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Quoted: #1 After being stuck in the house and not having any way to free the beast a wrestling match in the stands was bound to happen. Especially if you're hammered drunk and it cold outside. #2 You spelled Eagles Fans wrong. If you can want to talk crazy and obnoxious. EAGLES View Quote Been to games at both stadiums. Bills fans shenanigans are cheeky and fun. Eagles fans are cruel and tragic. |
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Quoted: It would be a shame for the Bucs to lose him but he deserves a better shot than what he had with the New Jersey Dumpster Fire. Plus they could use the draft picks to make up for the stars they will lose to free agency and the salary cap. View Quote Is he really that good? The recycling of coaches is getting ridiculous...its like musical chairs. |
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The six wildcard games had a total viewership of 145 million.
The NBA Finals, World Series and Stanley Cup had 116.8 million COMBINED for all games. |
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Quoted: #2 You spelled Eagles Fans wrong. If you can want to talk crazy and obnoxious. EAGLES View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: #2 You spelled Eagles Fans wrong. If you can want to talk crazy and obnoxious. EAGLES Quoted: Been to games at both stadiums. Bills fans shenanigans are cheeky and fun. Eagles fans are cruel and tragic. Attached File |
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So now the Texans are wanting an interview with Bieniemy. After Andre Johnson's tweet, and a LOT of support from former and current players, the Texans are scrambling. Going to be interesting to see what happens with Watson in the offseason.
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Quoted: So now the Texans are wanting an interview with Bieniemy. After Andre Johnson's tweet, and a LOT of support from former and current players, the Texans are scrambling. Going to be interesting to see what happens with Watson in the offseason. View Quote They also put in the request too late and now need to wait for the Chiefs to finish their post season when they could have interviewed him last week. |
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Quoted: They also put in the request too late and now need to wait for the Chiefs to finish their post season when they could have interviewed him last week. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So now the Texans are wanting an interview with Bieniemy. After Andre Johnson's tweet, and a LOT of support from former and current players, the Texans are scrambling. Going to be interesting to see what happens with Watson in the offseason. They also put in the request too late and now need to wait for the Chiefs to finish their post season when they could have interviewed him last week. If you consider everything a case could be made that the Texans are the worst run and most disappointing team in the NFL. I mean the Jets would still probably win, but the case could be made for the Texans. The Jets went 2-14 with a QB that was #35 in passer rating. The Texans went 4-12 with a QB that was #2 in passer rating The Jets have two 1st round picks in the next draft. The first pick the Texans will have will be in the 3rd round. |
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Quoted: The Jets have two 1st round picks in the next draft. The first pick the Texans will have will be in the 3rd round. View Quote Attached File |
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With how bad the Texans are bungling this I'd be shocked if Deshaun's agent isn't out there looking for a trade partner. That org is going to end up ruining his prime years before they build around him again.
Even if they nail a couple of good drafts, and bring some FA's in they're looking at 2-3 years before being able to be competitive again. They're also in the same division as the Colts and Titans who just made the playoffs. Jags will looking to rebuild too, and are getting Lawrence to build around. |
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Well that's not ideal.
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Remember how everyone said there was no way 2021 would be crazier than 2020?
The country is on the brink of civil war, the joke South Park made over a decade ago about Kanye West being gay has reportedly come true, the Browns are two wins from the Super Bowl, and we're not even two full weeks into the year yet. |
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Remaining playoff teams by offense, defense, turnover differential, point differential and strength of schedule.
