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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:39:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Arfcom beats its dick to the idea of a food shortage and will gladly scream “shortage” when the pampered wife can’t get her favorite ________.
And all the while everyone will keep getting fatter. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:45:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chicken, tuna, corned beef, spam, vegis Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is there any kind of long shelf life food that isn't all carbs? Chicken, tuna, corned beef, spam, vegis A lot of canned veggies are still pretty high carb, and not as nutritious as a lot of folks think. One workaround is to grow some low-carb greens like spinach, lettuce, etc. indoors. You can build a setup using a couple LED shop lights, a small fan, and any off the shelf timer for less than a hundred bucks, and have fresh greens through the winter - apocalypse or no. A couple of posts about it in this thread here.  |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:45:50 AM EDT
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Wife and I have been together since 2006. She has played along very minimally with the idea of stocking up (I don't think she ever allowed us to have more than 3 weeks of food). But earlier this year when things starting running out she kinda got mad at me for not being more prepared food storage wise now that we have a toddler even though we sorta have the poor just like almost everybody else. Although we'll never have a bunker or be able to purify our pee for drinking purposes
 I do see us not being so underprepared again.The thing that has helped is that we don't go out and just $$$ on MRE's or survival bars or that crap. We just grab a few extras of whatever it is we're restocking the pantry with and take it to the basement to be put in the rotation. "Prep a little everyday and prep out of piece of mind not out of fear" -Mike w/ Asymmetrical Preparedness |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:48:25 AM EDT
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We shop for 3 weeks. We can quaratine that shit out for 6 weeks if needed . Also still have rice and beans if needed.
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:49:08 AM EDT
[#5]
I run with Mormons.
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:49:51 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not buying into this yet. Maybe you're right... but I'm not doing what I did back in early march again. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don’t trust our governments ability or willingness to stop leftists from making life extremely difficult for Americans. It still, and maybe more every day, seems a good idea to stack food as deep as you can afford. I'm not buying into this yet. Maybe you're right... but I'm not doing what I did back in early march again. If you did it right you should still be eating on March’s haul. 
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:52:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Franks and beans!  |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:53:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Controlling the food supply is probably the most effective, direct way to control human beings. When they want us to comply with something, they will make food scarce. "Wear the mask, or no going into the grocery store." "Get the vaccine, or you can't keep your job or go to school." Eventually it will be: "Submit to the new rulers and bow down and worship them, reject your Christianity, or take a trip to the camps." The masks are evil. They are literally a tool to train people to accept slavery. If only more people could see them for what they are, and where this is all leading us... This is why we should be self-sufficient, live in small, tightly-knit, ideologically homogeneous communities, grow our own food, raise our own animals, and generally not need the government for anything. Self-sufficiency is freedom. Can you get that to fit on a bumper sticker? |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:54:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I run with Mormons. I live in the heart of "Mormonville" and was shocked to learn how UNprepared Mormons real are!! |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:55:23 AM EDT
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We just naturally fell into being stocked up, not sure I would call myself a prepper. Living in Alaska taught us to keep extra stuff on hand cause you never knew what might happen earthquakes, avalanches, blizzards, power outages, etc.
Now in OK its tornadoes, ice storms, etc. The longest we have been trapped at home due to ice is 12 days and a major rain storm took out our bridge one year and we were stuck for several days until the county crews opened another road. Living a few miles in the boonies just forces you to be well stocked. I check dates on everything I buy and reach towards the back for canned goods and buy whatever has the longest expiration date. Our bunker holds the food supply so there is no chance of fire or storm getting it. We could easily go 6 months on what we have, longer if we ration. Plus there is game animals and very few people around. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:56:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Besides war time or the great depression, when has food ever been scarce in the US? Have we ever seen a social and political environment like this? We are sitting on a powder keg of divide and anger just waiting for the right event to set it off. Look at history, it’s full of examples of failed dynasties and societies that were around a helluva lot longer than the US has been. I bet there were plenty of people then when things were going to shit wondering how the Hell it happened. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:56:53 AM EDT
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My wife and I were at Costco a few days ago, and noticed several carts with TP and water.
