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Posted: 3/18/2020 4:53:55 PM EDT

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He lasted a couple games before getting benched after he came back from injury.

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Didn't he get hurt, not benched for Minshew?

He lasted a couple games before getting benched after he came back from injury.

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Posted: 3/18/2020 4:55:37 PM EDT

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Didn't he get hurt, not benched for Minshew?

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Hurt week 1, came back after the bye. Lost a couple games to Indy, Tennessee, and TB and they benched him during the TB game.

His per game stats looked like this...

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IMO, the stats aren't bad for a guy who had minimal time to develop chemistry with guys in the pre-season and then coming off a rather serious injury he got thrown into a mixed bag of a season.

Posted: 3/18/2020 4:58:05 PM EDT

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Go Browns!

Posted: 3/18/2020 4:59:27 PM EDT

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Who's going to overpay for Gordon?

There are about four teams in play for Melvin Gordon's services, a source tells me. Teams were anticipating more cap space so the structure of the deal — and getting creative — will go a long way here.
Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) March 18, 2020

Posted: 3/18/2020 5:02:28 PM EDT

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Who's going to overpay for Gordon?

There are about four teams in play for Melvin Gordon's services, a source tells me. Teams were anticipating more cap space so the structure of the deal — and getting creative — will go a long way here.
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How much cap space do the Texans have?

Posted: 3/18/2020 5:02:35 PM EDT

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Who's going to overpay for Gordon?

There are about four teams in play for Melvin Gordon's services, a source tells me. Teams were anticipating more cap space so the structure of the deal — and getting creative — will go a long way here.
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I feel like last year didn't do Gordon any favors for how much he can demand. At the same time...we all know he is a really good back.

Posted: 3/18/2020 5:02:43 PM EDT

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After that he is stuck as a backup in KC (no surprise as Smith is a pretty good QB) and later on admits that at this point in his career he had lost the love for football and had considered retirement.

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The above statement about Foles may be a bit backwards according to this article: https://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/26630/nick-foles-lost-his-love-for-football-the-chiefs-helped-him-find-it Andy Reid talked him out of quitting football and brought him in as a backup for that year.

Posted: 3/18/2020 5:03:15 PM EDT

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How much cap space do the Texans have?

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Maybe they'll trade Watson.

They can have a formation with 4 RB's in the backfield. GENIUS!

Posted: 3/18/2020 5:06:08 PM EDT

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Maybe they'll trade Watson.

They can have a formation with 4 RB's in the backfield. GENIUS!

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How much cap space do the Texans have?

Maybe they'll trade Watson.

They can have a formation with 4 RB's in the backfield. GENIUS!

Just run a hell of a lot of reverses.

Posted: 3/18/2020 5:09:00 PM EDT

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I feel like last year didn't do Gordon any favors for how much he can demand. At the same time...we all know he is a really good back.

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That is the problem, he is a good back but not a great back.

Posted: 3/18/2020 5:23:00 PM EDT

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The above statement about Foles may be a bit backwards according to this article: https://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/26630/nick-foles-lost-his-love-for-football-the-chiefs-helped-him-find-it Andy Reid talked him out of quitting football and brought him in as a backup for that year.

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You're right in that he had lost his love for football in between playing for the Rams and the Chiefs, but that article even points out how broken Foles was when he showed up in KC and that him playing there wasn't about starting it was about learning to love football again. You can't be in that mental state and be able to perform at 100%, and even though he quickly turned around his outlook on football that period of time he was in that mental state had to have taken a toll on him physically. It will take a bit to get back to form, and more importantly it's going to take 1st team and game reps to achieve 100%. That's why I mentioned it there versus prior. His time in KC can't be used to evaluate his potential as a starting QB as he was never there to be a starting QB. That may have been a "shitty situation" of his own making, but it was one nonetheless.

Posted: 3/18/2020 5:27:46 PM EDT

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That is the problem, he is a good back but not a great back.

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I'm not sure what that has to do with the kind of contract he'll take/get offered. Plenty of good not great backs get paid well. The interesting part will be to see if teams compete to pay him for his upside or if they have to beat down his asking price with his latest performance.

Posted: 3/18/2020 5:55:28 PM EDT

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How much cap space do the Texans have?

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Who's going to overpay for Gordon?