Passing Offense: Chiefs: 303.4 yrds/game (1 overall) Bucs: 289.1 (2) Bills: 288.8 (3) Packers: 256.6 (9) Rams: 250.9 (13) Saints: 234.9 (19) Browns: 221.2 (24) Ravens: 171.2 (32) Rushing Offense: Ravens: 191.1 (1) Browns: 148.4 (3) Saints: 141.6 (6) Packers: 132.4 (8) Rams: 126.1 (10) Chiefs: 112.4 (16) Bills: 107.7 (20) Bucs: 94.9 (28) Points: Packers: 31.8 (1) Bills: 31.3 (2) Bucs: 30.8 (3) Saints: 30.1 (5) Chiefs: 29.6 (6) Ravens: 29.3 (7) Browns: 25.5 (14) Rams: 23.3 (23) Passing Defense: Rams: 190.7 (1) Saints: 217.0 (5) Ravens: 221.0 (6) Packers: 221.2 (7) Bills 232.9 (13) Chiefs: 236.2 (14) Bucs: 246.6 (21) Browns: 247.6 (22) Rushing Defense: Bucs: 80.6 (1) Rams: 91.3 (3) Saints: 93.9 (4) Ravens 108.8 (8) Browns: 110.8 (9) Packers: 112.8 (13) Bills: 119.6 (17) Chiefs: 122.1 (21) Points Against: Rams: 18.5 (1) Ravens: 18.9 (2) Saints: 21.1 (5) Bucs: 22.2 (8) Chiefs: 22.6 (11) Packers: 23.1 (13) Bills: 23.4 (16) Browns: 26.2 (21) Turnover Differential: Saints +9 (4) Bucs +8 (6) Packers +7 (7) Chiefs +6 (8) Browns +5 (9) T6. Bills +4 (10) T6. Ravens +4 (10) Rams -3 (21) Point Differential: Ravens +165 (1) Saints +145 (2) Packers +140 (3) Bucs +137 (4) Bills +126 (5) Chiefs +111 (6) Rams +76 (10) Browns -11 (16) SOS: Bills: .512 Ravens: .494 Rams: .494 Bucs .488 Chiefs .465 Saints .459 Browns .451 Packers .428 |
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Quoted: Remaining playoff teams by offense, defense, turnover differential, point differential and strength of schedule. Passing Offense: Chiefs: 303.4 yrds/game (1 overall) Bucs: 289.1 (2) Bills: 288.8 (3) Packers: 256.6 (9) Rams: 250.9 (13) Saints: 234.9 (19) Browns: 221.2 (24) Ravens: 171.2 (32) Rushing Offense: Ravens: 191.1 (1) Browns: 148.4 (3) Saints: 141.6 (6) Packers: 132.4 (8) Rams: 126.1 (10) Chiefs: 112.4 (16) Bills: 107.7 (20) Bucs: 94.9 (28) Points: Packers: 31.8 (1) Bills: 31.3 (2) Bucs: 30.8 (3) Saints: 30.1 (5) Chiefs: 29.6 (6) Ravens: 29.3 (7) Browns: 25.5 (14) Rams: 23.3 (23) Passing Defense: Rams: 190.7 (1) Saints: 217.0 (5) Ravens: 221.0 (6) Packers: 221.2 (7) Bills 232.9 (13) Chiefs: 236.2 (14) Bucs: 246.6 (21) Browns: 247.6 (22) Rushing Defense: Bucs: 80.6 (1) Rams: 91.3 (3) Saints: 93.9 (4) Ravens 108.8 (8) Browns: 110.8 (9) Packers: 112.8 (13) Bills: 119.6 (17) Chiefs: 122.1 (21) Points Against: Rams: 18.5 (1) Ravens: 18.9 (2) Saints: 21.1 (5) Bucs: 22.2 (8) Chiefs: 22.6 (11) Packers: 23.1 (13) Bills: 23.4 (16) Browns: 26.2 (21) Turnover Differential: Saints +9 (4) Bucs +8 (6) Packers +7 (7) Chiefs +6 (8) Browns +5 (9) T6. Bills +4 (10) T6. Ravens +4 (10) Rams -3 (21) Point Differential: Ravens +165 (1) Saints +145 (2) Packers +140 (3) Bucs +137 (4) Bills +126 (5) Chiefs +111 (6) Rams +76 (10) Browns -11 (16) SOS: Bills: .512 Ravens: .494 Rams: .494 Bucs .488 Chiefs .465 Saints .459 Browns .451 Packers .428 View Quote I wonder when was the last time a team finished #1 in point differential with the next closest team 20+ points away and they did NOT win their division. |
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Bill O'Brien is inking a deal to become Alabama's OC.