We didn’t know if it was confirmation bias though. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:57:17 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As long as you're rotating stocks so you're not wasting food/money by throwing stuff away, there's no good reason not to keep an emergency stockpile. None. Even in relatively peaceful times. Exactly What many fail to realize. It’s not like you’re wasting anything. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:59:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there any kind of long shelf life food that isn't all carbs? Shredded, cooked chicken in cans (sort of like tuna). Three year shelf life, maybe longer, and it's pretty good food. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 11:16:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EXACTLY. I was in the middle of the LA Riots, the big earthquake, the fires, and the fucking stores were all open like normal. Yeah, you’re really gonna need 200#s of beans stored up. Fuck, people in Sarajevo probably didnt need it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Besides war time or the great depression, when has food ever been scarce in the US? EXACTLY. I was in the middle of the LA Riots, the big earthquake, the fires, and the fucking stores were all open like normal. Yeah, you’re really gonna need 200#s of beans stored up. Fuck, people in Sarajevo probably didnt need it. We call this post normalcy bias. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 11:24:17 AM EDT
[#16]
Food for you, your family, and anyone who might show up whom you can't turn away. There are a lot of people I will turn away but my parents and my young local nephews and nieces aren't those people so we have stocked extra.
People will be shocked at how quickly the shelves will empty when teotwawki comes. There will be a lot of starving pilgrams out there, don't be one of them. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 11:40:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EXACTLY. I was in the middle of the LA Riots, the big earthquake, the fires, and the fucking stores were all open like normal. Yeah, you’re really gonna need 200#s of beans stored up. Fuck, people in Sarajevo probably didnt need it. I was in Sarajevo in the 1990s. None of the Bosnians who lived through the siege eats rice now. Three guesses as to why. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 11:40:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I live in the heart of "Mormonville" and was shocked to learn how UNprepared Mormons real are!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I run with Mormons. I live in the heart of "Mormonville" and was shocked to learn how UNprepared Mormons real are!! Yeah I was a bit caught off guard on that too. Lots of people just assumed it was all the transplants that were unprepared for some of shortages over this past year. Based on some of the conversations I had with folks in the neighborhood that wasn't necessarily the case. For lots of them their food storage consisted of a couple food storage kits from the local storehouse. Those usually consist basic items like rice, beans, flour and powdered milk in 5lb cans. 
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Posted: 11/1/2020 11:46:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there any kind of long shelf life food that isn't all carbs? Beans. If you have to devolve to rice/bean diet, guarantee you that carb weight gain is the last problem you’re gonna have |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 11:51:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: I don’t trust our governments ability or willingness to stop leftists from making life extremely difficult for Americans. It still, and maybe more every day, seems a good idea to stack food as deep as you can afford. A word to the wise is sufficient. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 11:51:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of canned veggies are still pretty high carb, and not as nutritious as a lot of folks think. One workaround is to grow some low-carb greens like spinach, lettuce, etc. indoors. You can build a setup using a couple LED shop lights, a small fan, and any off the shelf timer for less than a hundred bucks, and have fresh greens through the winter - apocalypse or no. A couple of posts about it in this thread here. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219829/both-1294409.png Yeah, but Walmart... |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 11:55:56 AM EDT
[#22]
I have 60 lbs of Italian beef and 128 French Loaves if the shit hits the fan
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:02:59 PM EDT
[#23]
Always good to have extra
Also a water pump |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:03:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Beans. If you have to devolve to rice/bean diet, guarantee you that carb weight gain is the last problem you’re gonna have I’ve done pretty well returning to carbs by just being active & going at least 16 hours between dinner & breakfast. On days I don’t do much I always do a set of goblet or air squats, overhead press, pushups, pull-ups or 30-60 seconds of any other intense exercise after eating & have kept within 5lbs of my low carb weight. If you don’t move all those carbs turn to fat. Burn ‘em up. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:07:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: I don’t trust our governments ability or willingness to stop leftists from making life extremely difficult for Americans. It still, and maybe more every day, seems a good idea to stack food as deep as you can afford. Wife takes care of that and is on point. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:08:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Always good to have extra Also a water pump Some type of high quality filter and/or a solar still. If you’re drinking distilled or filtered water & eating stored food it would be a good idea to also have minerals. Pink salt, baking soda & Magnesium powder will keep your electrolyte levels in good shape. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:11:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interestingly enough the wife and I were talking about this after a trip to Costco today. Saw no less than 10 freezers go out the door during that time. Pretty much every single cart had TP, paper towels and several cases of water. Lots of rice, beans and flour too. Checked stock on those items as we wandered and sure enough it didn't look like there was enough to last the rest of the day. We're pretty well stocked, but the wife agreed to spend some time down in our storage to inventory, organize and see what we can bulk up on. Definitely planning on grabbing more rice, beans, yeast and flour. ETA: Our SHTF stuff is separate from our 'regular' food storage. We have a bunch of the freeze dried buckets (think Wise Company, Patriot Supply, etc.) that are strictly grab n go designated. Go bags are packed with MREs as well, we could go 30-45 days on what we have in grab n go gear depending on how far we want to stretch things. This makes it easier to rotate stock around, since we're more apt to buy the type of stuff we'll typically use for food storage. Rumor has it that as soon as the election is over they are going to lock it all down again. Especially if Biden wins. And this lockdown will last until March-April. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:14:31 PM EDT
[#28]
I just went through my pantry the other day. We're good for months, for the most part. Add in the extra fridge and chest freezer, and we're good to go.
