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Posted: 1/4/2021 8:48:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not sure what you mean by “if everything went perfectly there would be no stories to tell,” but I was referring specifically to your “outstanding storytelling” claim. The climax of this season’s story saw our two middle aged protagonists join forces to beat up a 75 year old man. It seemed comical when it should have been dramatic. Personally I don’t think that qualifies as “outstanding storytelling.” YMMV. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: NO SPOILERS! How is season 3? If you liked S1 and S2 you'll almost certainly find it at least "watchable," but I think it is easily the worst season so far. If S1 is an A and S2 is a B+, S3 is a B. I think they’re victims of their own success. Lots of scrutiny and people wanting to attach their names to the production. The story is solid, just not as moving and impactful as the first seasons. Really though, they are only competing against themselves. It’s still outstanding storytelling. https://media4.giphy.com/media/VcWnY3R6YWVtC/giphy.gif Yeah, well. We have our preferences. If everything went perfectly there would be no stories to tell. I’m not sure what you mean by “if everything went perfectly there would be no stories to tell,” but I was referring specifically to your “outstanding storytelling” claim. The climax of this season’s story saw our two middle aged protagonists join forces to beat up a 75 year old man. It seemed comical when it should have been dramatic. Personally I don’t think that qualifies as “outstanding storytelling.” YMMV. The Kreese arc and all of the arcs should have ended with season 3. The Kreese flashbacks should have been nothing more than him getting recruited to play karate, winning tournaments, getting discharged without ever seeing action. It would make a helluva lot more sense for the character. The Vietnam scenes were comically bad. |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 8:54:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Haha, good point. Didn't register while watching I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Shue is pushing 60. Mrs. LaRusso is pushing 40. Haha, good point. Didn't register while watching I guess. That was impressive. Not many actresses could be brought back to play a part from 40 year prior and be able to pull off a viable love triangle / interest against gals 20 years younger. |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 9:20:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone else notice that Daniel's son is now skinny? He only had one brief scene. Why are they writing out the people who lost weight?  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The writers didn't know what to do with the character so they wrote her off the show. They said she moved away after the "karate gang war" (or whatever). Apparently the actress lost a lot of weight too. And where was he in the last episode? Wouldn't he have been at home? |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 9:25:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Kreese arc and all of the arcs should have ended with season 3. The Kreese flashbacks should have been nothing more than him getting recruited to play karate, winning tournaments, getting discharged without ever seeing action. It would make a helluva lot more sense for the character. The Vietnam scenes were comically bad. 100% concur |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 9:28:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the success of Cobra Kai I wonder if they have plans to do a new series with any other 80s nostalgic movies? I was trying to think of a movie you could do this with but am drawing a blank.......it would need to be iconic like KK but also be able to bring back the old cast. Maybe Ferris Bueller? I was talking about this very thing recently. I bet there’s a whole lot of one-dimensional 80s characters that could benefit from this treatment - intelligent stories given to characters that had zero development in the movies they were in. |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 9:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the success of Cobra Kai I wonder if they have plans to do a new series with any other 80s nostalgic movies? I was trying to think of a movie you could do this with but am drawing a blank.......it would need to be iconic like KK but also be able to bring back the old cast. Maybe Ferris Bueller? https://mobile.twitter.com/jonhurwitz/status/1259363185879990273 |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 9:34:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So few good shows for me, honestly. You're spot on with GOT, and I did the same thing. Well, might as well finish it I guess. Last season was ..... well, I'm sure you know. The rest all just run together. There's probably over 500 TV shows now, I'm about done with it all. I literally just cancelled - YouTube TV, Netlflix and Hulu last night. Kept Prime for shipping and got some jail broken Fire stick thing someone gave me that works pretty well, fuck it. Thanks you just reminded me, Mandalorian is over I need to cancel Disney tonight now that Verizon isn’t picking up the tab before the billing cycle starts next week |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 9:47:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the success of Cobra Kai I wonder if they have plans to do a new series with any other 80s nostalgic movies? I was trying to think of a movie you could do this with but am drawing a blank.......it would need to be iconic like KK but also be able to bring back the old cast. Maybe Ferris Bueller? Cobra Kai has a little magic to it that goes beyond nostalgia. I think it is that William Zabka is a charismatic actor that fits perfectly into the role. Regardless of the fact that he was in the original KK another actor probably could not have pulled it off. Nostalgia by itself won't do it. There needs to be something else and CK has it. |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 9:51:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cobra Kai has a little magic to it that goes beyond nostalgia. I think it is that William Zabka is a charismatic actor that fits perfectly into the role. Regardless of the fact that he was in the original KK another actor probably could not have pulled it off. Nostalgia by itself won't do it. There needs to be something else and CK has it. I agree with this 100%. |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 10:15:29 PM EDT
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What is this "after party" you guys are talking about? I can't find it on Netflix. Is it the one that starts with David Spade at a vending machine?