I think the only thing more secure than a government job is the good ole boys football coaches network. Dude ruined an entire NFL franchise with his decision making with ramifications that will take multiple seasons to remedy, and less than a year removed is right back into a lucrative coaching job with a team that just won the national championship |
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Quoted: Bill O'Brien is inking a deal to become Alabama's OC. I think the only thing more secure than a government job is the good ole boys football coaches network. Dude ruined an entire NFL franchise with his decision making with ramifications that will take multiple seasons to remedy, and less than a year removed is right back into a lucrative coaching job with a team that just won the national championship View Quote and he'll revitalize your career quicker than anyone. kiffen came to him a disgraced former HC and he's gotten better and better gigs since. Sarkisian the same. guess it's time for him to remedy O'Brien. |
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Quoted: and he'll revitalize your career quicker than anyone. kiffen came to him a disgraced former HC and he's gotten better and better gigs since. Sarkisian the same. guess it's time for him to remedy O'Brien. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Bill O'Brien is inking a deal to become Alabama's OC. I think the only thing more secure than a government job is the good ole boys football coaches network. Dude ruined an entire NFL franchise with his decision making with ramifications that will take multiple seasons to remedy, and less than a year removed is right back into a lucrative coaching job with a team that just won the national championship and he'll revitalize your career quicker than anyone. kiffen came to him a disgraced former HC and he's gotten better and better gigs since. Sarkisian the same. guess it's time for him to remedy O'Brien. He's also 19-0 against his former assistants. One of the more annoying things in football is the whole coaching tree magic wand fallacy we see fail time and time again. Revitalizing a career or getting a good gig is exactly the good ole boy coaches network I mentioned. How many other career fields allow you to destroy an entire extremely valuable franchise, and then get a high ranking job months later in close to the same position? |
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Quoted: He's also 19-0 against his former assistants. One of the more annoying things in football is the whole coaching tree magic wand fallacy we see fail time and time again. Revitalizing a career or getting a good gig is exactly the good ole boy coaches network I mentioned. How many other career fields allow you to destroy an entire extremely valuable franchise, and then get a high ranking job months later in close to the same position? View Quote you're absolutely right. it's a wonder to me how anyone breaks into coaching as these guys get jobs over and over and over again. |
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This is happening today:
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Quoted: This is happening today:
View Quote https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/EU-approves-sale-of-artificial-hearts-/5-2414666/ Hope the deal includes this. |
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Hey stat guys. What's the historical record when the top scoring offense faces the top scoring defense?
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Quoted: He's also 19-0 against his former assistants. One of the more annoying things in football is the whole coaching tree magic wand fallacy we see fail time and time again. Revitalizing a career or getting a good gig is exactly the good ole boy coaches network I mentioned. How many other career fields allow you to destroy an entire extremely valuable franchise, and then get a high ranking job months later in close to the same position? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bill O'Brien is inking a deal to become Alabama's OC. I think the only thing more secure than a government job is the good ole boys football coaches network. Dude ruined an entire NFL franchise with his decision making with ramifications that will take multiple seasons to remedy, and less than a year removed is right back into a lucrative coaching job with a team that just won the national championship and he'll revitalize your career quicker than anyone. kiffen came to him a disgraced former HC and he's gotten better and better gigs since. Sarkisian the same. guess it's time for him to remedy O'Brien. He's also 19-0 against his former assistants. One of the more annoying things in football is the whole coaching tree magic wand fallacy we see fail time and time again. Revitalizing a career or getting a good gig is exactly the good ole boy coaches network I mentioned. How many other career fields allow you to destroy an entire extremely valuable franchise, and then get a high ranking job months later in close to the same position? O'Brien did most of his damage to the Texans in the GM role. He trashed that roster. As a coach, he wasn't nearly as catastrophic. He's going from having Belichick level powers over a NFL franchise to being the OC of a college team. That's one hell of a demotion. A lot of the trouble O'Brien got himself in was due to his ego. Being publicly humiliated, turned into a meme, and reporting to a guy like Saban should keep that in check. I don't think it's reasonable to expect a guy like O'Brien to go completely without a job, but I also wouldn't expect him to get another NFL HC job. |
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Congrats, Steelers fans:
