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Link Posted: 10/20/2022 6:14:10 PM EDT
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UA Mi-24

Link Posted: 10/20/2022 6:25:53 PM EDT
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Soviet/Russian Beriev Be-12 ASW/SAR amphibian
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Link Posted: 10/20/2022 6:51:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://i.imgur.com/WUnDuL3.jpg

A British soldier with a group of children in Belfast, 1981.

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My guess is, the kids are Billy Boys....doubt they would be that happy if they were Paddy's..
Link Posted: 10/21/2022 5:14:01 PM EDT
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This 1970s tank simulator drives through a tiny world
Link Posted: 10/21/2022 7:02:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/22/2022 8:00:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/23/2022 10:43:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://i.imgur.com/LZWqrXo.jpg

UA Mi-24

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That is a pretty cool picture.
Link Posted: 10/23/2022 7:38:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/24/2022 6:49:07 AM EDT
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On October 17, 2022, the first six German Marder 1A3 tracked armored IFVs were delivered to the Greek army. (Picture source Greek MoD)
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Link Posted: 10/24/2022 11:19:54 AM EDT
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Martin Marinerski?

PBMski?
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Look at this plane's predecessor, the Beriev Be-6, for full PBMski.  1949 through 1970-ish, Soviet and Chinese navies
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Link Posted: 10/24/2022 11:34:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/25/2022 5:51:23 AM EDT
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Leopard 2 first series prototype is presented to representatives of Great Britain, France and the USA. Yuma Proving Ground, Arizona. Desert testing. September 15, 1975
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Link Posted: 10/25/2022 7:49:05 AM EDT
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PLZ-05 self propelled howitzer of the PLA in a live fire exercise in Xinjiang
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Syrian Golan-1000 MLR
Link Posted: 10/25/2022 1:42:50 PM EDT
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Good size comparison between the Su-30SM at left, Su-35 right, and MiG-29 in the middle.  The Sukhois are notable for being among the largest planes in the conventional gen 4 twin engine fighter bomber layout while the MiG-29 is on the small end of that form.  Some kind of joint Belarussian/Russian event.
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Link Posted: 10/25/2022 2:01:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Good size comparison between the Su-30SM at left, Su-35 right, and MiG-29 in the middle.  The Sukhois are notable for being among the largest planes in the conventional gen 4 twin engine fighter bomber layout while the MiG-29 is on the small end of that form.  Some kind of joint Belarussian/Russian event.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/Good_size_comparison_between_the_Su-30SM-2575719.JPG
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Size comparison between the SU and F-15.

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Link Posted: 10/25/2022 2:56:23 PM EDT
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Swedish naval base in Muskö
Link Posted: 10/25/2022 2:58:04 PM EDT
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BPM-97 captured from Russian forces, repainted and put into service with Ukrainian forces
Link Posted: 10/25/2022 3:23:55 PM EDT
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Flakpanzer Gepard Prototyp 5 PFZ-A, late 1960s





Over 50 years later, Gepard in the Ukraine hunting Orcs.  


Who would have thought it?
Link Posted: 10/30/2022 6:12:08 AM EDT
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Leopard 2A4T1

Link Posted: 10/31/2022 3:19:14 PM EDT
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M41 vs Leopard Prototype

Link Posted: 11/1/2022 4:33:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/1/2022 4:42:57 PM EDT
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I've noticed that most Western tracked armored vehicles have rubber pads on the tracks, but with Russian/Soviet bloc stuff the tracks are all metal, much like a bulldozer or tracked loader in the US.

I would image the all metal tracks do much more damage to the roadways than the padded western style tracks do.
Link Posted: 11/1/2022 4:46:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bunn19:
I've noticed that most Western tracked armored vehicles have rubber pads on the tracks, but with Russian/Soviet bloc stuff the tracks are all metal, much like a bulldozer or tracked loader in the US.

I would image the all metal tracks do much more damage to the roadways than the padded western style tracks do.
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Yes
Link Posted: 11/1/2022 6:18:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13mnsAWBIMM
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Link Posted: 11/1/2022 7:15:03 PM EDT
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Not sure if anybody posted this, but seems relevant based on what we're seeing in Ukraine.

Extended Range Cannon Artillery:

https://www.overtdefense.com/2020/12/24/new-army-extended-range-cannon-hits-target-43-miles-away/




Link Posted: 11/1/2022 7:44:37 PM EDT
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You versus the guys she tells you not to worry about
Link Posted: 11/1/2022 7:49:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bunn19:
I've noticed that most Western tracked armored vehicles have rubber pads on the tracks, but with Russian/Soviet bloc stuff the tracks are all metal, much like a bulldozer or tracked loader in the US.

I would image the all metal tracks do much more damage to the roadways than the padded western style tracks do.
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That is a throwback to us being in West Germany and not tearing up the Autobahn and village streets.

The Russians took the lessons learned from the Great War to make there track Grousers all steel, fuck roads, Need them to bite/dig into to snow/ice and frozen ground.

If you look at pics of German leopard tanks, they have metal grousers that look like the letter X hanging on the front slope. They too learned valuable lessons fighting on the Eastern Front, and those metal grousers are used to replace random rubber ones to achieve a greater level of traction on Ice/snow/frozen ground.