ETA: Found it. |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 11:34:13 PM EDT
[#11]
Season 1 > Season 3 > Season 2
the Kreese Vietnam flashbacks were ridiculous from a actual historical perspective but from a "hollywood" version of history kind of cool I liked the how the Ali storyline was handled, it brought to mind a Gordon Lightfoot lyric "A movie queen to play the scene, Of bringing all the good things out in me" Demitri was actually halfway likeable this season I'll watch season 4 whenever it comes out |
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Posted: 1/4/2021 11:48:02 PM EDT
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Demitri was actually halfway likeable this season. I spent the interim between 2 and 3 hoping that Hawk would beat the crap out of Demetri. I felt kinda bad when he actually did. Kinda.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:36:20 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And where was he in the last episode? Wouldn't he have been at home? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The writers didn't know what to do with the character so they wrote her off the show. They said she moved away after the "karate gang war" (or whatever). Apparently the actress lost a lot of weight too. And where was he in the last episode? Wouldn't he have been at home?  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:42:28 AM EDT
[#14]
@CarmelBytheSea
Thanks for all the extra input. Kinda soothes the wait for S4. Hope all goes well for you. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 1:19:46 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The creators have said they’ve mapped out 6 seasons. Freaking awesome if they did. Taken over as my favorite show. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 2:12:44 AM EDT
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During the home invasion was anyone else kinda hoping there was going to be a critical moment in the fight and then in strolls Robbie like Anakin marching into the Jedi temple?
The Miyagi-Do kids think he's there to help them and then...  I mean, yeah, it probably would have been too soon for Robbie to go full dark side, but it could have made for a cool scene. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 4:47:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was talking about this very thing recently. I bet there’s a whole lot of one-dimensional 80s characters that could benefit from this treatment - intelligent stories given to characters that had zero development in the movies they were in. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: With the success of Cobra Kai I wonder if they have plans to do a new series with any other 80s nostalgic movies? I was trying to think of a movie you could do this with but am drawing a blank.......it would need to be iconic like KK but also be able to bring back the old cast. Maybe Ferris Bueller? I was talking about this very thing recently. I bet there’s a whole lot of one-dimensional 80s characters that could benefit from this treatment - intelligent stories given to characters that had zero development in the movies they were in. They already did the Rocky/Creed/Drago thing. And that’s digging past the 80s into the mid 70s for its start. Die Hard and Lethal Weapon went well on past anything to work with now, and the Alien, Terminator, and Predator franchises were buggered into the ground. I would rather have seen Mel Gibson as a 60 year old Max having to take a security force of road warriors he brought up to protect the little civilization he started with the kids than what we got with Fury Road. Off the top of my head I’m not sure what’s left. Bring back Jason Gedrick and Louis Gosser jr. in some kind of Iron Eagle sequel where Doug Masters Jr. is shot down and captured and they get some outdated aircraft and go spring him? |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 7:08:39 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bring back Jason Gedrick and Louis Gosser jr. in some kind of Iron Eagle sequel where Doug Masters Jr. is shot down and captured and they get some outdated aircraft and go spring him? I’m pretty sure they already did that.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 8:26:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They already did the Rocky/Creed/Drago thing. And that’s digging past the 80s into the mid 70s for its start. Die Hard and Lethal Weapon went well on past anything to work with now, and the Alien, Terminator, and Predator franchises were buggered into the ground. I would rather have seen Mel Gibson as a 60 year old Max having to take a security force of road warriors he brought up to protect the little civilization he started with the kids than what we got with Fury Road. Off the top of my head I’m not sure what’s left. Bring back Jason Gedrick and Louis Gosser jr. in some kind of Iron Eagle sequel where Doug Masters Jr. is shot down and captured and they get some outdated aircraft and go spring him? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: With the success of Cobra Kai I wonder if they have plans to do a new series with any other 80s nostalgic movies? I was trying to think of a movie you could do this with but am drawing a blank.......it would need to be iconic like KK but also be able to bring back the old cast. Maybe Ferris Bueller? I was talking about this very thing recently. I bet there’s a whole lot of one-dimensional 80s characters that could benefit from this treatment - intelligent stories given to characters that had zero development in the movies they were in. They already did the Rocky/Creed/Drago thing. And that’s digging past the 80s into the mid 70s for its start. Die Hard and Lethal Weapon went well on past anything to work with now, and the Alien, Terminator, and Predator franchises were buggered into the ground. I would rather have seen Mel Gibson as a 60 year old Max having to take a security force of road warriors he brought up to protect the little civilization he started with the kids than what we got with Fury Road. Off the top of my head I’m not sure what’s left. Bring back Jason Gedrick and Louis Gosser jr. in some kind of Iron Eagle sequel where Doug Masters Jr. is shot down and captured and they get some outdated aircraft and go spring him? Plenty of other properties ... I specifically was thinking of Ivan Drago from the Rocky franchise though. A completely one dimensional construct that could have some very interesting stories if they do it right. As much as I love them, 80s movies are rife with one dimensional major characters, both good and bad. How about a show surrounding the events of The Last Starfighter? Some motivation for Sho’Nuff from The Last Dragon? Biff Tannen? Roy Batty? Khaaaaaaaannnn? Edit: before anyone says “I have no interest in those properties...” remember, at one point Karate Kid was just 3 movies (1.5 of them beloved) from the 80s too. a rich story to tell and Zabka absolutely crushing the role made us fans again. There is opportunity here. And the above is by no means a complete list, I’ve just been itching for a Last Starfighter update/expansion pretty much since then. I love that movie, warts and all. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 9:06:38 AM EDT
[#20]
Just watched the last two episodes last night.
My god those Vietnam scenes were ridiculous, even for Hollywood standards. Elizabeth Shue was a treat. If I was Johnny I would dump the Hispanic chick for her in a heartbeat. The fight scene was contrived as hell. However, all in all I like the season. Very enjoyable story. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 9:40:40 AM EDT
[#21]
We turned Netflix back on just for it, binge watched over the weekend. I agree on the Vietnam scenes, it was not needed or at least not done well. I still feel zero for d-bag though he did somehow take care of uber d-bag trying to corner the girl into sex for rent. I also don't know how Johnny raised the money after step dad turned him down, I am assuming he finally got pawn dude to buy whatever that thing was he took. Over all I love this show, seems like they have disagreeing or different writers but it is still quirky and full of 80's stuff and it is good fun away from a mad mad world. The part I do disagree with others is he did the right thing by not sleeping with Ali and returning to the neighbor lady. He has had enough booty calls and needs a good woman to stick around.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 9:42:06 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shue is pushing 60. Mrs. LaRusso is pushing 40. Shue is still a GILF |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 9:51:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shue is still a GILF Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Shue is pushing 60. Mrs. LaRusso is pushing 40. Shue is still a GILF 60?? Damn, she keeping it TIGHT! |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 9:56:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edit: before anyone says “I have no interest in those properties...” remember, at one point Karate Kid was just 3 movies (1.5 of them beloved) from the 80s too. a rich story to tell and Zabka absolutely crushing the role made us fans again. There is opportunity here. And the above is by no means a complete list, I’ve just been itching for a Last Starfighter update/expansion pretty much since then. I love that movie, warts and all. I never liked KK or Ralf Maccio. I remember taking my GF to see it in the theater. I actually walked out 20 minutes in and hung with some buddies at the arcade instead. She was pissed. I only saw bits and pieces of 2 & 3 over the years as well. Started watching this and love it. I'm sure it is mainly for the '80s nostalgia and the fact that I can relate to Lawrence in so many ways. Hell, I might even check out the movies now. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 10:09:40 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell, I might even check out the movies now. They’re available on Amazon Prime for free even without a subscribtion (it has ads though). |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:04:10 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They’re available on Amazon Prime for free even without a subscribtion (it has ads though). Thanks. Episode 5 with Chozen has me wanting to watch KK2 now. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:24:08 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 60?? Damn, she keeping it TIGHT! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Shue is pushing 60. Mrs. LaRusso is pushing 40. Shue is still a GILF 60?? Damn, she keeping it TIGHT! close, 57 |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:37:40 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They already did the Rocky/Creed/Drago thing. And that’s digging past the 80s into the mid 70s for its start. Die Hard and Lethal Weapon went well on past anything to work with now, and the Alien, Terminator, and Predator franchises were buggered into the ground. I would rather have seen Mel Gibson as a 60 year old Max having to take a security force of road warriors he brought up to protect the little civilization he started with the kids than what we got with Fury Road. Off the top of my head I’m not sure what’s left. Bring back Jason Gedrick and Louis Gosser jr. in some kind of Iron Eagle sequel where Doug Masters Jr. is shot down and captured and they get some outdated aircraft and go spring him? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: With the success of Cobra Kai I wonder if they have plans to do a new series with any other 80s nostalgic movies? I was trying to think of a movie you could do this with but am drawing a blank.......it would need to be iconic like KK but also be able to bring back the old cast. Maybe Ferris Bueller? I was talking about this very thing recently. I bet there’s a whole lot of one-dimensional 80s characters that could benefit from this treatment - intelligent stories given to characters that had zero development in the movies they were in. They already did the Rocky/Creed/Drago thing. And that’s digging past the 80s into the mid 70s for its start. Die Hard and Lethal Weapon went well on past anything to work with now, and the Alien, Terminator, and Predator franchises were buggered into the ground. I would rather have seen Mel Gibson as a 60 year old Max having to take a security force of road warriors he brought up to protect the little civilization he started with the kids than what we got with Fury Road. Off the top of my head I’m not sure what’s left. Bring back Jason Gedrick and Louis Gosser jr. in some kind of Iron Eagle sequel where Doug Masters Jr. is shot down and captured and they get some outdated aircraft and go spring him? They already brought Doug back in Iron Eagle 4, and he used a shotgun to steal an F16. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:40:42 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Kreese arc and all of the arcs should have ended with season 3. The Kreese flashbacks should have been nothing more than him getting recruited to play karate, winning tournaments, getting discharged without ever seeing action. It would make a helluva lot more sense for the character. The Vietnam scenes were comically bad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: NO SPOILERS! How is season 3? If you liked S1 and S2 you'll almost certainly find it at least "watchable," but I think it is easily the worst season so far. If S1 is an A and S2 is a B+, S3 is a B. I think they’re victims of their own success. Lots of scrutiny and people wanting to attach their names to the production. The story is solid, just not as moving and impactful as the first seasons. Really though, they are only competing against themselves. It’s still outstanding storytelling. https://media4.giphy.com/media/VcWnY3R6YWVtC/giphy.gif Yeah, well. We have our preferences. If everything went perfectly there would be no stories to tell. I’m not sure what you mean by “if everything went perfectly there would be no stories to tell,” but I was referring specifically to your “outstanding storytelling” claim. The climax of this season’s story saw our two middle aged protagonists join forces to beat up a 75 year old man. It seemed comical when it should have been dramatic. Personally I don’t think that qualifies as “outstanding storytelling.” YMMV. The Kreese arc and all of the arcs should have ended with season 3. The Kreese flashbacks should have been nothing more than him getting recruited to play karate, winning tournaments, getting discharged without ever seeing action. It would make a helluva lot more sense for the character. The Vietnam scenes were comically bad. I thought the Vietnam flashbacks were cool in a vacuum but agree it would've made more sense for Kreese to be a fraud/LARPer (maybe did serve but was a fobbit or possibly didn't even deploy to Vietnam at all). Would also make sense with the scenes early in season 2 when he was bullshitting about PMC stuff more recently. Silver is so loyal to him not because of wartime heroics but maybe because Silver was doing something sketchy like dealing drugs or contraband when they were in, Kreese found out about it and didn't rat him out. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:50:44 AM EDT
[#30]
Johnny is an idiot.