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Quoted: Hey stat guys. What's the historical record when the top scoring offense faces the top scoring defense? View Quote I don't know about overall, but in the Super Bowl the #1 defense is 7-1 against the #1 offense. Good ole Super Bowl 48. I probably won more money on personal bets that game than any other individual sporting event in my life. I was one of the few non-Seahawks fans that enjoyed every second of that 43-8 beatdown. |
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Quoted: Hey stat guys. What's the historical record when the top scoring offense faces the top scoring defense? View Quote Between 2006 and 2018 the #1 offense faced the #1 defense 6 times. The #1 offense won 5 times, and always scored at least 27 points, even in the 1 loss. Edit: That's regular season stats apparently. However the last 4 times Rodgers has faced the #1 defense he has lost. |
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Quoted: I don't know about overall, but in the Super Bowl the #1 defense is 7-1 against the #1 offense. Good ole Super Bowl 48. I probably won money on personal bets that game than any other individual sporting event in my life. I was one of the few non-Seahawks fans that enjoyed every second of that 43-8 beatdown. View Quote Quoted: Between 2006 and 2018 the #1 offense faced the #1 defense 6 times. The #1 offense won 5 times, and always scored at least 27 points, even in the 1 loss. Edit: That's regular season stats apparently. However the last 4 times Rodgers has faced the #1 defense he has lost. View Quote I wouldn't lean too hard on those historical trends. The game is changing. Rules have been adjusted in ways that favor offense, the era of the pocket passer seems to be coming to an end, and the analytics movement has teams being more aggressive with both passing plays and 4th down go decisions. Defense is still important, especially if it's one that's good at forcing turnovers to steal possessions, but offense is more valuable than ever. |
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How well will Urban Meyer gonna transition to NFL? I don't watch any college FB. He's older but is he an "offensive guru" or an old system guy?
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Quoted: How well will Urban Meyer gonna transition to NFL? I don't watch any college FB. He's older but is he an "offensive guru" or an old system guy? View Quote hard to say, he won two national championships with Tebow. edit: and he won another at Ohio state. he's gonna have what's arguably the next can't miss prospect at QB, too. |
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Quoted: Here's one for the cheese heads: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ero93T4XIAEnge9?format=png&name=4096x4096 View Quote |
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Interesting how the defenses look in the last 6 games. I think the Packers D really made an improvement over that time. Up until then it looked as if they regressed quite a bit from last year. The last 6 games they held opponents to 25, 16, 24, 16, 14, & 16 points.
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Congrats, Steelers fans: /Smith. But the will keep dumlin,butler and smith. |
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Quoted: Interesting how the defenses look in the last 6 games. I think the Packers D really made an improvement over that time. Up until then it looked as if they regressed quite a bit from last year. The last 6 games they held opponents to 25, 16, 24, 16, 14, & 16 points.
View Quote It can sometimes be misleading to just look at specific stats from the past month or so. For example: the Packers and the Cowboys both averaged about 32 PPG the last month of the season. |
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Quoted: It can sometimes be misleading to just look at specific stats from the past month or so. For example: the Packers and the Cowboys both averaged about 32 PPG the last month of the season. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Interesting how the defenses look in the last 6 games. I think the Packers D really made an improvement over that time. Up until then it looked as if they regressed quite a bit from last year. The last 6 games they held opponents to 25, 16, 24, 16, 14, & 16 points.
It can sometimes be misleading to just look at specific stats from the past month or so. For example: the Packers and the Cowboys both averaged about 32 PPG the last month of the season. It can be but I think the Cowboys offense looked a lot better the last bit of the season compared to the few weeks after Dak's injury, and then Dalton was injured. Ill take a defense that got hot the last 6 weeks of the season. From what I heard some of the D leaders went to the DC, and had a chat with him about playing more aggressive. Since then they look much better. That happened after the Vikings game where they ran for 200+ on us, and featured defensive schemes such as Preston Smith lining up in a corner position. |
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Quoted: It can be but I think the Cowboys offense looked a lot better the last bit of the season compared to the few weeks after Dak's injury, and then Dalton was injured. Ill take a defense that got hot the last 6 weeks of the season. From what I heard some of the D leaders went to the DC, and had a chat with him about playing more aggressive. Since then they look much better. That happened after the Vikings game where they ran for 200+ on us, and featured defensive schemes such as Preston Smith lining up in a corner position. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Interesting how the defenses look in the last 6 games. I think the Packers D really made an improvement over that time. Up until then it looked as if they regressed quite a bit from last year. The last 6 games they held opponents to 25, 16, 24, 16, 14, & 16 points.
