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Quoted: The article I read said that the actions of the police also "contributed". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: ...strangulation, says Floyd had underlying medical conditions that contributed to his death. Ut oh, sounds like murder/manslaughter may be an invalid charge. The article I read said that the actions of the police also "contributed". They would have to say that his specific action contributed. If it didn’t then ANY physical altercation could have caused it...,which Floyd initiated. |
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Quoted: NG on scene, curfew in affect. Riots should be calming down. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/499084/29922471_jpg-1438011.JPG View Quote I would take that bet, based on the attitudes I saw on display the past 2 nights. They know no one will shoot them or administer hickory shampoos. In fact, they will probably flee the area if things get too dicey. |
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Lol, reminds me of the retards who argued that Heath Heyer (Charlottesville) died from a heart attack. I mean, the blunt force trauma to the chest that caused the heart attack wasn't murder, she died from a heart attack because she was fat, right?
Seems like this is textbook manslaughter, unintentional homicide, however you want to put it. First degree murder would be going too far, but his negligent and extraordinary actions led to death - underlying health conditions mean jack shit. |
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Cool. Don’t tell a cop you have a pre existing condition. They can kill you and get away with it...
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Quoted: Lol, reminds me of the retards who argued that Heath Heyer (Charlottesville) died from a heart attack. I mean, the blunt force trauma to the chest that caused the heart attack wasn't murder, she died from a heart attack because she was fat, right? Seems like this is textbook manslaughter, unintentional homicide, however you want to put it. First degree murder would be going too far, but his negligent and extraordinary actions led to death - underlying health conditions mean jack shit. View Quote Yes, someone running over a person with a car is the same as police restraining a combative suspect. |
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Quoted: Cool. Don’t tell a cop you have a pre existing condition. They can kill you and get away with it... View Quote So if you are a cop make sure to always ask if the person you interact with has a pre existing condition. Dude going crazy and beating up and old woman or something in an old folks home, you better WAIT until he’s done so you can make him fill out your questionnaire. Otherwise it’s just too risky. |
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Here’s why it doesn’t matter, he was handcuffed and in custody. Even if he was just sitting by the wall no one on top of him, once he stopped breathing they are responsible for performing life saving measures. They failed to do so even after being told he wasn’t breathing by witnesses
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Quoted: Doesn’t matter. Even if we don’t have the whole story he’s a cop. We MUST assume he attacked him and injected him with heart attack juice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: But what if he was dangerous to others? Doesn’t matter. Even if we don’t have the whole story he’s a cop. We MUST assume he attacked him and injected him with heart attack juice. So if Floyd was going crazy and trying to kill others, you are ok with that? |
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Quoted: Yes, someone running over a person with a car is the same as police restraining a combative suspect. View Quote If the cop had properly restrained this suspect, said suspect would almost certainly still be alive.... but bending over and restraining the head with both hands like in training really hurts my back yo... fuck it, I'll just put my hands in my pockets and use my knee, much more comfy. |
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Hmmm...just like I said before being I was attacked by the arfcom know it alls. The knee wasn’t what killed him. Either an underlying issue or excited delirium, in conjunction with proper medical care being withheld.
To clarify, I still think the the actions and lack there of by the officer were reprehensible. The lack of compassion or care of a person in his custody when he was in obvious distress rises to the level of at least man daughter IMHO |
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Quoted: They would have to say that his specific action contributed. If it didn’t then ANY physical altercation could have caused it...,which Floyd initiated. View Quote He said the actions of the police contributed, not that it was gonna happen at anytime regardless. Did they finally come up with evidence Floyd initiated an altercation or is it still just the word of the cops? |
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Quoted: @Aimless He had a heart attack which had nothing to do with four cops sitting on him, just a weird coincidence. View Quote What if he wasn’t on his neck....and still died of a heart attack? I think the physical altercation was clearly started by Floyd....as it’s been kept stealth quite. Still the cops fault if Floyd started a fight and died of a heart attack fighting? Being serious....what do you think? The knee to his neck was shading policy...but did it kill him? |
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Quoted: Hmmm...just like I said. The knee wasn’t what killed him. Either an underlying issue or excited delirium, I was attacked by the arfcom know it alls. To clarify, I still think the the actions and lack there of by the officer were reprehensible. The lack of compassion or care of a person in his custody when he was in obvious distress rises to the level of at least man daughter IMHO View Quote Totally agree. |
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He still died due to the knee.
So you’re saying that if a person with a terminal illness has only hours to live and say someone goes in a blows his brains out that it isn’t murder because he was going to die shortly anyway? |
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Quoted: Quoted: So if Floyd was going crazy and trying to kill others, you are ok with that? Sarcasm. Nope. Something happened after he was put in hand cuffs and that part is Missing to us right now. And that's the key to justified or murder. |
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Because it was positional asphyxiation that put his system into distress and kicked the other shit in. When he went limp they needed to start working him to save his life. They didn't. They kept the restraining position after he went unconscious from the restraining position.
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Was there ANY evidence of violence?
You mean besides the dead body? |
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Quoted: Please don't confuse people with facts. The verdict is already in and cops have to fry for touching a black man. The other side of that is: How come there's always some tiny justification that gets guilty cops off scott free? Or so the narrative goes... View Quote Willing to let someone kneel on your throat for 8 min to prove your hypothesis? |
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Quoted: Are you saying this autopsy is part of a conspiracy? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: I called it. Saying you "can't breath" means you can breath. He's not the gem everyone played him out to be. The optics are terrible, but facts are facts. View Quote That’s probably what I’d say if I was having trouble breathing. Maybe he should have said ‘ I’m finding it difficult to breath at the normals levels I've grown accustomed to. Would be please discontinue your restriction of my airway, sir? |
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Quoted: Please don't confuse people with facts. The verdict is already in and cops have to fry for touching a black man. The other side of that is: How come there's always some tiny justification that gets guilty cops off scott free? Or so the narrative goes... View Quote Yeah, it's clear he would have dropped dead right there at that moment no matter what. It was pure coincidence that he happened to do it while that cop kneeled on his neck. |
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Quoted: That's what the coroner said too. Can you not read? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Wait! Liberals told me that Cops killed him. That's what the coroner said too. Can you not read? Nope. That's the Opposite of what the report said. Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy |
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Quoted: Doesn’t matter. Even if we don’t have the whole story he’s a cop. We MUST assume he attacked him and injected him with heart attack juice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: But what if he was dangerous to others? Doesn’t matter. Even if we don’t have the whole story he’s a cop. We MUST assume he attacked him and injected him with heart attack juice. No story on the planet would justify kneeling on the neck of a restrained man with 3 other officers on scene and only passive resistance, at best. Doesn't appear to have directly caused the mans death but piss poor workmanship on the officers' parts certainly didn't help. |
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Yeah I think it was a partial blood choke not strangulation . Not sure if that was ruled out
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