Carmen is a 7.5. She is also poor. Ali is a 10 for her age. She is also well to do. By the way, I never watched anything other than the first KK movie. Hardly even remember it. Never watched the sequels. Was the story they discussed about Daniel breaking up with Ali ever in one of the sequels? Inquiring minds want to know. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 11:59:45 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Johnny is an idiot. Carmen is a 7.5. She is also poor. Ali is a 10 for her age. She is also well to do. By the way, I never watched anything other than the first KK movie. Hardly even remember it. Never watched the sequels. Was the story they discussed about Daniel breaking up with Ali ever in one of the sequels? Inquiring minds want to know. Ali’s in town for the holidays and heading back to her kids and career in Colorado. Johnny might ride off into the sunset with her one day, but it can’t happen now without him abandoning everything. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:04:13 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Johnny is an idiot. Carmen is a 7.5. She is also poor. Ali is a 10 for her age. She is also well to do. By the way, I never watched anything other than the first KK movie. Hardly even remember it. Never watched the sequels. Was the story they discussed about Daniel breaking up with Ali ever in one of the sequels? Inquiring minds want to know. Discussed at the beginning of #2 IIRC |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 12:05:07 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Johnny is an idiot. Carmen is a 7.5. She is also poor. Ali is a 10 for her age. She is also well to do. By the way, I never watched anything other than the first KK movie. Hardly even remember it. Never watched the sequels. Was the story they discussed about Daniel breaking up with Ali ever in one of the sequels? Inquiring minds want to know. Beginning of KK2, Daniel is whining about Ali hooking up with a college dude or something, and crashing his car. KK2 is decent, but by all means do not ever watch KK3 or Next KK. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:07:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Johnny is an idiot. Carmen is a 7.5. She is also poor. Ali is a 10 for her age. She is also well to do. By the way, I never watched anything other than the first KK movie. Hardly even remember it. Never watched the sequels. Was the story they discussed about Daniel breaking up with Ali ever in one of the sequels? Inquiring minds want to know. Nothing wrong with a 7.5 and Johnny isn't rich either... Ali left him for Daniel and then left Daniel for another dude and is going through a divorce now. Ali may have money but how long do you think she'd keep Johnny around. Sometimes it's best to just stay with what you got. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:13:46 PM EDT
[#35]
I still enjoyed season 3, but to echo others, it didn't have the same magic. Season 1 was just incredible.
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:36:11 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just watched the last two episodes last night. My god those Vietnam scenes were ridiculous, even for Hollywood standards. Elizabeth Shue was a treat. If I was Johnny I would dump the Hispanic chick for her in a heartbeat. The fight scene was contrived as hell. However, all in all I like the season. Very enjoyable story. Dump the 35 year old Colombiana for the pushing 60 chick? Actually, that’s not fair. Character wise, Johnny is like 53, Miquel’s Mom 35, Laruso just turned 54, Mrs. Laruso I’m not sure, but I think she is meant to be about 40 and not in on the 80s fest, and I think the same for Robbie’s mom, and Ali about 53 and not her real life 57. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:39:28 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryBreakfast Club! |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:49:59 PM EDT
[#38]
Weird Science except Lisa has computer kids and plenty of naked chicks this time
No Bill Paxton so it would be missing something |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:52:57 PM EDT
[#39]
Navy Seals!
