was a Red Bull driver, then McLaren now Ferrari. They can jump around. SCH has got to have some ties to Merc, it is where his dad spent the last few years of his career. He and HAM have a decent relationship it seems. Ultimately, I was sitting waiting on a flight and was tired of thinking about work and my mind went to crazy silly season moves. |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 6:45:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why IMSA,WEC, etc are the better series at this point. Too much politics both internal/external in F1 now. Sadly from the politics perspective I agree with this. I’d still chose to go to an F1 race over the latter any day though. COTA is a blast if you can park yourself up in turn 1. |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 7:04:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2021 10:58:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2021 8:40:52 AM EDT
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Verstappen, Hamilton & Leclerc | 3D Ghost Car Comparison
 Verstappen, Hamilton & Leclerc | 3D Ghost Car Comparison #Shorts |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 10:18:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Verstappen, Hamilton & Leclerc | 3D Ghost Car Comparison  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGgpdb2WhREDoes anyone show HAMs sprint race lines? |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 1:10:53 AM EDT
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HUNGARIAN GRAND PRIX SCHEDULE
Friday 07/30 FP1 5:30am -ESPN2 FP2 9am -ESPNU Saturday 07/31 FP3 6am -ESPN2 Quali 9am -ESPN2 Sunday 08/01 RACE 9am -ESPN  Good Lap vs. Great Lap, with George Russell | Hungarian Grand Prix  5 Feel Good Moments In Hungary | Hungarian Grand Prix |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 1:36:20 PM EDT
[#33]
Thanks. I was wondering about the schedule.
Where can that be found? - |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 3:12:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. I was wondering about the schedule. Where can that be found? - For the TV schedule I use this page but sometimes ESPN is slow to update it to the upcoming race. https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/26082657/espn-tv-schedule-2021-f1-season |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 3:14:42 PM EDT
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Red Bull petition to review has been dismissed.
 
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Posted: 7/29/2021 3:30:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Red Bull petition to review has been dismissed. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7e_f-gWUAEy9ps?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7e_f-fXMAUazS9?format=jpg&name=small Well....this will make the rest of the season interesting. It only costs a 10 second penalty to take out a car now per this bullshit. |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 3:50:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well....this will make the rest of the season interesting. It only costs Mercedes a 10 second penalty to take out a car now per this bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Red Bull petition to review has been dismissed. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7e_f-gWUAEy9ps?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7e_f-fXMAUazS9?format=jpg&name=small Well....this will make the rest of the season interesting. It only costs Mercedes a 10 second penalty to take out a car now per this bullshit. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 4:17:21 PM EDT
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I came here looking for pit girls. Was that wrong?
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Posted: 7/29/2021 4:19:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I came here looking for pit girls. Was that wrong? F1 has gone woke... no more pit girls. 
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Posted: 7/29/2021 4:29:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the TV schedule I use this page but sometimes ESPN is slow to update it to the upcoming race. https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/26082657/espn-tv-schedule-2021-f1-season Thanks! |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 5:18:32 PM EDT
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and Hamilton criticize Hungary's laws against exposition of minors to trans and homosexual propaganda on social media....
https://www.gazzetta.it/Formula-1/29-07-2021/f1-gp-ungheria-lewis-hamilton-attacca-social-leggi-anti-gay-ungheresi-42014166908.shtml what a fucking dipshit this faggot is--- Mind your fuck9ing business you twat |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 5:47:22 PM EDT
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7 Times F1 Title Rivals Crashed
 7 Times F1 Title Rivals Crashed |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 9:30:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Red Bull petition to review has been dismissed. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7e_f-gWUAEy9ps?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7e_f-fXMAUazS9?format=jpg&name=small They had an almost zero chance of succeeding anyway. To get an appeal, they had to present new evidence. They didn’t have any. |
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Posted: 7/29/2021 9:49:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They had an almost zero chance of succeeding anyway. To get an appeal, they had to present new evidence. They didn’t have any. Well they did some great slides in Windows Paint. |
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Posted: 7/30/2021 8:28:06 AM EDT
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Per ESPN F1:
Netflix has confirmed the upcoming release of a film about F1 legend Michael Schumacher, set for release on September 15. The film, the first to be supported by the driver's family, will give "unique insights" into his life. |
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Posted: 7/30/2021 8:55:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Per ESPN F1: Is he simply enjoying his privacy or is he a vegetable in a bed somewhere? In any case I wish him well and look forward to seeing this special. Such an awesome driver. |
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Posted: 7/30/2021 9:45:32 AM EDT
[#47]
 F1 2021 Hungarian GP Live FP2 Watchalong |
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Posted: 7/30/2021 3:40:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2021 4:42:42 PM EDT
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Is the field tightening up? (even Haas ....)
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Posted: 7/30/2021 8:51:36 PM EDT
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