Don't forget spices! |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:14:50 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tastes like chicken. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: fun fact of the day: squirrels are edible. Tastes like chicken. Greasy... |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:15:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumor has it that as soon as the election is over they are going to lock it all down again. Especially if Biden wins. And this lockdown will last until March-April. Lockdown schmockdown,, rules are for suckers |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:15:56 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We're on the brink of war + depression. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Besides war time or the great depression, when has food ever been scarce in the US? We're on the brink of war + depression. If dipsticks are so short sighted that they cannot see the forest for the trees, let them suffer the consequences.. For years I told people to put back, food, water, ammo, tools, med, etc. To be self reliant and resourceful. A large part of this is simply being raised in the rural west, where family ranches and farms have historically fended for themselves, and communities tend to be tight knit, not really expecting much from the .gov. Being self reliant has simply been a way of life. The mentality is completely lost on 90+% of the metro living, Subaru driving hipster crowd. If the store shelves are bare and they all of the sudden start bitching (much like this last ammo panic), I have absolutely ZERO empathy for them. It is not like the storm clouds were not on the horizon for months and months.. ZFG. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:16:19 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lady Rodent says I'm paranoid for stocking up, but at some level I think she's glad I do. Mine said the same thing until shit got scarce during covid. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:17:19 PM EDT
[#33]
I know where the zoo is.
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:22:35 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rumor has it that as soon as the election is over they are going to lock it all down again. Especially if Biden wins. And this lockdown will last until March-April. I don't think COVID will be the reason people are hunkering down after the election. Regardless of who wins. I don't see either side accepting an opposition win quietly. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:22:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh forgot about 16 cans of gas, 3 generators and 4 solar units that are portable. 200k ammo in all calibers Ive been prepping for a while ETA: 10 tanks of propane Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have enough frozen pizzas, ammo, and genny fuel to last through the dark winter. 200k ammo in all calibers Ive been prepping for a while ETA: 10 tanks of propane You forgot your awesome fleet of 2 wheeled Stealth fighters. 
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:24:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally convinced my better half. Picked up 75# morevrice and 15# more beans today. Imagine needing permission from someone to spend $50 |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:29:05 PM EDT
[#37]
Went to BJs today to do my normal bi monthly stock up. People are already starting to go full retard again. I arrived when they opened and by the time I was done getting my stuff the line was to the back of the store. Toilet paper about half stocked.
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:36:40 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Went to BJs today to do my normal bi monthly stock up. People are already starting to go full retard again. I arrived when they opened and by the time I was done getting my stuff the line was to the back of the store. Toilet paper about half stocked. It's late in the game to be rushing the stores now. 
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:52:04 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a fucking trap. Don’t leave your family. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like the left has set a date.