There are about four teams in play for Melvin Gordon's services, a source tells me. Teams were anticipating more cap space so the structure of the deal — and getting creative — will go a long way here.
Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) March 18, 2020

How much cap space do the Texans have?

this one made me chuckle.

Posted: 3/18/2020 5:57:07 PM EDT

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Shit, Jason Witten signed with the Raiders. How much weirder is Brady than that? Not much, IMO.

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No shit? I missed that

Posted: 3/18/2020 6:07:27 PM EDT

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Shit, Jason Witten signed with the Raiders. How much weirder is Brady than that? Not much, IMO.

No shit? I missed that

That move that makes little sense as the Raiders have a star TE in Waller and another young guy, Foster Moreau is not bad either. It's Gruden though, we expect this.

Posted: 3/18/2020 6:10:36 PM EDT

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That move that makes little sense as the Raiders have a star TE in Waller and another young guy, Foster Moreau is not bad either. It's Gruden though, we expect this.

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Yeah that's what I was thinking. It makes no sense but like you said it's Gruden

Posted: 3/18/2020 6:27:20 PM EDT

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i'm starting to wonder where the likes of Cam and Winston will play next season.

chargers seem content with tyrod. bears seem to wanna see two back ups duke it out.

maybe the next domino to fall is NE signing or trading for a QB, then some of the rest will fall in line. also have the draft coming up, too.

Posted: 3/18/2020 6:37:58 PM EDT

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i'm starting to wonder where the likes of Cam and Winston will play next season.

chargers seem content with tyrod. bears seem to wanna see two back ups duke it out.

maybe the next domino to fall is NE signing or trading for a QB, then some of the rest will fall in line. also have the draft coming up, too.

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They may be on the outside looking in

Posted: 3/18/2020 6:42:59 PM EDT

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i'm starting to wonder where the likes of Cam and Winston will play next season.

chargers seem content with tyrod. bears seem to wanna see two back ups duke it out.

maybe the next domino to fall is NE signing or trading for a QB, then some of the rest will fall in line. also have the draft coming up, too.

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I learned in the past couple of days that NFL teams do some dumb things with QBs.

I thought the bears would make a move for Cam or see if they could get a year or two out of Brady or Rivers at a reasonable price. But they traded for Foles instead.

Brady is going to TB.
Rivers is going INDY
Bridgewater is going to CAR
Tanehill cashed in.

Meanwhile no one is even spreading rumors about the guy who lead the league in passing yards or a former MVP.

Posted: 3/18/2020 7:12:46 PM EDT

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I learned in the past couple of days that NFL teams do some dumb things with QBs.

I thought the bears would make a move for Cam or see if they could get a year or two out of Brady or Rivers at a reasonable price. But they traded for Foles instead.

Brady is going to TB.
Rivers is going INDY
Bridgewater is going to CAR
Tanehill cashed in.

Meanwhile no one is even spreading rumors about the guy who lead the league in passing yards or a former MVP.

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This has certainly been an interesting few days...more WTF's than usual.

Posted: 3/18/2020 7:14:56 PM EDT

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This has certainly been an interesting few days...more WTF's than usual.

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I learned in the past couple of days that NFL teams do some dumb things with QBs.

I thought the bears would make a move for Cam or see if they could get a year or two out of Brady or Rivers at a reasonable price. But they traded for Foles instead.

Brady is going to TB.
Rivers is going INDY
Bridgewater is going to CAR
Tanehill cashed in.

Meanwhile no one is even spreading rumors about the guy who lead the league in passing yards or a former MVP.

This has certainly been an interesting few days...more WTF's than usual.

this corona getting to people, i keep saying this.

Posted: 3/18/2020 7:23:23 PM EDT

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Finally I see my skins trending in the right direction.

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Shit, I just laughed/ snorted a pretzel into my nose ..

Posted: 3/18/2020 9:30:51 PM EDT

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looks like Clowny hasn't gotten the big offers he was hoping for.

Posted: 3/19/2020 12:59:59 AM EDT

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i'm starting to wonder where the likes of Cam and Winston will play next season.

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As starters, I bet both are done. Their only hope in signing is to be a back-up QB, IMO. Newton is coming off of all sorts of serious injuries and a couple of surgeries. No one is going to bet the team on that sort of physical specimen, IMO.