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Posted: 1/5/2021 6:59:53 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We turned Netflix back on just for it, binge watched over the weekend. I agree on the Vietnam scenes, it was not needed or at least not done well. I still feel zero for d-bag though he did somehow take care of uber d-bag trying to corner the girl into sex for rent. I also don't know how Johnny raised the money after step dad turned him down, I am assuming he finally got pawn dude to buy whatever that thing was he took. Over all I love this show, seems like they have disagreeing or different writers but it is still quirky and full of 80's stuff and it is good fun away from a mad mad world. The part I do disagree with others is he did the right thing by not sleeping with Ali and returning to the neighbor lady. He has had enough booty calls and needs a good woman to stick around. I agree with everyone here saying the VN scenes were cringey. But, I do appreciate trying to set up some backstory he was a physically abused kid, lost his Mom, was a bullied teenager, was a specimen kicking ass in the Army and VN, and experienced some brutal and POW stuff before becoming a serious martial artist. BUT... They could have gotten some free consulting from a vet for like 30 minutes, that would have fixed how ridiculous their version panned out, he enlisted around 66, did jump / infantry and was a LRRP, got picked up for SF Recon and to MACV-SOG becoming a GB without the Q course, how stupid the ancient Captain was vs some 27 year old, how he got a battlefield commission after being a POW, then got his assignment and learning Karate, to the Karate Team, how that he got RIFed at the end of VN, like many battlefield commissions, started up Cobra Kai around 1975, was ten years into it at KK1, after KK2 and KK3, he re-enlists in the Reserves like 11th Group in that era as an NCO, scores an AGR slot for ten years, retires, but even though he’s like a SFC or MSG he gets retired at his Captain rank he held. He spent the 15 years or so doing OGA contracts in OEF. And aged out five or so years ago. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 7:04:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They already brought Doug back in Iron Eagle 4, and he used a shotgun to steal an F16. Holy Shit. I know I saw IE II at the theatre, but I never even knew there was an IE 3 or 4. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 7:11:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with everyone here saying the VN scenes were cringey. But, I do appreciate trying to set up some backstory he was a physically abused kid, lost his Mom, was a bullied teenager, was a specimen kicking ass in the Army and VN, and experienced some brutal and POW stuff before becoming a serious martial artist. BUT... They could have gotten some free consulting from a vet for like 30 minutes, that would have fixed how ridiculous their version panned out, he enlisted around 66, did jump / infantry and was a LRRP, got picked up for SF Recon and to MACV-SOG becoming a GB without the Q course, how stupid the ancient Captain was vs some 27 year old, how he got a battlefield commission after being a POW, then got his assignment and learning Karate, to the Karate Team, how that he got RIFed at the end of VN, like many battlefield commissions, started up Cobra Kai around 1975, was ten years into it at KK1, after KK2 and KK3, he re-enlists in the Reserves like 11th Group in that era as an NCO, scores an AGR slot for ten years, retires, but even though he’s like a SFC or MSG he gets retired at his Captain rank he held. He spent the 15 years or so doing OGA contracts in OEF. And aged out five or so years ago. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We turned Netflix back on just for it, binge watched over the weekend. I agree on the Vietnam scenes, it was not needed or at least not done well. I still feel zero for d-bag though he did somehow take care of uber d-bag trying to corner the girl into sex for rent. I also don't know how Johnny raised the money after step dad turned him down, I am assuming he finally got pawn dude to buy whatever that thing was he took. Over all I love this show, seems like they have disagreeing or different writers but it is still quirky and full of 80's stuff and it is good fun away from a mad mad world. The part I do disagree with others is he did the right thing by not sleeping with Ali and returning to the neighbor lady. He has had enough booty calls and needs a good woman to stick around. I agree with everyone here saying the VN scenes were cringey. But, I do appreciate trying to set up some backstory he was a physically abused kid, lost his Mom, was a bullied teenager, was a specimen kicking