When the bullets are flying, nobody is going to give two fucks on missing trackpads.

And yes, you can power slide a 60Ton tanks....
Link Posted: 11/2/2022 5:50:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Harv24:



That is a throwback to us being in West Germany and not tearing up the Autobahn and village streets.

The Russians took the lessons learned from the Great War to make there track Grousers all steel, fuck roads, Need them to bite/dig into to snow/ice and frozen ground.

If you look at pics of German leopard tanks, they have metal grousers that look like the letter X hanging on the front slope. They too learned valuable lessons fighting on the Eastern Front, and those metal grousers are used to replace random rubber ones to achieve a greater level of traction on Ice/snow/frozen ground.

When the bullets are flying, nobody is going to give two fucks on missing trackpads.

And yes, you can power slide a 60Ton tanks....
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Not for the German streets.

Mostly to reduce vibrations and noise and to increase the service life of the tracks. And the handling with rubber tracks is much better.


The modern Russian AFVs are using them too.







Link Posted: 11/2/2022 9:47:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:



Not for the German streets.

Mostly to reduce vibrations and noise and to increase the service life of the tracks. And the handling with rubber tracks is much better.


The modern Russian AFVs are using them too.

https://i.imgur.com/11OqN4k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qr4J7Q7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kkuQSGd.jpg

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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By Harv24:



That is a throwback to us being in West Germany and not tearing up the Autobahn and village streets.

The Russians took the lessons learned from the Great War to make there track Grousers all steel, fuck roads, Need them to bite/dig into to snow/ice and frozen ground.

If you look at pics of German leopard tanks, they have metal grousers that look like the letter X hanging on the front slope. They too learned valuable lessons fighting on the Eastern Front, and those metal grousers are used to replace random rubber ones to achieve a greater level of traction on Ice/snow/frozen ground.

When the bullets are flying, nobody is going to give two fucks on missing trackpads.

And yes, you can power slide a 60Ton tanks....



Not for the German streets.

Mostly to reduce vibrations and noise and to increase the service life of the tracks. And the handling with rubber tracks is much better.


The modern Russian AFVs are using them too.

https://i.imgur.com/11OqN4k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qr4J7Q7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kkuQSGd.jpg

Now tell us why the Russians (and the Germans during WWII) never use the upper wheelie things and let their tracks hang down like a floppy dick while Western tanks always seem to have them.
Link Posted: 11/2/2022 10:26:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Merlin:
Now tell us why the Russians (and the Germans during WWII) never use the upper wheelie things and let their tracks hang down like a floppy dick while Western tanks always seem to have them.
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Originally Posted By Merlin:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By Harv24:



That is a throwback to us being in West Germany and not tearing up the Autobahn and village streets.

The Russians took the lessons learned from the Great War to make there track Grousers all steel, fuck roads, Need them to bite/dig into to snow/ice and frozen ground.

If you look at pics of German leopard tanks, they have metal grousers that look like the letter X hanging on the front slope. They too learned valuable lessons fighting on the Eastern Front, and those metal grousers are used to replace random rubber ones to achieve a greater level of traction on Ice/snow/frozen ground.

When the bullets are flying, nobody is going to give two fucks on missing trackpads.

And yes, you can power slide a 60Ton tanks....



Not for the German streets.

Mostly to reduce vibrations and noise and to increase the service life of the tracks. And the handling with rubber tracks is much better.


The modern Russian AFVs are using them too.

https://i.imgur.com/11OqN4k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qr4J7Q7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kkuQSGd.jpg

Now tell us why the Russians (and the Germans during WWII) never use the upper wheelie things and let their tracks hang down like a floppy dick while Western tanks always seem to have them.



Christie suspension doesn't use return rollers. Russians love them some Christie suspension.
Link Posted: 11/2/2022 1:48:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Merlin:
Now tell us why the Russians (and the Germans during WWII) never use the upper wheelie things and let their tracks hang down like a floppy dick while Western tanks always seem to have them.
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Most of the German tanks ever built used the "upper wheelie things" aka "Stützrollen".



Russian T-26 tank with supporting rollers.  



T-14 Armata with upper wheelie things too.

Link Posted: 11/2/2022 4:11:19 PM EDT
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1968-69, Chinese border guards hopped up on the cultural revolution shout and angrily shake Mao's little red book at Russian border guards
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Shouting matches escalated to shoving matches
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...which escalated to blows with sticks, and reinforcements brought bigger sticks
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Serious fighting broke out in March 1969 on Damansky Island (Russian name) AKA Zhenbao Island (Chinese name) in a Chinese attack that soon involved battalion sized forces using armor and artillery and resulting in hundreds of fatalities.  A Russian T-62 supporting an attempt to retake the island was disabled and captured by the Chinese
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And is still on display at the Military Museum of the Chinese People's Revolution
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Both sides were preparing for full scale war and the Russians were considering a first strike against Chinese nuclear weapons until diplomacy got a grip on the situation.
Link Posted: 11/2/2022 4:21:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Merlin:
Now tell us why the Russians (and the Germans during WWII) never use the upper wheelie things and let their tracks hang down like a floppy dick while Western tanks always seem to have them.
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Large road wheels rotating in the correct direction pass the track back ...