Posted: 3/19/2020 1:11:54 AM EDT

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Imagine telling Patriots fans 3 years ago that in 2020 Brady would be QB of the Bucs and Gronk would retire from the NFL and be involved with WWE.

Posted: 3/19/2020 1:58:41 AM EDT

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looks like Clowny hasn't gotten the big offers he was hoping for.

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He hasn't done anything to deserve the contract he wants.

Posted: 3/19/2020 2:14:35 AM EDT

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Imagine telling Patriots fans 3 years ago that in 2020 Brady would be QB of the Bucs and Gronk would retire from the NFL and be involved with WWE.

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one of my pat fan friends was completely indifferent to Brady leaving. I think some of the fans will be in for a rude awakening this season.

Posted: 3/19/2020 2:15:08 AM EDT

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He hasn't done anything to deserve the contract he wants.

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looks like Clowny hasn't gotten the big offers he was hoping for.

He hasn't done anything to deserve the contract he wants.

well, he pretty much single handily won Seattle a play off game...

Posted: 3/19/2020 2:21:14 AM EDT

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well, he pretty much single handily won Seattle a play off game...

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looks like Clowny hasn't gotten the big offers he was hoping for.

He hasn't done anything to deserve the contract he wants.

well, he pretty much single handily won Seattle a play off game...

Another guy who's never lived up to the hype.

Posted: 3/19/2020 2:23:42 AM EDT

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Another guy who's never lived up to the hype.

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lol... I'm not disagreeing with you.

but, that just means either the skins or dolphins will lock him up on a five year $100 mil deal.

Posted: 3/19/2020 2:24:45 AM EDT

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lol... I'm not disagreeing with you.

but, that just means either the skins or dolphins will lock him up on a five year $100 mil deal.

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The Dolphins aren't signing him. They've already picked up 3 edge defenders.

Posted: 3/19/2020 7:27:57 AM EDT

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one of my pat fan friends was completely indifferent to Brady leaving. I think some of the fans will be in for a rude awakening this season.

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I never got to see him play (in person). Always thought he'd be there.

This Patriots fan will miss him and I hope he plays well in Tampa.

Think about how significant and rare it is for a guy so lacking in athleticism to be considered the Greatest Quarterback of All Time. He was the full-time starter for 18 seasons in New England...and played in 13 conference championships and nine Super Bowls. That's ridiculous.

Posted: 3/19/2020 10:05:48 AM EDT

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Eagles trade a 3rd and a 5th to the Lions for CB Darius Slay. The Eagles then signed him to a $50M/3 year deal with $30M guaranteed.

The Dolphins overpaid for Jones, but at least in their deal that had them paying a non-shut down corner over $16M a season they didn’t have to give up multiple draft picks on top of that.

Posted: 3/19/2020 10:08:56 AM EDT

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I never got to see him play (in person). Always thought he'd be there.

This Patriots fan will miss him and I hope he plays well in Tampa.

Think about how significant and rare it is for a guy so lacking in athleticism to be considered the Greatest Quarterback of All Time. He was the full-time starter for 18 seasons in New England...and played in 13 conference championships and nine Super Bowls. That's ridiculous.

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one of my pat fan friends was completely indifferent to Brady leaving. I think some of the fans will be in for a rude awakening this season.

I never got to see him play (in person). Always thought he'd be there.

This Patriots fan will miss him and I hope he plays well in Tampa.

Think about how significant and rare it is for a guy so lacking in athleticism to be considered the Greatest Quarterback of All Time. He was the full-time starter for 18 seasons in New England...and played in 13 conference championships and nine Super Bowls. That's ridiculous.

Save the “played in” stat for guys like Jim Kelly.

Posted: 3/19/2020 10:25:17 AM EDT

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Since word surfaced that Tom Brady is expected to land in Tampa, an unexpected high number of players have reached out to the Buccaneers to let them know they want to join the former Patriots’ QB there, per league sources.
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Posted: 3/19/2020 10:42:52 AM EDT

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Since word surfaced that Tom Brady is expected to land in Tampa, an unexpected high number of players have reached out to the Buccaneers to let them know they want to join the former Patriots’ QB there, per league sources.
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LOL...nice!

