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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:11:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paulie771: Damn. These are pretty nice rifles for that area of the world, I'd guess. Are the shooters generally trained well enough to use them to their potential or are they just the first/strongest guys to get to them? https://www.calibreobscura.com/content/images/2019/05/ApplicationFrameHost_2019-05-22_23-35-09.png https://www.calibreobscura.com/content/images/2019/05/ApplicationFrameHost_2019-05-22_23-35-27.png I have never yet seen them in use with ISWA, luckily. The group has never really developed any kind of sniper training or use it seems, even SVD which they've captured don't really show up. Closest I saw recently was a JAS (Different branch of Boko Haram, not the same as IS) showing off an SVD. https://twitter.com/CalibreObscura/status/1341115058731036678 |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 7:50:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paulie771: Damn. These are pretty nice rifles for that area of the world, I'd guess. Are the shooters generally trained well enough to use them to their potential or are they just the first/strongest guys to get to them? https://www.calibreobscura.com/content/images/2019/05/ApplicationFrameHost_2019-05-22_23-35-09.png https://www.calibreobscura.com/content/images/2019/05/ApplicationFrameHost_2019-05-22_23-35-27.png An Armalite SuperSASS, I didn't think I'd see a rifle that I own here. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 10:23:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CalibreObscura: Hello Guys (Made an account for this) I notice many of the pictures here are "nabbed" from my Twitter feed (Here: CalibreObscura), which is absolutely fine as information wants to be free. Small Arms in the Middle East is my focus, and there is a tremendous variety, complexity and local peculiarities involved. I go into substantially more detail on my website. This one is one of my favourites on the Baloch Insurgents: https://i.imgur.com/mU0MuNL.jpg https://www.calibreobscura.com/insurgents-in-the-mountains-arms-of-baloch-seperatist-bla-bras/ If there is any detail you are interested in- prices, names, sourcing, local availability, trends etc do feel free to ask. interestingly enough I was already following you, not via this username of course |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 10:40:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: An FN 1900 in 32ACP on sale in #Iraq. It appears to be the 1900-1903 produced version. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb_NIrIXgAUJQjx?format=jpg&name=medium For an excellent rundown on how it came about click below. link Short version: one of three competitors (luger/mauser/browning) in the attempt to be the first military semi auto pistol. looks like ammo is hard to find over there too. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 11:42:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CalibreObscura: Hello Guys (Made an account for this) I notice many of the pictures here are "nabbed" from my Twitter feed (Here: CalibreObscura), which is absolutely fine as information wants to be free. Small Arms in the Middle East is my focus, and there is a tremendous variety, complexity and local peculiarities involved. I go into substantially more detail on my website. This one is one of my favourites on the Baloch Insurgents: https://i.imgur.com/mU0MuNL.jpg https://www.calibreobscura.com/insurgents-in-the-mountains-arms-of-baloch-seperatist-bla-bras/ If there is any detail you are interested in- prices, names, sourcing, local availability, trends etc do feel free to ask. 
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Posted: 1/8/2021 12:30:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CherokeeRose: looks like ammo is hard to find over there too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CherokeeRose: Originally Posted By 58Teague: An FN 1900 in 32ACP on sale in #Iraq. It appears to be the 1900-1903 produced version. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb_NIrIXgAUJQjx?format=jpg&name=medium For an excellent rundown on how it came about click below. link Short version: one of three competitors (luger/mauser/browning) in the attempt to be the first military semi auto pistol. looks like ammo is hard to find over there too. If you don't care about corrosive primers and don't care about legalities of making explosives reloading berdan primers isn't hard. Neither is making smokeless gunpowder, but for as little as their shooting these pistols, homemade BP works fine too. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 11:24:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CalibreObscura: Hello Guys (Made an account for this) I notice many of the pictures here are "nabbed" from my Twitter feed (Here: CalibreObscura), which is absolutely fine as information wants to be free. Small Arms in the Middle East is my focus, and there is a tremendous variety, complexity and local peculiarities involved. I go into substantially more detail on my website. This one is one of my favourites on the Baloch Insurgents: https://i.imgur.com/mU0MuNL.jpg https://www.calibreobscura.com/insurgents-in-the-mountains-arms-of-baloch-seperatist-bla-bras/ If there is any detail you are interested in- prices, names, sourcing, local availability, trends etc do feel free to ask. Educate a guy here, how did you figure out the pics were nabbed from your twitter feed? |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 11:48:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2021 12:00:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2021 12:07:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2021 12:27:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Off the top of my head I want to say 73mm SPG-9, answer for sure in the CAR report linked EDIT: I edited the post with more info They are used in the SPG-9, or the BMP-1 73mm gun with the addition of a a screw in booster to replace the normal propellant. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:07:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: @calibreobscura Did a Boys AT rifle ever show up after these mags were posted in Idlib for it? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/405668/boysAT11_png-1769709.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/405668/boysAT21_png-1769711.JPG http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Boys-AT-Rifle.jpg Not yet. Although I think some locally made AMR may use mags copied from these. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Probably because I said where I got them in the first sentence of the first post? @calibreobscura welcome! Hope you stick around. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Originally Posted By 2tired2run: Educate a guy here, how did you figure out the pics were nabbed from your twitter feed? Probably because I said where I got them in the first sentence of the first post? @calibreobscura welcome! Hope you stick around. Doh  ....missed that. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 3:06:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:50:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:57:56 PM EDT
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Those launchers look a lot like the old Irish PRIG
Also, in the 2nd photo it looks like they have a counter projectile coming out the rear, just like how the PRIG is described in media today. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/13/iras-recoilless-improvised-grenade-launcher/amp https://youtu.be/ocrDDxV1cCo |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 7:00:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/9/2021 5:09:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Something extremely unusual captured in Bani Na'im, West Bank, 2017. 2 WW2 Lee–Enfield No. 4 Mk1/2 .303 Bolt Action Rifles, converted to fire 5.56mm ammunition from 20rnd M16 Magazines! Trijicon ACOGs have been crudely welded to the rifles. IDF Slings & Ammo box can be seen too.-CalibreObscura https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dv7S9nYW0AIxnK3?format=jpg&name=large 
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Posted: 1/10/2021 11:11:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/10/2021 11:40:22 AM EDT
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I would think that there's need to be a wad under the rockeye submunition so the expanding powder gas wouldn't try to spin or otherwise mess up the tail vanes/fuse?