It’s a fucking trap. Don’t leave your family. A few days ago, I told them at work that I probably won't know if I'll show up on Wednesday, or not, until Wednesday morning. The work commute is 90 to 100 miles, round trip, with the majority of that being crossing a blue county. Thursday, the boss's wife got cussed out while she was checking their mailbox, because somebody that happened to be driving by was so offended by the Trump sign in the yard and Trump flag hanging by the door, that they had to stop and call her every name they could think of. A couple days before that, the boss made a joke about needing me to come over to his house and guard it, then pulled out his phone and showed me a picture of the sign and flag. I said "been nice knowing you" and walked off (not sure how he took my joke, but I haven't been fired, yet). |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 12:55:50 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's late in the game to be rushing the stores now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Went to BJs today to do my normal bi monthly stock up. People are already starting to go full retard again. I arrived when they opened and by the time I was done getting my stuff the line was to the back of the store. Toilet paper about half stocked. It's late in the game to be rushing the stores now. People doing people stuff. Show me one single hurricane or snowstorm without an accompanying news story about empty store shelves when the storm is knockin' on the door. And these are in storm-prone areas where people have most likely been through it time and time again. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:00:21 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I was a bit caught off guard on that too. Lots of people just assumed it was all the transplants that were unprepared for some of shortages over this past year. Based on some of the conversations I had with folks in the neighborhood that wasn't necessarily the case. For lots of them their food storage consisted of a couple food storage kits from the local storehouse. Those usually consist basic items like rice, beans, flour and powdered milk in 5lb cans. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I run with Mormons. I live in the heart of "Mormonville" and was shocked to learn how UNprepared Mormons real are!! Yeah I was a bit caught off guard on that too. Lots of people just assumed it was all the transplants that were unprepared for some of shortages over this past year. Based on some of the conversations I had with folks in the neighborhood that wasn't necessarily the case. For lots of them their food storage consisted of a couple food storage kits from the local storehouse. Those usually consist basic items like rice, beans, flour and powdered milk in 5lb cans. I was walking into Costco to get a prescription on Friday when the mass text alert went out limiting social gatherings again and figured I better grab a flat cart and get more stuff while I could. As far as TP and bottled water they only had what was on the ground and the storage area behind there and maybe a pallet or two in the second shelf. TP and paper towels were gone when my inlaws went on Saturday for their normal Costco run... Most of the water was gone too. LOTS of the food stuff was still well in stock. It boggles my mind that people are still going all out of TP but not food! |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:02:02 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And what are y'all gonna do when your food stores run out? I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but you need to think beyond that. Think of what you can grow and harvest in your yard, or even your own house/apartment. Things like alfalfa sprouts are delicious, nutritious, and can be grown indoors with only water. Make sure you can harvest seeds from your crop, this means no hybrids, as usually hybrids seeds are infertile. Think beyond two months, and no, its unlikely *most* of you will find a deer, or return from looking for one if a civil war or something big does happen. It's funny that I was told store bought watermelons are sterile too. I then grew three generations of watermelons in my backyard from one store bought watermelon seed. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:05:48 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I live in the heart of "Mormonville" and was shocked to learn how UNprepared Mormons real are!! One of my best friends is a Mo, and that muthafucka is wired tight with YEARS of preps already in place, and this is from back before it was the cool thing to do. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:06:00 PM EDT
[#44]
I’m trying to stock up fine wine. But someone keeps drinking it as fast as I’m buying it...
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:08:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:10:20 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's funny that I was told store bought watermelons are sterile too. I then grew three generations of watermelons in my backyard from one store bought watermelon seed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And what are y'all gonna do when your food stores run out? I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but you need to think beyond that. Think of what you can grow and harvest in your yard, or even your own house/apartment. Things like alfalfa sprouts are delicious, nutritious, and can be grown indoors with only water. Make sure you can harvest seeds from your crop, this means no hybrids, as usually hybrids seeds are infertile. Think beyond two months, and no, its unlikely *most* of you will find a deer, or return from looking for one if a civil war or something big does happen. It's funny that I was told store bought watermelons are sterile too. I then grew three generations of watermelons in my backyard from one store bought watermelon seed. They're not necessarily infertile, but can't be counted on to breed true with the same characteristics of the parent plant. Sometimes the results are acceptable, sometimes not. Most often "not". |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:12:34 PM EDT
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Not worried, there are plenty of people around to eat. I’ll just scavenge the battleground for fresh belt feds and long pork.
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:15:21 PM EDT
[#48]
Better to be prepared and have it just in case. In the end you'll rotate it out and eat it sooner or later. No loss either way.
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:16:32 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I got my wife to stock up before the Covid panic hit. We have used some of it cause we bought most of what we use. I can’t convince her again due to the election.  Sell her on the point she saved money then and can again. I didn't ask. I just did it. Later they were glad I did and kids followed suit. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:19:55 PM EDT
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Better to have it and not need it than the other way around.
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