Posted: 3/19/2020 10:48:50 AM EDT

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Since word surfaced that Tom Brady is expected to land in Tampa, an unexpected high number of players have reached out to the Buccaneers to let them know they want to join the former Patriots’ QB there, per league sources.
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Without specifics that doesn’t really mean much. A high number of players want to play for ANY team.

Posted: 3/19/2020 10:52:15 AM EDT

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I never got to see him play (in person). Always thought he'd be there.

This Patriots fan will miss him and I hope he plays well in Tampa.

Think about how significant and rare it is for a guy so lacking in athleticism to be considered the Greatest Quarterback of All Time. He was the full-time starter for 18 seasons in New England...and played in 13 conference championships and nine Super Bowls. That's ridiculous.

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one of my pat fan friends was completely indifferent to Brady leaving. I think some of the fans will be in for a rude awakening this season.

I never got to see him play (in person). Always thought he'd be there.

This Patriots fan will miss him and I hope he plays well in Tampa.

Think about how significant and rare it is for a guy so lacking in athleticism to be considered the Greatest Quarterback of All Time. He was the full-time starter for 18 seasons in New England...and played in 13 conference championships and nine Super Bowls. That's ridiculous.

How long were you planning to wait?

Posted: 3/19/2020 11:40:49 AM EDT

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Since word surfaced that Tom Brady is expected to land in Tampa, an unexpected high number of players have reached out to the Buccaneers to let them know they want to join the former Patriots’ QB there, per league sources.
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That wouldn't be a surprise. The Patriots have been a hot destination for players for years because of Tom Brady. The Patsies are going to start having to pay players market value but they're in cap hell.

Posted: 3/19/2020 12:19:11 PM EDT

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Save the “played in” stat for guys like Jim Kelly.

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one of my pat fan friends was completely indifferent to Brady leaving. I think some of the fans will be in for a rude awakening this season.

I never got to see him play (in person). Always thought he'd be there.

This Patriots fan will miss him and I hope he plays well in Tampa.

Think about how significant and rare it is for a guy so lacking in athleticism to be considered the Greatest Quarterback of All Time. He was the full-time starter for 18 seasons in New England...and played in 13 conference championships and nine Super Bowls. That's ridiculous.

Save the “played in” stat for guys like Jim Kelly.

Personally, I think appearing in 13/18 possible conference championships is worth mentioning no matter who we're talking about.

Posted: 3/19/2020 12:34:43 PM EDT

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The Dolphins aren't signing him. They've already picked up 3 edge defenders.

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it was a joke at both our teams overpaying for d lineman.

Posted: 3/19/2020 1:06:29 PM EDT

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So far, some teams have gotten a lot better, and some teams have gotten a LOT worse.

Graphic at link: https://twitter.com/KevinColePFF/status/1240642149441560580

Posted: 3/19/2020 1:17:07 PM EDT

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So far, some teams have gotten a lot better, and some teams have gotten a LOT worse.

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Looks accurate to me.

Posted: 3/19/2020 1:33:09 PM EDT

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So far, some teams have gotten a lot better, and some teams have gotten a LOT worse.

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look at those skins keep trending in the right direction.

Posted: 3/19/2020 1:40:25 PM EDT

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So far, some teams have gotten a lot better, and some teams have gotten a LOT worse.

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Neat graphic, worth reposting here

Posted: 3/19/2020 1:43:12 PM EDT

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Snyder is your teams issues. He's all the worst qualities of Jerry Jones with none of the upsides.

Posted: 3/19/2020 1:53:06 PM EDT

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Neat graphic, worth reposting here

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Looks very scientific...

Posted: 3/19/2020 1:59:26 PM EDT

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Free agent RB Melvin Gordon is not getting anything remotely close to what the #Chargers offered him in training camp, per @MikeGarafolo.
NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) March 19, 2020

Posted: 3/19/2020 2:39:48 PM EDT

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I'm not buying into anything positive about the Browns any more. Show me on the field next season and maybe I'll start to believe again.

Posted: 3/19/2020 3:08:24 PM EDT

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I'm not buying into anything positive about the Browns any more. Show me on the field next season and maybe I'll start to believe again.

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They have yuuuuge O line needs. Loaded with wepons, Baker has a lot of upside, solid defense, but they probably need to spend the first 3 picks on OL. Hopefully 2 of them turn into starters.

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