ass in the Army and VN, and experienced some brutal and POW stuff before becoming a serious martial artist. BUT... They could have gotten some free consulting from a vet for like 30 minutes, that would have fixed how ridiculous their version panned out, he enlisted around 66, did jump / infantry and was a LRRP, got picked up for SF Recon and to MACV-SOG becoming a GB without the Q course, how stupid the ancient Captain was vs some 27 year old, how he got a battlefield commission after being a POW, then got his assignment and learning Karate, to the Karate Team, how that he got RIFed at the end of VN, like many battlefield commissions, started up Cobra Kai around 1975, was ten years into it at KK1, after KK2 and KK3, he re-enlists in the Reserves like 11th Group in that era as an NCO, scores an AGR slot for ten years, retires, but even though he’s like a SFC or MSG he gets retired at his Captain rank he held. He spent the 15 years or so doing OGA contracts in OEF. And aged out five or so years ago. The only backstory that makes sense for his ridiculous character is that if a poser. Karate champ, sure. But, that wouldn't be enough. He can create a super '80s "Frank Dux style" persona and focus in teaching youth karate in order to find willing gullible fans. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 7:11:30 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Navy Seals! 
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Posted: 1/5/2021 8:02:17 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hot girls are definitely 100% Into nerds IF they have money. Don’t fucking understand it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You know what is totally unbelievable? The hot chick hooking up with the Demetri nerd. Hot girls are definitely 100% Into nerds IF they have money. Don’t fucking understand it FIFY. 
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Posted: 1/5/2021 8:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FIFY. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You know what is totally unbelievable? The hot chick hooking up with the Demetri nerd. Hot girls are definitely 100% Into nerds IF they have money. Don’t fucking understand it FIFY. About 15 years ago, I was an IT guy for a school district. I was fixing a computer in a high school math class, not really paying attention when the teacher called my name. She asked me to tell the class why having a firm understanding of math and science is a good thing. I replied, “Those with tech degrees will earn lots of money. Those with lots of money get prettier girlfriends.” Thankfully, everyone laughed and this was before the age when everyone is offended by everything. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 8:43:52 PM EDT
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Just finished season 3. Thoroughly enjoyed it, but as already mentioned I don't see how they can go much past season 4.
Hope I'm wrong and they're able to keep an interesting storyline going for a few more seasons, though. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 8:46:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FIFY. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You know what is totally unbelievable? The hot chick hooking up with the Demetri nerd. Hot girls are definitely 100% Into nerds IF they have money. Don’t fucking understand it FIFY. Haha you just have to be tall. The 6’4” thing is real. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 8:51:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FIFY. Little sister has a hot as fuck friend in her 19-20 years old. She’s with the ugliest, weirdest fucking nerd ever. Dudes a straight up pussy fart. No balls and can’t do man shit. Can’t hold a job and doing film in school. Wants to be the next Spielberg... Shits backwards now a days. |
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Posted: 1/5/2021 9:42:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2021 10:08:23 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only backstory that makes sense for his ridiculous character is that if a poser. Karate champ, sure. But, that wouldn't be enough. He can create a super '80s "Frank Dux style" persona and focus in teaching youth karate in order to find willing gullible fans. I’ve seen enough guys with that real background from that era train wreck enough in the 80s and later I would be kind of disappointed if he was a stolen valor guy. I get it, it would work, like you said. But I really would prefer if he and Silver were just warped pricks that had been tortured POWs and had team pics like this next to piles of VC in VN. At least I can understand that. I can’t wrap my mind around a Frank Dux type. 
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