It can sometimes be misleading to just look at specific stats from the past month or so. For example: the Packers and the Cowboys both averaged about 32 PPG the last month of the season. It can be but I think the Cowboys offense looked a lot better the last bit of the season compared to the few weeks after Dak's injury, and then Dalton was injured. Ill take a defense that got hot the last 6 weeks of the season. From what I heard some of the D leaders went to the DC, and had a chat with him about playing more aggressive. Since then they look much better. That happened after the Vikings game where they ran for 200+ on us, and featured defensive schemes such as Preston Smith lining up in a corner position. I didn't watch all the Packers' games so I don't know, but is it possible it didn't have as much to do with them "getting hot" as it did with them playing one average or better offense the last 6 games? Besides that one game the best offense they played during that time was the Lions who are ranked 20th. |
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Quoted: I didn't watch all the Packers' games so I don't know, but is it possible it didn't have as much to do with them "getting hot" as it did with them playing one average or better offense the last 6 games? Besides that one game the best offense they played during that time was the Lions who are ranked 20th. View Quote I don't think that's quite accurate. Week 16 against the Titans was a pretty lopsided win. Titans in the regular season were 4th in PPG, 3rd in total yards, 2nd in rushing. Vikings were 11th in PPG. First game against them was horrible on defense allowing Cook over 200 yards, and multiple TD's. The Bears put Trubisky in, and they played well outside of those 2 games. Eagles game is where Wentz was benched, and Hurts came in looking good. Lions are the Lions but Stafford has never been someone to blink on and act like its an easy win. They had several close games against good opponents this year. |
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Quoted: I don't think that's quite accurate. Week 16 against the Titans was a pretty lopsided win. Titans in the regular season were 4th in PPG, 3rd in total yards, 2nd in rushing. Vikings were 11th in PPG. First game against them was horrible on defense allowing Cook over 200 yards, and multiple TD's. The Bears put Trubisky in, and they played well outside of those 2 games. Eagles game is where Wentz was benched, and Hurts came in looking good. Lions are the Lions but Stafford has never been someone to blink on and act like its an easy win. They had several close games against good opponents this year. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I didn't watch all the Packers' games so I don't know, but is it possible it didn't have as much to do with them "getting hot" as it did with them playing one average or better offense the last 6 games? Besides that one game the best offense they played during that time was the Lions who are ranked 20th. I don't think that's quite accurate. Week 16 against the Titans was a pretty lopsided win. Titans in the regular season were 4th in PPG, 3rd in total yards, 2nd in rushing. Vikings were 11th in PPG. First game against them was horrible on defense allowing Cook over 200 yards, and multiple TD's. The Bears put Trubisky in, and they played well outside of those 2 games. Eagles game is where Wentz was benched, and Hurts came in looking good. Lions are the Lions but Stafford has never been someone to blink on and act like its an easy win. They had several close games against good opponents this year. I'm going by total offense. Outside of the Titans the highest ranked offense the Packers played in their final 6 games were the Lions at #20. The Bears are ranked #26 in total offense and #22 in scoring offense. You have an extremely generous definition of "played well." |
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Does any fan these days NOT hate their teams defense?
I watch the Bills games and I'm sickitated by the defense giving up 8 yards on every 3rd and 6 plus a lot of other things but according to the stats they're not bad at all. I figure if we score 5 touchdowns and hold them to around 300 yards rushing we have a decent chance to move past the Ravens. |
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Hypothetical question:
Would the Patriots have had a winning record if they signed Dalton instead of Newton? My guess is yes. |
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Quoted: Behold! The climate data on Derek Carr: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ert8RZbXMAEhKAE?format=png&name=360x360 View Quote Sensitive snowflake. |
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Long time Steeler TE coach is retiring.