German Tanks never used Christie Suspension.  The Russians were enamoried of it though.  Later war German Tanks (Tigers, Panthers, Lynx & others) used Torsion Bars for suspension.

The "Slack Track" system saved having additional return wheels (less metal, bearings, time to make, install & maintain).

Bigger_Hammer
Link Posted: 11/2/2022 7:24:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:




Not for the German streets.

Mostly to reduce vibrations and noise and to increase the service life of the tracks. And the handling with rubber tracks is much better.


The modern Russian AFVs are using them too.

https://i.imgur.com/11OqN4k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qr4J7Q7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kkuQSGd.jpg

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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By Harv24:



That is a throwback to us being in West Germany and not tearing up the Autobahn and village streets.

The Russians took the lessons learned from the Great War to make there track Grousers all steel, fuck roads, Need them to bite/dig into to snow/ice and frozen ground.

If you look at pics of German leopard tanks, they have metal grousers that look like the letter X hanging on the front slope. They too learned valuable lessons fighting on the Eastern Front, and those metal grousers are used to replace random rubber ones to achieve a greater level of traction on Ice/snow/frozen ground.

When the bullets are flying, nobody is going to give two fucks on missing trackpads.

And yes, you can power slide a 60Ton tanks....




Not for the German streets.

Mostly to reduce vibrations and noise and to increase the service life of the tracks. And the handling with rubber tracks is much better.


The modern Russian AFVs are using them too.

https://i.imgur.com/11OqN4k.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qr4J7Q7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kkuQSGd.jpg



You and I will have to agree to disagree on the above.
Link Posted: 11/2/2022 8:14:49 PM EDT
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You and I will have to agree to disagree on the above.
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Care to elaborate?

Link Posted: 11/2/2022 8:37:34 PM EDT
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As good a place for this as any I guess.

Sikorsky and DARPA Autonomous Black Hawk Flies Logistics and Rescue Missions Without Pilots on Board
Link Posted: 11/3/2022 6:18:27 AM EDT
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Greek Leopard 2A6HEL with the gun swapped for an L7 105 mm gun for training - cheaper and allows them to burn through the large stockpile of 105 mm ammunition available.
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Link Posted: 11/3/2022 7:27:53 AM EDT
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Iranian Su-22 drop glide bombs
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Link Posted: 11/3/2022 7:38:41 AM EDT
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As awesome as it looks, I always thought the "arrowhead" look of the Turret Face of the German Leopard 2 might cause the same issue as the Germans experienced with the early Panther Mantlet when a shell hitting the lower half of the turret mantlet would be deflected by the curve of the armor downward from the thick manlet down onto the very thin armor on the top of the drivers hatch deck.

Is this an actual concern on the "arrowhead" Leopard 2s or am I somehow just "overthinking" tank things?

Bigger_Hammer
Link Posted: 11/3/2022 8:01:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:



Is this an actual concern on the "arrowhead" Leopard 2s or am I somehow just "overthinking" tank things?


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No problem. APFSDS and HEAT does not deflect in the same way older AP/HE deflected and the arrowhead is designed to catch the shell, mostly hollow with some NERA plates.
Link Posted: 11/3/2022 8:25:19 AM EDT
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Leo 2 turret with the gun and front spaced armor dismounted, a cross section of the side spaced armor is visible.  The main armor is the boxy shape with vertical sides
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Front sloped spaced armor.  Hollow, fairly thin
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Link Posted: 11/3/2022 8:27:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2022 9:26:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
As good a place for this as any I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYcq_pzLsjA
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Skynet!

What would a wounded person think when he's told that there are no
pilots. The helo is flying itself.
Link Posted: 11/3/2022 10:09:49 AM EDT
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Am I the only one who finds it humorous the Iranians mark their bombs in English?
Link Posted: 11/3/2022 11:09:56 AM EDT
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Am I the only one who finds it humorous the Iranians mark their bombs in English?
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Am I the only one who finds it humorous the Iranians mark their bombs in English?


Negative.



Pongae-5 with Tracked Carrier. Based upon the Songun-Ho, its appearance indicates a common SPG chassis based upon it.






Songun-Ho Based KN-25 showing off the new tank based missile carrier chassis in use by the DPRK, carries 6 600mm Rockets.



Both from best Korea.

Link Posted: 11/3/2022 12:04:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2022 12:40:29 PM EDT
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BMP1 with a GSH-23 gunpod

Afghanistan?

Link Posted: 11/3/2022 12:49:26 PM EDT
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Ukraine's 128th Separate Mountain Assault Brigade photographed in a woodland environment with M113s
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M113 acav 11 ACR "Blackhorse". The 11th Armored Cavalry troops move into position through heavy jungle grass in Vietnam, July 1967 (Al Chang Collection)
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War never changes.
Link Posted: 11/3/2022 4:25:57 PM EDT
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UCV from China

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Cutaway of the Rh 120mm smoothbore cannon. German Tank Museum Munster, Germany

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