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Posted: 1/10/2021 12:28:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590: I would think that there's need to be a wad under the rockeye submunition so the expanding powder gas wouldn't try to spin or otherwise mess up the tail vanes/fuse? I wonder what powder they're using between the projectiles? Could be reclaimed powder from whatever munitions they have on hand, or it could simply be black powder. I remember the Palestinians used BP for their RPG-2 clones. |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 2:04:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: Some of the decoys and fake guns IS used https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPZKAOZXkAEP3Hq?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPZKDjlW4AA-Hcp?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPZKGleX0AIfBq2?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn5eGJjXgAAexsN?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn5eHQGWgAAbGAT?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxAB9WdXcAAT6J8?format=jpg&name=mediumhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxAB9sPWQAAp_nd?format=jpg&name=mediumhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxAB9-PXgAAqEl7?format=jpg&name=mediumhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxAB-KMWQAAGkiN?format=jpg&name=medium 2 LMG mockups https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C48L2GzWMAAt6nT?format=jpg&name=large Your backyard range could use a few of those! |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 2:16:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/10/2021 7:11:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: @XNARC do you remember if you came across any prices for guns back then? Or was it all just captures that were logged then stored? Curious to see if anything's changed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: @XNARC do you remember if you came across any prices for guns back then? Or was it all just captures that were logged then stored? Curious to see if anything's changed. Those Pakistani mp5s....there was said to be a bunker of them or a warehouse maybe Camp Dublin, that no one wanted because they were thought to be knockoffs...as it turns out they were better than expected and under license from HK. I think we’re were five or six cases in before our point of contact with big army found out and kept them for themselves. On the economy, not the black market, but gun dealers, that ran around 300US, but that was even negotiable. M1 carbines around 150US, but couldn’t find ammo. British Stens...probably knockoffs 150US, Colt 1911 38 supers 200US, but again, the ammo.... greatly. Kalashnikovs were 20 bucks and up, depending on variants. If we asked for any, big army was pushing to get rid of stockpiles of a cheap plastic variant...no one liked them. For guys that worked around us, it was easier to pay 30 bucks for a good workhouse one, from a dealer |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 7:30:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Apec: Your backyard range could use a few of those! Sell to a liberal city gun-buy back for lulz. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 11:32:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2021 12:36:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2021 12:56:21 PM EDT
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M1926 Hotchkiss LMG's
  Vickers Berthiers and a ZB26  RPD's  Stens, Grease guns, a few Port Saids, and a couple of Hotchkiss Universals 
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Posted: 1/11/2021 1:15:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2021 1:41:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Villafuego: M1926 Hotchkiss LMG's https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/55482/CFD0213-47-1774843.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/55482/CFD0213-48-1774844.jpg Vickers Berthiers and a ZB26 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/55482/CFD0213-44-1774845.jpg RPD's https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/55482/CFD0213-1-1774847.jpg Stens, Grease guns, a few Port Saids, and a couple of Hotchkiss Universals https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/55482/CFD0213-2-1774851.jpg Over the years have come across several 1926 Hotchkiss's in Afghanistan but never in that quantity! (Turkish contracts in 7.9x57) CD |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:54:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:05:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2021 8:59:21 AM EDT
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I’m waiting for these gunsmiths to clone this
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Posted: 1/16/2021 10:28:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: You do you Iraq. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405668/BubbaIraq_jpg-1781171.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405668/BubbaIraq2_jpg-1781172.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405668/BubbaIraq3_jpg-1781173.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405668/BubbaIraq4_jpg-1781174.JPG gonna need EXIF data to confirm these werent taken at some fudd gunshow in the midwest 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:27:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: This M56A1 went from US to Tito under US-Yugo 1951 mil. assistance agrmnt, survived Yugoslav wars, ended up in Syria. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/405668/Screenshot_20201231211157_png-1757741.JPG Another MDAA linked mortar crate was found by @Ruptly camera in Aleppo in Sep. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/405668/Screenshot_20201231211225_png-1757744.JPG https://youtu.be/UazpXB32nZQ The other way around. This was made in Yugoslavia (procured in Yugoslavia) and placed in NATO strategic reserves. Along with 12.7mm bullet and 105mm shells, during the Mutual Defense Assistance agreement. I found out about this on a Serbian military forum. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:52:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:30:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2021 9:14:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 58Teague: You do you Iraq. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405668/BubbaIraq_jpg-1781171.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405668/BubbaIraq2_jpg-1781172.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405668/BubbaIraq3_jpg-1781173.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/405668/BubbaIraq4_jpg-1781174.JPG What’s the last one? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 9:23:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/17/2021 10:56:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2021 12:27:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2021 12:50:20 PM EDT
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Those guys making mortar shells are going to be pissed when OSHA fines them/their worker's comp premiums increase.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 1:01:10 PM EDT
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