Te ebron was the Steeler that tested positive for the China virus. |
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Quoted: Hypothetical question: Would the Patriots have had a winning record if they signed Dalton instead of Newton? My guess is yes. View Quote A winning record would mean they would have had to win 2 more games. I think it's very likely would have won that Broncos game considering the defense only gave up 18 points at home and Newton had a 16.1 QBR and a 51.6 passer rating. After that, would Dalton had been able to win one more game than Newton? Probably, IMO. |
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Quoted: I don't think that's quite accurate. Week 16 against the Titans was a pretty lopsided win. Titans in the regular season were 4th in PPG, 3rd in total yards, 2nd in rushing. Vikings were 11th in PPG. First game against them was horrible on defense allowing Cook over 200 yards, and multiple TD's. The Bears put Trubisky in, and they played well outside of those 2 games. Eagles game is where Wentz was benched, and Hurts came in looking good. Lions are the Lions but Stafford has never been someone to blink on and act like its an easy win. They had several close games against good opponents this year. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I didn't watch all the Packers' games so I don't know, but is it possible it didn't have as much to do with them "getting hot" as it did with them playing one average or better offense the last 6 games? Besides that one game the best offense they played during that time was the Lions who are ranked 20th. I don't think that's quite accurate. Week 16 against the Titans was a pretty lopsided win. Titans in the regular season were 4th in PPG, 3rd in total yards, 2nd in rushing. Vikings were 11th in PPG. First game against them was horrible on defense allowing Cook over 200 yards, and multiple TD's. The Bears put Trubisky in, and they played well outside of those 2 games. Eagles game is where Wentz was benched, and Hurts came in looking good. Lions are the Lions but Stafford has never been someone to blink on and act like its an easy win. They had several close games against good opponents this year. The Titans offense can be dangerous, but it can also be very predicable, and I stand by my previous position that I just don't believe they're coached very well. That was also a snow game in Lambeau for whatever that's worth. Looking at the other teams the Packers played late in the season, at least from a high level view, I don't think I'd find much comfort in the defense. It's pretty average. Average should be enough, though. The 2020 Rams are pure ass on offense, especially late season. From Week 11 on, the Rams offense has an EPA/play value lower than the 49ers, the WTF, the Jets, the Pats, the Giants, and the Eagles. The NFCCG will be harder, but we'll see which team emerges from the AARP game. |
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Quoted: Does any fan these days NOT hate their teams defense? I watch the Bills games and I'm sickitated by the defense giving up 8 yards on every 3rd and 6 plus a lot of other things but according to the stats they're not bad at all. I figure if we score 5 touchdowns and hold them to around 300 yards rushing we have a decent chance to move past the Ravens. View Quote The simple fact is the NFL figured out high scoring games improve viewership, and ratings tank when starting QB's get taken out by injury. Defenses aren't allowed to play like they could even 5 years ago let alone 15 or 20+ years ago. Theres also situations like Andrew Luck getting hit so badly they retire early. The game has just been shifted over to protecting valuable assets and comes down to money. I looked up the average points scored per team per league year, and 2020 is the highest PPG by average ever at 24.8. 2019 was 22.8. Going back to the 80's and 90's the average reached a low in 92 and 93 at 18.7 PPG. Taken from NYT to save a click on that site Attached File |
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Quoted: A winning record would mean they would have had to win 2 more games. I think it's very likely would have won that Broncos game considering the defense only gave up 18 points at home and Newton had a 16.1 QBR and a 51.6 passer rating. After that, would Dalton had been able to win one more game than Newton? Probably, IMO. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Hypothetical question: Would the Patriots have had a winning record if they signed Dalton instead of Newton? My guess is yes. A winning record would mean they would have had to win 2 more games. I think it's very likely would have won that Broncos game considering the defense only gave up 18 points at home and Newton had a 16.1 QBR and a 51.6 passer rating. After that, would Dalton had been able to win one more game than Newton? Probably, IMO. It's worth remembering that Brady didn't have a great year in 2019, he left NE for a reason, and that reason got worse in 2020. |
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